A friend and I went there in the middle of the afternoon, stood in the cold in front of one car then another. No one came out. We went inside, there were no customers, but no salesman talked to us until we asked for one. One car interesting me was a 2011, two years old, but still "new" --the salesman said they might drop five grand or so on the price to get it off the lot. He also mentioned a Nissan zero-percent program. When I said I'd put a ten grand down payment he called that "aggressive" (?). Left us twenty minutes to a half hour to talk to the sales manager, came back with the invoice for what they paid for this car, two years ago, and that was the price they were offering. And he said the zero percent deal "ended last week." Since we were five grand apart I tried to leave, but he insisted I give my offer, which he wrote on his sheet of paper, then put a line under it for me to sign--to lock me in, in case they met my price then I tried to drop my offer? What? Another half hour, comes back and says they still want exactly what they paid for this thing two years ago. And he also brings the paperwork on a car, the same year, pre-owned, with fewer features, for about the price I was offering. Maybe that was a hint that I was being unreasonable? Most dealers, instead of hinting, would make a counter-offer. Did they really think that a two year old car can be worth their invoice price? No dealer I've spoken to has ever even had a two year old unsold car on their lot--the odds of it not selling in the first year are astronomically small. I understand why this one's unsold, though. Great salesmen get you to buy something you didn't intend to buy and be glad of it. Good salesmen might let you leave without buying, but you'll keep them in mind and maybe even come back. These guys kept us around for three hours and did a few sales tricks (talk to the manager, sign that this is my actual offer), then they let a customer with a 10K down payment leave wondering if I upset them, if the sales manager wants the salesman to fail, just what kind of weird psycho game was being played. Very strange. I certainly would not want any ongoing relationship with this place--they don't behave rationally.
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