Used cars for sale near Cambridge, MN
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- KN893411
- VIN
- 1C6SRFFT1KN893411
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morrie's Forest Lake ChevroletReviews
2019 RAM 1500 review
Bought my 19 Rebel new. Been thinking of getting a new one. I can't trade it in. Still love it. Plus I love the 5.7. My wife says it's paid for keep it. She may be right for once. :)
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$23,491
Est. $432/mo John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors
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- Ext. color
- Platinum Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Titan Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L13344
- VIN
- 3VVFB7AX9RM109402
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
John Hirsch's Cambridge MotorsReviews
John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors review
If you're in the market for a new/used vehicle, I'd recommend you come here and talk to Thomas Lee. Truly the best car salesman I've ever worked with . . . and I've bought a car or two in my lifetime. He actually answers his cell phone and when he's not available, he does call/text you back. He answers all questions (no matter how big or small) and doesn't get annoyed. And he actually does what he says he's going to do, he doesn't just "blow smoke" to make the sale! Oh and you can tease with this guy. Very professional, yet still human and can take a joke! I had never purchased a vehicle here before this week and unless something changes or I can't get Thomas, he has all of my future business, hands down. (I only wish we had "found" him three months ago when my son also bought a new vehicle in Cloquet, MN and got bent over bad with that dealership . . . they are so dirty, they even made sure to take the google reviews down as fast as we put them up, because evidently the truth hurts. Day and night difference in the vehicle buying experience. They need to be shut down and sure wouldn't be missed when you can go to John Hirsch in Cambridge, MN and work with Thomas Lee!)
2024 Volkswagen Tiguan review
30mpg avg with the longest and widest roof rail base for outdoor gear at a price that made sense. 2nd row middle seat folds down individually for skis and paddles. Remote start on the vw app is great for cooling the interior down on a 100 degree day from a distance. Rear seat door opening and leg room is huge great for elders to enter easily and for parents loading car seats.
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- Ext. color
- Ocean Gem
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 48-47
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- P12388
- VIN
- 4T1DAACK9SU008123
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Carlson ToyotaReviews
Carlson Toyota review
Kou (sales) takes the time to find what you want and Nick (finance) is a huge help. It’s great to be treated so well! Thanks
2025 Toyota Camry review
I absolutely love my 2025 Heavy Metal Camry SE! It had 15,000 miles on it when I got it. It has a very stylish exterior and interior. Mine has the sunroof, heated seats, heated steering wheel, etc. The upgrades are awesome! Ride quality is so smooth. Changes from the electric motor to the gas motor are hardly noticeable. Very quiet interior that keeps a lot of road noise out. Very easy to use touchscreen display. Has enough power for driving on the highway. If a person wants more power you can put it in sport mode. You’ll just get lower mpg’s. Now depending on how you drive it the mpg’s on this car are amazing! My average is about 46 mpg right now. I’ve gotten as high as 53.7 mpg. It’s so much fun trying to beat your best mpg per trip. Toyota did an amazing job building this car!
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5L V-8 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- B75750
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E56NFB75750
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Anderson & Koch Ford Inc.Reviews
Anderson & Koch Ford Inc. review
Smooth buying experience. My sales guy is great guy, straight forward and made sure everything we talked about was taken care of. I feel the price was of truck was good and trade in price was good. Also they aren't your typical Corporate Dealership which is why I will keep coming back!
2022 Ford F-150 review
2022 F150 PowerBoost 3.5 twin turbo absolutely hauls xxx with phenomenal gas mileage on a 30 gallon tank. I’ve gotten a true 600 and 700 miles out of a tank of gas when it’s in Eco mode it will run on battery alone if you’re on flat level ground and maintain your speed that’s how they obtain so many miles out of a tank full of gas probably one of the best F1 50s I’ve owned and I’ve had several of them. If you leave it in tow Haul mode it will disengage the auto stop start so the vehicle remains on. It’s been absolutely bullet proof with zero issues. If I’m not driving the Dually Diesel F350 I’m driving this..
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tuxedo Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Pale Adobe
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- T1181AA
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ET1DKE51336
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Forest Lake FordReviews
Forest Lake Ford review
Absolutely amazing service center, I was so impressed with how quickly they were able to get me in and get everything done for a great price! The new facility is beautiful and will definitely be using them in the future!!! 6 out of 5 stars if possible, I couldn't have asked for a better experience!
2013 Ford F-150 review
Great buy, maintenance package of good quality more of why I trust ford. Flex fuel a great idea reliable cooling and heating. Oh and tires nitrogen flourishes ideas other dealerships.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.8L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- B10209
- VIN
- 5XYP3DHC6MG101183
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Cornerstone Ford ChryslerReviews
Cornerstone Ford Chrysler review
Best experience we've had shopping for a car. I haven't had much experience with car shopping, but my wife has gone to a few dealerships, and has always had a bad experience. The one dealership I did actually go to, was terrible. This one changed how I feel about dealerships. While walking up to the dealership, they already had all the cars I was interested in pulled up to the front of the store. We showed up about 15 minutes early, and Dylan McDowell was immediately available for any questions, concerns, etc. Went on a test drive, and immediately fell in love with the car. Once we got back to the dealer, Dylan again, was extremely helpful, and talked us through everything. Never once seemed pushy or impatient like we've had in the past. Even though we came in on a Saturday, and tried to get in with enough time before close, we still ended up about 15-20 minutes after close, and everyone still remained just as nice, friendly, and helpful, not trying to rush us out. Halfway through this experience, my wife said that she knows where she's buying her next car! Can't recommend this place enough!
2021 Kia Telluride review
Bought this car as a retired couple to travel in. Lots of room for anything you need to carry while traveling or shopping. Also used to do day road trips with two more couples. Easy for us oldies to get in the second and third row seats, or go on outings with up to 7 people. Love the charging ports for everyone in the car. It has been a very dependable vehicle.
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$47,493
Est. $873/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 diesel direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- FD21800T
- VIN
- 3C6UR5DL2LG300770
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake review
Great selection of vehicles sales people were very helpful with no pressure sales tactics also had great service after the sale
2020 RAM 2500 review
My only problem with the truck is when towing my 5th wheel trailer the trailer light goes on and off when the light is I don’t have brakes
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$26,793
Est. $493/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Stellar Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- FE04880
- VIN
- 1GYKNGRSXMZ101193
Features
- Convenience
- Automatic Parking
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake review
Jamie is amazing! Always felt like she was 100 % upfront with everything on the vehicle we were purchasing. Rook did an awesome job working out financing. Would definitely recommend MTH of Forest Lake to everyone! Thanks!
2021 Cadillac XT5 review
Road noise is loud, Water leak in front passenger side during heavy rain or car wash. Engine noise that the tech can’t locate. The XT 5 is a very nice size SUV. For a high end vehicle the warranty should be better in length and milage..
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$46,395
Est. $853/mo Morrie's Forest Lake Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 diesel direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- JG284393
- VIN
- 3C6UR5FL1JG284393
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Morrie's Forest Lake Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Morrie's Forest Lake Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Salesperson Chad was great and Jesse in finance got us through as quick as he could. Love the truck and will definitely go back in the future
2018 RAM 2500 review
MY COLLEGE COLORS. EVERYONE LOVES THE COLORS. THE STYLING IS GREAT. FIRST RAM TRUCK I HAVE EVER OWNED. TOWING MY TRACTOR IS A DREAM. MY SON AND FRIEND HAVE BOTH PURCHED USED RAM DIESEL TRUCKS.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- Black w/Medium Dark Slate
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Twin Turbo Regular Unleaded V-6 3.5 L/213
- Stock #
- VP5160
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E88NFB49760
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
McCarthy Auto WorldReviews
McCarthy Auto World review
Great people to work with. Willing to negotiate a bit on price and trade-in value. I shopped a bit and McCarthy provided a very competitive offer. Friendly and quick on the closing.
2022 Ford F-150 review
On July 26, 2022 I picked up my fourth F150. This one was different. It was the first one I ordered (waited 10 mths.), the most costly and a hybrid. Now, almost a year later, I find I am greatly enjoying the truck. It tows 7000# with ease, is quiet, and the feature set is fantastic. Each rendition of the F150 has been better. I started with the 2009. Nice but heavy. The 2015 was the first aluminum one and I did have some trouble with the brake controller failing and catching fire. The 2017 was great but in its last year it developed a dripping leak when raining in the sunroof that thankfully I was able to fix. It was the best up until this one. The recalls-windshield motor and flickering taillights (LED flash). My motor was fine and the taillights were reprogrammed. I would say that is minor compared to my friend's Red Silverado who in 2015 got a notice that they were catching fire on rear defroster wiring! I haven't had any issues and I am just amazed at the technology. It drove me 200 miles to Tallahassee. I cannot wait for the BlueCruise update supposedly this year. I get about 3mpg better than my 2017 10spd, Ecoboost in town and about 1mpg better on the highway. It varies but that is about the average. Ecoboosts can be thirsty if you want power. They like to cruise so I have learned to get to speed, not crawl up and keep a light foot. I own a truck because I need one to tow my camper and I need one to serve dual purpose as a daily driver too. I find that the Ford F150 fits that bill. I have shopped all the choices on full size pickups. The only other truck, to me, that met my needs with positive factors was the GMC Denali diesel half ton. I was not impressed with the overall package of the Tundra, RAM or Titan. They did not check all the boxes for me. I look for comfort, MPG, engine/power/torque RPM power curve for towing, tow features, style, etc. The hybrid eco and the diesel blow the others away for low RPMs while towing which is torque and that makes for a more enjoyable tow. Less noise , stress, etc. My two finalists also got the best MPG. I leaned toward the hybrid more too because of the current stance on diesels and the DEF and the cost of the fuel compared to regular gas. As a long time sports sedan owner turned trucker, I would tell you to shop. Read and research but some facts, well, aren't facts. I remember my legacy of sports sedans and buying recommended models- LOL. The Lexus- bad radios- all of them on the lot, cyclops brake light bulb not replaceable when blown, BMW 328is coupe- bad electrical battery blew up 2yrs., Infiniti G38 jerking and slamming 8spd. auto transmission on Interstates on quick braking- these were all top rated/reviewed cars and not cheap. I had more trouble with those three than any other vehicles I ever have owned. If you are looking for a truck, a vehicle meant for hauling and towing, then I highly recommend an F150. There is a reason they have such high sales in spite of what some reviews say.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Typhoon Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Lambda II 3.8L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT varia
- Stock #
- FP1939
- VIN
- KM8R2DGE6SU888741
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Forest Lake FordReviews
Forest Lake Ford review
What a great experience! We were able to speak with a salesperson right away. He took us on a pre-planned test drive with a variety of roads. After agreeing to purchase the car, it was only a short time to get all the paperwork in order. Our experience was seamless, and would definitely recommend. A positive side note is that building is new and just improves the experience.
2025 Hyundai PALISADE review
We love our new vehicle!! Very comfortable and it drives great!! Tons of room. Safety features are perfect. We are extremely happy with our purchase
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas V8 5.3L/325
- Stock #
- 46477A
- VIN
- 1GCUDGED8PZ171661
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
McCarthy Auto WorldReviews
McCarthy Auto World review
I purchased my vehicle in February. Mark was a wonderful sales person. He was personable, patient and knowledgeable. There was no pressure. He was thorough and provided all the information I needed to purchase my Terrain. I love it!
2023 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 review
been buying dhevy trucks since 1976 was my 1st truck, now i got a 2022 silverado with a 6.2 last Feb. of 2023,kicked up the computer kicking out 454 horse power to the wheels, still waiting on my tow mirrors dont make the wiring harrness for my modle is the only problem im having with this truck, will never buy any other truck.
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$29,499
Est. $543/mo Cornerstone Ford Chrysler
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- Ext. color
- Silver Mist Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- C7916
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG4RR132714
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Cornerstone Ford ChryslerReviews
Cornerstone Ford Chrysler review
Our experience was great right from beginning. Everyone was very pleasant and inviting not pushy. We were referred to Mr. Rocky and he was not only about the business but truly kind and making sure we were respected and not overwhelmed, while trying to make sure we’re were a good fit for this purchase. Everything want timely and professional, liked not having to have breakfast, lunch and dinner at the dealership. Everyone was kind and very knowledgeable, be blessed!
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$52,000
Est. $956/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Graystone Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 6.2L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- FD11540T2
- VIN
- 5GRGN23858H104606
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake review
These guys were absolutely great and very easy to work with. There wasn’t any pressure and no pushy salesmen. We came over to buy a car from another dealership and things didn’t work out and we didn’t want to leave empty handed. These guys had us in a new car within an hour and a half !
2008 Hummer H2 review
2008 H2 LUX 260000 mi still runs perfect great on and off road. treat yourself. Better gas milage then expected and tight turning. no dash ducks required!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- FP1809
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG2PR552459
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Forest Lake FordReviews
2023 Chrysler Pacifica review
We owned a 2019 Pacifica and traded it (with only 51,000 miles) for a 2023 Pacifica Pinnacle. We traded early because we didn't want a hybrid, yet. This one is Red and gasoline...beautiful. Having a wonderful time, enjoying all its luxuries.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- 26H1995T
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EG2JFD28745
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Walser Hyundai Coon RapidsReviews
Walser Hyundai Coon Rapids review
I did not purches from Walser as the vehicle I went there to see was sold shortly before I arrived. The sales person and I reviewed inventory at multiple Walser dealerships. I was looking for very specific vehicles and they did not have any more in stock.
2018 Ford F-150 review
Eight years in my Ford truck. I love it. I looked at GM trucks (Chevy & GMC), still nowhere nears as comfortable as a Ford. Yes I’ve had all the known issues but carried warranties for my truck so transmission has been overhauled. Cam phasers twice (Covered by Ford one and Warranty 2nd time). Just overhauled the front end (bushings, control arm assembly, etc…). Truck still runs like new and rides even better now than when I bought, she is finally broken in and I love my truck. For taller drivers like me, Ford is way to go. Ford has more cabin space than any other truck out there. Ford trucks have the best styling and more towing capacity than anything else in the mkt. Next truck will either be a Raptor or F-250 super duty.
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$44,693
Est. $822/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Caramel/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unleaded, eng
- Stock #
- FD16700T
- VIN
- 2C4RC1PG1NR126369
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
2022 Chrysler Pacifica review
I have owned dozens of cars, trucks and minivans. This vehicle is the most versatile of them all. The V6 AWD is great on the hwy. And the steering is nimble in street driving. I would recommend to anyone to purchase. Stow and Go seats are best in class.
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- Ext. color
- Quicksilver Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 5.3L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 10427B
- VIN
- 1GTU9BEDXLZ170767
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Princeton Auto CenterReviews
Princeton Auto Center review
My buying experience went very well. Josh was attentive to all my questions and concerns. Very easy to work with and gracious with the final price of my vehicle. I highly recommend this business to anyone looking to make a car purchase.
2020 GMC Sierra 1500 review
Any reviews on this vehicle is not correct. We are first owners and it’s been an excellent truck. We hate to see it go !
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$32,993
Est. $607/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Red Hot
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- TurboMax 2.7L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- FD22070C
- VIN
- 1GCPDBEK5RZ256930
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
2024 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 review
Purchased new vehicle at Hendrix Chevrolet, Charlotte, North Carolina helped by Chadwick, Dana, Brandon,& Nicholas, great hospitality great service. Excellent experience word buy her again
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$45,793
Est. $842/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- INFINITE BLACK MET CC
- Int. color
- SANDSTONE LTH SEAT SURFACES
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- FD21460T
- VIN
- 5LM5J7XC5NGL13662
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
2022 Lincoln Aviator review
I love my aviator reserve. It is so comfortable and easy to handle. It turns on a dime. The ride is smooth and quiet. I do miss the luxury of my black label navigator but in comparison, the aviator is much easier to handle and park because of its size. We have had many recalls, but no issues otherwise with our vehicle. I am proud to on this vehicle and I love driving it.
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$20,990
Est. $386/mo Princeton Auto Center
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- Ext. color
- Tungsten Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic Electronic with Overdrive
- Engine
- EcoTec3 5.3L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 10608A
- VIN
- 3GCUKREC3FG358264
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Princeton Auto CenterReviews
Princeton Auto Center review
They were efficient and friendly. Process was easy
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 review
Bought my 2015 Silverado in 2023. It’s been a great running truck. It’s roomy and runs very smooth and is very good on gas mileage.
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- Ext. color
- Satin Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas V8 6.2L/376
- Stock #
- 46580A
- VIN
- 3GTU9DEL7NG118650
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
McCarthy Auto WorldReviews
McCarthy Auto World review
Marty Thompson went the extra mile to help me find and learn about my new vehicle. My experience buying a vehicle was positive because of Marty's guidance. Josh Solle (Finance Manager) was professional and knowledgable. I would recommend McCarthy.
2022 GMC Sierra 1500 review
My 2022 GMC Sierra 3.0 Duramax pickup truck is a good truck. I work on a farm and I also drive an hour to see my girlfriend. For the farm, it has excellent towing capability and for the hour long drive to go see my girlfriend, depending on the weather for traveling, I can get up to 35 miles to the gallon!
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$49,499
Est. $910/mo Walser Hyundai Coon Rapids
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoTec3 6.2L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- C2906
- VIN
- 1GCUDEEL6RZ257436
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Walser Hyundai Coon RapidsReviews
Walser Hyundai Coon Rapids review
Excellent service. Natalie was amazing and her manager and the entire crew were really professional, genuinely kind and helped me get the best deal. The the best car purchasing experience I’ve ever had.
2024 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 review
What I am most satisfied with is its color. This matte silver color is matched with silver wheels, which is really unique. The matte texture is very good, and the personality is low-key but full of connotation. I just like not to follow the crowd.
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$60,993
Est. $1,122/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- Titanium Rush Metallic
- Int. color
- Alpine Umber
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duramax 3L I-6 diesel direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- FE03820C
- VIN
- 1GTUUHE86PZ122516
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake review
Just bought my second truck from MTH at the Forest Lake location. Jamie is a special breed of a person!! Not only did her and Rook take amazing care of me through the whole process, the whole staff including the young man who was detailing my truck were wonderful! I will never buy another truck/vehicle from another dealer again!!!
2023 GMC Sierra 1500 review
I own a 2023 Sierra 1500 Elevation equipped with the 2.7L TurboMax, and it’s been outstanding. It currently has 23,000 flawless miles. I’ll admit, I was skeptical of the 2.7 at first, but I jumped in feet-first and have never looked back. Living in Colorado, I regularly tow a 5,000-pound travel trailer through the Rockies with zero performance issues. The truck pulls confidently, handles grades with ease, and still delivers impressive fuel economy—23–24 mpg on the highway and about 18 mpg in town. I couldn’t be happier with this setup. If there is a negative to mention, that would be that after three years of ownership, the black wheels havent grown on me, and Im beginning to hate em. :) Lastly, the mpg while towing drops to 9mpg which is similar to that of a V8. All said, its been a great truck. :)
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P12458
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN5PM545726
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Carlson ToyotaReviews
Carlson Toyota review
Sara P. was our salesperson. She was very helpful, courteous, and informative. She spent time answering all of our questions and options that would meet our needs for purchase. Once vehicle was purchased she spent time helping us get acclimated to the new vehicle. She was excellent!
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
Best mid size truck hands down!! Very reliable and handling is incredible. The V6 in this truck is a beast! Bullet proof!!!! Plenty of power for this truck 👍 it’s not a race car, it’s a beast of a 4X4 and has enough power to get the job done.
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$60,693
Est. $1,116/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest Lake
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- Ext. color
- INFINITE BLACK MET CC
- Int. color
- LTHR SEATING SURF BLACK ONYX
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, tw
- Stock #
- FE01380S
- VIN
- 5LMJJ2LG5REL07095
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of Forest LakeReviews
2024 Lincoln Navigator review
I purchased 2024 Lincoln Navigator few weeks ago. After researching the Mercedes GLS 450, BMW X7, Audi Q7, my intention was to purchase the Mercedes GLS 450. On the day to make a decision, I decided to test drive the Lincoln Navigator. Once inside the Navigator, the interior space, materials, and comfort immediately put the brakes on the Mercedes. The seats for the driver and passenger were the most comfortable I'd sat in (30 way adjustable). The amount for wood detail, gave the cabin a rich feel. Lincoln's decision to keep buttons and nobs to control basic functions like climate control, music volume and seat comfort like heating and ventilation were a real plus. The trend recently is for auto makers to use larger digital touch screens to control many if not all the functions in the car. ( Range Rover sport, Telsa SUV's). The second row captain chairs with the center consul felt more like a lounge area, plenty of room. The main difference between the cars I evaluated was the ride. I found that I liked the higher and larger driving presence on the road. I will say the Mercedes GLS had a smoother ride and the BMW had a more agile driving experience. However , the independent suspension system with road anticipation technology in the Navigator provided a smooth and comfortable ride. The technology on board the Navigator make driving this full size SUV very easy. At the end of the day, I realized, I wanted a comfortable, spacious, well appointed SUV, and Lincoln Navigator "checked" all the boxes.
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- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- FP1980
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F3XPA036345
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Forest Lake FordReviews
Forest Lake Ford review
Service department is excellent! We purchased a vehicle from a Ford dealership in Bloomington. Upon driving off the lot, we felt brakes felt funny. We immediately turned around. The dealership said they could not look at it for two weeks. Problem was we were driving it out to CA to my son, active duty military. Dealership was aware. So, I called Forest Lake Ford, this was on a Friday. Explained the situation. Upon hearing my son was active duty, we were leaving the next day, they told us to bring it in. They fit us in! Even gave me a flower! THEY took the time, THEY cared! I now take my personal Ford Edge to them! Top notch!!
2023 Honda Accord review
Good car good buying process just wobbles a little at around 70-80 mph while on highway. Might just be a small alignment with only my car may not be a consistent problem.
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Dark Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 4581557
- VIN
- 2T1BU4EE1BC581557
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Corwin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Corwin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
GREAT EXPERIENCE ! PERRY STAGL WAS FANTASTIC, WELL AS ALL THE OTHER STAFF. WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS DEALERSHIP TO ANYONE. THANK YOU TO ALL !!!
2011 Toyota Corolla review
I am very happy and very excited about this Corolla because it is very comfortable and economical on gasoline and an excellent vehicle. And I recommend it to my friends and everyone that this Toyota Corolla is very excellent and very comfortable.
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$8,500
Est. $156/mo Corwin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black MB Tex
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 4108721
- VIN
- WDCGG8JB4DG108721
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Corwin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Corwin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Armin went above and beyond to get me what I wanted at the price that fit my budget! He kept me updated on the process every day with phone calls , texts, and emails. He was nothing but a pure professional.
2013 Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class review
i am the recent second owner from a family member that purchased new in 2013 and put 47k miles over 9 years. it is a comfortable& powerful. it has an attractive muscular design unlike all its competitors of its age as well as most now. not everyone wants a vehicle that is so similarly rounded as most the others. no wonder MB designed a boxier suv in the GLB. though the GLB is a turbo 4cyl fwd, making it less desirable imo.