Cheap cars for sale in Bern, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 9979
- VIN
- 4S3BMBC6XE3009657
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
443 Auto Sales review
They do a great job in getting you the car you want . I would buy from them any time
2014 Subaru Legacy review
I love the AWD system. The car handles very well in snow. It handles really good no matter the road conditions. I've owned this car for 7 years and it's never left me stranded. Gets decent gas mileage. And it has great visibility. The 2014 Legacy 3.6R is overall my favorite car I've ever owned. If I had one thing I'd like to see improved, it would be to make a turbo or preferably a twin turbo version with like 450HP.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Radiant Red
- Int. color
- Dark Gray cloth
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- 1L NA I4 double overhead cam (DOHC) 16V
- Stock #
- 6C556944STK
- VIN
- 2T1LR32E16C556944
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
Sam's AutoReviews
Sam's Auto review
I had a great experience with Sam. This is a great place to get a used prius and have an experienced mechanic to work on it. My gut feeling, Sam is an honest, hardworking guy, and I would do business with him again when the time comes to purchase another vehicle.
2006 Toyota Matrix review
This is really a great car and has served us so well. We were going to drive it until it died (a long way off) but got a deal on a family member's car that I could not pass up. The car has a huge cargo area with the seats folded flat. It has great visibility and is a pleasure to drive. Reliable and in excellent condition. I have service records from Day 1 of owning it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- 10047
- VIN
- 3GNCJPSB8HL182201
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
443 Auto Sales review
Just bought a used subaru at 443 auto sales . staff was very friendly and helpful . Love my car . had a noise in the front and they fixed it. I would recommend this dealership to anyone looking for a car.
2017 Chevrolet Trax review
A little more than 2 years ago I bought a used 2017 Chevy Trax LT AWD, with a 1.4L engine. In addition, this vehicle was in a wreck which got hit on the rear end of the vehicle. However, the vehicle was fixed before purchasing it and I bought it with a fair price, with 49k original miles. Now the Trax has 97k miles and has had his fair amount of issues. Additionally, at 60k miles the turbo was leaking antifreeze and had to replace it with the valve that was attached to it. Also, I had some minor issues on the AC controller which h I had to have those replaced, and sooner or later I'm going to have to replace the blower motor since it's making a weird sound when it's on. This vehicle has treated me good since I've been keeping up with the regular oil changes (I usually buy Mobile 1 oil and filter, advance full synthetic) and I usually change also the air filter every 15k-30k miles. Also I've done 2 tune ups with new spark plugs and coils. To be honest if yiu do the regular maintenance you won't have any issues especially the engine and transmission. Furthermore, in a couple of days I'll be replacing the break pads, and also just FYI the 1.4L engine has a timing chain, so if you do the regular oil changes it will last forever. Soon I'll be replacing the gaskets and water pump since it's about to turn 100k mikes. All in all, I give it a 4.0-4.5 overall rating, space if very bad you can't fit regular size adults in the rear seats!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black/leather
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4
- Stock #
- 1357
- VIN
- 5XYKTCA65FG644536
Dealer
Alberts Auto SalesReviews
Alberts Auto Sales review
They had the exact truck i was looking for.Even though they were 100 miles or more away they made it easy for me to make the deal.
2015 Kia Sorento review
Owned a 2015 Sorrento since 2018. It's a great SUV, very comfortable and smooth quiet ride. Lots of power (v6). No issues only routine maintenance.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Red Tintcoat
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 10058
- VIN
- 2GKFLTEK0D6410392
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
2013 GMC Terrain review
check the oil every tank fill, dealer advised if it dropped too far it would scrap the timing chain, interference engine lock up. a 6 inch strip of paint blistered off the roof, the rear deck won't set down horizontal (everything slides to the rear. rides like a limo, handles like a dream, no real probs. 168k on the odo.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 9878
- VIN
- JF2SJADC3FH806720
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
2015 Subaru Forester review
Bought my 2015 Subaru 2.0XT Touring brand spanking new off the Subaru dealership's lot. Have owned it all this time about 9 years straight. Take care of your car with regular oil changes, servicing at recommended intervals, and your car will take care of you. Performed the required recalls during service periods. Not 1 single regret on owning this car, ever. It rides smooth and true. Had a clicking issue in the ball joints 2 years ago which Subaru fixed free of charge. Other than that, this car has been my dream machine.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Cherry Red Crystal Pearlcoat
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 10049
- VIN
- 1C4RJFBG4DC638774
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee review
This car has met my needs and want's. Looking forward to comfort and reliability. Once again Lonnie there was no pressure in the buying process. Thank you all at Miller Motor's
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Satin Steel Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-40
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 9971
- VIN
- 1G1BE5SM5J7143891
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
443 Auto Sales review
I was there to purchase a car, not for myself, but for what I will call our "charity case". Joe and Phil and Truck were very understanding of the situation, and while I did not purchase a car for said charity case, they left more than a few doors open for me to do so, if it's meant to be. No pressure, nice guys, if the car is still there, I will buy it.
2018 Chevrolet Cruze review
I, and my wife bought a 2018 Chevy Cruze LS Sedan in February 2018 brand new right off the back of the delivery truck. We simply take very good care of "PIP" as we call him, and he has and does take very good care of us. The key is keep up with all of the maintance before it is needed! Great car overall, only 41, 767 Miles!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Twilight Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Theta II 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variab
- Stock #
- 10038
- VIN
- KNDPB3AC7F7700262
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
443 Auto Sales review
They were very helpful, great quality in service, I will recommend to everybody and very nice personal, prices were excellent, compare with others leaders they offer the best prices, we got our truck the same day they made the process so quick, it was excellent.
2015 Kia Sportage review
Spunky little AWD with 2.4L engine. I had it sold a couple of weeks ago (65K miles) and the very next day the engine started knocking. I took it straight to the local dealer and the engine was replaced per PI1802W/X Product Improvement Campaign. It now has a lifetime transferrable warranty on the engine. The kid I had it sold to was willing to wait for the repairs. He'll have a great new to him car tomorrow with the engine warranty.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine wi
- Stock #
- 10066
- VIN
- JF2GPACC8E8291587
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
2014 Subaru XV Crosstrek review
Best car I ever owned. 135000 miles. No problems will buy a new new new new new new new new new new new new new
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 10064
- VIN
- JF2SJADC3FH443481
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
2015 Subaru Forester review
Bought this car three years old with less than 50K miles on it. I’ve loved it since we got it. It has been very reliable, fun to drive, with pretty minor drawbacks. For example the maintenance has been very minimal. I haven’t noticed ANY oil burning or leaking (I have personally changed the oil every 3-4K miles). Sometimes on long trips it will burn some oil and need a top off, which the car alerts us to. Overall I’d buy this car over and over as long as it fit my needs at the time. Currently looking into an Ascent for future hockey trips and other trips.
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$5,500
Est. $99/mo Red Kieffer's Auto Repairs, Inc.
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Beige
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.2L
- Stock #
- 165A
- VIN
- WDBJF72FOVA317709
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Red Kieffer's Auto Repairs, Inc.Reviews
1997 Mercedes-Benz E-Class review
I bought a 1997 C230 for $1300. Was told it needed the coil packs replaced. I bought the original OEM parts on eBay along with new spark plugs for right around $40. After replacing the plugs and coils and resetting the codes THIS CAR RUNS AND DRIVES LIKE A DREAM. I still can’t believe I bought this car for $1300 and only put $40 into it. It’s 25 years old and is in mint condition. Not a single dent on it. 195000 miles and it drives like it’s brand new. I feel like I stole this car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black/Leather
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4
- Stock #
- 5519
- VIN
- JHLRD78976C004225
Dealer
Alberts Auto SalesReviews
Alberts Auto Sales review
I found a nice , clean car with low mileage at a fair price here!
2006 Honda CR-V review
My dad bought this car around 2010. Used it, gave it to my mom, my mom gave it to me in 2020. Rarely had issues. Hearty car, withstood my neglect. Never needed anything other than oil changes. It got totaled in an accident last week. I'm grieving the loss. This car was a champion until the very end. RIP Barbara.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 133.0HP 2.2L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 4T1BG22K2WU294710
Reviews
1998 Toyota Camry review
Talk about getting your money's worth. You can't kill those cars you don't have to be rich to own a car good reliable car am proud of Toyota for having put out such honest good car I love my Camry oh what a feeling TOYOTA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 215.0HP 3.3L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 5TDZA23C96S550471
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
Reviews
2006 Toyota Sienna review
We bought our Sienna new to take the kids to college, and back. They are all gone now. We had this car for 20 years and we loved, but after 20 years it started to require more maintenance than we were giving it. So we bought a new Toyota and are sorry to see the car go.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3
- Stock #
- 1109
- VIN
- 2GTEK19T941110414
Dealer
Alberts Auto SalesReviews
Alberts Auto Sales review
VERY NICE AND EASY TO WORK WITH. OWNER WAS NOT PUSHY AT ALL. VEHICLE WAS CLEAN AND READY TO GO . I would recommend this dealer
2004 GMC Sierra 1500 review
My dad bought the Sierra brand new in 2004 and I recently got it as a hand me down 2nd truck, and all I can say is it's perfect for what I need. Most reliable truck ever and I can get up to 16 in town and 22 on the highway. The 5.3 liter Vortec LM7 is probably the best engine ever made. The transmission is very responsive and the truck is surprisingly quick. And the 4 wheel drive works. My S10 never did that. Would definitely recommend. My only complaint is the ride is quite stiff with the twin leaf spring tow suspension, but it's supposed to be because it's toe suspension.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gun Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic 1-Speed
- Engine
- Electric 107hp 187ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- GC303612STK
- VIN
- 1N4BZ0CP2GC303612
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sam's AutoReviews
Sam's Auto review
Sam's Auto is growing because they do great work and explain exactly what is going on. They offered me a used replacement part for my prius dash saving me over $300 dollars. Sam's understands the benefits of EV's and hybrids and excels at working on and selling these vehicles. Sam even offers free EV charging at his lot.
2016 Nissan Leaf review
I didn’t expect such a nice and Comfortable car. The trunk area has as much space as our Liberty. For all our town driving it fits our needs. We have the same range as a model 3 Tesla for one third the price. Love the quit and smooth ride!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Brown
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 40425
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H63CB140425
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Klutch MotorsReviews
Klutch Motors review
Great prices no xx with these guys The owners are super friendly, honest and straight to the point and super helpful
2012 Honda Odyssey review
This car is wider than other minivans, providing more space and legroom for the kids. It drives ultra smooth and is super comfortable. Only complaint is that there is only 1 built in USB port and is located in the glove compartment.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 1
- Stock #
- 10061
- VIN
- 4S4BRBBC1B3330499
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
443 Auto SalesReviews
443 Auto Sales review
Phil was very helpful in assisting my boyfriend and I make our decision and purchase a used vehicle. The process was timely and painless. I would recommend 443 Auto Sales to friends looking to buy used vehicles.
2011 Subaru Outback review
Handles good. Wins safety awards, hope we never test that. We do like our 2015 better. My wife's sister's Tribeca kept them alive but was totaled. Can't seem to get the mileage it said on the sticker.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 12-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 375.0HP 5.0L 8 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- SALAK2D46DA671012
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Reviews
2013 Land Rover LR4 review
Bought a second hand 2013 LR4 HSE a few months ago with 90k miles on it It was much better than expected, really Will kept it for a long time It’s a spacious, luxury, very comfortable vehicle, even better than newer Discovery generation
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Phantom Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 1.8L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V Dual CVVT PZEV
- Stock #
- LP105897A
- VIN
- 5NPDH4AEXBH002808
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Allentown KiaReviews
Allentown Kia review
I've never had any issues. Like with anything, when you find a good place to go, you stick with it. Their service department may be for cars but they service the customer as well.
2011 Hyundai ELANTRA review
The car met the needs of my wife for a mid to small vehicle. Plenty of room, good storage, easy to drive and goes in the garage easy.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT Transmission
- Engine
- 130.0HP 1.8L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 3N1AB7AP8EY338538
Reviews
2014 Nissan Sentra review
I bought my car in 2014 with 5 miles on it. I changed the oil, had the CVT fluid changed at the intervals recommended by Nissan and I never had any problems with my car. Someone hit me and totaled my vehicle the end of September 2023. My car had 159,999 in the odometer at that time. I was trying to make it last as long as possible. I know what others say about this car but it was a great car and I’ve never had any issues or problems with it. Sad to see it gone.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 162.0HP 2.4L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- KNAFG525977047313
Reviews
2007 Kia Rondo review
I bought my 2007 Rondo in 2017 for $5888 with 30,000 miles. I love the room in the 2nd row and I can carry furniture with the 2nd row seats down. It passed inspection after $600,00 for new sensors. The only problem I had was the lights kept flashing when someone walked by when I bought it. The Kia dealer knew the fix. The pin under the hood was bent. I haven't had any issues since. I just sold my Rondo at auction for $4,500. Fantastic car, easy to drive and not a cockpit experience like new cars are today.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Orange
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 169.0HP 2.4L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 3GSCL33P28S677297
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Stability Control
Reviews
2008 Saturn Vue review
I have owned two 2008 Saturn Vue. First one had a accident where was hit by a pickup truck doing roughly 45 mph, in the rear. The deck behind rear seats and chasis observed the impact. No one in car was hurt. Second Vue now has 213,000 miles on it. Just replaced replaced radiator. Replaced wheel bearing, caliper, rotors and tires all way around car. Good inexpensive transportation. Engine could use more guts. But it gets you down the road.