Used Toyota cars for sale in Eugene, OR
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black / Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.0L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- T203981A
- VIN
- JTENU5JR2P6203981
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hyundai EugeneReviews
2023 Toyota 4Runner review
Great looking, fun to drive 4x4, super reliable, leather interior but strong enough for 2 dogs and 2 kids. Goes anywhere. Roof rack easy to use. HAs all the electronic helper (BSM, cross traffic alert, lane keeping, adaptive cruise). The downside is the gas milage. 16.5 to 18 mpg depending on time of year & type of gas (summer vs winter gas). No service issues in 45,000 miles but they did some fuel pump recall when I was in for an oil change
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Flare Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-37
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- P036785AA
- VIN
- JTEAAAAHXMJ036785
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Hyundai EugeneReviews
2021 Toyota Venza review
I had the 2021 Venza XLE for 4.5 years. I just traded it in. I never had one issue with the car. Great gas mileage, comfortable, great drive. I recommend it for anyone interested.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 5.7L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- 019892
- VIN
- 5TFBV54187X019892
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto KingsReviews
Auto Kings review
From the moment you walk through the door you can tell this is not going to be your typical dealership. This was a full experience instead of just buying out next vehicle. Really happy we chose Auto Kings.
2007 Toyota Tundra review
Almost a classic now, but still runs like a new one. Only brand I’ll ever own. And will always have atleast 1 second generation around.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cypress Pearl
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I-4 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular unleaded, e
- Stock #
- 014773
- VIN
- 5TDKA3DC6CS014773
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Auto KingsReviews
Auto Kings review
Awesome. Very professional. Ana was great. My only concern was that I asked for current pics of the car and didn't get any but the car delivered was beyond expectations
2012 Toyota Sienna review
We have liked the Toyota Sienna so much, this is the 2nd one we purchased and each one we owned and never experienced any out of the ordinary problems. Great family vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Int. color
- Black / Orange
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- SA1412
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5ANXLM350487
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Subaru of AlbanyReviews
Subaru of Albany review
Very nice, very smart explained everything and left me with the feeling of a job well done and left feel happy
2020 Toyota Tacoma review
I love my Tacoma. I've always been a GMC person, but wasn't happy with their smaller pickup options. I made the jump to a Tacoma and I've already driven it across the country. I was very comfortable, extremely happy with performance.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Red
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- TC260616A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN1KM282532
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Toyota of CorvallisReviews
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought a 2019 Tacoma with 89k. So far performance is fantastic and can definitely experience the quality build. This has made me skeptical of the reviews about poor engine build and transmission problems like hunting for gears. Can't pretty much dispel the proven track record of the 2019 as one of Toyota best build of the year. As for the transmission, it is still the best performing and reliable 6 speed transmission as compared to the other brands with high failure rates. One of the reason I stick with Toyota because I once had another brand manufacturer bought new and as soon as it hit over 100k, transmission problems or some solenoid problem. As for the engine, the dealer even included a lifetime engine warranty. That just tells me, they never expect the engine to fail. the review with the engine knocking sounds like an another brand car. it just doesn't happen to a toyota.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Cap
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i variable valv
- Stock #
- P4675
- VIN
- 4T1G11AK6RU204014
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Toyota of CorvallisReviews
2024 Toyota Camry review
30 years of Owning Toyota Vehicles. Totally Satisfied with the V6 XSE and Has been the Best one so far. I hope the 2026 is Superior
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 48-47
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- SA1417
- VIN
- 4T1DAACK7SU587807
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Subaru of AlbanyReviews
Subaru of Albany review
I enjoyed the friendly service and tasty beverages. The process went smoothly and invloved clear explanations. Each step of the process invloved careful questions about how I wished to proceed and what I needed.
2025 Toyota Camry review
Excellent gas mileage! The 2025 Toyota Camry LE model is a very smooth ride. Sporty get up and go and very agile. The driver's seat is difficult to find the best comfort for long drives. Storage space is minimal, but I found add-ons that were a perfect fit. Bottom line.... a car you can trust that pays itself off at the pump!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wind Chill Pearl
- Int. color
- Boulder
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE MAX 3.4L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- P4754
- VIN
- 7SVAAABA4PX019574
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Toyota of CorvallisReviews
2023 Toyota Sequoia review
We bought this with 21k on it. It's a really stylish looking ride. We understood the rear cargo issues folks are having when we bought the vehicle. It works fine for us. The car came with a tow hitch and we have a carrier for that area to hall extra luggage. The fuel economy doesn't compare to the ratings given by the manufacturer, but for the size and power of the car it's quite good. We average 18 to 19 all the way around.. The car rides great for it's size and is very comfortable and the seats are very spacious. So far we are very pleased with this car. One note. Every person in the reviews talks of wind noise at 55MPH. It surely is a problem Toyota needs to look into. We like the car so much that we are willing to overlook this one issue. BUT it is a real issue. This is where the luxury of the car disappears.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Coastal Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P4728
- VIN
- JTEAAAAH9RJ157413
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Toyota of Corvallis -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Metal
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- S26543A
- VIN
- JTMABACA2PA032252
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Subaru of AlbanyReviews
Subaru of Albany review
Our sales associate, Jordan Wolf, was great. He was personable, helpful, friendly and respectful. We enjoyed working with him. The dealership is a very comfortable place
2023 Toyota bZ4X review
What I do not like Remote start: There is no option just to start the HVAC, you have to start the car. The car needs to be locked. Why not combine 2 functions - lock first, then start HVAC. After getting into the car and starting, a number of features do not work and need manual intervention: Auto setting for heated seats and steering wheel Phone no longer connects. Manual intervention needed to connect CarPlay (several taps) I have not been able to get scheduled HVAC going from the app. Multi-Information display is almost obstructed by steering wheel. And I am 6’2”. Steering-wheel buttons are crowded. Setting, canceling, resuming buttons are close together and I need to look at the wheel to find the right button. Audio volume is much easier with a knob… I had to restrict the upper range of the lift gate opening so it would not hit the garage door. Now I hit my head on the lift gate edge if I am not careful. My car came with only 1 key fob. Several months later still no 2nd fob. Heat takes a long time to come on. Lack of recording cameras, like Tesla. Knob to put in Drive or Reverse. Easy to select the wrong direction. Pushbuttons are easier. Only randomly is CarPlay activated when starting car. I only want Carplay. What I like Auto parking brake. Seats are comfortable. Easy to drive the car smoothly. Comfortable. Auto heated seats and steering wheel. Qi wireless charger Wireless CarPlay (will not buy a car without it) Rubber car mats. Overall comments: I like the car, but the interfaces in the Hyundai Kona Electric I had previously were better.
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$44,000
Est. $750/mo Toyota of Corvallis
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Storm Cloud
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- P4730
- VIN
- 5TDAAAB56SS094384
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wind Chill Pearl
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 49-50
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control
- Stock #
- P4737
- VIN
- JTDADABU7R3012866
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Toyota of CorvallisReviews
2024 Toyota Prius review
As described and amazing car. Would be nice that it would have a small spare tire of sort but still an amazing vehicle and safety as 1st priority.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control
- Stock #
- TC260732A
- VIN
- JTDACACU4P3007770
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Toyota of CorvallisReviews
Toyota of Corvallis review
After a bad experience with the previous owner of this dealership I had vowed never to buy another Toyota. However, my conversation with an AI bot indicated a specific model of Toyota would best fit my needs. Maya worked all week to find that model. Unfortunately, there were none on the horizon. Then late in the week she was able to come up with an option for a vehicle one step higher at the price of the vehicle I wanted to buy in the first place. Thank you Maya.
2023 Toyota Prius Prime review
This car is overall great to own. I have an XSE trim, and though I would've liked to have XSE Premium's features, those are minor gripes at worst. Daily commutes are a breeze. I have a bit of a light foot while driving but it's easy to merge into traffic even in EV mode (161hp compared to 220hp in hybrid mode). Steering feels grounded and relative to how much effort should be put into turning. The braking is also good; it feels linear without any jolts or sponginess. The engine can get noisy if the battery's low (less than 25%) but it's seldom been an issue for me. Changing the drive mode to Sport makes regenerative braking slightly stronger and steering slightly heavier. I average about 4.8mi/kWh (161.7MPGe) and 56MPG. Road trips are also great in this vehicle. The EPA estimate for this vehicle's trim is 39 electric miles and 50MPG. I get about 40 miles with cruise control on, and MPG in the mid-high 50s or low 60s with good weather. Ride quality is smooth and there's no shaking when going over small bumps. The seats are comfortable up front even over long periods of time. It's a bit low getting in (especially in the back). Rear seats are a little snug; I'm 5'10½" and can fit well enough with a tiny bit of room to stretch my legs. I can fit my hand between my head and the ceiling, so anyone who's taller or has larger hair should stick to the front. Visibility is good overall. I had to adjust the steering wheel column down some to clearly see the dashboard information but it isn't uncomfortable to me. Outward visibility great out of the front and sides, but the rear window is pretty small. I would've opted for XSE Premium's digital rearview mirror if I frequently hauled larger things around. Cargo space and storage is pretty decent for the class. I can fit two midsize suitcases in the back with the tonneau cover on. The front and rear cupholders can hold 20oz travel mugs and the bottle holders in the doors can hold a 22fl oz can. The center console can hold a good amount of small objects and the tray in the middle can be removed for more space. All in all, I'd recommend the Prius to anyone looking for a small vehicle. The regular one is better on gas and has a bit more cargo space, but if you're able to regularly plug in, i'd say go for the PHEV variant.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.0L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- SA1414
- VIN
- JTENU5JR5P6203280
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Subaru of AlbanyReviews
Subaru of Albany review
The staff was knowledgeable and friendly. The facility was clean and bright, good price on car and trade. Took a bit long to get they the whole process.
2023 Toyota 4Runner review
We chose the 2023 4Runner Limited because of it's reliable 1GR V6 engine and the simple, tried and true, 5 speed transmission. And NO turbo! The interior is detailed and attractive with clearly reachable buttons and knobs for climate, radio, and touchscreen. The ride is much better than described in many reviews. We find that it is similar to our former GMC Yukon. The one downside is it's fuel mileage. In real world daily driving we're getting 18-19 mpg around town and 19-21 on the highway. Our Highlander gets 21-22 mpg in town and 24mpg on the highway. This is our 4th 4Runner so we know what to expect. Our 2004 is still on the road with 278,000 miles; going strong.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 41-38
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- SA1389
- VIN
- 4T3MWRFV6LU001662
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Subaru of AlbanyReviews
Subaru of Albany review
They fixed a recall. I was pleased. Not sure what else would benefit your service I love my subaru Forester ..... and would recommend a subaru to friends.
2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid review
PROS: * Overall 39 or 40 MPG combined city and highway. Really. * 500+ mile range on a full tank * Toyota's driver assist goodies work well (radar cruise, et. al) to reduce driver fatigue in both stop-and-go commuting and highway trips. * Sufficient power and acceleration to compete with big-city freeway traffic; uphill freeway on-ramps and so forth. * Nicely agile without being skittish. It goes where you tell it to with no drama. * I have done mild off-roading in Arizona. No problems, handles as hoped for. CONS: * Only one I can think of. Front seats are stiff. I find myself shifting my weight to get comfortable more often than I like.
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