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Vehicle information

Ext. color: Midnight Black Metallic
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 24-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 2.5L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
Stock #: 24-2182
VIN: 4T1BF1FK4HU316121

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Bianco Auto Sales review

Great experience

It was a great smooth experience. Ed the General Manager and his staff were wonderful. The process was seamless and we are so happy with the car!! Ed worked with us and we received a great price. I would recommend to everyone!

2017 Toyota Camry SE review

Bought my 2017 used in 2020 with 14,000 original miles.

Bought my 2017 used in 2020 with 14,000 original miles. Very happy with it. The shifter took some getting used to as it's not as smooth as other cars in its class. Otherwise it's been very dependable, good at plowing through drift left by snow xxxxxxat my driveway. Good under carriage clearance. Great heating and cooling system.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Black
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 31-41
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 1.5L L4 SOHC 16V
Stock #: 6008T
VIN: 2HGFC3B71GH356008

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Remote Start
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

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Payless Auto Wholesale review

THE BEST USED CAR DEALER

Payless auto wholesale is an excellent car dealership. I worked with Les Agboh who made sure I was happy before I left off his lot. I truly recommend payless auto wholesale. I give them five starts. Chantan Holmes

2016 Honda Civic EX-L review

Jean Paul was great to work with!

Jean Paul was great to work with! He sent lots of photos and a video to show us the car before driving to see it! He also had paperwork ready when we got there and waiting on us. It was a very smooth process and the car is wonderful!!!!

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Black
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 19-19
Fuel type: E85 Flex Fuel
Transmission: Automatic 4-Speed
Engine: 5.3L V8
Stock #: 127625
VIN: 3GNFK16337G127625

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Remote Start
Entertainment: CD Player, Satellite Radio, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Tow Hitch, Tow Hooks
Safety: Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat, Third Row Seating

Reviews

KBB Auto Sales review

Appreciate your time and service!

Appreciate your time and service! Bought a car few weeks back for very good price. Thank you Kbb

2007 Chevrolet Suburban 1500 LTZ review

I own a 2007 suburban with the 5.

I own a 2007 suburban with the 5.3 and flex fuel option. It currently sits at over 300,000 miles (all country roads by me) and it doesn't miss a beat i would not hesitate to drive it anywhere rite now over the last couple years all ive had to replace was the alternator (300,000 plus miles) and tires . I run nothing but E85 in it very comfortable ride when this one does finally say uncle i will buy another hands down

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Blue
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 20-29
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic, 6-Spd
Engine: ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable va
Stock #: G6182319
VIN: 2GNFLGEK1G6182319

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System, Power Liftgate, Remote Start
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

2016 Chevrolet Equinox LTZ review

Surpassed my expectations

Nicely designed inside and out. Much mote cargo space than I thought it would have. It passed the road trip test too.. I have no complaints about it.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Super Black
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 24-32
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 1.8L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
Stock #: 1822
VIN: 3N1BC1AP9AL461822

Features

Entertainment: CD Player
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Brake Assist

Reviews

B & B Auto review

Bought a few vehicles from B&B, can’t write anything

Bought a few vehicles from B&B, can’t write anything negative about my experience either time. The staff was very friendly and helpful. Would highly recommend to others. They will go above and beyond to help you. A few weeks after I purchased a car, a check engine light came on, (loose wire) they took care of it promptly on the spot. The light never came back on.

2010 Nissan Versa 1.8 S review

I purchased my 2010 versa sedan automatic used with

I purchased my 2010 versa sedan automatic used with 132,000 miles for $4,000 tax, title and tags. It now has 201,000 miles and going. Yes I have had strut, breaks and motor mount issues along the way totaling around $2,000 separately and some warning lights stay on at all times but this has been the most reliable car for the least money I have ever spent. Gas mileage around 25 mpg enough comfort for an easy 250 mile trip the cruise control no longer works nor the horn but everything else still in working order. Some clear coat issues on the paint but maybe not for showing it’s definitely for going most importantly no transmission issues which have been reported less invasive in this model year.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Alabaster Silver Metallic
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 21-34
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 3.5L V6 278hp 252ft. lbs.
Stock #: 28275
VIN: 1HGCR3F89EA034362

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, HomeLink, Satellite Radio, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, Lane Departure Warning, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Brick City Motors review

In love with my knew car

I came here to buy my first car and was dealing with Gary he was honest from the beginning he really help me with my purchase and I didn't have insurance and the young lady who works there help me get cheap insurance I would definitely recommend this dealership.

2014 Honda Accord EX-L review

This is hands down the best car I have ever owned!

This is hands down the best car I have ever owned!! I've had it 11 years and my 2014 Honda Accord has never needed a repair. I have only ever had to do regular maintenance on it (battery, brake pads, tires, etc). What an incredible value at $22K!!! One feature that has been buggy is the infotainment/Bluetooth but I can live with it.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Gray
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 22-30
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: 5-Speed A/T
Engine: 185.0HP 2.4L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
VIN: 2HKRM4H32CH633365

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2012 Honda CR-V LX review

It now has a towing package 1,500 lbs.

It's longer than most SUVs. I've been able to haul both drywall and plywood still closing the rear door. It's been great to travel with, the back seats fold all the way down.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Gray
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 17-22
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: VQ 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engi
Stock #: 1568
VIN: JNKCV51F26M601568

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry
Entertainment: CD Player
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

B & B Auto review

Great experience with B&B Auto.

Great experience with B&B Auto. The owners were very communicative throughout the process. Once at the dealership and checking out other cars they gave me all the time I needed, never felt pressured and were very transparent about the car itself and what to expect (I bought a '99 Mercedes so the mechanic talked me through some of the issues that might arise). Great experience overall.

2006 INFINITI G35x Base review

Nice blend of performance and luxury.

Love this car. Has a good powerful engine. All wheel drive for the snow. Nice interior features. Love the keyless entry and ignition. Only problem was the engine likes to leak oil. Still very reliable.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Glacier Silver Metallic
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
Stock #: 598120Y
VIN: WBA3B5C50DF598120

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

TSF Auto Sales review

Recently bought 2020 X5 M50i from TSF auto sales, drove

Recently bought 2020 X5 M50i from TSF auto sales, drove all the way down from MA to NY. Excellent customer service, stayed after hours to complete sale with me and avoid me driving all the way home and back. Arranged shipping back of my old car as a courtesy service. The car I bought from them is in great condition, well kept and all running smoothly, recommend doing business with these guys and I will definitely be back in the future. Thanks Igor and Viktor!

2013 BMW 328 xDrive review

5th 3

Have had 5 3 series`, and I wont drive anything else, starting with a `78 323. Love the whole layout, including the battery...surprising power for a 4 cylinder. My last was an inline 6, and this is far quicker. I`m 6 ft tall, and the back seat is , well, a back seat. You have as much legroom as the front seaters allow, but even with the front seats pulled a few inches forward, there is still ample room in front (and back). Only drawback? The shift into second can be a little abrupt, that`s about it. Thx.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Silver
Int. color: Beige
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 16-21
Fuel type: E85 Flex Fuel
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Engine: 4L V-6 engine with 210HP
Stock #: B43009
VIN: 1FMZU73EX2ZB43009

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry
Entertainment: CD Player
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Tow Hitch

Reviews

101 Motors LLC review

Excellent Service and Quality Assistance

Excellent Customer Service; all representatives were professional and sincerely helpful in this process. Our family was greatly assisted by the sales representative, David, who ensured he could meet the needs of our family! He and his team allowed us to move forward with a vehicle in our budget.

2002 Ford Explorer XLT review

I bought one new in 2003, 211k miles and still going.

I bought one new in 2003, 211k miles and still going. In 22 years I have had the following maintenance: 1-Alternator, 2- radiators, 2- water pumps, upper ball joint assembly on front passenger side, valve cover gaskets, 1-set of spark plugs, 2- Power module fuses, replaced head liner and the normal tires and Breakpads. Still has the Ford electrical wiring quirks; door ajar faut sensor lights which in the interior dome light will not turn off. All things considered for the amount of space and towing its a good value.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Blue
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 23-36
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: 9-Speed Automatic
Engine: 2.4L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
Stock #: 536124-24
VIN: 1C3CCCCB7FN536124

Features

Convenience: Keyless Start, Remote Start
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Auto Spot LLC review

3rd car from Abdullah and auto spot.

3rd car from Abdullah and auto spot.. great service as always!! I highly recommend Abdullah always

2015 Chrysler 200 C review

second gen 200...three years, not long enough!

PhilC: 2015 Chrysler 200 Lmt. (010924: 88657m) I love the car, hands down, a "true legend"...extremely reliable, rides nice and smooth, great wheelbase for NE winter season, have not had to put much expense-wise in to replacement parts since July 2017 purchse @ 48500m. Emissions Recall taken care of no cost at a DCJ dealership...top two fav. features are: the rounded dash near int. windshield and the OEM rims...genuine MOPAR, all the way! i wish for the resons given that they could have extended production by another year or two...three years was not long enough...Thank You so much 'FiatChrysler'...as well, Jeff Hammoud and Christian Farcas...an awesome car if there ever was...again, a "true legend"! Thank you to all involved...many more miles ahead with my 200 Lmt....

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 23-36
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
Engine: Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 variable valve control, regular unl
Stock #: LT129233
VIN: 1C3CCCBB0GN129233

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry, Keyless Start
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, Satellite Radio, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Luxury Motor Cars review

The salesman was excellent.

The salesman was excellent. He was very professional and provided answers for the questions that I asked. Other staff were also helpful.

2016 Chrysler 200 S review

I own a 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD with "Tech Package"

I own a 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD with "Tech Package" (forward collision warning saved me from hitting back end of pickup Truck). Has Panoramic Sunroof. I bought car for my Wife but I enjoy driving Car to, has lot of Power from 3.6 liter V-6 engine, All Wheel Drive is awesome. reliable is great.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Silver
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 26-31
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic, 6-Spd
Engine: ECOTEC 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled turbo,
Stock #: LB318170
VIN: KL7CJKSBXLB318170

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Heated Steering Wheel, Keyless Entry, Navigation System, Remote Start
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, CD Player, DVD Player, HomeLink, Premium Sound System, Satellite Radio, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof, Tow Hitch, Tow Hooks
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Memory Seat, Third Row Seating

Reviews

2020 Chevrolet Trax LS review

This is my first crossover.

This is my first crossover. I've been a truck and SUV person for about 20 years. When my truck was stolen and totaled, I bought this car used with 84k miles on it. The first week I had it the water pump went out, I kid you not. Not good so far, huh? The good thing is the car told me " car overheating, idle engine." My mechanic says newer vehicles are made to warn you before overheating causes damage to the engine. Thank God. I like the car, I'm actually starting to love the car. Trunk space is minimal, seats arent the most comfortable, I miss having a center storage space, and a passenger armrest would have been nice. The radio is kind of small to be tinkering with while driving, and I wish Android auto was wireless with built-in wifi (newer models have this) but the steering wheel controls help me overlook this minor inconvenience. This car is the only car I looked at with all the options I wanted for this year and price: remote start, extra CLEAR backup camera, push start, power driver seat AND park assist which alot of cars are phasing out these days in favor of things manufacturers believe consumers find more desirable. The blind spot indicators and cross traffic warning is nice as well and the ac blows freezing cold. You really get lots of bang for your buck. Oh and I was surprised by how well it handles bumps in the road, my last vehicle made me seasick going over those big speed bumps, not this car, it's extra smooth. I can't buy large hauls at rummage sales or thrift stores anymore because there's not enough space to haul them home, but there's plenty of room for me and the grandkids. I really wasn't financially prepared to buy a car right now and couldn't afford to buy brand new. But TBH, I find this model year of this car prettier than the new ones and overall am really pleased with my purchase. I'm getting older and this will probably be the last car I'll ever own or drive and I'm glad it was this one. Thank you Chevrolet.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Alabaster Silver Metallic
Int. color: Gray
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 22-30
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic 5-Speed
Engine: 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded,
Stock #: CC012171STK
VIN: JHLRM4H57CC012171

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control

Reviews

Quality Autos LLC review

Great guys .

Great guys . Two brothers run the place . Drive the , left a deposit and picked the car up the next day .

2012 Honda CR-V EX review

Great reliability

We picked up this vehicle as a kids car for my daughter to use while student teaching ... it's perfect... reliable, safe and low cost. This will run forever with consistent care.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal Black Pearl
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 17-24
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC VCM variable valve control, regular unleaded, en
Stock #: 171
VIN: 5FNYF4H94CB067637

Features

Convenience: Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Navigation System, Power Liftgate
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, HomeLink, Premium Sound System, Rear Seat Entertainment
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Moonroof, Tow Hitch
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat, Third Row Seating

Reviews

VK Auto Group review

Best service hands down.

Best service hands down. Got my moms approved, finally hitting the road with the car I wanted. They cool people too. Salute!

2012 Honda Pilot Touring review

Honda - Pilot - CRV - Odyssey

Vehicle covers our needs for towing the family fishing boat. Great for winter driving in our region. This model year cargo space is better than many of the other SUV's available.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Black
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 24-34
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: 6-Speed Automatic
Engine: 2.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC
Stock #: 143393-93
VIN: 5XXGU4L39HG143393

Features

Convenience: Heated Steering Wheel, Keyless Start, Power Liftgate
Entertainment: Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, CD Player, Satellite Radio, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Auto Spot LLC review

Abdullah Best service ever.

Abdullah Best service ever. Abdullah help is very much appreciated. Just bought my second car. Love both of them.

2017 Kia Optima EX review

Best car I ever had

This car fits perfect for me and my little family I love it so much Brittany helped me find exactly what I need and I got the price range too

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Silver
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 17-25
Fuel type: E85 Flex Fuel
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 3L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, engine with 228HP
Stock #: 823256539
VIN: WDDGF81X49R066539

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, Premium Sound System
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Auto Trader Wholesale review

Just bought a 2019 Toyota Tundra off Robert!

Just bought a 2019 Toyota Tundra off Robert! He and his whole crew were amazing. From the minute I walked in to the moment I drove off! I would recommend them to everyone I know! Thanks Guys!

2009 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C 300 4MATIC Sport review

A very good car at a really good price

I went on truecars.com where I got my car from salesman Mike in Arlington, VA. He went above and beyond in his service and helping me get this car and I am very satisfied and really like the car. It was in excellent condition and I would definitely recommend it.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Caspian Blue Metallic
Int. color: Soft Beige
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 20-29
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: 6-Speed Automatic
Engine: 2.5L I5 20V MPFI DOHC Turbo
Stock #: 220853-53
VIN: YV1612SK2F1220853

Features

Convenience: Navigation System
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, Premium Sound System, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Auto Spot LLC review

Abdullah was friendly, patient and informative about all

Abdullah was friendly, patient and informative about all the cars on the lot. If you need a good use car come to Auto Spot and ask to see Abdullah.

2015 Volvo V60 T5 Premier review

Reliable and affordable

My first Volvo coming from BMW’s. It’s very affordable to fix and initial cost. It’s comfortable and heated front and rear seats and steering wheel was a real selling point. Automatic transmission shifts ok also has sport mode or manual shifting options. Gas mileage is decent. Has start stop option you can turn on or off. Back up cam is great. Visibility all around is great for being a larger vehicle. No blind spots. Love it so far!

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Silver Ice Metallic
Int. color: Jet Black/Jet Black
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 30-38
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
Stock #: 760035
VIN: KL8CB6SAXHC760035

Features

Convenience: Navigation System
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control

Reviews

Envy Motors review

Recently made a purchase, first car for my daughter here

Recently made a purchase, first car for my daughter here at envy motors and I must say it was in very good condition for a used car.Everything checks out.Thank you very much.

2017 Chevrolet Spark LS review

A modest car that offers good value

This is a fuel efficient and modest car. It achieves 98hp has a 9 gallon tank and an automatic transmission. The LS has crank windows and old fashioned key-lock doors. You can haul a reasonable load in the back seat and hatch or even three other people, though it might be somewhat cramped. It appears to be designed for urban commuters, but I've driven it some decent distances and in all seasons now and it seems to up the challenge of all weather and (paved) terrains. The onboard technology (radio, backup camera, and internet connectivity--with Apple Play and Android Auto) is surprisingly good. Its small size makes it fit easily into small spaces. It was discontinued in 2022, so there should be parts for awhile and prices are coming down. If you need a second car, give this one some consideration.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Taffeta White
Int. color: Beige
Drivetrain: Front-wheel Drive
MPG: 23-34
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded,
Stock #: CA155896STK
VIN: 1HGCP2F79CA155896

Features

Convenience: Keyless Entry
Entertainment: CD Player, USB Port
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Brake Assist, Stability Control

Reviews

2012 Honda Accord EX review

I agree with most of the ratings except I don't know how

I agree with most of the ratings except I don't know how it gets a 4.4 for comfort. The driver's seat is terrible. No matter how I tried to adjust it I end up with a sore back.

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