Used compact SUVs for sale near North Perry, OH
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cloudburst Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- 060842F01
- VIN
- 2T2GGCEZ6SC060842
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Honda of Cleveland HeightsReviews
2025 Lexus NX 350 review
I got the option to test drive a hybrid NX. And after driving it I can honestly say I'm much happier driving my NX350 gas version (I have a 2025 NX 350 Luxury). First I notice the hybrid felt under power, and then I realize that my gas version has a stronger engine with the turbo. Second the sound that the hybrid makes like a droning noise, did not like that. The driving experience on my gas feels great compare to the hybrid version. Now I did not do a road test with the plug in, but from everything I have heard that is the one to get. At this moment don't have a house, so gas is the best option for me. But after we buy our house then i feel like the plug in is the way to go, especially with the bigger horse power. And yes I understand the save in gas of a hybrid but I'm spending big money on NX and I want to enjoy the drive. If i want to save money then I will go for Toyota and save a lot more on gas. (the 350h is for people who want to save money on their gas bill and 200hp is enough as they want luxury from A to B and don't need it to be fun). So that for me is not a factor, for me is the drive and the comfortable of a luxury product. And yes I get it Lexus luxury ain't what it used to be many years ago, but in 2024 it's better then a Toyota luxury. Example RAV 4 limited vs NX luxury, I prefer to spend more money on the NX for the luxury level in todays market of 2024. So Luxury with a good driving experience are it for me...and of course the reliability of Toyota/Lexus makes it all the better then any other brand for me.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wind Chill Pearl
- Int. color
- Black w/Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- K32404A
- VIN
- 7MMVABDM4RN206000
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Classic HyundaiReviews
Classic Hyundai review
I worked with Michael Lentine today to buy out my lease on my 2022 Ionic 5. He was professional, courteous & respectful. I've used this dealership for all the required maintenance and their service department is excellent.
2024 Mazda CX-50 review
Other than an error code that was fixed about a month after purchase. The CX-50 has been a pleasure to drive. Very responsive and once you get used to the safety feature built into the cruise control that is fine as well. It will slow down automatically when approaching a slower moving vehicle. If you change to passing lane it will then speed up until set speed or you approach another vehicle. Gas mileage is 24 city and it seems like 28 to 30 highway. Not actually calculated that but miles oer tank increases. Love the car but for me back seats seem to sit too straight. Not sure if they can recline or not.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Shooting Star (Matte Gray)
- Int. color
- Dark Green
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Direct-Drive Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- K1622
- VIN
- KM8KRDDF4RU245583
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Classic HyundaiReviews
Classic Hyundai review
My visit to test drive a new Hyundai was relaxed yet very informative. At no point did I feel rushed or pressured. The sales agent was courteous, thoughtful, and very knowledgeable about the vehicle, and was able to address all my questions and concerns. It was a very satisfactory and useful visit.
2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 review
I’ve really enjoyed my 2024 Ioniq 5 Limited. The combination of comfort, performance, technology, and distinctive styling makes it a great EV for everyday driving. The Limited trim has a lot of features, and the interior feels spacious and upscale. The AWD gives it plenty of power, while the ride is quiet and smooth. Home charging is convenient and significantly cheaper than gasoline, especially compared with my previous vehicle. I also like the 800V fast-charging capability for longer trips. Overall, the Ioniq 5 feels like a well-designed EV rather than simply a traditional car converted to electric. Pros: Comfortable, quick, spacious, excellent technology, great driving experience, low charging cost. Cons: Built-in navigation could be better, and the charging network experience still isn't as seamless as Tesla's. Overall: Highly recommended.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Sapphire Blue Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 15067
- VIN
- 5LMCJ1D9XHUL07455
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2017 Lincoln MKC review
2017 MKC engine needs replacing only 44000 miles out of warranty. Why wasn’t there a recall? $10445 to replace motor. Can ford be held responsible help?
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Velvet Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 15729
- VIN
- 2GNFLEEK4F6153321
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2015 Chevrolet Equinox review
I bought my Equinox new off the lot in 2015 to be my winter driving car. I’ve had it for 10 years, and have driven it 60 miles round-trip in some of the worst winter weather in the lower 48 states. The Equinox held the road well on ice, in slush, and in deep snow on days that I was on the road before the snow plows. It has always been reliable and has never left me stranded. I’ve had no major issues in over 107,000 miles. I appreciate the cargo space which is much better than the newer models. I regularly recommend Equinoxes to my friends and family.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 14211
- VIN
- JF2SJAHCXEH497630
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
DAMS AUTO LLC review
I was fortunate to have Trent help me purchase my vehicle. Experienced Sale Associate with lots of experience and even had a mutual friend that made me Quickly trust him. He was straight up and down with me. Took me on a ride around the block before paying and rolling out of a dealership on St. Clair in Cleveland, Ohio in a xxxx of a deal and a record time obtaining a vehicle from a dealership. *𝐃𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 1) 🙄 Pricey lots with false claims, 🫣 Dodge the sales people who are lames, 😖 Duck the timely process and miss the games, 😎 Hit Cleveland on St Clair to get ur deal at DAM’s 2) Wham Bam Thank you DAM’s
2014 Subaru Forester review
I was between a rock and a hard place after my Honda passed away-it drove itself to its demise due to the handbrake not on tight enough. So I had nothing to trade, no leverage. I know Subarus owned many Outbacks and they go forever. The problem is I'm 5' tall and this car is too big for me after the Honda and a Miata I have. I had 2 big dogs and felt the car would be great for a dog owner. Which it is. One dog rode on the back seat (covered) the other had the back to herself. Great for a dog owner. If you need a crate there's plenty of room. This would be a great vehicle for a children or pet family. I only have one 10 yr old dog left and this uses too much gas for me to consider a practical vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Copperhead Pearlcoat
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 15536
- VIN
- 1C4NJRFB4CD567826
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
DAMS AUTO LLC review
I purchased 10 cars over the last six years. I will continuously buy cars from this dealership when you’re buying cars at wholesale pricing you should understand what you’re getting into. They have great low miles and great pricing and great deals on all the vehicles people are gonna be Karens no matter what and leave bad reviews over a $2900 car $5000 car, I have great experiences with them every time highly recommend 💪😎🙏
2012 Jeep Patriot review
I've had my Patriot for about 3 yrs now. I purchased with 82K on it and am up to 98K. The CVT took a bit to get used to as far as being not very quick when accelerating. I'm used to it now and it keeps me from having a lead foot...lol. Otherwise I've had no major problems and it serves it's purpose and is good in the snow.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 regular gasoline, engine with 185HP
- Stock #
- 15614
- VIN
- 2CNDL23F786078634
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2008 Chevrolet Equinox review
Father in Law bought this car towards end of 2008 with 18,000 miles on it, a 'GM program car' It was his 2nd vehicle so it didn't get used a bunch, he wanted the AWD option for winter driving. Fast forward to end of 2018 and we took possession of it with 79000 miles on it after he stopped driving. We have maintained it with regular oil changes, trans fluid changes, and have had some small repairs done (wheel bearings, power window motor replacement, that kind of stuff). It now has 215000 miles and engine and transmission still going strong. It's my husband's daily driver-70 miles a day- plus taking it on trips out of town. Metallic gray paint still looks great. Averages 24mpg. We are actually looking for another one with the 3.4 v6 with 100,000 miles or less, we've been so impressed with it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Atlantis Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- K32454A
- VIN
- 5NMJACDE8TH633942
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Classic HyundaiReviews
Classic Hyundai review
Leased a new 2025 SantaFe today. John Rancourt was my salesperson. He was extremely helpful and courteous. He answered all my questions and took time to show me a number of vehicles. I would recommend to anyone looking for a Hyundai to contact John.
2026 Hyundai TUCSON review
When my RAV4 was destroyed in an accident, I found the Tucson to be a much better value than the new RAV4. All the latest technology at a reasonable price. Better warranty, and no subscription fees for connected services. Good, reliable, basic transportation.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- True Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 15313
- VIN
- 1C4NJDBB1ED816210
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2014 Jeep Compass review
I never thought I'd own a Jeep in my lifetime, then five years ago I bought a used 2014 Jeep Patriot and was amazed by its fuel economy and reliability for a mid-size SUV. Then three months ago my sister needed a car, and I passed the Patriot along to her, so I began doing research to buy another used car for myself and found the 2014 Jeep Compass. Now I'm the proud owner of not one but two Jeeps! I fell in love with it because of its looks as it is "less boxy" than the Patriot and the interior is basically a replica of a car I'm already used to driving. Find it a little bit roomier than the Patriot, love the top of the gate spoiler and the headlights design as well as the focused (foglights?). I can carry a ton of stuff in the back specially since I added the retractable cargo cover for privacy and safety. I definitely recommend this crossover SUV, it delivers a ton for its value. Definitely money well invested.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 15591
- VIN
- 1C4NJRFB7FD245752
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2015 Jeep Patriot review
Off the lot, amazing! I call it Dino.. because it’s eco green and it has an antenna! I have purchased a few vehicles off the lot. Dino is cool. Well I did like my Chevy S10- bench seat, was the best I ever bought off the lot! Jeep Patriot 2015 an amazing vehicle as well!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- WHITE
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 15604
- VIN
- 2GKFLTEK8G6303661
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- DVD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2016 GMC Terrain review
I purchased my 2016 GMC Terrain SLT in 2018 as a gently used vehicle with only 21,000 miles on it. I never had issues with it. I kept it regularly serviced and had to replace tires. At now over 93,000 it has been a comfortable and very reliable car. The only feature I wished it had was rear air conditioning. Living here in the SE it gets hot and it takes a “minute” to get the back of the vehicle cooled down. However, I rarely have back seat passengers, and thankfully, the really hot weather lasts only a few months! I have been very pleased with this car and would recommend it to others. I traded it in a week ago for a larger car only because I need the room for a grandchild, and my elderly parents.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable va
- Stock #
- 15425
- VIN
- 2GNALBEK7H1545556
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
DAMS AUTO LLC review
I'm a mechanic! Shelley is 100 percent honest. Honored to have met him! Dontchangeathing.
2017 Chevrolet Equinox review
We bought 2017 Chevrolet Equinox 4 cylinder. Pre owned with about 59k miles. It’s over 110k and we’ve had the oxygen sensor and catalytic converter replaced. Also 1 tire sensor. We’ve put the 2nd set of tires on the car yesterday. Always Michelin as recommended and brake shoes. I just have to say I still love my car. It’s paid for and I’ll drive her as long as I can.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Atlantis Blue Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 15261
- VIN
- 2GNALCEK9E6359196
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2014 Chevrolet Equinox review
Great value. It has been a great car for the money. I could not of found better. Bought new and it lasted 13 years and 130k miles and all I had to do was the listed maintenance plan. A large negative is that XM radio station can't be deleted. I have had to listen to that XM advertisement a million times. I can't figure out how it always finds its way back to being selected so it plays that f^@7i#g ad,
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- K32462A
- VIN
- 5NMJBCDE6RH393263
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Classic HyundaiReviews
Classic Hyundai review
I am extremely happy with Classic Hyundai service department. When it was time to purchase a new car I went to Classic Hyundai to thank them for the terrific service I've received. Mike N. was extremely professional and very easy to work with and was more than happy to purchase my new car from him. Thanks a lot Mike!
2024 Hyundai TUCSON review
This Tucson has been an awesome car. I've had no issues with it. It is comfortable and has plenty of power. It drives through snow and ice with ease.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Int. color
- Medium Ash Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- 14669
- VIN
- 3GNAXSEV4KS500407
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
DAMS AUTO LLC review
Boight a Mercedes s500 with 40k miles love it super easy transaction easy to deal with, straight to the point no b.s.
2019 Chevrolet Equinox review
The 2019 Chevy Equinox Premier 2.0 AWD is great overall. The 2.0 liter model is very reliable on the freeway and works wonderfully for family trips with children as the back seat is quite comfortable. The 1.5 liter model struggles to get up to freeway speeds in our prior test drive, but it doesn't feel like that at all with the 2.0 liter. The Bose Premium Audio does not have a subwoofer, but the speakers have a deep low range and provide the feeling of a full audio experience. It's quite entertaining when you are jamming out at high volume and your pantleg is rattling from the door speaker. Issue 1. The front seats are rather short leaving 4-5 finger widths from the end of the seat to the back of the legs which results in your legs feeling like they are dangling off the seat, whereas you want something closer to 2-3 finger widths. I am average height of 5'9", so this would be more uncomfortable for taller people. The passenger seat specifically presses into your right leg causing it to start to go numb after 30 minutes, so long road trips in the front passenger seat are quite uncomfortable. Issue 2. I have the 2.0 Premier AWD with every bell and whistle available, and it still "feels" like I am surrounded by plastic. I understand that Chevy is not a luxury brand, but the max comfort trim leaves much to be desired. Issue 3. The Adaptive Cruise feature will randomly disable itself in clear weather. It rarely happens, but it seems to happen for no obvious reason. Disabling Cruise Control and re-enabling it resolves the matter, so it is a minor annoyance more than anything. Something I found amusing - The owner's manual says to use 5w30 for all weather conditions above -20f, then has a caveat to use 0w30 in -20f conditions, and then on the next page has yet another caveat to use 0w40 in -20f conditions.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- GREY
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 15693
- VIN
- 2GNFLFEK1H6124304
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2017 Chevrolet Equinox review
No issues so far. All I’ve done other than tires and brakes is drivers front wheel bearing. Car drives very well. Maintained well too. By the book or Even better
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- 15571
- VIN
- 1C4PJMAB9GW145208
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2016 Jeep Cherokee review
Was at dealership shopping and this new Jeep Cherokee Lattitude came in on transport. Wanted it the minute I saw it. Jeep dealership had ordered it custom with every option I wanted. Blackout package, V6 a true dual exhaust, sport, power everthing, 4x4 etc. The 4x4 is excellent and never failed me! Its been flawless, aftermarket tuning has turned it into a screaming black speed machine. 112,000 miles so far. No issues with anything! Would buy another if they still made this Cherokee Latitude Special! One very satisfied customer!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Int. color
- Stone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duratec 2.5L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- 13338
- VIN
- 1FMCU9C7XBKA39695
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
2011 Ford Escape review
car performes well , overall satisfied with it , but it has a rust issue ! rust under the rear wheel frame on both sides , rust under the rear lift gate , chrome on the wheel reems peeling .
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 15541
- VIN
- 1C4NJCEB7ED890205
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DAMS AUTO LLCReviews
DAMS AUTO LLC review
I think Marin did an excellent job throughout the entire process. He was very quick to reply to my questions I had sent him. He agreed to stay later than normal business hours, due to our arrival time. The truck was pretty tmuch exactly as described, no pressure from him or the other gentlemen that were present. I would definitely buy from him again. As a customer, we need to be the ones to thoroughly check everything on the vehicle. There’s always some sort of risk involved when buying used, and don’t forget that the condition of the vehicles are due to the upkeep or lack of, by the previous owner. Thank you Marin, for a good buying experience for myself and my son.
2014 Jeep Compass review
2014 Jeep Compass: I’ve had some issues with my Jeep but overall I’ve loved it. Bought it in 2016 with 34,000 miles on it. Now January 2026 I have 146,000 miles. Seems that things started to happen when it turned 10 years old. Tends to rust in the same places with all these jeeps (lower door trim, lower hatch trim). Had to get both front bearings replaced about $350 each side (suspension needs to maintained per manual timelines then you’ll have no problem), drivers window pulley broke and did repair myself, replaced throttle body myself (my fault for not keeping enough gas in the car). With that, I would recommend going above 3 in RPMs every now and again to teach your throttlebody to open wider. I’ve always kept RPM’s under 2.5. Stereo went out which is common in these models (went ahead and got a aftermarket stereo), drivers power window switch replaced (did myself for $80). Also, check engine light WILL come on if an oil change is needed. If your dash says oil change, you’re already waaaay too low. Now, my coolant is leaking around the cap. Thankfully it’s an easy fix I can do myself (about $100 repair). If you’re handy, these vehicles are easy to work on and if you keep them maintained, they will last a long while. With regular maintenance, I hope to keep it for another 150,000 miles. Oh yeah, 4WD gets stuck on or off sometimes. Not sure why but always seems to happen in the winter. Go figure.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ecotronic Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Direct-Drive Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- K1664
- VIN
- KM8HE3A61RU011812
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Classic HyundaiReviews
Classic Hyundai review
Just bought my 4th Sonata from Classic Hyundai in Mentor. This dealership always gives me a great deal the first time. So much easier to deal with than any other dealership I have experience. Mike Lentine is great to work with.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- ASYC2319C
- VIN
- JF2SKAEC6PH467044
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
VA Motorcars LLC review
Amazing customer service Alex and Steve were so great treat you like family. I bought a Subaru Impreza 2008 with low mileage it had some maintenance issues they took care of it immediately I'm very happy.
2023 Subaru Forester review
Overall, at 60k miles, I’ve had no problems and am very happy. I average around 34 mpg’s with mixed driving. I’m happy with the acceleration as well, even though Subaru’s without a turbo are sometimes labeled as slow. I have no problem merging onto highways. The Forester is an easy to live with SUV/car. The rear room is adequate, although the CRV offers about 10 cubic feet more rear capacity. Visibility is excellent. The CVT is smooth and has simulated shifts, just make sure you change the fluid every 30k! I own the Limited with leather seats that are very comfortable. Sometimes the response time on the radio/touch screen can feel a little delayed. I also opted for the dimming driver/rear view mirrors which is great during winter commuting. It saves your eyes from glare. Very view cars offer this which is why I went with the Subaru. My only “major” complaint with the car is a slight rattle coming from the dash board area. It isn’t always there, but is present enough to bother me. Aside from that it is an excellent vehicle and value for the money!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- AVS19FR13C
- VIN
- JF2SKAEC6KH407676
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
VA Motorcars LLC review
I looked at VA Motorcars for a used Subaru. I was in luck because they specialized in used Subarus at great prices. However, they also specialize in rebuilt titles. Many of their cars have definitely been repaired very thoroughly and properly, my only issue was insuring a car of this status. I wish I could have given them my business, but they did not have the inventory at the time. However, everyone I spoke to at this lot was super helpful and very very friendly. If you are looking for a cheap used Subaru, definitely give them a look, they KNOW Subarus.
2019 Subaru Forester review
I had to make a 5 1/2 hour drive recently and loved how smoothly my car drove, especially using cruise control with “eyesight” so it slowed when I was too close to the car in front of me. I couldn’t even feel it; I watched the speedometer. Love the safety features and extras like seat warmers and large sunroof.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- AVLD25SP20C
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF67S3762297
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
2025 Subaru Crosstrek review
Love my new crosstrek! My Impreza was great too but the Crosstrek is more my style! I’ll return to Subaru when I’m ready for a new car!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- APET24165C
- VIN
- JF2GUADC7R8252664
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
VA Motorcars LLC review
Great experience- 100% online deal. Very smooth and informative. Even did a FaceTime walk around of the vehicle. Have been in touch after the sell and nothing but praise for Alex. Super helpful and always responds. Thanks guys.
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
Durable. I got the wilderness sport line. Very reliable and just a good compact SUV. As long as you maintain it, it will last forever.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- AVLS2321C
- VIN
- JF2SKANC3PH510433
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
2023 Subaru Forester review
LOVE this car, maybe a little biased since this is my 5th Forester, my 2nd Wilderness. My first Wilderness was totaled in a head-on collision when a young driver spilled coffee and veered into my lane and struck me head-on. That was my 1st Subaru Forester Wilderness and IT SAVED MY LIFE. Full curtain all-around airbag deployment with a roll, the Wilderness coming to rest on it's right side, me still strapped into seatbelt, and the Subaru automatic crash notification with a live person on the speakers asking me if I was ok and needed 911! Smoke still coming from the airbag deployments, and there is a live person coming over the speakers asking me if I'm ok. It was surreal. SUBARU FORESTER WILDERNESS SAVED MY LIFE! TYVM Subaru! LOVE this car! Gets 25+ MPG with conservative driving, a great ride and suspension, superior traction in mud and snow, load-out practically anything/rack bikes (or whatever on the roof racks), sleep in the back with ample room, superior rear-gate lift mechanism with memory, seats super-comfortable and easily adjustable, solid rear-seat leg-room, easy rear-seat fold-downs for massive cargo area that takes my full HVAC tool load-out for servicing ice baths all over the NorthEast US. A great value, especially CPO with +10K mileage (vs. new) MONEY WELL SPENT! SUBARU FOR LIFE
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 4628HY
- VIN
- 5XYK23DFXTG353637
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Hyundai ClevelandReviews
Spitzer Hyundai Cleveland review
Jovahn Lockhart was the sales person that assisted me in purchasing my 2025 Venue. He took the time to work with the sales manager to come to an acceptable dollar amount for the vehicle I was trading in. I would like to thank everyone at Spitzer Hyundia for for making the purchase a 5 star experience.
2026 Kia Sportage review
My car only has 700 miles on it. The interior is cheap & all black. It could ride better. It’s the standard engine & very peppy & fun to drive.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Garnet Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Tan Leather
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.2L V6 DOHC 24V
- Stock #
- ANT119C
- VIN
- WA1DKAFP9BA042941
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
VA Motorcars LLC review
I was originally sceptical when I saw all of the 5 star reviews. I thought that it was too good to be true. Now I know just how wrong I was. The service was excellent, Alex was just as honest and professional as I heard. I have had little to no problems with the car and am very happy.
2011 Audi Q5 review
Love this car and model have owned 2 Q5’s reliable one of mine had 195,000 miles and still no check engine lights or major repairs had to be done on it. Can’t stress enough how much I love this car! I do wish though the premium model came with the backup camera and the lane assist but that’s only in the premium plus models.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black w/Orange Stitching
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- AEM2317C
- VIN
- JF2GTAPC9PH252550
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
VA Motorcars LLCReviews
VA Motorcars LLC review
great no hidden fees just as ad said paint was great road ready new brakes new tires $5000 below book low miles thank you like new you should go look you will be happy Bob Leaser
2023 Subaru Crosstrek review
My first Subaru and I love it. Drives wonderful and is just perfect ❤️❤️. Handles with ease and very comfortable. So very happy with this one
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Arctic Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- U3090
- VIN
- KNMAT2MV7GP696953
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
National Used Cars Inc.Reviews
2016 Nissan Rogue review
I bought my 2016 Rogue SL in 2019 with 32,000 miles on it. It is now 2025 and it has 223,000 miles on it, and I still drive her daily with no issues. I have had to replace the car battery once and the fob battery twice. I also had to replace the front wheel bearings about 2 years ago. That is it! No check engine lights no engine or transmission issues, no sun roof leaks. Everything she started with still functions as well as the day i got her. This has been the best, most reliable incredible car i could have every asked for. I can not speak highly enough of the Rogue and am currently looking at getting another one and saving what is left of this one for my daughter.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 2.2L I-4 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 149HP
- Stock #
- U2637
- VIN
- 3GNCA23D88S679581
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
National Used Cars Inc.Reviews
2008 Chevrolet HHR review
Power steering recall warranty life. But tge dealer will fine something else wrong with it. To make you pay $$ instead of using the warranty free. Transaction module faulty. So you have to fix that so the power steering won't work. That should of been on recall too. I have an 2008 hhr chevy.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- STKT86771
- VIN
- 5UX43DT01R9T86771
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
Toby made the experience perfect! My husband and I watched the market for months before finding our ideal vehicle at Unlimited Motors. We had quite the commute and a busy home schedule that interfered with our availability to even get to the lot for a test drive. Toby was extremely accommodating in not only working out every detail in the agreement to fit our family's needs, but also in working around our schedules as much as possible to ensure we didn't lose out on the opportunity to purchase the vehicle. We have worked with many large dealerships all around Indiana but the experience at Unlimited was by far the most comfortable and trusting experience we have had so far. I highly recommend reaching out to Toby if you're in the market for a vehicle!
2024 BMW X4 review
This car is our first BMW. It may sacrifice some space, but that’s not a very big deal for us. This car is perfect for those who don’t need space, but need the capabilities of an SUV. We have the M40i version and it packs a punch. The 382 Hp B58 I6 is very quick in sport mode, and has very nice exhaust sounds. I love that it has rear AC, which is an upgrade from our previous car. This car also has ambient lighting which you can change the color of. The wireless Apple CarPlay is also very convenient. Although, it does not have the latest version of iDrive, it’s still decent and still includes a 12 in screen. If you don’t want to touch the screen and leave fingerprints, the X4 comes with a controller that you can use to control the screen. This car also has a good amount of physical buttons. Front seats have thigh extensions for those with long legs, and both seats automatically adjust. Overall, our family really likes this car and recommends it for buyers who want a unique take on BMW
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 7459
- VIN
- WDCGG8JB8DG096895
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
ENE MotorsReviews
ENE Motors review
Highly recommend this dealership for both service and purchasing a car. Nick McGrath took great care of us with our Audi and BMW. He was great in communication, made sure everything was handled properly, and kept pricing fair. They even identified and repaired an issue that the BMW dealership previously missed. Excellent experience overall.
2013 Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class review
i am the recent second owner from a family member that purchased new in 2013 and put 47k miles over 9 years. it is a comfortable& powerful. it has an attractive muscular design unlike all its competitors of its age as well as most now. not everyone wants a vehicle that is so similarly rounded as most the others. no wonder MB designed a boxier suv in the GLB. though the GLB is a turbo 4cyl fwd, making it less desirable imo.