Used cars for sale near Benton, MO
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$32,187
Est. $591/mo John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearl Coat (pxj)
- Int. color
- Wicker Beige/Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 293HP
- Stock #
- C7161
- VIN
- 1C4RJHBG5S8667518
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
We actually went there to buy a new vehicle, but they have a used lot across the street that is jam packed with cars and trucks. So we went over there and found a pre owned vehicle at a payment WAY less than what we had figured we would have to pay. We have since checked prices and found ours was at or BELOW the best prices out there. I cant remember our sales guy, but he just seemed like a regular guy with no tricky stuff.
2025 Jeep Grand Cherokee review
What a great look. I have bought several cars and trucks over the past few years, from 2 trucks for me and helped the family with other cars. I wanted to get something for looks and the 2025 Grand Cherokee fit the bill. Style and looks, 10 out of 10 in my opinion. Good on the mileage and performance. Great dealership and people at Ray's CDJR in Fox Lake. They treat you like you should be, with respect through the entire process.
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$46,487
Est. $854/mo John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearl Coat (pxj)
- Int. color
- Sea Salt/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Hurricane 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, twin turbo, regular gasoline, engine with 420HP
- Stock #
- C7123
- VIN
- 1C4SJSAP9SS518175
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I bought my Grand Cherokee new there and always take it there for service. Yes it costs me a little more than a discount place but they always check for stuff like recalls, and do things like update my radio and navigation system. I usually just drop it off and have them shuttle me to work, which I like as well!
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$31,987
Est. $587/mo John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Hydro Blue Pearl Coat (pbj)
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premium gasoline, engine with 270HP
- Stock #
- 24-415A
- VIN
- 1C4HJXEN3MW703608
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Was looking to buy a used long bed pickup and found it at John Morlans. A great vehicle at a good price. They are good people to work with and are highly recommended.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited review
I special ordered my 2021 4 dr Sahara in Feb of 2022 and received it 4/1. I have previously owned 4 JK models over the yrs. The 2021 I just love. the interior appts, the dash layout with the nav. I got the upgraded leather seats and paint color white with One Touch Skyview top. Got the 3.6 with E torque for powerplant. They improved on the brakes vs JK. Much stronger!
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$35,487
Est. $652/mo John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Rocky Mountain Pearl Coat (pfj)
- Int. color
- Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 293HP
- Stock #
- 27-081A
- VIN
- 1C4RJHBG4RC223652
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
John Morlan Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I went to the pre owned lot and used the same guy my mother used. His name is Don Garner and he helped me so much! I couldn’t decide and ended up coming back the same day to tell him I wanted that specific vehicle and he did everything he could to put me in it! I’m SO GRATEFUL!
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee review
IIt was one of the most reliable cars I have ever driven, with a great ride, smooth and comfortable interior, and a feeling of safety like being inside a steel capsule; the Altitude X 4x4 is something unique in its design and performance with the iconic Pentastar engine.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Quartz Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Cocoa / Dune
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- P4893
- VIN
- 3GTU2MEC9JG165158
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2018 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Am in disbelief every week at the Gas Pumps. Thou a big truck, mileage per gallons are 18 +. Last week it was 22.8. This week 19.78.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- F3082A
- VIN
- 1GCGTDEN9N1189444
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2022 Chevrolet Colorado review
I have a gas ZR2 in blue, and it is my dream truck. The build quality is so good on these! The doors shut with a solid thud, the intuitiveness of the interior...it was the best truck available in 2022. I got mine before the '23 models and I am so very glad I did. I looked at all available mid-sized trucks, Jeeps, Tacos, Nissan, etc...none felt as solid as the ZR2. Almost two years now, and coming up on 25k. Oil changes and had the tires balanced, did all of the fluids at 5k. You have to allow for Chevy Quirkiness, and you'll love it. The A/C can be weird.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- EBONY ACTIVEX TRIMMED
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- TWIN-SCRL 2.0L ECOBOOST ENG
- Stock #
- P4830
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J92RBA98758
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2024 Ford Edge review
7 Ford Edges and the 2024 is rock solid yet quiet and great performance. Everyone wants to use the Edge when we go anywhere. The controls are easy to use for non distracted driving. Long road trips are un eventful and tires last forever. Loading space in the rear is flat easy and lots of space. Good visibility and safe.
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$30,799
Est. $566/mo Lincoln Groves
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- DARK PALAZZO GRAY VINYL
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- P4803
- VIN
- 1FTBF7X83PKA36601
Dealer
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Stellar Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Cirrus
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- P4860
- VIN
- 1GYKNCRS6MZ211375
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2021 Cadillac XT5 review
Road noise is loud, Water leak in front passenger side during heavy rain or car wash. Engine noise that the tech can’t locate. The XT 5 is a very nice size SUV. For a high end vehicle the warranty should be better in length and milage..
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl White
- Int. color
- Light Frost Beige
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.4L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- T10339C
- VIN
- 3C63R3JL7NG290065
Dealer
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iridescent Pearl Tricoat
- Int. color
- Mahogany
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- P4909
- VIN
- 1GNSKJKJ3LR135415
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2020 Chevrolet Suburban review
2020 Suburban Premier has all the bells and whistles! We love the comfort and safety of this vehicle. Even the gas mileage is not as "terrible" as we feared it could be, averaging for our driving needs about 18.7 mpg. There are a couple of issues with our particular vehicle that are issues, however... the running boards that are supposed to automatically roll out, don't always! I have gotten underneath and rinsed the joints with WD40 and lubricated them, and it is better, but still not 100%. The second row seats (captain chairs) do not adjust forward and backward. I am a tall fellow (6'3"), so you do not want to sit behind me! That is simply a design/engineering flaw. We are currently having sporadic issues with the tire inflation sensors and they are probably starting to need replacement. Buy a used car, expect some minor repairs! Would I buy it again? ABSOLUTELY!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- FORGED GREEN
- Int. color
- EBONY ACTIVEX TRIMMED
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- TWIN-SCRL 2.0L ECOBOOST ENG
- Stock #
- P4890
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J91RBA78971
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2024 Ford Edge review
I owned a 2017 Fusion Platinum and did not want to get a SUV. Knowing the Edge was based on the same platform, I gave the 2024 a spin. I was impressed. It drove, handled, braked, and steered very well. I drove many cars, and even though Ford had not redesigned in a while, it was more enjoyable to drive than the Audi Q5 and Lexus RX. I rated the value a 3 because it is expensive. The Titanium Elite price is in the Lexus/Audi ballpark. I really wanted the Audi because I have owned some in the past, but the Edge was more sporty and more comfortable. I drove the ST and I was surprised that it did not feel a lot faster. This wqas the same with the Fusion. You can tell the ST was faster, but it did not jump off the line like I was expecting. I was disappointed the edge lost some equipment from the past as it is being phased out. So I added it. I added the hood insulation, the engine cover, the cargo cover, LED lighted sill plates, and the laminated acoustic glass on the front doors, all purchased from FORD dealers to make sure they were the real deal. I also added the keyless entry keypad (securicode). I was really disappointed they deleted securicode. The interior is not flashy like an Audi, but I like that it is understated. The carmello seat and door inserts make the car very audi-ish and special. It is too bad this is the last year. The Lincoln Nautilus lives on as the next generation in the USA. I can tell it has roots from the Fusion. That is also gone.
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$28,626
New 2027 Nissan Sentra SR
$23,756
New 2027 Nissan Sentra S
$23,726
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$26,916
New 2027 Nissan Sentra SR
$26,118
New 2027 Nissan Sentra SR
$26,595
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$27,180
New 2027 Nissan Sentra SR
$27,210
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$23,756
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$25,294
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$23,726
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$30,595
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- ANTIMATTER BLUE
- Int. color
- BLACK LEATHER
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- 6.7L POWER STROKE V8 DIESEL
- Stock #
- P4867
- VIN
- 1FT7W2BT9MED43057
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2021 Ford F-250 review
First Ford I-have ever owned. Just wanted a extended cab Not a crew cab .Ford only one that has one. Go8ng to try it out to see if I like it
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L V6 24V DDI DOHC Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- P4817
- VIN
- 1C6SRFJM3PN549585
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2023 RAM 1500 review
Bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited new and owned for 4 years. The starter went out twice under !00,000 miles so replaced 2 starters, had spark plug miss fire that had to get fixed, had exhaust manifold crack making the clicking sound upon startup, gas mileage got bad around 80,000 miles. I loved my truck but was stuck 2 where truck wouldn't start because the starter Ram uses is too small and not enough power for the start/stop and this size of engine. Also, heated seats are not hot at all. Coming from a F150 where the heated seats were incredibly hot which felt great, Ram not so much.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- ICONIC SILVER
- Int. color
- EBONY PERF LTHR-TRIM SEATS
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- TWIN-SCRL 2.0L ECOBOOST ENG
- Stock #
- P4902
- VIN
- 2FMPK4K91LBA34054
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2020 Ford Edge review
We've owned the 2020 Ford Edge for over 5 years and purchased the car new. Just one recent issue with a sensor for the AWD system during that time. Car drives well with decent power and gets 24-26 mpg in mixed driving and around 30 mpg on the highway. Very comfortable and would consider buying another if they still made them. Only downside is that the car doesn't seem to hold its value that well when compared to the Japanese brands.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- T10314A
- VIN
- 3GCUYEED1MG431662
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 review
A hard clunk bump on acceleration still looks new I've got a 24 mile stretch of road. Need reliable Vehicle. No break downs ....................................... No more to write.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RUBY RED METALLIC TINTED CC
- Int. color
- EBONY LTHR-TRIM/SUEDED PERF
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.7L V6 ECOBOOST ENGINE
- Stock #
- P4894
- VIN
- 2FMPK4AP1KBC33894
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2019 Ford Edge review
It's a nice vehicle. Roomy. Great features. The trunk has a lot of food. Lots of head room and leg room. Would recommend this vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Maroon Brown
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- P4916
- VIN
- YV4A22RL2L1509218
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2020 Volvo XC60 review
Waited a long time to go from a 2010 to a 2020 XC60. There is no comparison to the fit, comfort, and digital experience. The stereo is outstanding. Like night and day. And I really like the older XC60!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI SOHC
- Stock #
- P4879
- VIN
- 5FNYF8H58NB010140
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2022 Honda Passport review
Perfect family of 4 SUV with a bunch of space. AVG 23.5 mph. The 9 speed transmission is not as smooth as the older 6 speeds. I wish you could permanently turn of the stop/Start. So far so good.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- EBONY LEATHER-TRIM SEATS
- Transmission
- 10SPD AUTO TRANS W/SLCTSHFT
- Engine
- 3.5L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- P4906
- VIN
- 1FMJK2ATXMEA02328
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2021 Ford Expedition review
Been a great vehicle very few issues other than catalytic converter which was replaced under warranty at 79K miles. I drive a lot for work no issues
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK ONYX ACTIVEX SEAT MTR
- Transmission
- 10SPD AUTO TRANS W/SLCTSHFT
- Engine
- 3.5L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- P4809
- VIN
- 1FMJK1J82REA59068
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
Dealer
Lincoln GrovesReviews
2024 Ford Expedition review
Purchased new July 5, 2024 now have approx 16,000 miles recently took a trip that was total 4,000 miles. Wife states as the most comfortable vehicle she’s ever had especially on this long trip pulling a 6x12 enclosed motorcycle trailer from Chicago to Scottsdale, AZ. Nimble handling even in the mountains and plenty of power! 5 Stars Ford!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Meteorite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P0254
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H73TH486286
Dealer
Cape Girardeau HondaReviews
2026 Honda CR-V review
It is a great ride and the features are amazing It was very affordable . The color is great also very roomy and stylish I would recommend it to anyone looking for a crv
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Ivory
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- 27106A
- VIN
- 2HKRW2H94NH635642
Dealer
Cape Girardeau HondaReviews
2022 Honda CR-V review
Have had Hondas in the past they are a very reliable car. They are worth the money and last for a long time. Trustworthy best describes my Honda.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mosaic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic Electronic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 1.5L DOHC
- Stock #
- B26-447A
- VIN
- 3GNAXKEV9NL242514
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Autry Morlan Inc.Reviews
Autry Morlan Inc. review
Quality Service Advice, doing a great job. They are knowledgeable and friendly with fast service. I feel my needs and concerns were well taken care of .
2022 Chevrolet Equinox review
I have owned 3 Chevy equinox and I like the way it looks and handles. It is a great family vehicle and very comfortable and safe. All 3 of my Equinox were the Premier class well worth the extra money and more features.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cloudburst Gray
- Int. color
- Glazed Caramel
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-i variable valve contr
- Stock #
- R89639
- VIN
- JTHBZ1B23R5072831
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
AutoCenters NissanReviews
AutoCenters Nissan review
Kelly was very helpful and easy to work with she made the process very smooth I will and already have referred a friend to your dealership
2024 Lexus IS 350 review
Love this car! I’m a 60 year old female , I lease this Lexus and it’s so much fun to drive! Love the sleek look, the sport mode, the radio rocks! Not one complaint… I looked around… decided on the V6, IS 350, and it’s a pure joy to drive! You won’t regret it!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic with Sequential Shift
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-i variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 17005702
- VIN
- JTHCZ1BL5HA005702
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Crossroads Car and TruckReviews
Crossroads Car and Truck review
My purchase went very smoothly and quickly. I went for a test driving just a few minutes after arriving. Satisfied, moved on to closing. While setting up new auto insurance, all paperwork was prepared. Donald was very experienced and explained things clearly and patiently until I understood. I am glad I found a good car at a good price here!
2017 Lexus GS 350 review
I bought this 2017 GS 350 as my third GS I’ve owned. It is the best of the 3. I bought it new and had for 10 years. Still looks great and runs the same. I love driving it and will hate giving it up at some point as they no longer make them.