Used cars for sale near Berwick, PA
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Metallic
- Int. color
- Medium Light Stone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 1154KA
- VIN
- 1FMCU9GD5HUA98442
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Miracle Ford - TamaquaReviews
2017 Ford Escape review
This vehicle has been awesome from the day I first started driving it. Great on gas, engine is very responsive and reliable. A/C is very cold and the starts so nicely every time. The engine has all the power you would ever need. This one is a 2.0 Turbo. I have kept this car serviced regularly and it has performed flawlessly.
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- Ext. color
- Red Multi-Coat
- Int. color
- White/Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 712614
- VIN
- 5YJ3E1EB4LF712614
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Autopilot
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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RechargedReviews
Recharged review
Dealership was well run with adequate inventory. Sale was smooth and seamless. Purchase time beat other dealerships.
2020 Tesla Model 3 review
2018 Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD I purchased this car with a little less than 60k miles one and a half years ago for 21k. It now as 97k miles and the only maintenance I’ve done have been new tires and windshield washer fluid. Someone made a left turn in front of me and the car was already braking as I was lifting my foot off the accelerator. Quite literally saved my life. The suspension is tuned to be sporty, so it’s not a plush ride by any means, but it’s hard to beat at its price point in the used market.
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- Ext. color
- Silver Zynith
- Int. color
- Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- P6996
- VIN
- 1C4RJKAG5P8881477
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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LUCAS CHEVROLETReviews
LUCAS CHEVROLET review
Very friendly and helpful from the time I walked in the door until I left. Highly recommend this dealership especially Joe W who was amazing to work with.
2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L review
i recently had a 2023 for explorer it was a good truck never a problem but not a comfortable as the jeep grand Cherokee l front seating is amazing no issues at all i did my research and made sure i bought one with the German transmission its a good idea to check that only thing i can say on the down side seam to be a little under powered but i can live with it decent milage 20 around town.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Machine Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 30604A
- VIN
- 3MZBN1M39JM177744
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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W & L SubaruReviews
W & L Subaru review
I had a great experience at W&L. The staff was very attentive and welcoming. I did not feel pressured. Dale took great care in helping me trade in my car. I am very happy with the new car I purchased. The paperwork was done quickly, which was nice. I got to drive my new car off the lot same day, which just made the whole experience better.
2018 Mazda Mazda3 review
I haven't owned a 4 cylinder in a long time. I had a turbo 5 Volvo, a 6 cylinder accord, and a Mercedes c300 6 as my last three cars, then before that I owned a last model year RSX (2006, I wouldn't count the new ones) for a long time so that's the closest comparison to this. I think the RSX felt a bit more sporty (I didn't have the Type S), but as for power they're a pretty close match, and I bet the Mazda 3 would smoke it off the line with it's torque heavy engine. I think the RSX looked more sporty too, it had probably a more mature styling to it that I appreciate now even more than I did when I owned one, but I will say every time I look at my Mazda 3 I like it more and more. I've seen a thousand of these on the road and never had a strong opinion on them, but my girl in red keeps growing on me, and when I take the dog out for walks I circle the car and look it over and understand it more and more. I have a 2018 fully loaded GT, and the interior is mostly it's strongest positive. The facelifted w204 is easily the nicest looking interior I've ever been in, and the accord maybe the most comfortable, but this is incredibly close to the accord in terms of comfort and only lacking in slightly worse seats and less room. The seats are great though, but the 2012 accords were some of the best I've say in. The fake leather has a great balance of firm and give to it, and what's even better is the whole interior is wrapped in a similar nice synthetic material that's a joy to be wrapped in. I've never owned a car where my arms are supported on both sides in such a comfortable manner. I'm 6'1 so I keep my seat low but I feel like I have a good deal of room, in fact, I test drove a 2023 (gen 4) Mazda 3 that was an incredible price, about $800 off from my 2018 and even less miles but the new interior design is nowhere close to as good as what we get in the gen 3. You have almost no room to spread your legs out in the newer models and that's a deal breaker for me. The one major weakness of the 2018's interior is the tablet on top of the dash looks hideous. I think I mentioned earlier my model is fully loaded, and I mean it. But what's that mean, a premium sound system, some exterior trim pieces tacked on? Nope, here we have some genuinely cool features. Adaptive headlights that turn with the wheel, a heads up display that's projected on a piece of clear plastic that raises up when you start the engine and can show speed, road signs, blind spot info, next GPS heading, etc. We have automatic windshield wipers, adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, a great Bose sound system, paddle shifters. My car has more bells and whistles than my wife's high trim 2023 Tuscon. I really love my little Mazda, and I'm hoping to take it down some back roads to see if I can enjoy the driving part as much as some others do, as I've mostly spent time on the highway or in stop and go so far. This was a purchase I was unsure of 3 days ago when I made it, but every couple waking hours something pulls me to that car, whether to drive it or just to sit in it. I know now I've made a great choice.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 29977A
- VIN
- JF2SKALC9RH405756
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
W & L SubaruReviews
W & L Subaru review
Very happy with our new vehicle purchase. It went so smoothly and quickly. Dale is a wonderful salesman. We would highly recommend W&L Subaru to anyone looking and we look forward to a great future relationship with this dealership. We travelled three hours to purchase from them because of their great reputation.
2024 Subaru Forester review
the forester sport is very reliable get 26 mpg on most of my daily commutes. Drives great in the winter (even though I have the same tires they came with). Traveling in it on road trips are great, 31 mpg using the cruise control and lane assist. It's not a very fast SUV but it honestly worth it. I tend to speed, but it's not something that actually bothers me. I was worried it would be too sluggish. I picked the forester for my road trips, and extra stuff I drive with.
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$24,992
Est. $452/mo W & L Subaru
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 72064A
- VIN
- JA4J4VA84NZ066753
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
W & L SubaruReviews
2022 Mitsubishi Outlander review
Already had this car for 3 years and still loving it.Remains modern with all it’s add ons…not jealous at all of all those expensive similar models…this has it all for a whole lot less…thank you
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Java Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 30558A
- VIN
- 4S4BTAPC7S3233327
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
W & L SubaruReviews
W & L Subaru review
I had a great experience at W&L Subaru, and I can’t say enough good things about Dale. From start to finish, he made the entire process smooth, stress-free, and actually enjoyable. He was knowledgeable, patient, and never made me feel pressured—just genuinely helpful in making sure I found the right vehicle for my needs. Dale took the time to answer all my questions and made sure I was comfortable with every step. It’s clear he truly cares about his customers and takes pride in what he does. If you’re looking for a dealership you can trust and a salesperson who goes above and beyond, I highly recommend asking for Dale!
2025 Subaru Outback review
An excellent vehicle for the bat s..t crazy fast urban interstates that are all cracked and busted that I commute daily - soaks up road imperfections very well - excellent visibility quality fit and finish . surprisingly well equipped - fantastic safety + features and my first car with turning headlights and water proof seats- cool machine all around. highly recommend.
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- Ext. color
- Autumn Green Metallic
- Int. color
- Ivory
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- W0304
- VIN
- 4S4BTANCXR3102373
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
The Sunbury Motor CompanyReviews
The Sunbury Motor Company review
Buying a brand new car with Sunbury Motors was an amazing experience. I had the extreme pleasure of working with Jeff and Jared. They both were warm and friendly throughout the process. All future cars will be purchased here.
2024 Subaru Outback review
This is the eleventh Subaru I have owned, the third outback; the Outback wilderness is by far the best performer of all of the others I have had. I have been happy with subarus from the first one I bought a 1978 Brat; sure wish i still had it.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jungle Green
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.8L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KV1144
- VIN
- 5XYP5DGC2RG464048
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
The Sunbury Motor CompanyReviews
The Sunbury Motor Company review
We did a lot of searching with different dealers and Sunbury Ford had the SUV that I liked and the best deal. We went in and test drove the vehicle and loved it. Matt was amazing to work with and we decided to purchase it that day. Love our car, thank you Matt,Jeff,Shaun, and thank you Sunbury Ford!
2024 Kia Telluride review
Have driven just over 20,000 miles so far. No issues. Drive between Clearwater and Gainesville regularly plus a couple other family trips and daily around town. Averages about 27 mpg at 75, quiet and pleasant ride. Trips were nice with good visibility front and back and plenty of room for stuff. Highly recommend.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 31-40
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve co
- Stock #
- H26762A
- VIN
- 2HGFE2F29PH539885
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Matt Burne HondaReviews
Matt Burne Honda review
Dave Conway was excellent to deal with from the start. He handled the complete sales cycle from beginning to end hassle-free. I would recommend him to anybody. Dave is an asset to Matt Burnie Honda. I would definitely buy another car from Dave.
2023 Honda Civic review
After changing jobs and having to drive 100 miles round trip, I decided to buy the 2023 Honda Civic, I think it was the best decision of my life, not only does it save me a lot of gas but it looks spectacular on the outside and not to mention The interior is simply perfect with a lot of space, like any criticism there are negative points such as the sound system which in my opinion lacks power to be able to listen to your favorite songs at full volume, another point that I would like to highlight is that it lacks entry to the car without having to use your remote control even my 2011 grand cherokee has it, in a general perspective it seems like a good car for price, safety and appearance, it has been my first honda and I think I will continue with the tradition of continuing to buy this model for a long time
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- Ext. color
- Dune Grey Metallic
- Int. color
- Calm Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, inte
- Stock #
- 7606191
- VIN
- 5UX53GP06T9321048
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
BMW of AllentownReviews
BMW of Allentown review
Mason is incredible! 1 call is all it took. I told him all my needs and desires and he achieved the goal. It was a smooth hassle free process from beginning to end. I love that for me haha! Also, my 2026 X5 was priced extremely well given the packages included in the build. Overall, an outstanding experience! Thanks Mason! You’re truly a ROCKSTAR!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- 29181A
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EP4LFB04203
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
W & L SubaruReviews
W & L Subaru review
Great experience at W &L when shopping for a used vehicle. Large selection of vehicles, great staff and lots of amenities while waiting. Nick was friendly; not pushy at all. No pressure at this dealership. Will buy there again in the future! Highly recommend.
2020 Ford F-150 review
I was searching for a specific vehicle and I found a few on cars.com. 2020 F-150 Super Cab 2.7L Ecoboost, 10 speed transmission. At first I was concerned since I've never had a truck with a small V6. I was looking for good HP and good MPG. I liked the sporty trim STX look. Great acceleration and great MPG. Much better than my previous 2006 F-150 5.4L, which was a great truck, but it was time for a change. I do recommend this vehicle if you want MPG, power, and great towing capacity.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iconic Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- W0315
- VIN
- 1FTEW3LP2SKE12734
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
The Sunbury Motor CompanyReviews
The Sunbury Motor Company review
Purchasing my new Bronco Sport was very pleasant and hassle free. Shawn and Jeff worked with me in finding a vehicle to meet my needs and giving me a reasonable trade-in on my current vehicle.
2025 Ford F-150 review
I purchased a new 2025 XLT powerboost about a month ago. Got around 1500 miles on it. The overall performance of the truck is awesome. Its a good looking truck. I have added tint windows, hard bed cover and I am getting the upgraded leather package for it as well. The gas mileage is great and with hybrid it gets even better. The handling is good. The stop & go is also great. I went from a 2020 Nissan Titan to this F150 and must say I am impressed overall with the truck. I happy about the warranty that ford provided and look to maybe get the extended warranty when the time comes.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- H26685A
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F35PA007853
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Matt Burne HondaReviews
Matt Burne Honda review
Had a great experience buying a car for a change. I didn't feel pressured. Keith was knowledgeable about the product happy to answer any questions that we had. He made the process easy. And has been helpful since the sale.
2023 Honda Accord review
Good car good buying process just wobbles a little at around 70-80 mph while on highway. Might just be a small alignment with only my car may not be a consistent problem.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Electric Shadow
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 28974B
- VIN
- KMHLR4AF2PU372337
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
W & L SubaruReviews
W & L Subaru review
W&L is the place to go if your looking for a new car. I was able to check out the inventory on line, email my intentions and they were totally helpful with everything I needed. I traveled almost 2 hours to W&L for the same car close to home that was $2000. more then W&L. The salesman Ryan was helpful in all aspects, as was everyone I dealt with. Thanks guys. Love my car.
2023 Hyundai ELANTRA review
After getting 284K from our 2003 Elantra GLS and Currently 108K trouble free miles from our 2019 Elantra SEL so far, I just bought a Certified (Passed 173 Point Inspection) 2023 Elantra Limited (Scarlet Red) with 19K miles. It is the most beautiful and Safety Rich (Accident Avoidance) "High Tech" Computer on Wheels Car I ever bought (I'm 65 Years Young!). The Tesla Phase 2 "Highway Driving Assistance" is "Best in Class". Also, The 46-48 MPG average per TANK full (Non Hybrid) is simply amazing! I like the 8 Speed Manual Performance Mode when I want a more spirited FUN to drive ride! Infotainment system and Bose sound system is also very good. The only nice feature NOT including until 2024 Elantra is 360 degree camera monitoring. I might purchase & install an aftermarket 360 camera setup from a Stereo shop in a couple years if I really need it?
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