How to sound like I’m being respectful of Honda? First off I am a strong loyal Honda fan and will be for life. I have owned all types of Hondas and had the opportunity to buy a 2002 Honda civic EX special edition and a 2003 Honda civic VP (base model) for a very good price back in 2015, I only paid $2500 for both to be fair, both in great shape and low miles from an elderly couple who barely drove them, both having less than 80,000 miles on them when purchased. Seemed to good too be true. It was. I was used to driving my 7th generation accords before this purchase (2003-2007, k 24 engines ONLY, v6 were trash) and now I understand the D17 (1.7 liter) motors are absolutely garbage. They essentially took the previous b16y8 (super reliable) motors and gave it an extra .1 liter of power so to speak and somehow failed on all cylinders, literally. This motor is absolutely gutless and the automatic transmission paired too it is notorious for early failures and costly repairs. These cars are often mistaken for the old reliable of Honda civic fleets but I advise you seek out late 8th generation civics to save a buck (2009-2011, avoid 2006, 2007 & 2008 as they had block cracking issues) and if you are really low on cash the previous generation to these (1999, 2000) were better than these by a landslide. Don’t be fooled by the Honda name on the car, these are ones to seriously avoid, plus they are known worldwide as a bad generation of civics, the 2001s being the worst rated for reliability ever for any Honda model. I suggest you seek out the toyota corollas of these years but even they weren’t without their issues also. I hope this helps at least one person avoid a massive amount of issues and costs!

this car never needed brakes until 103k miles, unbelievable, she has 117k now, and running strong, i get over 330 miles to the tank around town

This car is a daily commute and a great gas saver. Excellent for outings and family events . Two thumbs way up honda motors I love you