Used cars for sale near Waco, TX
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- Ext. color
- Cherry Red Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 5.3L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- I603U
- VIN
- 1GNSCNKD4MR148366
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Bird Kultgen FordReviews
2021 Chevrolet Tahoe review
Had engine issues but GMC resolved. Love the air ride. Handles well on the road. Gas mileage is typical for these suvs. Love my truck
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- Ext. color
- Black Raven
- Int. color
- Brandy w/Very Dark Atmosphere Accents
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 6.2L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- I614U
- VIN
- 1GYS4FKLXMR184866
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Bird Kultgen FordReviews
2021 Cadillac Escalade review
Nice vehicle very good family truck 68,000 miles very solid have not had any major issues comfortable and ample power like the options great power pulling boat
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$196,050
Est. $3,418/mo Earth MotorCars / Lotus of Dallas
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- CL401674
- VIN
- 4Y86N401674
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Earth MotorCars / Lotus of DallasReviews
Earth MotorCars / Lotus of Dallas review
Beautiful car as pictured. Needed a number of things addressed that you could not see in pictures. Manager was very persuasive about making sure all the things that needed attention would be addressed but I was concerned that there was more than I could see in a short drive and inspection. Would need some more time to make sure that the vehicle was as advertised. Just not comfortable completing purchase Still a beautiful vehicle, was very hard to not complete purchase.
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$84,927
Est. $1,481/mo Earth MotorCars / Lotus of Dallas
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- Ext. color
- Shadow Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled supercharger,
- Stock #
- LUHB11550
- VIN
- SCCLEKAXXRHB11550
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Earth MotorCars / Lotus of DallasReviews
Earth MotorCars / Lotus of Dallas review
Ivan Navarrete and the staff at Earth MotorCars were outstanding to work with on our Hellcat purchase! We highly recommend visiting Earth Motor Cars for your next car purchase! John Gilliard- Oklahoma
2024 Lotus Emira review
I have owned several Lotus over 35 yrs from an original Super 7 to an Elan, an Elise, an Evora and 3 Esprits. This car is amazing, I'm 6 foot 230lbs and there is plenty of room. Great car all around, and finally the fit and finish is excellent
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- Ext. color
- Starfire Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular unleaded, e
- Stock #
- 56599A
- VIN
- 2T2ZK1BA0FC174903
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Garlyn Shelton NissanReviews
Garlyn Shelton Nissan review
Colby was amazing!! Super sweet and helpful. And fun to talk to while waiting on the finance process. Finance guy was quick and to the point. Explained everything well. Will definitely go back again for next vehicle.
2015 Lexus RX 350 review
AT AGE 92, I NEEDED ANOTHER CAR EASY TO GET IN AND OUT, RELIABLE, SAFE, WITH MANY BELLS AND WHISTLES, AND AFFORDABLE. I FOUND A 2015 LEXUS RX350 WITH JUST OVER 70K MILES IN SUPURB CONDITION FOR 18,600K, IN FLORIDA. HAVE HAD IT FOR 9 WEEKS, AND IT IS THE BEST VALUE CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED, INCLUDING A BMW AND MB SUV.
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- Ext. color
- Infinite Black Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Hot Chocolate
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 44025A
- VIN
- 5LM5J7XC1SGL30423
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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BMW of TempleReviews
BMW of Temple review
I had an awesome experience at BMW of Temple! The staff was very friendly, helpful and courteous. I would like to give a special shout out to Ashley Green (Vehicle Exchange Coordinator) for being sooooo helpful! Ashley worked with me until the purchase was completed. Ashley was very professional, knowledgeable and easy to work with. If you’re out at BMW of Temple ask for Ashley Green. You will not be disappointed. Thanks again Ashley and BMW of Temple, Texas! Ashley you ROCK!
2025 Lincoln Aviator review
An amazing vehicle. We went with the all wheel drive Reserve II base, with 201A, jet, and dynamic handling packages. Took the price up to a tad below 84K. I love this vehicle! From it lowering itself a few inches when you walk up to it to make it easier to get in, The 30-way adjustable seats, the fantastic ride when you're driving it, and overall appearance of it, awesome! I highly recommend this!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 5
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70041531
- VIN
- 3C3CFFFH8JT378085
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Seating
- Memory Seat
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CarMax KilleenReviews
2018 FIAT 500 review
One of the must fun commuter cars you can own. Good gas mileage, good acceleration and unique euro styling for less than many others in it's class.
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$21,702
Est. $378/mo All American Chevrolet of Killeen
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Black
- Int. color
- Carbon Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- P3P37451A
- VIN
- WMZ53BR06P3P37451
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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All American Chevrolet of KilleenReviews
All American Chevrolet of Killeen review
Justin and Mike were such an interictal part in my experience. First, I parked outside of the sales area instead of service. I was escorted over to service to get my issues resolved. I did not have to wait in a line. Mike wasted no time and offered to valet my car over to service so that he could take a look at what was causing the issues. After realizing there were issues that needed to be addressed, he refused to let me drive my car off the lot. He coordinated with Justin to try to find a loaner for me to use while my car was being worked on. When I had originally called, they told me there were no loaners available, but after connecting with me on a personal level and realizing how much I use my vehicle, Justin quickly got a car turned around for me to use this last week. I was quote that the the engine problems I was having could take several weeks due to the demand. I was back in my car in less than 1 week. They also identified and resolved a recall issue in that time as well. Mike was personable and kind, and Justin was hard working and pleasant. It is obvious that they care very much for their customers and the integrity of the dealership. I have told several people about how grateful I am for the service they provided.
2023 MINI Countryman review
Bought a 2023 Mini Countryman ALL4 John Cooper Works Edition of the car, and received my order last summer. Simply put, the performance is AMAZING. Put it in Sport Mode (a minor inconvenience), and it becomes a force to be reckoned with, especially to those unaware of this car’s capabilities. It’s marketed as a Mini—SUV, and I think that’s a fair categorization. Still have plenty of room for passengers, groceries,!etc, without sacrificing much, if any, performance. My only complaints? Difficult/clumsy control mechanism to get into Sport Mode, no native Android support, and rear windows are awkwardly installed, and have been “properly aligned” with remainder of car, instead of giving the appearance of being aligned with front/rear windows. In summation, this car performs better than its competition (a 2L inline 4cylinder, lightly turbocharged/intercooled, AWD, pretty aesthetics, and lots of opportunities for upgrades, beyond 301HP, 331FT/LBS Torque, and you have a contender for “production car SLEEPER OF THE YEAR!”), like the other “hot hatches”. Everytime my wife or I drive it, we NOW take turns.(she was bitten by the Mini bug) driving it EVERYWHERE, from trips to work, to the grocery store, and vacation driving. You really have to drive a JCW in Sport Mode to appreciate what I’ve said. Anyhow, these are my impressions on this amazing little car. Worth every penny, not getting rid of or replacing it, anytime soon!
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- Ext. color
- Carbon Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Coffee
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L I-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable va
- Stock #
- 44069A
- VIN
- 5UX23EU00T9257276
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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BMW of TempleReviews
BMW of Temple review
This is my fifth car I have bought from BMW of Temple and per usually they never disappoint! Traded my 2022 X5 for a 2024 X5 with all the newest updates. Shout out to Ted Degracia, Ashley Green and David (BMW Genuius) for being phenomenal throughout the entire process. Kerry Rodriguez always makes the finance process quick and painless. I will continue to keep coming back to the place that customer service is outstanding and feels like home.
2026 BMW X5 review
very great car so far, price is high though and value for price is yet to be determined. Overall nice ride and high end SUV
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- Ext. color
- Snowflake White Pearl Mica
- Int. color
- Silk Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variabl
- Stock #
- 57060A
- VIN
- JM3KFACM5L0753627
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Garlyn Shelton NissanReviews
Garlyn Shelton Nissan review
Colby was great, all the staff were friendly and took our humor well. This is the second car we have purchased from Garlyn Shelton, first one was from Cadillac, great company.
2020 Mazda CX-5 review
I love it! Bought it new in 2020. Grand Touring Reserve with the turbo in Soul Crystal red metallic. I'm currently at 56k miles with zero issues. I do oil changes every 5k miles. Originally I test drove a CRV, RAV4, Forrester, and CX5. I picked the Mazda bc it looks, feels, and drives like a luxury SUV. 320 |b/ft of torque for a compact really gives it the edge over anything else in the class. Four years later and it still feels as solid as the day I bought it. The handling's amazing, and the ride is great! Some people have called the ride firm but I would say it's super compliant. It settles very quickly over bumps without feeling upset. The Bose system sounds "good" but only has bass and treble adjustments with no mid which would make it even better. The ventilated seats work better than in other cars I tested as well. It's also one of the quietest too letting in very little wind and tire noise.
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- Ext. color
- Jet Black
- Int. color
- Cognac
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 44062A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP05P9N51653
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
BMW of TempleReviews
BMW of Temple review
Temple BMW is a great dealership to work with. The staff is helpful, knowledgeable, and efficient. Ashley was such a pleasure to work with and guided me to the perfect car to fit my needed. It was a great experience.
2023 BMW X3 review
Love it. Car is comfy, quick and the wonderful B58 Twin-Scroll Turbo I6 makes all the right noises! Awesome daily driver. Period! Interior has all of the amenities you could ever ask for. Ride is luxury-oriented but also can grip & RIP through the corners, almost as well as any sports sedan out there pretty much.
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$32,274
Est. $563/mo Garlyn Shelton Volkswagen
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- P60248
- VIN
- 3GTPHCEK5NG685814
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Garlyn Shelton VolkswagenReviews
2022 GMC Sierra 1500 review
My 2022 GMC Sierra 3.0 Duramax pickup truck is a good truck. I work on a farm and I also drive an hour to see my girlfriend. For the farm, it has excellent towing capability and for the hour long drive to go see my girlfriend, depending on the weather for traveling, I can get up to 35 miles to the gallon!
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$37,569
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28868008
- VIN
- WA1BBAFY3P2015820
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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CarMax KilleenReviews
2023 Audi Q5 review
Q5 is a very comfortable & great performance vehicle. The Prestige model has options that other manufacturers only wish for & gets great gas mileage street & highway .
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$23,774
Est. $414/mo Garlyn Shelton Volkswagen
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- Ext. color
- silver
- Int. color
- black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- P60250
- VIN
- 3VV3B7AX8PM064680
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Garlyn Shelton VolkswagenReviews
2023 Volkswagen Tiguan review
I absolutely love this car and all it’s features even though it doesn’t open and close trunk via keyphobe. Kids love the car especially the panoramic sunroof.
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$21,915
Est. $382/mo Garlyn Shelton Buick GMC
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Shara Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 15034A
- VIN
- 1GYKNERS9JZ164821
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Garlyn Shelton Buick GMCReviews
2018 Cadillac XT5 review
Previously I had a GM Blazer that was the worst car I’ve ever hard. So I was afraid to buy another GM car. But this 2018 XT5 should be on some kind of special 10 out of 10 list. I found this car on a Cadillac dealer’s lot with only 700 miles on it. I guess I got lucky because in 8 years I had a small AC issue and nothing else! It handles incredibly and never seems to have any issues! I can only hope it continues for another 8 years. It is great!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crimson Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- P20149
- VIN
- JF2SKAFC4MH497640
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Garlyn Shelton Buick GMCReviews
2021 Subaru Forester review
Other than battery replacement , car has been amazing ! 1 exception cup holders are located too far aft and require driver to look down to locate cup without removing eyes from road ! This issue has been partially addressed in later years by offsetting passengers holder slightly forward of drivers, but still awkward position ! both should be more forward nearer to dash !
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