Used Chevrolet cars for sale near Valmeyer, IL
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- Ext. color
- Riptide Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Medium Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- P17310
- VIN
- 3GNKBCR48RS180464
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Weber Chevrolet Creve CoeurReviews
Weber Chevrolet Creve Coeur review
We have bought all but two cars during out adult lives at Weber, and always like the friendliness of the entire staff, and the knowledge of the salesperson. Ben was awesome during the car buying process.
2024 Chevrolet Blazer review
We are enjoying our 2024 Blazer RS so far. It is very comfortable and quiet. The driving dynamics are great, very responsive and smooth over rough roads. This is the first Chevrolet I've owned in a couple decades, mostly due to inferior interior fit and finish. But in this car it is done well, although hard plastics on the top of the doors do not make a nice resting spot for my elbow. Also it takes a little bit to get use to judging the front end clearance when parking. Other then that, I have found the build quality to be right there with most foreign competitors in this segment. That said, you have to pay extra for things like adaptive cruise and some other features that are standard on the competitions upper trim levels. Only other issue is the lack sight lines out the back, the pillars are very thick and the window small. Definitely need the blind spot monitoring. Overall this is a nice SUV to drive, comfortable with sporty handling and good looks.
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- Ext. color
- Mosaic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- 260867M
- VIN
- 1GNERGKS0TJ170013
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Serra Honda O'FallonReviews
Serra Honda O'Fallon review
I am 67 years old and I have purchased many cars in the past. Moreover, I think Honda Civic is one of best cars to own. In 2008 I purchased a new Honda Civic LX Now in 2022 it still runs like a new one with 258804 miles on it. Remember, take care of your new car and your car will take care of many miles of care free happy miles. Change your oil and air filter often. Good dealership and maintenance department. Good luck with your new HONDA.
2026 Chevrolet Traverse review
Bought a 2026 Chevy Traverse RS to replace a Jeep grand Cherokee that was only a year old that had NOTHING but problems. It was in the shop more than our driveway. We are so happy to be in a beautiful, new, reliable Chevy!!
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- Ext. color
- Cobalt Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 4 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- 346
- VIN
- H530002563
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REVHEADSReviews
REVHEADS review
Professional and showroom stocked of the most unique styles on wheels. 5/5 experience at Revheads. 🛞
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- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- BURGANDY
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L
- Stock #
- 762-TUL
- VIN
- 2GCEC19K3L1245634
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- Ext. color
- Green and White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Transmission
- 4 Speed Automatic Overdrive
- Engine
- 5.0L
- Stock #
- 3135-DFW
- VIN
- 2GCDC14H5B1171400
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Blue
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L
- Stock #
- 1414-LVS
- VIN
- 1GCDK14K5LZ261959
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.0L
- Stock #
- 9931-STL
- VIN
- 1GCDC14HXFS160043
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duramax 6.6L V-8 diesel direct injection, intercooled turbo, die
- Stock #
- R88376
- VIN
- 1GC4KSEY3SF114774
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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AutoCenters NissanReviews
AutoCenters Nissan review
Shawn did a great job working with us to get us the terms we wanted.
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 1380-LVS
- VIN
- 194670S411388
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Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
Very professional and very prompt in responding to questions. If you're looking for a classic car in top condition they are one of the top dealers in the country. They are expensive but if you want a quality used vehicle the prices are fair.
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- Ext. color
- White/Orange
- Int. color
- 2 Tone Black and White
- Transmission
- TH350 3-Spd
- Stock #
- 1805-MWK
- VIN
- VB56J0
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Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
I appreciate the variety and quality of the vehicle show case on your web site
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- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 6L V-8 regular unleaded, engine with 300HP
- Stock #
- 166728
- VIN
- 3GNGK26U4YG166728
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Drive Force Auto PlazaReviews
2000 Chevrolet Suburban review
Best old truck for the buck. I bought my 2000 suburban in 2020 with 337,000 miles on it and I've only replaced a fuel and water pump along with an alternator and a few window regulators. Not bad at all for a 22 year old truck ! It truly is like a Rock !
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Red
- Transmission
- TH350 3 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- 3181-DFW
- VIN
- VC57F199339
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Gateway Classic CarsReviews
1957 Chevrolet Bel Air review
Now Dropping Price to $35000 OBO Get it while is lasts classics like this do not come by everyday. So be sure to buy this one before it is gone !
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6L V-8 premium unleaded, engine with 400HP
- Stock #
- 132626
- VIN
- 1G1YY34U255132626
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Drive Force Auto PlazaReviews
Drive Force Auto Plaza review
I inquired if this vehicle had the original engine and transmission, theey replied that they thought it did.
2005 Chevrolet Corvette review
I've more than 150 cars over the years & will say the 05 Corvette is a fantastic vehicle. I have the convertible model and throughly enjoy it.
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- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black, Cloth Seat Trim
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 267456
- VIN
- 3GN7DLRP4SS153424
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sapaugh GM CountryReviews
Sapaugh GM Country review
This is the 3rd vehicle I have purchased and currently leasing a new vehicle from Sapaugh. Rich Konold is the best sales consultant. He knows the vehicles and can help you match your wants/needs to the best vehicle for you, and get you the lowest price.
2025 Chevrolet Equinox EV review
A great reasonable choice for an EV. The car is easy to drive, gets great charging miles and it comfortable for both the driver and passengers. I am so glad I chose this car to replace my previous EV.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Red Accents
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 6.2L V-8 gasoline direct injection, VVT variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 1451-KCM
- VIN
- 1G1FK1R64J0119195
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
Overall everything went well. The requesting of the original owner for the vehicle keys was never done as I was never notified of a reply.
2018 Chevrolet Camaro review
I have a 2018 SS a d I love it. With 455 hp and 455 lb ft through a 6 speed manual and quad exhaust, 8" screen, deluxe instruments, full LED/ HID lighting, spoiler, splitter, diffuser, K&N filter, tinted windows, and a Pioneer TS-WX1210A powered sub it rocks inside and out. Great car.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Red
- Transmission
- 2 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- 3183-DFW
- VIN
- 194675
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Gateway Classic CarsReviews
1965 Chevrolet Corvette review
The 1965 corvette is a must have for any car collecter, it features awesome styling and really good handling. prices are around $68,000 for exellent condition
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- Ext. color
- Seafrost Green
- Int. color
- Gray-Green
- Transmission
- 3 Speed Automatic TH400
- Stock #
- 304
- VIN
- 164478F148165
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REVHEADSReviews
REVHEADS review
Revheads is the BEST in the business for finding, promoting, and selling classic cars. It’s a family owned and operated business, touches of this are displayed throughout the dealership. Damon will take care of you like family, he is passionate about his cars and clients.
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- Ext. color
- GOLD
- Int. color
- Tan
- Transmission
- 2 speed Automatic
- Stock #
- 3071-DFW
- VIN
- 166375L128862
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Gateway Classic Cars -





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- Ext. color
- Mist Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Blue
- Transmission
- 4-Spd Manaul
- Stock #
- 2416-SCT
- VIN
- 516637076043
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Gateway Classic Cars -





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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black With Artemis Accents, Evotex Seat Trim
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 2655261
- VIN
- KL77LKEP3SC082876
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Sapaugh GM CountryReviews
Sapaugh GM Country review
Great customer service. Friendly, Fast and Informative. Highly recommend Sapaugh for all vehicle needs. Purchasing and service.
2025 Chevrolet Trax review
Bought to replace a Cruze that was a real road warrior . 2025 Trax 3 cyl does 70 mph plus on trips with 3 adults in comfort . LS model had no rear hatch cover . Bought one off FB Marketplace for $10. Dealer wanted $235. Used the rubber floor mats from the old Cruze and snapped right into place on the Trax for the winter weather . Doing more frequent oil changes because of wet belt setup . Originally wanted a Buick Envista but felt the $21200 Trax was basically the same car for thousands less .
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Yellow
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 657-TUL
- VIN
- 164478S119316
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Gateway Classic Cars -





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- Ext. color
- Teal
- Int. color
- Teal
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 1216-KCM
- VIN
- 164358L107825
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Gateway Classic Cars -





Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cream
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 4 speed manual
- Stock #
- 1253-SAN
- VIN
- 21847B167717
Features
- Safety
- Lane Departure Warning
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Gateway Classic Cars -





Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 686-TUL
- VIN
- 164375C106671
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Gateway Classic Cars -





Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RED
- Int. color
- Black
- Stock #
- 3098-HOU
- VIN
- CCE142F352643
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black, Cloth Seat Trim
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 2434662
- VIN
- 2GC4YNE7XR1204609
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sapaugh GM CountryReviews
Sapaugh GM Country review
I felt they were honest 1st of all. Can't say that about very many dealerships. They gave the best trade-in value on my 2015 Tahoe (by far). I searched Missouri and Illinois for about 8 weeks and Sapaugh was the best experience Hands-Down. My ONLY fault with my whole experience was getting my paper work finished. It was a cash deal with a trade-in. NO financing needed. But it was a holiday weekend (01/02/2026) only one guy doing the paperwork processing instead of two. NOT a giant deal.
2024 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 review
Truck looks and runs like a dream. Of course, I only have 2,000 miles on it. If this truck gives me 150000 miles without anything major then it’s a win, win. I have a good feeling about it. Time will tell.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RED
- Int. color
- RED
- Transmission
- 3-spd Automatic
- Stock #
- 1777-MWK
- VIN
- 21847B
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
1962 Chevrolet Impala review
This is a real nice car and a blast to drive. The car has many awards and has never been beat by another impala.The car scored 997 @ the nationals, everything works like it should all windows roll up and down. The car always starts right up and the 4 speed trans shifts perfectly.This car is my other women and has had a great life. I have owned her for 27 years and bought the car from the original owner Never in any accidents and has always been garaged.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V-8 regular unleaded, engine with 305HP
- Stock #
- 2034-PHY
- VIN
- 2G1FP32GXW2130904
Features
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
1998 Chevrolet Camaro review
I bought my 98 Camaro brand new and I still have it. It’s in mint condition even the cigarette lighter still works. I’m a young 68 lady and After owning the big guys like El Dorado and a Tornado, I wanted a sports car. Camaro met all my needs. It is fast and fun. I love the hatchback. It came in handy so many times. Love the T tops I got all the upgrades. it’s in mint condition. With 110.000 miles. I had another car so that’s why the mileage isn’t as high as it would be for its age I get so many compliments and everyone knows me by my car. I don’t know if that’s good or bad! Just bought 4 new tires. I love this car. It has never let me down. Other than basic maintenance I had a new air-conditioning system installed two years ago , I’ll never sell it.. thanks Chevy for making such a fast fun and affordable sports car.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Tan
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 2289-SCT
- VIN
- 124377L138218
Features
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
You guys at the dealer ship are awesome, the transport, not so good,but i found one,Thank yall so much
1967 Chevrolet Camaro review
My first car, and I loved it. 8 cylinder, 350 engine, glass pack mufflers, 4-barrel carborator. Lots of power, lots of fun, it was painted stock "metallic blue" and had as long a hood as a Corvette at the time. Wide white wall tires were also popular at the time. Bucket seats were good for comfort. Installed an 8-track tape player. No cassettes in cars back then! Fast and good handling!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Teal
- Int. color
- Black
- Stock #
- 2098-PHY
- VIN
- 115376N155262
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
Great timed replies and working to get my price and dtermine location of unit.amen
1966 Chevrolet Nova review
Bought the car from a wreck yard and restored it to a 12 second strip performer. It was a real looker with white swivel seats, Electron Blue ext with hood ghost flames. My next door neighbor wouldn't let me sell it away to others. He insisted on buying it instead. He knew about the total redo and its good looks and value.
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$83,811
Est. $1,536/mo Jim Butler Centralia
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 282675AA
- VIN
- 1GNS6GKL0TR201962
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Jim Butler CentraliaReviews
Jim Butler Centralia review
Our salesmen Robert was a pleasure to work with as was the finance department we would definitely recommend Jim Butler's dealership. We love our new ram Laramie
2026 Chevrolet Suburban review
I recently purchased the 2026 Chevrolet Suburban Premier, and I couldn’t be happier with the experience. The vehicle offers a perfect mix of power, luxury, and practicality. The updated design feels both bold and refined, and the interior comfort is next-level — from the premium leather seats to the incredibly quiet cabin. On the road, the ride is smooth and confident. The V8 engine delivers plenty of power for highway driving and towing, while the suspension makes it easy to handle despite its size. The new tech features are also impressive — the large infotainment display, wireless connectivity, and advanced safety systems really elevate the driving experience. Overall, the 2026 Suburban Premier feels like a true full-size luxury SUV that’s built for families, road trips, and anyone who appreciates comfort and performance. Highly recommend it to anyone looking for reliability, space, and a touch of elegance in a powerful SUV.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70108918
- VIN
- 1G1FB1RS3R0122646
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
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CarMax MobileReviews
2024 Chevrolet Camaro review
On My 2024 Camaro which is a fantastic car, I just pushed a button to bring the top down or up I don't have to move any tabs. I don't have a clue on what that fellow was speaking about???