Used GMC cars for sale near Oneida, NY
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- BE0615
- VIN
- 3GKALTEV7NL306869
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
NYE ChevroletReviews
NYE Chevrolet review
Daniel Bennet best sales man I have ever worked with. I have purchased a few vechiles over the yrs always went to Sun Chevy-after my last experience there I was hesitant to ever purchase again. I went to Nye based on recommendations and it was the best experience ever. Daniel was up front, honest,helped me find the best deal and any discount available. There was no pressure, no hidden cost or service fees. Joanne in financing was also beyond amazing. This is a small dealership but the best one I have ever visited. I can't believe I didn't go here sooner.
2022 GMC Terrain review
I fell in love with my GMC Terrain when I test drove it and have not lost that loving feeling! I have received tons of compliments on it.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- BG0564
- VIN
- 3GKALTEGXPL159693
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
NYE Buick GMCReviews
NYE Buick GMC review
Eli did a great job very helpful with the phone very patient with me thanks
2023 GMC Terrain review
We purchased the Denali Terrain 2023. The car is great. I have had four knee surgeries and needed a car to get in and out easily and comfort seating. The controls for adjusting the seat just the way you like are great. I am troubled also by back problems and totally love the heated seat when needed. Sometimes I just want to ride around and turn the heat on and adjust seat so my back feels better. The different controls and are numerous. I love the safety control warnings and info with traffic. The screen is fabulous and helps so much. When ever I park I like to drive in and park and then hold on brake put it in reverse so the screen then comes on and shows how I parked. I like the levers in cargo area for putting seats down and also like how flat they sit. Plenty of room. The back seat is roomy even when person in front is back. Enjoy being up higher than a vehicle. I feel I can see more and it also makes me feel safer. The Terrain looks beautiful and love all the chrome in front. The car seems bumpy but not as bad as our last. The roads are in rough shape here. It has a lot of pick-up my husband demonstrated that to me and he wont be doing that again unless it is necessary. It is a turbo 4 cylinder and can not believe the power you feel. All in all Iove the car and getting good mileage. Purchased car from Boucher in Waukesha. They were not pushy. Explained everything in detail and were very fair. Great place to purchase!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Volcanic Red
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 30223A
- VIN
- 3GTUUDEL9PG333500
Dealer
Steet-Ponte Ford LincolnReviews
Steet-Ponte Ford Lincoln review
Great people to work with. Friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable. They checked over my vehicle for any other issues and completed the work in a timely manner.
2023 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Stong engine and smooth! Highly recommend for familys or someone who likes a smooth truck. Purchased new and have had zero issues since then. Love it!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 126455A
- VIN
- 3GKALTEG1PL176219
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mastrovito HyundaiReviews
Mastrovito Hyundai review
Working with Belmin made for a pleasant car buying experience. My vehicle was made ready for me in a short time. The overall feeling in the showroom was very positive
2023 GMC Terrain review
We are very happy with our Terrain Denali. Our first choice was the 2023 Lincoln Corsair 1a but there are no in inventory. The Terrain Denali was 1b. Great styling exterior and interior
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 15881
- VIN
- 1GKKNRL45MZ219152
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rome Pre-Owned Auto SalesReviews
Rome Pre-Owned Auto Sales review
Working with the entire team at RPO Was a great experience. James was very helpful and worked with us to make sure we were happy! Anthony could not have been more professional and accommodating. He made our car buying experience enjoyable!
2021 GMC Acadia review
My 2021 GMC Acadia is by far the best car I have ever driven. I always feel very safe and secure in it as it has many safety features, like a warning light on the side mirrors a car is approaching. I love the helpful guides for parking. It rides so quietly and comfortable, too— like on a cloud!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 15765
- VIN
- 3GKALYEG9RL207927
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Rome Pre-Owned Auto SalesReviews
Rome Pre-Owned Auto Sales review
This dealership went above & beyond for me as I had a trade in with some negative equity. They managed to get me out of my last car & get me into something bigger than I wanted. My payment only went up $60 & the warranty is unbeatable! Even after the buying process, I still contact them with questions & they respond immediately with answers. If you ever need or want a new car, contact Rhiannon & her friends over at RPO! Thanks again!
2024 GMC Terrain review
I always bought the GMC Acadia (4 times) but decided to try the terrain. I absolutely love it and it's a great car for zipping around in town. I would take it for a weekend trip but not on a long trip as it doesn't have a lot of cab room, but for two people it is fine
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- D3626A
- VIN
- 3GKALXEG7PL272153
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
LeadCar GMC Utica review
Tim Clark and Ray Bennett from LEADCAR GMC, made the process of buying my truck completely seamless. They went above and beyond, supported and facilitated my search for the vehicle l wanted, decision making, and the paperwork, seamlessly. They also helped my close friend with his first-ever GMC brand-new truck, and gave him a deal that made one other local GMC competitor?s deal look like a highway robbery! They are a great team and an absolute asset to LEADCAR. This was my 3rd GMC AT4!
2023 GMC Terrain review
Pleased with overall package. Not for speed enthusiasm driving but will get you there. Average gas mileage. Ride not the smoothest but okay. Overall, I'm pleased. Haven't had an American car in years. This Terrain SLT is nice 👍🏾.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cayenne Red Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- EC2491A
- VIN
- 3GKALTEV3NL207708
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
NYE ChevroletReviews
NYE Chevrolet review
This service appointment was no different than before because they maintain a level of professionalism and experience that I have not seen at any other dealership I've been to. Paul. Sarah and Patrick make every visit an enjoyable one. They remember my name and talk to me like a person, not a number. I will continue to take both my vehicles and recommend family and friends to do the same.
2022 GMC Terrain review
Absolutely LOVE this car is one of my favorites by far. Midsize SUV with all the features of a full size luxury vehicle. Can’t beat the heated seats, power lift gate, and the amazing panoramic sunroof they added on these models. Will continue to buy this model for years to come highly recommend an affordable and practical vehicle!
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$38,985
Est. $678/mo Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc.
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- P5351
- VIN
- 1GKENNKS7RJ236563
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc.Reviews
Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc. review
The only place we buy or bring our vehicles to! Reymore Chevrolet?s service department is top-notch! We highly recommend Reymore Chevrolet to all our friends and family without hesitation!
2024 GMC Acadia review
great styling and interior. nice features and acceptable performance. overall my Denali is a superior product to similar vehicles. I would recommend this GMC Acadia.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- G3965A
- VIN
- 1GKKNXL4XPZ162990
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
LeadCar GMC Utica review
Excellent, outstanding, and terrific! Need I say more? Fantastic, super, awesome! OK, ten more words.... I repeat.....Excellent, outstanding, and terrific! Fantastic, super, awesome! Thank you!!
2023 GMC Acadia review
I have owned my Acadia just under one year. It is quiet, stylish, has an easy and very effective infotainment system, owns five star safety and shows every indication of being as reliable as the Yukon I owned for 20 years. This Suv will go to 60 mph in about 6.0 seconds flat. It has 20 inch wheels and tires and will turn better and stop faster than most every Suv. I have front and rear heated seats, cooled seats, a sunroof, memory settings and this is only an SLT. My gas mileage routinely exceeds EPA (with AWD). Driving from Milwaukee to Chicago, I averaged 29.8 MPG at 75 mph. EPA is 26 MPG at 65 mph. I truly LOVE that Car and Driver rates this SUV near the bottom. Better for me. I have the Home Run. The OWNERS of the GMC Acadia rate this SUV higher than Highlander Palisade, Explorer, Telluride and all the rest. Count me among them. FYI, not a GM employee, just a happy customer.
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$30,175
Est. $525/mo Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc.
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Twilight Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- P5268
- VIN
- 3GKALUEG4SL232541
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc.Reviews
Reymore Chevrolet Sales, Inc. review
The sales rep, Corey was great to work with my truck was in for a repair with parts back ordered for months not the dealerships fault but Chevrolet?s fault they disappointed me however I looked at the new trucks and bought one. I love it. The dealership has been very good to me.
2025 GMC Terrain review
So far the car is going great. We have had no problems driving everywhere and so far had no need for services. It is a great care for me and my husband,
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duramax 6.6L V-8 diesel direct injection, intercooled turbo, die
- Stock #
- 3329B
- VIN
- 1GT49REY5LF135051
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Crest CadillacReviews
Crest Cadillac review
I purchased a 2017 Chevy Impala Premier on 9/17. I can not express how I felt buying this car! First, Greg Zimmer treated me as if I was buying a brand new Cadillac. Second, Chris Brown in finance treated me the same. This Company is for the people!!! Not for making top dollar on sales. Not enough room to say all I want to say but I WILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND CREST CADILLAC!!!
2020 GMC Sierra 2500 review
This truck is the truck that all others should look up to. It rides great, will tow a house, runs smooth, and gets great fuel economy. The Allison transmission is so smooth. The AT4 looks great too.
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$107,985
New 2026 GMC Yukon XL AT4 Ultimate 
$99,664
New 2026 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4X 
$113,859
New 2026 GMC Yukon XL Denali Ultimate 
$83,725
New 2026 GMC Yukon XL Elevation 
$100,244
New 2026 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4X 
$73,374
New 2026 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4 
$50,920
New 2026 GMC Canyon Elevation 
$54,000
New 2026 GMC Canyon AT4 
$61,214
New 2026 GMC Canyon Denali 
$72,079
New 2026 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4 
$90,780
New 2026 GMC Sierra 2500 Denali 
$102,434
New 2026 GMC Yukon XL Denali -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Dark Walnut
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 0422D
- VIN
- 1GTPUAEK5RZ178952
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Den Kelly Chevrolet GMCReviews
Den Kelly Chevrolet GMC review
The service department has been fantastic. I bought my car in 2009 and have never had any complaints or concerns. Any correspondence and work performed on my vehicle has been professional and completed in a timely manner.
2024 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I love it the look the interior mine is a red one and it looks so good and it’s my baby and it runs so good and the technology is off the chain
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Metallic
- Int. color
- After Dark
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- BE0624
- VIN
- 1GKENNRS9SJ191458
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
NYE ChevroletReviews
NYE Chevrolet review
I had a nice conversation today with Dan about a Chevrolet Trailblazer and he was wonderful to deal with. I feel very comfortable dealing with Dan to move forward with my search for a new vehicle.
2025 GMC Acadia review
I saw this car driving by the dealership and automatically was drawn to it because of its color. GMC calls it brown but one print out called it crystal metallic purple. It changes colors depending on the weather. I love the handling, the dash and all the bells and whistles! My grandchildren love how much room that it has!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- D3662A
- VIN
- 1GKS2GRD3SR300751
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LeadCar GMC Utica -
$42,461
Est. $739/mo Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Utica
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Volcanic Red Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 5.3L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- D115203A
- VIN
- 3GTUUDED4RG115203
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of UticaReviews
Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Utica review
I went to CDJR of Utica where I met Jarred Kraszewski. We told him I was interested in a Jeep I saw online. Jarred took a copy of my license and had the vehicle ready to drive in seconds. He was polite and extremely friendly. CDJR took in my old car on a trade which shocked me. We ran numbers and well they got me near my payment. I would recommend CDJR of Utica and Jae to everyone. They make you feel like family. Like you actually mean something to them that I wasn’t just another deal.
2024 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Great truck to own. The 2023 GMC Sierra Denali with the 6.2L engine delivers excellent power, smooth performance, and a refined driving experience. The ride quality, interior comfort, and overall build quality are outstanding. I have had no issues whatsoever, and it has been a reliable, enjoyable vehicle from day one. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a premium full-size truck.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Quicksilver Metallic
- Int. color
- Dark Ash
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.0L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- CC3869A
- VIN
- 1GT02REG4GZ100502
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
NYE Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
NYE Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I purchased a 2021 Durango..and my experience was awesome...I would highly recommend this dealership!! My salesperson was Jake ...very knowledgeable about my Durango and very pleasant and not high pressured like I've experienced in the past at other dealerships..
2016 GMC Sierra 2500 review
I've owned my truck for nine years now it is never once let me down. I'm about to put my first set a tires on it and brakes other than that I don't plan on getting rid of it it's never let me down and after reading all the other reviews it makes me realize they don't make them like they used to as they used too!
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$34,150
Est. $594/mo Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Utica
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pacific Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Kalahari Accents
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 5.3L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- D207055A
- VIN
- 1GTP9EEDXLZ207055
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of UticaReviews
Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Utica review
My 2022 Maxima got totalled and I was heartbroken. Not only did CDJR Utica have the exact same make, model, and color but I even got it with less mile. I worked the deal with Tyler Coughlin and was thouroughly impressed by both his commitment and his responsiveness. I live 2.5 hours away so everything had to be done remotely. He helped me through every step of the process and had everything in place to get me in and out quickly when I came to pick up the car. He answered the phone anytime i called, kept in touch through text messages and emails and made this a great experience. His personality was upbeat, kind, and caring. He was a pleasure to work with and I would buy a car from him again in the future. His work ethic and friendly demeanor are traits to be looked up to. Thank you Tyler and CDJR Utica for making this a great experience.
2020 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I bought my 2020 with 36k miles a couple of years ago and I now have 60k miles of trouble free very enjoyable driving. It was expensive, but worth every penny. The ride is so quiet and comfortable my wife and I prefer traveling in it instead of our 2018 Acura MDX which we also love. The 5.3 V8 has plenty of power and towing ability. The multi-function tail gate is genius, I hope to never be without one again. We so enjoy all the bells and whistles, especially the wireless phone charger. So glad I bought this truck!
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- Ext. color
- Carbon Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- D3644A
- VIN
- 1GTU9DED7LZ285967
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
LeadCar GMC Utica review
I Purchased my vehicle over the phone and they delivered to my house and picked up my trade in vehicle very easy for someone working full time
2020 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I purchased pre-owned 2020 1500 SLT in February of this year. The truck rides comfortable and has plenty of room front and rear. My and I both enjoy it. My only drawback is the turn radius (lock to lock). It lacks compared to my wife's 2018 Yukon SLT, or the 2016 Ram I traded in. Have to many times maneuver twice to park it going forward or reverse. Otherwise happy with our purchase.
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$22,978
Est. $400/mo West Herr Chevrolet of East Syracuse
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- CST261117A
- VIN
- 3GKALVEG3PL116700
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
West Herr Chevrolet of East SyracuseReviews
West Herr Chevrolet of East Syracuse review
You want great service you come to West-Herr of East Syracuse, that is the old East Syracuse Chevrolet. EJ, great job great manager pleasure to do business with you again.
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- Ext. color
- Cardinal Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- 0374D
- VIN
- 1GTUUAED0RZ155485
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Den Kelly Chevrolet GMCReviews
Den Kelly Chevrolet GMC review
Treated us very well. Knows our likes and dislikes. Has been a loyal dealer for us for over 35 years.
2024 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Recently purchased a 2024 CPO Sierra Denali with the 3.0 Duramax. Fuel mileage on the highway nears 30 mpg. Super smooth ride with a super entertainment system. Best vehicle I have owned.
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- D3587A
- VIN
- 3GTU9DED9KG105516
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
LeadCar GMC Utica review
Excellent buying experience. Bruce was great to deal with. Easy scheduling of service... service itself was handled in a prompt and efficient manner with pleasant waiting facilities.
2019 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I purchased a new 2019 SLT with the X1 package. It has the Red Quartz Tintcoat paint. I usually never leave reviews, but honestly this is the most comfortable, nicest loking truck I've owned , and I've ownwd alot of them. The only issues I've had was the brake software was flawed, took it to the dealer on recall and they installed a new software patch, Other then that I love the styling, performance and the interior is very nice. No regrets
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- G4421B
- VIN
- 1GTUUCED6SZ332364
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
2025 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Let me start by saying I have the AT4 model with the Duramax 3.0L diesel. I had a 2024 Elevation with the 5.3L V-8 that I bought to pull my 22’ camper. While the Elevation pulled my camper fine it drank the gas like it was on a binge. And with a 26 gallon gas tank it seemed I was filling up every couple of hours. After one trip to Nova Scotia I knew something had to change. I pulled my camper out west to Yellowstone and back through Arizona. It pulled like a champ and fillups were a lot more manageable. Even driving the speed limit out west I still got four to five mpg better than with the gasser. I liked the Elevation but I love the AT4. Way nicer ride and great handling. I get 30 per gallon of diesel on the highway if I drive the speed limit but I got it to tow with. I added a Titian replacement fuel tank so I have 43 gallons instead of the 26 it came with.
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$73,165
Est. $1,273/mo Driver's Village
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- Ext. color
- White Frost Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Alpine Umber
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V8 32V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- B246T2037
- VIN
- 1GT49YEY9RF222762
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Driver's VillageReviews
Driver's Village review
Aiden from Mitsubishi is the right person for the job. Our transaction has never been easier and faster hes great and im grateful thank you🙏
2024 GMC Sierra 3500 review
This review is for a two week old truck. I have been trying to get a 3500HD AT4, gas engine, 8 foot bed, 5th wheel prep, in blue for over a year (almost 2). My dealer finally received an allocation and I was off for the build!! However, when my build order was sent to me the color had defaulted to black (blue was discontinued for 2024) and the only way to change it was to cancel and start over.....so black it is!! The truck is gorgeous and much larger than I thought! I am pleased with both exterior styling and the 2024 interior refesh. My only complaint is the seats, they are a bit firm.....still comfy....but firm. The GM sunroof is small, so small I passed on the option. Mechanically this truck is a pretty sound design. Another 50hp for the 6.6L gas engine would be nice, but 401hp is pretty decent. A PTO offering in the up level trims would be nice, as would a larger/dual fuel tank option is needed (GM is the only one that doesn't offer one), and a factory level in the front, and while I am dreaming a front locking differential. GM could up thier paint game, when approaching 90k I expect better paint. Value wise it is as good if not better than the rest of the over priced trucks on the market. Rumor is 20K per unit on average goes to the UAW pension, that's why your 50k truck costs 70k. In closing I have zero regrets other than the color, but I needed it immediately so here I am.
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- D186S2751
- VIN
- 1GKS2CKJ1JR171335
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Driver's VillageReviews
Driver's Village review
Amazing Dealership! Thomas Quinn is my Hero! I live in Dallas and the dealership is in Cicero, NY. But they made my experience so good I never was worried about not being there for the purchase.
2018 GMC Yukon review
The Yukon checked all of my needs, I have plenty of room for my children and my Great Danes. I enjoy driving the Yukon and how it handles, overall love this vehicle!
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Alpine Umber
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- Q23673436
- VIN
- 1GKS2EKL0PR553099
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Driver's VillageReviews
Driver's Village review
Had roadside assistance bring car in for what I assumed was a warranty related issue since the car has only 12k miles but it ended up being a damaged radiator. Cam was incredibly helpful in setting me up with a rental for the night and the service tech who started the repair late Thursday came in on his day off to finish the repair. I wasn?t thrilled with such a bill on a relatively new car, but Cam?s exemplary service resulted in a great service experience.
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- G4062C
- VIN
- 3GKALTEVXLL230769
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LeadCar GMC UticaReviews
2020 GMC Terrain review
I have had this car 5 years 90000 km. No problems so far, it has been exceptionally good. The only money I have spent is gas and oil changes. I. Would buy another one
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 6778DB
- VIN
- 1GTRUCED8PZ245093
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Den Kelly Chevrolet GMCReviews
Den Kelly Chevrolet GMC review
I purchased a New 2014 Chevy Silverado through Den Kelly GMC. The buying experience was pleasureable. When returning for service I did not experience any high pressure sales tactics or upselling you see from other dealerships.
2023 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I own a 2023 Sierra 1500 Elevation equipped with the 2.7L TurboMax, and it’s been outstanding. It currently has 23,000 flawless miles. I’ll admit, I was skeptical of the 2.7 at first, but I jumped in feet-first and have never looked back. Living in Colorado, I regularly tow a 5,000-pound travel trailer through the Rockies with zero performance issues. The truck pulls confidently, handles grades with ease, and still delivers impressive fuel economy—23–24 mpg on the highway and about 18 mpg in town. I couldn’t be happier with this setup. If there is a negative to mention, that would be that after three years of ownership, the black wheels havent grown on me, and Im beginning to hate em. :) Lastly, the mpg while towing drops to 9mpg which is similar to that of a V8. All said, its been a great truck. :)
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- Ext. color
- Titanium Rush Metallic
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.3L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- F40875A
- VIN
- 1GKS2GKD3PR564814
Dealer
Don's FordReviews
Don's Ford review
Good experience. See Mr. Dave. I would trade again. Everything went well. Mr. Dave was pleasant and new his cars.See Mr Dave for the best deal. Great line up of used cars.
2023 GMC Yukon XL review
Ordered a 2023 GMC Yukon XL Denali Diesel 4 wheel drive in March of 2023. Took GM 5 months to pick up the order even though I adjusted a few minor options that were on constraint to have the order picked up (these were items I could purchase the parts and have the dealer install such as illuminated GMC emblem, Denali door sills, illuminated GMC cargo sill, cross rails for roof carrier). I wanted the diesel for the mileage and longevity. I am very satisfied with everything with the vehicle so far. Ordered the 20 inch rims/tires for a better ride. The ride quality is remarkable, so smooth. I drive a combination city/rural each day and I average 25 or more MPG. I have 9000 miles on it so far, and not one single issue with it. It is smooth, quiet, and and packed with technology. Goes through the snow with no problem. I have had 7 Suburbans, Yukon XL's and Escalades and in the past, full size Cadillac Broughams, and this is the best riding vehicle out of all of them. I am very satisfied. The only issue is the price has gone through the roof to purchase new. The Suburban and Yukon XL used to be more affordable new. My previous 2015 GMC Yukon XL Denali has an engine issue (camshaft issue even though the oil was changed at the dealer every 3K miles) at 165K miles and I had to trade it in quickly, so the dealer took it on trade when I ordered the 2023, and they wholesaled it. I was not going to buy another one with the 6.2 liter engine again.I really hope the diesel will go for many miles and years, and so far this vehicle has had no problems what so ever. Very glad I made the decision to try it again with the diesel engine this time. If the diesel was not available I would not have bought another GM full size SUV. Classic Painesville Ohio is the best to work with for sales, service and parts. They kept me posted throughout the purchase process and were very fair with the amount for the trade in and purchase price for the new vehicle.
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$55,265
Est. $961/mo Jim Schmidt Chevrolet of Delphos
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- Ext. color
- White Frost Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- D26086
- VIN
- 1GKS2JKL0PR435708
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Jim Schmidt Chevrolet of DelphosReviews
Jim Schmidt Chevrolet of Delphos review
Zach and the staff were accommodating and on time. I text the day before on a vehicle and it was ready for me to test drive at the exact scheduled time. Very helpful and easy to work with, no back and forth bidding war. Thank you again Zach for making the process a smooth and easy process. Would recommend anyone to go there to buy a vehicle new or used.
2023 GMC Yukon XL review
I love my car. I love the way it handles, and the confidence I have in it when I’m on the road. The room in it is fantastic. All the room I need for when we travel.
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 290818
- VIN
- 1GKS2CKJ9LR290818
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Auto First LLCReviews
Auto First LLC review
I have bought a Mercedes-Benz GLK350. Lou was very helpful and answered all questions I have had. He stayed in communications with me though out the process. He got me a good rate from the bank and included a 2 year extended warranty. Lou has given me a call a month later to see how everything with the car was. Lou gave me a great value for my car. In addition, Auto First has an excellent service department. All employees are friendly. I did not have one issues just a Great experience.
2020 GMC Yukon review
Excellent and reliable, only thing buyers have to do is buy a AFM disabler that you can stick into OBD2 port to avoid lifter failure (longer story, nobody wants a V8 to run in V4)