Used subcompact SUVs for sale near Plumstead, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jet Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- NV015775
- VIN
- 7MUCAABG5NV015775
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faulkner Toyota TrevoseReviews
Faulkner Toyota Trevose review
Five Stars – Exceptional Experience with Richie Lyons and Anthony Rocchi. I recently purchased my new 2026 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium from Faulkner Toyota, and I cannot say enough good things about my experience. From start to finish, Richie Lyons did a terrific job helping me navigate the entire purchase. His professionalism and trustworthiness were exceptional. He was completely honest, transparent, and incredibly knowledgeable about the vehicle, ensuring all of my questions were answered without any high-pressure sales tactics. When it came time for the paperwork, Anthony Rocchi in the finance department was equally amazing. He was exceptionally helpful and completely transparent throughout the financing of the truck. Anthony took the time to explain everything clearly, making a part of the car-buying process that is usually stressful feel straightforward and smooth. If you are in the market for a new vehicle, I highly recommend visiting Faulkner Toyota and asking for Richie and Anthony. They truly go above and beyond to deliver a top-notch car-buying experience! Give Richie a call: 215-929-1754 you will love the whole experience.
2022 Toyota Corolla Cross review
I LOVE my 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross. I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed a car more. It’s the perfect size for me. It has great visibility and I love the amenities like having parking sensors and navigation. It has mood lighting inside, auto brights which my previous car did not have. There are so many little things I love about this car. Also, Toyota came out with many “Easter eggs” with the Corolla Cross logo, which are always fun to find! The ride is comfortable. I’ve done a 14 hour drive to Colorado within the first year of owning the vehicle and it handled perfectly. It also snowed while we were there and we had no challenges navigating the mountains while in my FWD Corolla Cross. This was my first new car and I’m so impressed! Toyota has great reliability and I’m glad I chose the Corolla Cross as my first new car!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier White Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- LLU5074
- VIN
- WA1EECF35P1152333
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bergey's LincolnReviews
Bergey's Lincoln review
I bought a used Ram from Bergeys Lincoln in Lansdale. I was helped by Charles and Kyle. Great guys who made the experience fast and easy. They also gave me a great deal.
2023 Audi Q3 review
Very comfortable drive and ride, has all the top shelf features for comfort, technology, safety . Sturdy buttons, interior materials are high class. Can take 89/91 grade gasoline. City drive is 25mpg, highway is upto 32mpg. oil change intervals is 10000mile . Seats in the back recline by adjustment, making it comfortable in long drives. Recently had a 14hour highway drive- was feeling refreshed even at the end of the day. The highway drive at night was not fatiguing to the eyes, likely because the glass quality must be really good compared to other brands. Wish they had a hybrid version to get better mpg or even better, a plug in hybrid version would be welcome for the future. The trunk space is small and can fit only one international size suitcase.
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$26,980
Est. $488/mo Bergey's Lincoln
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- LLU5073
- VIN
- WA1DECF39R1144203
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bergey's LincolnReviews
Bergey's Lincoln review
I think they were as good as they could be within what they could control. We had to wait a some time for the title of the vehicle we were buying to arrive. In addition to that, we financed ourselves. We did get lectured for awhile about that, so beware. But they did let us buy the car. Unfortunately with the waiting of the title, my loan ended up being more than what I was purchasing the car for, and now we need to get the difference back. Other than that, it was okay.
2024 Audi Q3 review
I purchased the 2024 Audi Q3 pre-owned and it was in showroom condition. There was an initial issue with the front passenger side door lock but it was promptly repaired under warranty at the Audi Dealer. (I did not purchase it there.) Other than that, I love the ride and handling, the engine is a powerful sucker and amazes me how fast I can jump into moving traffic especially on the Interstate. German engineering is the best and this will definitely not be my last Audi. 5 stars all the way around. My only concern is the road noise, I expected an Audi to be more quiet, but I have gotten used to it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 53-54
- Fuel type
- Plug-In Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Plug-in Hybrid
- Stock #
- 70146435
- VIN
- KNDCR3LF5R5124754
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax NewarkReviews
CarMax Newark review
Brett was very friendly, knowledgeable and helpful. A true professional.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29174043
- VIN
- KL77LHE27RC171948
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax Cleveland EastReviews
CarMax Cleveland East review
This dealer ship is an awesome place to buy a car from. They work with you no matter what your credit and will get you into a car
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
I am absolutely thrilled with my new 2024 Chevrolet Trax. It is an amazing vehicle that has exceeded my expectations. I also want to highlight the exceptional service I received from Luis Avitia at AutoNation Chevrolet Amarillo; he was fantastic throughout the entire process, helping me secure a great price while making the purchase quick and seamless. I highly recommend both this vehicle and this dealership if you are looking for a new or used car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Overcast
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- A96715P
- VIN
- JTMAAAAD6TJ010328
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarShop Chester Springs -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cherry Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine wi
- Stock #
- Y24529
- VIN
- KNDEUCAA4M7124529
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hyundai of TurnersvilleReviews
Hyundai of Turnersville review
A pleasure working with the staff. Very helpful and went out of their way to meet all of our expectations Excellent service, and highly recommended.
2021 Kia Seltos review
I just purchased one yesterday!! I must say I’m quite impressed with this I can’t believe I’m going to say this but I’ve always driven a Jeep wrangler well it’s time for something new and this has been so perfect for me I absolutely love it 😍
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- A97074
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H33RM714877
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
2024 Honda HR-V review
Love how car handles. The HRV is wonderful on traveling bc I have arthritis and it was a pleasure to drive on long trips. It’s smooth riding and an attractive car. It is easier to get into than the CRV bc I am short (5’2) so I had to climb up into CRV but not HRV.
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$13,290
Est. $240/mo Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep Mits
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Labrador Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- V260245B
- VIN
- JA4AP3AU3KU027847
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep MitsReviews
Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep Mits review
First time buyer at D'Ambrosio as we had been looking for a pre-owned Jeep Grand Cherokee for our daughter. The team was so very helpful for our family and Rachel Brennan did an awesome job! They kept us informed as vehicles of our interest and criteria came to the dealer, and the overall shopping and buying experience was straight forward and easy. Thank you Rachel!
2019 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport review
I leased my outlander sport. Bought our the lease. I love my car!! Rides great!! Very comfortable. I would recommend this 2019 outlander sport definitely!!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Chili Pepper Red
- Int. color
- Carbon Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- PMR50800
- VIN
- WMZ83BR07R3R50800
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Auto HubReviews
Auto Hub review
Straightforward pricing, decent selection, no drama. I'd looked at two other lots the same week and both of them had that thing where the online price only applies if you finance through them. Auto Hub just quoted me a number and stuck to it.
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$28,990
Est. $524/mo CarShop Chester Springs
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mythos Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- A97113P
- VIN
- WA1DECF30S1062396
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
CarShop Chester Springs review
I bought my second car from Jeff Reifsnyder at Carshop, Chester Springs, PA. Jeff is very professional, knowledgeable and courteous. He provided me will excellent service during and after the sale. I highly recommend anyone looking for a used vehicle to give Jeff the business. Regards, Tom Lengyel
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestite
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 31-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- A96983P
- VIN
- 7MUAAAAG9TV164907
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
CarShop Chester Springs review
The customer service was great. My salesperson Billy was extremely helpful and knowledgeable and made the process go smoothly.
2026 Toyota Corolla Cross review
love my wind chill pearl 25 corolla cross just which it has a litte more hsp great on gas and safety love the color and ride
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$29,066
New 2026 Buick Envista Sport Touring 
$33,855
New 2027 Honda HR-V EX-L 
$51,175
New 2026 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 4MATIC 
$51,695
New 2026 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 4MATIC 
$27,183
New 2026 Buick Envista Preferred 
$32,295
New 2027 Honda HR-V Sport 
$30,685
New 2027 Kia Seltos X-Line 
$31,135
New 2026 Mazda CX-30 Select 
$36,585
New 2026 Mazda CX-30 Premium Package
$50,990
New 2026 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 4MATIC 
$33,714
New 2026 Mazda CX-30 2.5 S Aire Edition 
$50,595
New 2026 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 4MATIC -
$25,789
Est. $466/mo CarShop Chester Springs
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polymetal Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- A96875P
- VIN
- 3MVDMBCM3PM586473
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
CarShop Chester Springs review
They are great! Happy with my purchase! I will recommends this company to any one in search to buy a car!
2023 Mazda CX-30 review
So far so amazing. After this car, I'm very positive I will buy the same model. By the way, I don't know when it's going to happen since I feel like this car would stay healthy forever. Cargo room seems like the only part missing but getting a compact SUV like this? It was expected.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gun Metallic
- Int. color
- Sport
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, CVTCS variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- A96855
- VIN
- 3N8AP6DB1SL341609
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
CarShop Chester Springs review
Matt was great! He was knowledgeable and friendly and helped make the experience very positive
2025 Nissan Kicks review
Great aWD SUV! Awesome MPG! Just an all around great vechicle so happy w have 3 on our family, recommend to everyone who is looking!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Smoke Green
- Int. color
- Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 7V91313A
- VIN
- WMZ23GA06V7V91313
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
BMW of West Chester (PA)Reviews
BMW of West Chester (PA) review
Ralph is fantastic! So was every other member of the staff we interacted with when we purchased our pre-owned car last month. We were treated like we were buying the most expensive vehicle at the dealership, when I think it was actually the least expensive. Just a fabulous experience!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cayenne Orange Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Red Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- A96932P
- VIN
- KL77LJE21RC186372
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
CarShop Chester Springs review
Nick was a total lifesaver! I was passing through town for just one night when my car's hood wouldn't latch shut, and I had no idea how I'd make it home. I called about 15 minutes before closing, and Nick told me to come right over. I pulled in with just a few minutes to spare, and he was already there waiting for me. He diagnosed and fixed the problem in under two minutes flat. Without his quick help, I would've been stuck in town for days. So grateful!
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
I love my Chevy Trax I bought it in 2023 its a 2024 it drives good get awesome gas mileage drove from Oregon to Oklahoma and back and one more time to Oklahoma no brake dows yes its lower to the crowd but for me its perfect to get in and out It has a lot of room in back seat and back of car for shopping It only hat one problem the Moniterscreen whent out but the Recall fixt it
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.3L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- A97069P
- VIN
- KL79MRSLXTB141896
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
CarShop Chester SpringsReviews
2026 Chevrolet Trailblazer review
I picked up the RS and I love it overall. There are just a few things I find annoying. First is there is no rear door exterior lock button like on my 2017 Cruze, it’s annoying to have to go to the front door and then to the rear door if I’m wanting to grab something. Second is the radio, my 2017 had 10 programmable stations and this only has 5, not to mention it seems to take forever to load the audio for sxm while it is instant on my older car. Third is the trunk wheel well, you are not even provided with a donut spare. I wanted to get a full size spare but the storage spot is too small and only a donut will fit. Fourth is how petty and cheap Chevrolet seems to have become, my owners manual is in a plastic ziplock bag, xxx is that? What happened to getting an organizer case to hold the manual and registration/insurance? I find that part to be pretty pathetic.
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