Used Ford cars for sale near Spinnerstown, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- P26250
- VIN
- 1FMCU9GNXSUB67528
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Paoli FordReviews
Paoli Ford review
Lex Mellon was the salesperson and she was wonderful. I understood everything about the car and purchase. I had purchased a car in 2014 and knew it would be a great choice. I trust them and Lex and would go back again.
2025 Ford Escape review
Overall the car is great. I bought the trailer towing model and the towing features work seamlessly with my light trailer. It has the power to easily pull the 2000 pound trailer I use. There are a couple fit and finish issues where the hood doesn't quite line up with the fender, but I am fussy about these things and other people might not even notice. I have the larger infotainment screen which has some positives. But almost all the controls go through the screen and my eyesight isn't the best so it is difficult to make selections while the vehicle is in motion. Also, the learning curve is rather steep and the paper owners manual is not much help. The A/C controls are all on the screen and hard to change while in motion.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- DARK SLATE CLOTH 40/CON/40
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3828
- VIN
- 1FTFW3LD7RFA08180
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- ANTIMATTER BLUE METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LEATHER
- Transmission
- SINGLE-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- DUAL EMOTOR-EXTND RANGE BAT
- Stock #
- FAU3977
- VIN
- 1FT6W1EV2PWG25235
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- STAR WHITE METALLIC TRI-COA
- Int. color
- EBONY UNIQUE CLOTH SEATS
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 1.5L ECOBOOST W/START-STOP
- Stock #
- FAU3867
- VIN
- 1FMCU9GNXPUA86245
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Escape review
For those of you that don't like the over reliance on the computer dash for things like the AC.. Ford did not start doing that till mid 2023.. when looking at 2023 models, look carefully at the dashboard. some have a smaller computer screen and the 2 knobs and buttons that regulate the AC. those are the ones you want.. they also are $4-5K cheaper than the models that have the larger screens and no physical AC buttons so win-win.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- BLACK SPORT 40/CONSOLE/40
- Transmission
- ELEC TEN-SPEED AUTO W/TOW M
- Engine
- 5.0L V8 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3862
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E5XPKF08669
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford F-150 review
2023 F150 Lariat. Just bought this used so these are my first impressions. So far very happy with the truck. Comfortable and handles nicely. V-6 seems very responsive. My issues at this point are related to my ability to setup this truck the way I want it. I am lucky that it came with the feature for automatic shutoff every time you stop for a red light already permanently removed. I would hate that feature if it had it. There is a lot of other features I would just as soon not have that I have had varying levels of success in turning off. Automatic lane keeping is one. While I was able to turn it off in the settings, it still interferes with setting cruise control. When I try to turn cruise control on it sets lane keeping anyway and I have to turn it off with another button press, while showing a stupid truck icon on the dash instead of my speed. I have to press an OK button to turn lane keeping off, then it will set the cruise control. All these button presses and having to look at the dash while doing this are very distracting and increases the time I'm not looking at the road, actually making the truck less safe. You really have to pick your time for setting cruise control. The automatic braking is another dangerous feature in my view. Thankfully I was able to turn that one off. The truck will beep 2 times if the engine is running and you get out, like to check your mailbox. It is irritating at best, not just for me, but for my neighbors, especially early in the morning or late at night. There is no mute button on the steering wheel for the radio, that I can find at least. I had this feature on other trucks and found it very helpful. Reverse brake assist makes no sense to me at all. I turned it off, but it is another one that puts a warning message on the dash to tell me that. I find the warning messages for the features I have turned off distracting and useless. These are my first impressions, there will probably be more later.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- STAR WHITE MET TRI-COAT
- Int. color
- ONYX LEATHER-TRIM SEATS
- Transmission
- 10SPD AUTO TRANS W/SLCTSHFT
- Engine
- 3.5L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3975
- VIN
- 1FMJK2A80PEA41400
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Expedition review
This car checks all of the boxes for a full size SUV. Its towing capacity is tops for all SUV’s! It seats seven adults comfortably and fuel economy is the best for full size SUV’s. GREAT VEHICLE!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- DARK SLATE CLOTH 40/CON/40
- Transmission
- SINGLE-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 98KWH STD BAT
- Stock #
- FAU3887
- VIN
- 1FTVW3LK8RWG32645
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2024 Ford F-150 review
Missed my 2016 F150 which I sold, was waiting for prices to come down to get back into one. 2024 clearance was heavily discounted, and I love it. 2.7 twin turbo still delivers, comfort is amazing and cabin is quiet. Love all the new technology and screen.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LTHR TRIM
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3886
- VIN
- 1FTFW5LD2RFB57723
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- BLACK SPORT 40/CONSOLE/40
- Transmission
- ELEC TEN-SPEED AUTO W/TOW M
- Engine
- 5.0L V8 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3967
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E52PFC70082
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
Bergey's Ford review
What an absolutely fantastic experience! This was my first time purchasing a car entirely from another state, and I honestly could not have asked for a better experience. From beginning to end, everyone involved was attentive, proactive, professional, and genuinely committed to making the entire process as smooth and comfortable as possible. A very special thank-you goes to Tony. He was always extremely courteous, patient, and responsive. No matter how many questions we had, he never failed to answer us, provide the information we needed, or make himself available. His professionalism and personal attention gave us complete confidence throughout the entire purchase. I also want to recognize Tony’s manager, Vince, Laura, and the entire team. Every person we dealt with was simply amazing and wonderful! I absolutely loved the entire experience and could not be happier with my purchase. Buying a vehicle remotely could have been stressful, but this team made it easy, transparent, and truly enjoyable. I wholeheartedly recommend this dealership and everyone who works there. They went above and beyond in every possible way. Thank you, Tony, Vince, Laura, and the entire team, for making this such an incredible and memorable experience! Edson Luque
2023 Ford F-150 review
THIS TRUCK IS QUIET, POWERFUL HAS SPACIOUS REAR SEATING, LOTS OF STORAGE AND ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES YOU NEED PLUS A WONDERFUL MUSIC SOUND SYSTEM. THE BLUE CRUISE IS FANTASTIC
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- SPACE WHITE METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLK PERFORATED ACTIVEX
- Transmission
- SINGLE-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 91KWH USABLE EXT BATTERY
- Stock #
- FAU3987
- VIN
- 3FMTK3SU1PMA65614
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
My first EV car. Not sure if I love this car or the fact that it is an EV. What makes this a bit different from a Tesla is that it still reminds you of a regular car in terms of gear shifting controls and displays. My car is a premium trim, dual motor and long range battery extension, so if you get a lower trim, the experience might be slightly different.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- SHADOW BLACK
- Int. color
- PRFM GRAY ACTIVEX SEAT MTRL
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- SINGLE-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- PRFM/91KWH USABLE EXT BTTRY
- Stock #
- FAU3949
- VIN
- 3FMTK4SX2PMA63872
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
i purchased my first 2023 Mach premium rwd in 2026. it was used with 20,000 miles, great condition. live in Texas,(Houston). it drives smooth with great acceleration. have charging station at home, i have had it for 2 weeks and i am in love. I refused extended warranty with dealer but plan on purchasing thru granger warranty
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- VAPOR BLUE METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLK PERFORATED ACTIVEX
- Transmission
- SINGLE-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 91KWH USABLE EXT BATTERY
- Stock #
- FAU3989
- VIN
- 3FMTK3SU2PMA57148
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
I have owned it for 3 months now and gone 10,000 miles. I have driven it in Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and Ontario. I have easily found charging stations and just line it up with lunch or dinner. Car has a few quirks but it is to be expected for the first EV model. Car rides beautifully and Blue Cruise is awesome (had a few times where it would make me keep the hands on the wheel when I didn't think it should). I haven't had range anxiety because most Targets, Meijers and Walmarts have fast charging. Almost all dealerships do as well. Ford is also sending a free Tesla converter which will just add to the availability of charging stations. My only drawbacks on the car so far is the back windshield is hard to keep clean and the windshield wiper is too small. I also wish the car recorded with all the cameras it has on it like the Teslas. Lastly, the plastic on the B Pillars look crazy with the oils from people's hands. Really hard to clean.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LTHR TRIM
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3935
- VIN
- 1FTFW5LD4RFB49820
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
Bergey's Ford review
We had a great experience at Bergey’s! We drove thru their lot the night before our purchase date and saw the perfect car for me-a “Baby Bronco” ( Bronco Sport Outerbanks). We went back the next day and inquired about the Bronco we had seen. Our salesman, Andrew Weed, was so knowledgeable, and very honest and do pleasant! After going thru the business end of purchasing (which was not bad at all) we signed on the dotted line and left with our little beauty! If you are looking to purchase a car or truck we recommend Bergey’s for their honesty and helpfulness during the purchase. The Bronco was detailed to perfection! I love our new car!!! Carol Wilmot
2024 Ford F-150 review
My Raptor experience has been excellent. Very comfortable, handles fantastic. Great pedal response. Towing ability has been very responsive handlles great during Towing. Have not had a single problem. Only drawback might be price tag.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LTHR TRIM
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3976
- VIN
- 1FTFW3LDXRFA05841
Features
- Entertainment
- Premium Sound System
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- CARBONIZED GRAY METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK SPORT 40/CONSOLE/40
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3998
- VIN
- 1FTFW3LD2RFB23642
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LTHR TRIM
- Transmission
- ELEC TEN-SPEED AUTO TRANS
- Engine
- 5.0L V8 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3944
- VIN
- 1FTFW5L52RFB27632
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AVALANCHE
- Int. color
- BLACK LTHR TRIM BUCKET SEAT
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3845
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ED9PFB82282
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK SPORT 40/CONSOLE/40
- Transmission
- ELEC TEN-SPEED AUTO W/TOW M
- Engine
- 2.7L V6 ECOBOOST
- Stock #
- FAU3782
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EP8PKF10983
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- STAR WHITE METALLIC TRI-COA
- Int. color
- EBONY LEATHER TRIM SEATS
- Transmission
- ECVT TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.5L I-VCT ATK I-4 HYB ENG
- Stock #
- FAU3846
- VIN
- 1FMCU0E19PUB25306
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2023 Ford Escape review
Good on gas and a comfortable ride. Drive it to West Virginia and back home no problem. I like it a lot definitely recommend it for people who travel for work and schoool
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- EBONY ACTIVEX SEAT MTRL
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.3L ECOBOOST I-4 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3937
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DHXPGB52141
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
Bergey's Ford review
Walter Estuardo Winter-Hor was absolutely amazing to work with when purchasing my 2008 Ford F-450! He was kind, helpful, and willing to go above and beyond to provide outstanding customer service. I truly appreciated his care and dedication throughout the process. I highly recommend Walter to anyone looking to purchase a vehicle. Go see him—you’ll be glad you did!
2023 Ford Explorer review
I have a 2023 Ford Explorer Platinum, and I purchased it 7 months ago; this vehicle looks brand new and it is extremely comfortable, stylish, and reliable. I am so glad I purchased this vehicle. I will be sure to remain on top of the recommended maintenance schedule through authorized Ford Service Departments. Make sure you use a sun blocker to keep direct sunlight off of your dashboard when parked, which in some extreme cases, can make the leather warp or buckle; this is not just associated with Ford, but all automobile manufacturers that have real leather dashboards ~ especially when in super warm climates.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK INT W/BLACK LTHR TRIM
- Transmission
- HYBRID ELEC 10-SPD AUTO TRA
- Engine
- 3.5L POWERBOOST FULL HYBRID
- Stock #
- FAU3884
- VIN
- 1FTFW5LD0RFB45019
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2024 Ford F-150 review
Overall, I love my 2024 STX 4x4 Supercrew. It's comfortable, reliable, and gets great gas mileage with the 2.7 ecoboost. I had one small repair done under warranty that took less than 3 hours and I have over 13k miles on it. My only mild complaints are that the ride could be more forgiving over bumpy pavement and that the turning radius was better.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- ERUPTION GREEN METALLIC
- Int. color
- VINYL GRAY/BLACK SEATS
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.7L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU4000
- VIN
- 1FMEE5DP1PLB83148
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Remote Start
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
Bergey's Ford review
Excellent! Knowledgeable! Relaxed! Professional! Courteous! Patient! Trusted! Respectful! Competent! Available! Responsive! Reasonable! Timely! Efficient! Overall great experience!
2023 Ford Bronco review
I bought a brandnew 2023 Ford Bronco Black Diamond 2.7L with Sasquatch packaje in November 2024, there are no complains up to now, it runs better than I expected and is very comfortable inside. Acceleration is also better than expected in spite of 35 inches factory tires, I love it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- DARK MATTER GRAY METALLIC
- Int. color
- ONYX LEATHER-TRIM SEATS
- Transmission
- 10SPD AUTO TRANS W/SLCTSHFT
- Engine
- 3.5L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3991
- VIN
- 1FMJU2A86PEA41492
Dealer
Bergey's Ford -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- INGOT SILVER METALLIC
- Int. color
- EBONY BLK PERF LTH-TRM SEAT
- Transmission
- 6-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L TI-VCT V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3928
- VIN
- 1FM5K8F86JGB33233
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
Bergey's Ford review
I had a great experience purchasing my car from this dealership! The staff was friendly, professional, and very helpful throughout the entire process. Everything was smooth, transparent, and stress-free, with no pressure at all. I’m very happy with my purchase and highly recommend this dealership!
2018 Ford Explorer review
This is my fourth Explorer. I decided in 2018 to order the top-of-the-line Platinum. This vehicle has all the bells and whistles for a person that wants the luxury of one of Fords top models. It has Platinum leather seats that are very comfortable. If you can find today, buy it. It has the 3.5L V6 that has great power on acceleration. You can only buy a V6 now on the 2025 Explorer ST which is a 3.0L. The cost is around $60,000 Loaded.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK
- Int. color
- MED LT STONE LTHR-TRIM SEAT
- Transmission
- 6-SPD AUTO TRANS W/SLCTSHFT
- Engine
- 2.0L ECOBOOST ENGINE
- Stock #
- FAU3972
- VIN
- 1FMCU9J94KUB92629
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
Dealer
Bergey's FordReviews
2019 Ford Escape review
I Loved my 2019 Ford Escape! It was my third Escape, as I previously owned a 2005, and a 2011! Sadly, it was my last as FORD's new version of the Escape is AWFUL! I NEVER had one issue with my 2019, and I drove over 94,000 miles over the 6 1/2 Years that I owned it! However, the resale value SUCKS! I know it's just the game they play at the dealers, but it's an ugly game where the consumer always loses! But - it's only money,,, and you can't take it with you!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29263663
- VIN
- 1FMJK2A85REA28564
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax TurnersvilleReviews
CarMax Turnersville review
EASY LAID BACK ATMOSPHERE, Tyler was smooth ,humorous and attentive to details. Everything laid out easy to understand, selection of JEEPS small but everyone was a buy, just pick your price range. I had looked online at their vehicles so that I knew to compare each against the other . the test drive offered me my decision. The finance rate was higher than anticipated, so have a plan B, they give you 3 days to get a better rate and come back and pay it off. I bought an extended 150k bumper to bumper warranty for piece of mind due to the miles I drive-$35 a month, worth it!
2024 Ford Expedition Max review
Previous minivan owner we didn’t realize we had out grown our minivan till we realized the amount of space in our new truck. We have 4 active kids from 5-15 that are in multiple sports. We travel a fair amount both to the airport and on road trips. So our new vehicle needed to get all of us and luggage wherever we’re going. So far this is doing it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Powerstroke 6.7L V-8 diesel direct injection, intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- STKD38969
- VIN
- 1FT8W4DT9MED38969
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
2021 Ford F-450 review
I bought the Platinum edition, I love this truck. Smooth riding, lots of extra features. Seems bigger than the 2017 F350, but they are the same size.