Used Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon for sale near Springport, MI
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$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H7844
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR67SW580402
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Outstanding working with Neida. Took care of all the details very quickly! Answered all my questions and made for a pleasant buying experience!
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$30,999
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Anvil Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- H4289
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR62SW602614
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Garrett Miller has gone the extra mile to help me and my family and friends. We have purchased several vehicles from him and he assisted us in some warranty work. He has listened carefully to our needs, diligently offered options, and has ultimately offered solutions that have met our needs. He is VERY knowledgeable, very friendly, and very helpful.
2025 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
My Jeep journey started with Patriot, followed by Cherokee, and recent upgrade to Wrangler. Each one had it's advantages over the others. Most notable changes are in electronics and interior design. Embedded computer with focus on non-stop entertainment is a distraction for a vehicle used in exploring the nature. The computer should not wake up when you open any door to load or unload things. Doors removal option is way less important than towing capability or surrounding sensors that help with parking, backing out of the garage, or changing lanes in heavy traffic. Wranglers gas cap and the hood should come locked by default. Phone pocket is too narrow for Samsung and there is no simple way to mount it elsewhere. Window control should be on the doors instead of crowded dashboard. Noise in Wrangler is higher than other two models I owned in the past.
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$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H4288
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR67SW584028
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I live more than four hours away from the dealer. We were able to do the entire deal via email/phone/text. They delivered the van and paperwork to my house. I test drove the van, then finished the paperwork in my dining room. It was a very smooth and low-stress process. Everyone I interfaced with was courteous, professional, and helpful. The van was delivered as promised, and the whole experience was flawless. Also, the price was the best I could find in a 500 mile radius from where I live.
2025 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
This is my first jeep in years, and even though the 4xe gets a bad reputation, it has been great so far. It has tons of power, gives the full jeep experience, and we have barely spent any money on gas - which has been great with the way prices are right now.
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$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H7949
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR64SW602551
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H4321
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR63SW584012
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Three years ago I bought my Jeep from Bill Been, at Hinkle auto sales. I decided it was time for a new vehicle. I went to other dealerships and no one came close to the offer they made me to buy my jeep. I was shocked and very pleased with the offer
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$31,996
Est. $578/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H4317
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR64SW579563
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I bought a car online from Logan . He did a outstanding job representing me in the buying process . He did a detailed video of the condition of the car including the running of the car . He follow-thru with all paperwork and made sure the car was loaded by the shipper . Logan is the reason I made the purchase and I am a satisfied customer .
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$32,996
Est. $596/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Anvil Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H7890
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR61SW602782
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- H7900
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR69SW584029
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
$30,996
Est. $560/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- H7899
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR65SW580401
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
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Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
$28,996
Est. $524/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Sarge Green Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Cloth
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Gas/Electric I-4 2.0 L/122
- Stock #
- Q8004
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR68RW168578
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
Bought my 2024 used with 13k miles on it. Maybe I'm old school due to prior life with a 97 TJ and and 01 XJ but this car is fantastic to drive and very luxurious. Perhaps not as tech heavy as other SUVs, but it does everything I could hope for, and has been fun for road driving and light off roading.
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$28,495
Est. $515/mo Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- Q8011
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR63RW119062
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Henkel Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
The JL exceeded my expectations. In the past Wranglers were clunky and didn't really feel like they were put together too well. My son had a JK and it was a huge advance forward. So I decided to buy the JL and I think it was another huge leap forward. I have fully loaded Ram 2500 but I find myself taking the Jeep most of the time. Okay part of that is trying to park a long bed crew cab, But I do enjoy driving the Jeep and have taken it across country a couple of times. After a 122,000 miles I still love it.
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- P2968
- VIN
- 1C4JJXR69PW705744
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Toyota of Fox LakeReviews
Toyota of Fox Lake review
Justin was very knowledgeable and personable. He did a great job explaining the entire process of purchasing my CR-V. I'm genuinely pleased with my whole experience!
2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
Carlos from Garavel provided professional and decent service for us to help us finally pick correct Wrangler. The price is also good compared to other dealers. He is patient and knowledgeable. Highly recommend.
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$32,861
Est. $594/mo Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake Villa
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- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- LV833
- VIN
- 1C4JJXR68PW513912
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake VillaReviews
Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake Villa review
I was skeptical at first buying a car sight unseen, however josh and marko addressed my concerns from the beginning and made it by far the easiest car transactions I have had. They facetimed me around the car and did not just rush through it, they took their time pointing out any blemish and rock chip to make sure I felt assured knowing what I was buying. They truly are great people to work with, they had me financed at an excellent rate and even took my trade in from florida. Certainly will be doing business with them again and recommending! A+ Team
2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
Shannon at Tyler’s in Niles was great. Every time I go there it’s a pleasant time. She is the best sales person and I will only buy from her. She makes the car buying experience easy and enjoyable.
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$32,989
Est. $596/mo Golling Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Hydro Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- NP260390
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR67SW514982
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Golling Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Golling Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
No appointment needed and the techs will look at your car in line to tell you how long and when to expect to get it back
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- Y6401
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR64RW190870
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Byron Center MotorsReviews
2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
11,000 miles never a issue still drives like brand new . Awesome off roading and really not bad on the freeway at speeds up to 90mph
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$31,500
Est. $569/mo Elizabeth Lake Auto Sales LLC
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 8-Spd
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- B1242
- VIN
- 1C4JJXR61PW586362
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Elizabeth Lake Auto Sales LLCReviews
2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
Approaching 25,000 miles and we haven’t had any issues. I actually enjoy choosing whether to run on electric or gas based on what my journey is. If you just put it in hybrid mode, you’re not utilizing the efficiency of the engine. My advice, think about your journey. If I’m jumping on the highway to then head into the city, I run it on gas on the highway then switch to all electric in the city -no point wasting the electric with highway driving! Then I use up the last of my electric when google tells me I’m X miles from home when I still have X miles of electric remaining to use it all up. When we just do local drives less than 25 miles (grocery, day care pick up etc.) we can literally run off electric only for days, even weeks. It just takes thinking about what your journey involves. Crawling traffic for a 5 mile slow down ahead, I’m on gas until I hit that traffic, then switch to electric. We’ve taken this Jeep (Willys) through plenty of winter storms with feet of snow and ice, never needed to use chains with its AWD or 4WD to choose from. Hopefully the great reliability continues.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- GO8474
- VIN
- 1C4RJXR63RW195266
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Grand Blanc MitsubishiReviews
Grand Blanc Mitsubishi review
The service department was attentive and professional. I was satisfied with the work done on my vehicle.
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$29,990
Est. $542/mo Allen Of Toledo Used Cars
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, premi
- Stock #
- PT0472
- VIN
- 1C4JJXR69PW518150
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Allen Of Toledo Used CarsReviews
Allen Of Toledo Used Cars review
Great service and got me my dream car for such a good price! Great team
2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
The Jeep dealerships don't do body work on the vehicles. It has to be farmed out to a body shop....and this is across the board, not just this state.
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