Used Ford cars for sale near Rush, NY
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 12-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.2L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled supercharger,
- Stock #
- WP11101
- VIN
- 1FA6P8SJ0M5500832
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Vision Nissan of WebsterReviews
Vision Nissan of Webster review
We just wanted to take a moment to share our wonderful experience purchasing our new vehicle from your dealership. From start to finish, the process was smooth, professional, and stress-free. A special thank you to Molly, who went above and beyond to ensure we found the right vehicle. She was incredibly knowledgeable, patient, and made the entire experience enjoyable. She took the time to explain all the features of the car, answered all our questions, and never made us feel pressured. The financing process was also seamless, with everything explained clearly and handled efficiently. When we picked up our car, it was spotless and ready to go, making the final delivery feel even more special. We truly appreciate the outstanding customer service we received. Thank you!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ingot Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- M260820196T1
- VIN
- 1FTFX1E4XKKE55629
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision Hyundai Mitsubishi WebsterReviews
Vision Hyundai Mitsubishi Webster review
Sales representative knowledgeable about viechles use an new certified work with you on $ opions color trade in value up front. Test drive it alone wow does not insist. _3rd Hyundai 2 new ones 3rd certified first one hybrid gas . Up front on everything and service department also. A+ rating.
2019 Ford F-150 review
Best car ever out of Ferrari , Lamborghini, MB , BMW. Perfect for snow , rain & sun. All weather type or vehicle. I want the R perfect for business , pleasure & fun
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Medium Dark Slate
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- V6 Cylinder Engine
- Stock #
- PJ00838
- VIN
- 1FTFW3L86SKD97930
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jessica ChevroletReviews
Jessica Chevrolet review
Karen helped us immediately in a friendly manner without being pushy, which is wonderful. We enjoyed good conversation with her and the owner. All the time consuming paperwork was handled by Karen so I did not have to deal with any of that. When we came to pick up the vehicle, the signing of the documents was a quick process and no one tried to push additional charges on us!! It was a great experience and I'm so glad we made the hour long trip to Molye.
2025 Ford F-150 review
Very nice truck. Full comfort platinum. Full power 3.5 Ecoboost with performance package. Smooth and fast. Now let see if it gets to my 2012 F150 FX4 with 150000 miles and still great!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE JEANS
- Int. color
- MED GRAY CLOTH 40CONSOLE40
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- V2605185T1
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EP1JFB66462
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision ChevroletReviews
2018 Ford F-150 review
Eight years in my Ford truck. I love it. I looked at GM trucks (Chevy & GMC), still nowhere nears as comfortable as a Ford. Yes I’ve had all the known issues but carried warranties for my truck so transmission has been overhauled. Cam phasers twice (Covered by Ford one and Warranty 2nd time). Just overhauled the front end (bushings, control arm assembly, etc…). Truck still runs like new and rides even better now than when I bought, she is finally broken in and I love my truck. For taller drivers like me, Ford is way to go. Ford has more cabin space than any other truck out there. Ford trucks have the best styling and more towing capacity than anything else in the mkt. Next truck will either be a Raptor or F-250 super duty.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Moondust Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- K26081392T1
- VIN
- MAJ6S3GL8MC404017
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision Kia CanandaiguaReviews
2021 Ford EcoSport review
My favourite car ever. Great inside and out. The rear wiper is perfect as are the front wipers, although it's easy to accidentally activate them. You'll need to adjust your seat for a perfect fit, bit once you find it, it's great. The bank seat could use more legroom, but otherwise it's great.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Antimatter Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- 26T1055A
- VIN
- 1FTEW3LP1RKF47908
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Hoselton AutoMallReviews
Hoselton AutoMall review
Excellent experience in selling my vehicle to Hoselton and in working with Gwen in sales and acquisitions. The offer was very fair, the process was simple and efficient exactly as I was told it would be. I brought the vehicle in, signed over the title and 15 minutes later had a check in hand.
2024 Ford F-150 review
My Raptor experience has been excellent. Very comfortable, handles fantastic. Great pedal response. Towing ability has been very responsive handlles great during Towing. Have not had a single problem. Only drawback might be price tag.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-23
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- 29134644
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ED2PFC75001
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax RochesterReviews
CarMax Rochester review
The Transfer process was unfriendly. The vehicle I was interested in had to be released from My hold and I had to wait until it came back on the website to request s transfer.
2023 Ford F-150 review
My experience is very positive. Great looks. Great power. Fit finish inside and out first class. Handling on road no complaints. Off road the truck is a beast. 34” tires help appearance and ground clearance. I think it’s the right choice in this segment of trucks. But man the recalls blow. This axle bolt half shaft one has taken forever to get done. It kinda throws manure on a great truck. Other than that it’s a keeper ! The ecoboost 3.5 is really strong. It also sounds like a small V6 which is not so great. As long as it keeps small V6ing and doesn’t break I’m good. But no coyote sound check needed. The paint is maybe the biggest surprise. It’s really good. Interior highlights are just normal comfortable observations. Nothing over the top but adequate. It handles deep snow well. It handles 75 mph in 100 degree heat well. It’s smooth sleek and fast. Stopping power is real good. I’d buy another one for sure. It has the recall issues but they all do so that’s all l gotta say about that.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Shadow Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- G260506331T1
- VIN
- 3FMCR9B62NRD54890
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision Nissan GreeceReviews
2022 Ford Bronco Sport review
I have a '22 Base. My wife and I love it. We needed a 4x4 when we move to a more rural state and although we're generally happy with the vehicle, we can't help roll our eyes of the number of recalls and reliability questions surrounding the model. Had I known about the difference in the 1.5L to 2L engines, I'd have opted for the 2L engines, but that's only available at the top trimmed Badlands. This is almost the perfect vehicle for a two person household who has a dog, likes to take day trips and it pretty good on fuel economy (32mpg over 15k miles). The interior is pretty cheap, however. I would recommend the vehicle, however, but only with the 2L engine and only with a warranty. There are just too many concerns with this vehicle to own it without a warranty
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Eruption Green Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- VX10066
- VIN
- 3FMCR9B67PRD71056
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision ChevroletReviews
2023 Ford Bronco Sport review
Bought new. 50k on the odometer. Nothing of any concern has happened and Ford has a generous 10k miles between maintenance intervals. Stock tires on the Badlands did not last anywhere near their projected life. With the new tires I’m getting around 28mpg now. The badlands GOAT modes have gotten me through a lot of OHV trails and forest roads. The suspension articulates well. Anything I’ve dared to ask it do it has done.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iconic Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-37
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- eCVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 DOHC, iVCT variable valve control, regular unleaded, en
- Stock #
- VX10068
- VIN
- 1FMCU9DZ2NUA29025
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Vision ChevroletReviews
2022 Ford Escape review
I purchased used '22 Escape SE AWD two years old, low mileage and delighted with my dealer purchase. Upon extensive research, I was aware the loss of market value, which is why I purchased used. This vehicle is produced in volume as 'low-end' entry among 22 field competitors. Yes, there are several vehicles out there higher rated, more expensive, but my research validated highest cargo storage - highest mpg, for the reasonable market price. You can benefit from this depreciation by buying used! Some complain of the transmission, or slow pickup, or passenger door side panels. I have had no issues after 20,000 miles 6/2024 and get 31.3 mpg combined which is stellar!! A great value for the used car price-not new price. I would recommend as a reasonable value, HIGH capacity SUV can accommodate 4 airport passengers full size luggage is my first Ford of 21 cars purchased. Styling is very attractive, good assortment of safety features. Rear seats slide for extended passenger or cargo capacity.
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$69,162
Est. $1,273/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bronze Metallic
- Int. color
- Baja
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L V8 32V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- FC2584A
- VIN
- 1FT8W3BT0REF06020
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY) -
$55,483
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$54,395
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Performance Red Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.6L V-8 regular unleaded, engine with 260HP
- Stock #
- 119672
- VIN
- 1FAFP42X9YF119672
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Jacob's Auto SalesReviews
Jacob's Auto Sales review
The business itself is very fair, people are very friendly, cars are clean and well maintained, and they give good deals for the cars given. They have a wide selection of cars that are all fairly priced and looking nice. I would highly recommend going to this dealership if you need a car for good deals.
2000 Ford Mustang review
This has been the best car I have ever had. Little over 300,000 miles and still going strong. Regular maintenance no real issues with it.
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$14,661
Est. $270/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sea Green
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- FC2617A1
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J96KBC14243
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2019 Ford Edge review
It's a nice vehicle. Roomy. Great features. The trunk has a lot of food. Lots of head room and leg room. Would recommend this vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Star White Metallic Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- A260731336T1
- VIN
- 2FMPK4K97PBA08046
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Vision Hyundai CanandaiguaReviews
Vision Hyundai Canandaigua review
I HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH VISION HYUNDAI, GREAT SELECTION GREAT SALES STAFF. VERY FRIENDLY. I WENT THERE TO BUY A PRE OWNED CERTIFIED TUCSON AND WAS ABLE TO GET IN NEGOTIATE A GREAT DEAL AND OUT WITH MY NEW CAR WITH EASE.
2023 Ford Edge review
I bought this vehicle in December of 2023, and I have been pleased with the performance and the room inside the car. The boot (trunk) has lots of space. The silver paint with the black wheels looks really sharp. The best appeal for me to purchase this vehicle is that it's reported to rarely need to be in the shop for repairs. It's always been my experience that if you take care of your vehicle then it will perform well.
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$9,674
Est. $178/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ingot Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- TC0019A
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ET9BFC56297
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2011 Ford F-150 review
I own 2 F150’s from 2011 with 5.0. Bought new. Lariat has 53,000 miles, XL has 118,000 miles. Basic maintenance and have had NO issues. The XL is a work truck and I’ve been rough with it. They are very dependable. The low tire pressure sensor stay lit up on the gauges. Nothing wrong, but I refuse to pay $145. to turn off the display icon on the instrument cluster. Those trucks were worth it.
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$24,678
Est. $454/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.3L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- GC7074A
- VIN
- 1FTER4FH5LLA36981
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2020 Ford Ranger review
I really like the eco boost makes the truck get up and go and the ride is smooth and comfortable and has a lot of functionality inside and outside the vehicle and I really like the style of the inside and outside of the truck this truck drives great
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$42,628
Est. $785/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- BF2523
- VIN
- 1FMJU2A8XREA50859
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2024 Ford Expedition review
Purchased new July 5, 2024 now have approx 16,000 miles recently took a trip that was total 4,000 miles. Wife states as the most comfortable vehicle she’s ever had especially on this long trip pulling a 6x12 enclosed motorcycle trailer from Chicago to Scottsdale, AZ. Nimble handling even in the mountains and plenty of power! 5 Stars Ford!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variab
- Stock #
- GFC66391STK
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EPXGFC66391
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
WNY Auto SalesReviews
2016 Ford F-150 review
2016 is a good yr since there is limited electronic safety features. Truck has excellent ride, is quiet and gets great gas mileage with the 2.7 liter V6. My F150 has a 36 gallon tank and I've gotten over 1000 miles per fill up.
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$40,608
Est. $748/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- BF2526
- VIN
- 1FMJK1J85REA09605
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2024 Ford Expedition Max review
Previous minivan owner we didn’t realize we had out grown our minivan till we realized the amount of space in our new truck. We have 4 active kids from 5-15 that are in multiple sports. We travel a fair amount both to the airport and on road trips. So our new vehicle needed to get all of us and luggage wherever we’re going. So far this is doing it.
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$29,990
Est. $552/mo Vision Nissan of Canandaigua
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- Ext. color
- Robins Egg Blue
- Int. color
- Navy Pier
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- N260904126T1
- VIN
- 3FMCR9G61RRE19808
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision Nissan of CanandaiguaReviews
Vision Nissan of Canandaigua review
My daughter purchased a used Honda CRV here about 2 months ago. There were a few minor issues with the car that were repaired prior to the purchase. That was done as promised. However about 2 weeks after taking possession of the car the safety features were disabled and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree. We brought it back and they had their service Dept. work on it. Fast forward a few days after that repair and it happened again. They took it in and ended up replacing the radar system and re-calibrating the safety features. They did all of this at no cost to us. Manager Thomas Conradt and salesperson, Rachel stack were great throughout the process. They took care of us as they said they would. In todays world of getting stiffed by seemingly everyone, this restored our faith in humanity. Vision Nissan was great! I'd buy another vehicle from them in a heartbeat. In addition to this, they gave us a good price on the car and a fair value for our trade. If you're looking for a car head over there and talk to them. They can help you.
2024 Ford Bronco Sport review
Great overall small SUV. Good styling, and a more truck feel than most small SUV's. Nice road feel. And good color selection. Definitely recommend this one.
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$31,173
Est. $574/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.3L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- BF2488
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DH7RGA81726
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2024 Ford Explorer review
great comfortable car. Beautiful color, excellent trim options and reasonable fuel economy. Third row seating is there if you need it otherwise plenty of room for shopping groceries
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$33,595
Est. $619/mo Auto Outlets of Farmington & Electric Car Corner
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Avalanche
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- C10122
- VIN
- 1FTEX1EPXPKF87819
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto Outlets of Farmington & Electric Car CornerReviews
2023 Ford F-150 review
THIS TRUCK IS QUIET, POWERFUL HAS SPACIOUS REAR SEATING, LOTS OF STORAGE AND ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES YOU NEED PLUS A WONDERFUL MUSIC SOUND SYSTEM. THE BLUE CRUISE IS FANTASTIC
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$11,670
Est. $215/mo Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Chili Pepper Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-34
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- TC0110A
- VIN
- 1FADP3M22JL240618
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nye Automotive Group - Delivery from Oneida, NY (for Rochester, NY)Reviews
2018 Ford Focus review
Purchased a used 2018 with 35K miles in 2023. I now have 75K miles as it's a commuter car, about 90 miles a day. I average almost 41 mpg going from Pueblo to Colorado Springs and back. The CVT was a bit suspect when I first got it, but I think the driving has corrected the 3rd gear delay. The CVT is hands down better than my Altima. One year that car was gone, total junk.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Medium Light Camel
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5L V-8 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- N26629A
- VIN
- 1FTEW1E50KFA32249
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Toyota of BataviaReviews
Toyota of Batavia review
Leon H. is absolutely a great salesman, as we have bought 6 cars from.. He is always treated us very well and we wouldn't go to any other dealership or saleman...
2019 Ford F-150 review
I should have gotten a 4 wheel drive to begin with. Traded in a 2018 F-150 STX 2X4 that was a nice truck but this is definitely an upgrade! The 3.5L accelerates quickly (beware leadfoot!) and pulls much easier than the 2.7L I traded away. Little difference in fuel mileage (I'm averaging around 1.4 mpg less with the larger engine) but worth the trade off. The interior is loaded with power, heated seats (both), upgraded navigation system and better quality stereo system. Heated mirrors and sliding rear window are a nice touch. This is my first 4X4 and it was really surprised at the torque output pulling out a couple of small trees and hauling away a 65' pine we had cut down. Much easier and more powerful than the 2.7L offered! Got it with low mileage and a pretty decent trade-in deal too. Think I'll keep it until the wheels fall off!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black w/Medium Dark Slate
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- V6 Cylinder Engine
- Stock #
- HZ1065
- VIN
- 1FTFW3L82SKE94574
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Bob Johnson UsedReviews
Bob Johnson Used review
My sales man was the best!! Everyone was very nice and happy to help with my new purchase!! Shout out to Cole and Randy they got the job done for me while I didn’t have to do much work but show up and pull off with my new car!!
2025 Ford F-150 review
I purchased a new 2025 XLT powerboost about a month ago. Got around 1500 miles on it. The overall performance of the truck is awesome. Its a good looking truck. I have added tint windows, hard bed cover and I am getting the upgraded leather package for it as well. The gas mileage is great and with hybrid it gets even better. The handling is good. The stop & go is also great. I went from a 2020 Nissan Titan to this F150 and must say I am impressed overall with the truck. I happy about the warranty that ford provided and look to maybe get the extended warranty when the time comes.
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$43,094
Est. $793/mo Vision Nissan of Canandaigua
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- NW10717
- VIN
- 1FTBR2C85SKB03384
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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$19,990
Est. $368/mo Cortese Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Mitsubis
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 70021A
- VIN
- 2FMHK6D80KBA21914
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Cortese Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram MitsubisReviews
Cortese Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Mitsubis review
Bob Harmor was very professional and answered all my questions and got me the best deal on my jeep!
2019 Ford Flex review
I had a 2019 Ford Flex and I loved it soooo much! Once I reached 130,000 miles without any problems whatsoever, it was time to get another car. I found out that the Flex was discontinued! I loved it so much that I found a used 2019 Flex with 7,000 miles and I was so happy!! I am so disappointed that this model was discontinued! It was great in ND snow (never got stuck); great mileage; lots of room; comfortable; navigation; back up sensors, etc. Please bring the Ford Flex back!! In the 38 years since I was married and had 5 kids, this has been the BEST vehicle so far!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Azure Gray Metallic Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Dark Space Gray w/Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-21.00
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variab
- Stock #
- L6155
- VIN
- 1FMDE7BH6SLB79673
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Van Bortel FordReviews
Van Bortel Ford review
BEST SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND EMPLOYEES EVER!!!! THEY ARE ON THE BALL ALWAYS.Thank You Everyone!!!
2025 Ford Bronco review
With about 3500 miles at this point, the Broco has been a great vehicle. Very reliable and enjoyable to drive. It is the Outer Banks trim package which provides a good level of options. The V6 provides good performance.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable
- Stock #
- C26062028T1
- VIN
- 3FTTW8A92RRA63721
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Vision Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Vision Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Josh was great John was great Andrew was great Drove from Long Island to pick up a new truck and trade in a truck quick easy transaction will definitely use again Thank you Anthony
2024 Ford Maverick review
Only has had one glitch, the passenger window switch died after about a month, but that's what the warranty is for, and they fixed it. The hybrid is rated at 38 mpg I think, but I'm getting closer to 48, I log my mileage, so that's a reliable number. Front wheel drive so you don't have the light rear end traction issues. Feels and drives more like a car, but when you want to load stuff the bed is there. Unless you want a big heavy duty truck, which it isn't, there's nothing not to love about it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- PC5963
- VIN
- 3FMTK3SU3SMA00451
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Cortese Ford LincolnReviews
Cortese Ford Lincoln review
J Burnette was my go to guy .Knows his stuff and is very cordial. The estimate was fairly priced and to my surprise the final cost was even less than the estimate. Pinch me . Had the Navigator back for a week and runs perfectly. So here it is Good people Extremely honest ,thorough, and they keep you up to date on your repairs Would NEVER go elsewhere Joe Stavalone
2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
Exterior interior design of this car is absolutely fantastic! I got the premium edition with the premium interior and performance package, including special front air, dam, and Brembo brakes in the front. I couldn’t be happier with this car and in love with it!!! the front seats are a little stiff. Maybe that’s because it only has 5000 miles on it? I just completed a 300 mile trip and loved every mile.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- LEA42853
- VIN
- 1FMJU1LT9LEA42853
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Excel Auto LoungeReviews
Excel Auto Lounge review
The whole deal took literally a couple of hours, and everything took place in the most calm and comfortable atmosphere. The service is at the highest level, not a single negative thing. The consultants really help you choose a car, and do not pressure you with their opinion.
2020 Ford Expedition review
2020 Ford Expedition was purchased Feb 2020 (Springfield Va). I started having transmission problems Jun 2020 (15,000 miles). I informed my service representative what was occurring during an oil change and she informed that she would have a transmission specialist look at it. I was given the all ok and l departed, but my transmission is still producing a rattling sound and it buck's when l go from park to drive, also when it changes gears it slips from time yo time. This is my Fourth new Expedition and l have never experienced anything like this. I have made 4 request that they check my transmission and it has always come back (No problem). Oct 2022 l received a call from the service department stating that my truck hadn't been in over a year. I indicated to them that l was last in for an oil change with them, April 2022. Not only did they not have records showing my oil changes, but they didn't record any of my complaints about my transmission. I took my truck to AAMCO and they indicated that it was an electrical component ( brains of the trans) that was faulty and that l needed to return to Ford to repair. I attempted to have this resolved before my warranty expired and now l have no warranty on it because l'm at 95K miles on my truck. I know that there is a recall on 2015-2019 Ford Expedition for faulty transmission gear box. I'm experiencing the exact same issue with my transmission. Vin #1MJK1JT8LEA27351 Model: XLT Max Grey
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- H26042268T1
- VIN
- 1FM5K8HT3KGA78209
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Vision Hyundai HenriettaReviews
Vision Hyundai Henrietta review
I have leased many cars in the past but this experience with Evan and Russell at Vision Hyundai of Henrietta was by far the most pleasant, stress free experience ever. Evan never put any pressure on me and came up with a deal that far outweighed even my best expectations! He is an honest, kind young man and has earned my business for life! Thank you Evan and Russell and the entire team at Vision for such exceptional service!
2019 Ford Explorer review
Love this vehicle!! Went from 2013 Chevy Malibu to this 2019 fully loaded Ford Explorer. Love the navigation, hands free phone, auto bright lights and Windsheild washer, remote start, sun roofs, back up camera, luggage racks, hitch andtowing capabilities, 3rd row seating and stowing, the Ford app, the Ford warranty, leather heated seats and steering wheel, and all the safety and other luxury accessories.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 6
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70188971
- VIN
- 1FA6P8CF3R5415226
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax AlbanyReviews
CarMax Albany review
My boyfriend and I don't speak English very well. But the assistants in Carmax are very patient. They helped us a lot. We bought the BMW x3 and are satisfied with it.
2024 Ford Mustang review
I just purchased the 2024 rapid red turbo. I love the mode change and it has that great sound as you pull away from others. Great take off and smooth ride. The only negative and it is very slight-- it that it is difficult to change the temp, and my Sirus does not have all features. This is my 4th mustang, with my first being the very small box shape. Every model gets better