Used Porsche cars for sale in Seal Beach, CA
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$75,554
Est. $1,407/mo Major Motor Cars
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.9L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, twin tu
- Stock #
- 26521
- VIN
- WP0AJ2A77PL102946
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Major Motor CarsReviews
Major Motor Cars review
Absolutely the best overall buying experience. Jason Yorker is not a "used car sales," rather a professional automotive concierge. He located that exact vehicle I was looking for, was patient with my questions, but especially negotiated a more than reasonable and fare offer. I can't say enough positive things about my experience from Rob Hassan (General Manager) to Jason Yorker. They all provided an excellent buying experience and attention to detail. From one who hates buying cars, these guys are outstanding and far exceeded my expectations.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Quartzite Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Mojave Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, VarioCam Plus variable valve cont
- Stock #
- KDA00944T
- VIN
- WP1AA2AY5KDA00944
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Wondries ToyotaReviews
2019 Porsche Cayenne review
This is a great all around SUV. It's quick and quiet and gets decent gas mileage. I bought a 2019 Cayenne S in the summer of 2025 with low miles. 440 horsepower and adjustable suspension make this a great road car. I have the Carfax and it shows just routine maintenance. I've had two oil changes and 4 tires and that's all it's needed. It now has 68k miles. Look for an independent shop for repairs and maintenance and you'll love it
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.0L I4 16V DOHC
- Stock #
- 18719
- VIN
- WP0AB2947LN450137
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$90,035
Est. $1,677/mo Beverly Hills Car Club
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 12V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 19801
- VIN
- WP0CA2996WS341049
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1998 Porsche 911 review
I have owned several 911s and this one, the 1998, is clearly the best. Beautiful to look at but a total dream to drive. Fast, great sound from the air-cooled engine. This is a car you can take to the store or the track, it does everything right. Starts instantly and you are ready to go. The suspension is tight, causing the road bumps to shake the entire car, but it is the price you pay for a super high performance car. The steering is precise and the brakes are unreal. Hit the brakes hard and you will stop in a heartbeat. I like the older saying "Porsche...Excellent is Expected". I can't think of a thing negative I could say about this car. I sometimes just go outside and just look at it, I love the way it looks.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 12V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 20091
- VIN
- WP0AA2995TS321037
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1996 Porsche 911 review
I have always wanted a 911 Targa. I've always been inspired by the airy glass canopy in a refined and reliable sports car like the 911. I have wanted one since it was introduced. The glass canopy allows the outdoors in and provides plenty of light when driving through Mt. passes and canyons. I have been wanting to drive the famed 993 911 as well. So this opportunity gave me the best of both worlds.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 20261
- VIN
- 000000091A0142761
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Just awesome 👌🏾 👏🏾 👍🏾 😍. It helped out alot. Much recommended if you are looking for a new whip. I enjoyed it alot
1980 Porsche 911 review
This is an affordable sports car that could last a lifetime, be fun to drive and appreciate in value too!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 16160
- VIN
- 000000092A0811554
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1980 Porsche 928 review
1980 Porsche 928 rebuilt mechanically. Drives like a Porsche race car. A true 39 year old classic that runs great and still turns heads! Needs some TLC on the interior to bring it to show quality.
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$49,266
Est. $918/mo Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VarioCam Plus variable v
- Stock #
- FA6861
- VIN
- WP1AA2AY8NDA06435
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Xavier, Sebastian, Aaron, and Nicole were all helpful and good to work with! Thank you!
2022 Porsche Cayenne review
Turbo GT. Hard to believe it drives as well as my 911 through the mountains. Ride is better than advertised with the lowered ride and stiffer suspension. PTO color is flawless. It does not drive around corners…it deletes them
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$72,585
Est. $1,352/mo Beverly Hills Car Club
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 12V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 20129
- VIN
- WP0CA2999WS340364
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1998 Porsche 911 review
This is my 5th Porsche in the past 20 plus years. I have owned new Porsches and old. This is the best one to date. Drives great, looks to kill and going up in value just sitting there.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Emerald Green Metallic
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 18217
- VIN
- 00000009116200506
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Nice to view these great vehicles. Thanks for letting me search. I'll visit more often
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$64,585
Est. $1,203/mo Beverly Hills Car Club
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Grand Prix White
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 24V DOHC
- Stock #
- 19719
- VIN
- WP0CB2964LS470518
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Communication from the dealership was prompt, even as the car was currently pending sale with another buyer.
1990 Porsche 911 review
its the most fun car I have own. am old school, I like the the old cars best, and the porsche is best for me. If you start looking for a sports car check out the porsche. all the 911 any year are great.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 24V DOHC
- Stock #
- 19630
- VIN
- WP0AB0961KS450785
Dealer
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$83,024
New 2026 Porsche Macan
$140,314
New 2026 Porsche Cayenne S
$132,264
New 2026 Porsche Cayenne S
$145,054
New 2026 Porsche Cayenne S
$143,914
New 2026 Porsche Cayenne S
$143,914
New 2026 Porsche Cayenne S
$135,762
New 2026 Porsche Macan Electric Turbo
$77,622
New 2026 Porsche Macan
$124,424
New 2026 Porsche Macan Electric GTS
$137,364
New 2026 Porsche Macan Electric Turbo
$88,152
New 2026 Porsche Macan
$82,392
New 2026 Porsche Macan -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Champagne
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 20103
- VIN
- 000000091A0143329
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- P12339
- VIN
- WP1AA2A51JLB12148
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Land Rover Mission ViejoReviews
Land Rover Mission Viejo review
We purchased a used car sight unseen from the internet. Chris gave us pictures of the minor cosmetic scratches prior to us committing to buy and confirmed vehicle was certified and in excellent condition otherwise. We flew in from out of town and were provided an Uber ride from the airport to the dealership. Service once there was 5 star. Very professional and personable staff. Only reason facilities got a 4 is because they were under construction... but temporary trailers and restrooms were well kept. Overall great experience!
2018 Porsche Macan review
2018 Macan S CPO .. I’ve owned a lot of cars/trucks over the years, BMW’s, Mercedes, Hondas, Chevy’s, Ford’s, Buicks, etc. and so far this Macan S brings the biggest smile .. stupid fast .. minimal road noise .. fabulous interior .. Bose surround sound .. great information systems .. a well thought out and built SUV .. no disappointments so far ….
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 12V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 19306
- VIN
- WP0AA2993WS321008
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1998 Porsche 911 review
This car does what you want it to do when you want to do it. No lag, just power and interior is what one expects from Porsche, no frills just ease of operation with everything at your fingertips. Waited too long to buy this Porsche.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19041
- VIN
- WP0EB0918GS160086
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1986 Porsche 911 review
Iconic car, which just get better with age, these cars are worth more money every year. The performance the style, Screams Sport car..... The 80'S Porsche will continue to be the legend of Porsche cars.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bitter Chocolate
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 19681
- VIN
- 00000009114103090
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1974 Porsche 911 review
sharp styling, hugs the road like Velcro, classic style. Very fun sports car. Nothing like a Porsche!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Irish Green
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 16214
- VIN
- 00000009111121687
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Arctic Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 18273
- VIN
- WP0AA29985S716137
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
It was fine. I had a question and got an answer. Here is four more words.
2005 Porsche 911 review
I purchased and held car for 4 years. After I purchased the car it needed many things, water pump failed, brake lines, alternator failed, motor mounts failed, cup holders snapped in all I spent about $15,000.00 on it in 4 years on a well cared for car with about 40k miles on it. It’s not cheap to keep up and I did not overpay for repairs at the dealer. It’s a great car however it’s going to cost you to keep it up properly. All the while you own it you will have fun when it’s not in the shop. Every time you hear a noise you wonder what is next and how much will it cost. This is a car for owners with disposable income, time, an extra car and a good local Porsche specialist.
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$17,041
Est. $317/mo Los Angeles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- AP05140
- VIN
- WP1AA2A53KLB05140
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Los Angeles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Los Angeles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
my service was great. My advisor was a great source of information and my experience was good thank you.
2019 Porsche Macan review
This Macan S model car has all of the bells and whistles: navigation, power everything, integrated phone, voice control, paddle shifters, heated and air conditioned seats, cruise control, leather, smart headlights that turn into curves, and rain sensing wipers. The car has the six cylinder turbo 348 HP engine with 414 lf-ft of torque. Very quick and responsive. The ride is smooth, and the car handles great. The only con is the sun visors are too short.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Copper Brown Metallic
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 18956
- VIN
- 00000009117203012
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 20157
- VIN
- 00000009115200450
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Light Ivory
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Manual
- Stock #
- 18715
- VIN
- 00000000351656000
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Light Ivory
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 19384
- VIN
- 00000000119100031
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Didn’t buy the car however communication was awesome And I look forward to making a purchase soon!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Grand Prix White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 20023
- VIN
- WP0EB0917JS171877
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1988 Porsche 911 review
I have owned Porsches continually over a 30 year period - 2 of them 930's. The early 80's Euro spec Turbos (I owned a 1981) were VERY tricky to drive, and the turbo came on with brutal suddeness. The later 87 - 89 Turbos are much more refined in terms of turbo boost, and engine management, yet JUST as much fun to drive. People suggest that the 89 is the best year because it had the G50 (5 speed ) transmission. I wholeheartedly disagree with this, the 1988 with Porsches' square cut geared, 4 speed, is the pure RACING transmission designed by Porsche to handle 550 HP. It is extremely robust, and basically bullet-proof unless they are abused... The 3.3 litre Turbo has TREMENDOUS torque especially for such a light car, so the extra gearing of the G50 is not necessary. As for the G50: its' only benefit was the first gear syncro whose ratio is way too low - making it almost silly to use. It is not nearly as strong as the 4 speed, which by the way, Porsche continued to use in their racing EVEN after the introduction of the G50 - that tells the whole story I think. The turbos - if you get one that has been taken care of, will provide you with years of reliable driving. All 3 of my former Porsche 911/930's I sold for more than I purchased them for. There are VERY few cars that, like a good 911/930 do more than just hold their value - especially if you can acquire a well taken care of rare model.
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$46,730
Est. $870/mo Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Papaya Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- FA6959
- VIN
- WP1AA2A56RLB11427
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Knight Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Enjoyed my experience here at this dealership. Came out with a brand new car! Anthony was extremely helpful and guided us to find the car we were looking for.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 19075
- VIN
- 00000000128043150
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$57,585
Est. $1,073/mo Beverly Hills Car Club
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L H6 24V DOHC
- Stock #
- 19424
- VIN
- WP0CB2964MS460847
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1991 Porsche 911 review
The 1991 Porsche 911 is a world known icon. With it's air-cooled engine and unique style it stands out in any crowd. Every drive is a thrilling and interesting experience.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Beige
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 14235
- VIN
- 00000000553540000
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1955 Porsche 356 review
Get noticed in this beautiful little cabriolet. Ultra-reliable, economical and handles like it's on rails!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19342
- VIN
- WP0EB0911HS161940
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1987 Porsche 911 review
Own this classic while the price is still affordable. The car to own if you want to invest in a car the the price will keep appreciating. It is the ca the is and will always be THE 911
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jet Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Bordeaux Red/Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
- Engine
- 3L H-6 direct injection, DOHC, VarioCam Plus variable valve cont
- Stock #
- UP4985A
- VIN
- WP0CB2A93LS262149
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Porsche BakersfieldReviews
2020 Porsche 911 review
I used to own this C4S and it caused me freak out multiple times if I would take to the train station to get to work the battery wouldn’t work most of the times I got it replaced but it just wouldn’t work. Performance is great though. I wouldn’t daily it would though that’s why I switched the 2022 BMW M850i it’s luxurious it has decent power sound great stock an is very reliable and also looks pretty good. Overall get it if you have 2 or more cars don’t if this will be the only one.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70196178
- VIN
- WP1AB2A51GLB53143
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax OxnardReviews
CarMax Oxnard review
Richard was AMAZING. The process was quick and efficient and I got the Exact Car that I wanted!!!! Loved the fact that I didn't have to HAGGLE over the price of the car or my trade-in!
2016 Porsche Macan review
I think most of people here have not driven a Macan 3.6 Turbo engine with 400+ HP. This car is amazing you can't compare this one with other lower Macan models. this is the one to have.. We owned several Porsches including Cayennes turboS. This is a compact daily driving machine with Lot's of power and is fully loaded. The turbos 3.6 cost over $100K after taxes for a reason , Please don't compare this model with other low built Porsches for middle class, this is a High End Vehicle for a reason ...maybe the same as compare the Boxer with a 911 Turbo S.