Used Honda cars for sale near Maili, HI
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- 49151A
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H40RH402231
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2024 Honda CR-V review
My CR-V EXL is outstanding overall. It was a little pricy but worth it so far. I have over 11,000 miles on it in a little over a year.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC (w/VTC) variable valve c
- Stock #
- L0365
- VIN
- 5FNYG1H6XRB029100
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2024 Honda Pilot review
buy this car because l love this car my friend and everything I just love this car so much dearly so you need to buy it
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- L0370
- VIN
- 7FARS5H85RE011992
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
Purchased a 2024 White CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid in September 2023. 8 months in to driving it and 10k miles later, I can say with confidence this is the best car I have ever owned. This is the first hybrid I have ever driven, and it drives/glides ever so smooth compared to the gas cars of my past. The finish and tech of the Touring really feels luxurious and makes going on long drives something to look forward to. I average anywhere between 32 and 38 mpg per tank of gas, depending on how much I am on the highway. My lone criticism of this vehicle is how much it struggles to go uphill, so much so that I would not recommend this vehicle to anyone who lives in the mountains. I live somewhere relatively flat so this is not much of an issue.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- L0366
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F38PA043505
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2023 Honda Accord review
Good car good buying process just wobbles a little at around 70-80 mph while on highway. Might just be a small alignment with only my car may not be a consistent problem.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 49253A
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H67FB001144
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2015 Honda Odyssey review
We have only owned the vehicle for 3 days. But so far it seems like a great vehicle! Lots of room, comfortable, easy driving, lots of features including back up camera, passenger side cameras, and land departure warning system.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Urban Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 49291A
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H54RM721371
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2024 Honda HR-V review
Love how car handles. The HRV is wonderful on traveling bc I have arthritis and it was a pleasure to drive on long trips. It’s smooth riding and an attractive car. It is easier to get into than the CRV bc I am short (5’2) so I had to climb up into CRV but not HRV.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- 49268A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H61TB002811
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
Honda Windward review
Justin and team as always provided the best service for routine maintenance and safety check.
2026 Honda Odyssey review
We had a 2019 that was a good car, but we decided to upgrade to a 2026. We love it. The only problem we had was the A/C wasn't blowing cold. For some reason it was over charged. But that has been fixed and we are loving it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC VCM variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 49230A
- VIN
- 5FNYF7H57LB001646
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2020 Honda Passport review
I have one suggestion, add a fan switch on the steering wheel, it’s had to adjust while driving because the buttons are hard to see. The seat crevice between the center are hard to get into to clean or if something falls in you have to get a stick for help. One major problem is the air conditioner compressor died, the car is only 6years old. 60k miles.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 49256B
- VIN
- 1HGCV1F38NA050802
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2022 Honda Accord review
Best car I'll probably ever own. Honda puts their details together nicely, i always appreciate how easy and accessible everything is. Can't go wrong, but i wouldn't buy a hybrid
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 31-40
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- 49184A
- VIN
- SHHFK7H50JU411817
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2018 Honda Civic review
I have had my car for a few years now. I have 102k on it now. I took it in for the A/C recall and Fuel pump. My injectors were replaced as part of the fuel pump recall. I have had zero other issues, all was paid for. I am as happy with it now as I have ever been. I get a constant 35MPG combined and it has 205hp with excellent handling. I’m old, I’ve had a lot of cars. This is truly an engineering marvel. How could you get this mileage and power for that price? Do your research. I drive it very aggressively in so cal canyons etc and it makes me smile.. that alone is worth the reasonable price. Mine is stock, but my warranty just ended at 100k so stay tuned……
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- 49261A
- VIN
- 2HKRS3H22RH308683
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda WindwardReviews
2024 Honda CR-V review
Can't enjoy music or conversation while driving due to road and outside noise. I'm used to a Ford f150 that is very comfortable and quiet.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Spa Yellow Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 008857
- VIN
- JHMAP11431T008857
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
The Car LotReviews
The Car Lot review
Great variety of car's, they work many ways to make sure you get what you one and love, make sure you get happy with the car and also car payments. No credit, low payments, no matter the hiccups they will find a solution. Very positive, happy, respectful environment, Absolutely amazing team work.. I can't thank you enough EJ,Mario, Adrien and everyone else ❤️😇
2001 Honda S2000 review
After many years of wondering what was so special about this vehicle, I decided to take the plunge and get one for myself. They are not cheap for good clean models. I went with the 2nd generation the AP2 as it’s referred to. Got in the Rio yellow Pearl. Well I can say I finally get it. The driving experience is pure joy the ride comfort is very very acceptable. The turning Ability is precision and I just love hearing that little high revving four-cylinder engine wind up. Did I mention It’s also a convertible.. I’m not disappointed at all that it doesn’t have all the modern convenience of the newer vehicles. It actually makes the drive that much more enjoyable. No wonder it’s held its value so well.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mountain Air Metallic
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- MP12558
- VIN
- 5J6RM3H78DL022034
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarizonaReviews
Carizona review
I’m not one to praise car dealerships but my experience with Carizona has earned it. Sales guy AJ was great. No xx, no pressure, all good vibes. Same with the manager and the finance team.
2013 Honda CR-V review
Excellent car. Almost no trouble in 13 years of ownership. Extremely reliable. Easy to maintain. Only complaint is that it is noisier than I would like on the highway.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 9 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- MB042290A
- VIN
- 5FNYF5H27MB042290
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2021 Honda Pilot review
Coleman and Kyle at Honda Hendrick were both amazing they really worked with us to get us the vehicle we wanted at the rate we were aiming for, I’m so very appreciative and would recommend them both to anyone looking for a new car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RA027874A
- VIN
- 1HGCY2F79RA027874
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2024 Honda Accord Hybrid review
Very nice car. My previous was a 2020 Accord. This hybrid Accord Sport L is way better. Do not get me wrong. The 2020 is a very good car. Someone is quite happy with it, no doubts. I recommend buying a spare. I chose Modern Spare. Spendy. Great quality. Hope I never use it. The spare fits underneath the trunk where the inflator is. Just remove the foam. Comes with everything you need plus a threaded plate to secure it. All fits in and around the spare. Plus, I got jumper cables in there. We think the car is quiet. I notice others think not. Plenty of power. Mileage I have gotten is much better than what it is rated at. Love the paddles. Fake down shifters. Much less use of brakes for lights and stop signs. Planning to keep this car for quite awhile.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- 9 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- NB046682A
- VIN
- 5FNYF6H21NB046682
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
Island Honda review
Melissa Barauidan was so nice and helpful. She explainde all options and made me feel comfortable while I purchased my auto.
2022 Honda Pilot review
We decided on the Trail Sport. We live in mountains of SW Montana on a dirt road, off a gravel forest service access rd. We also transport elderly women from our church, so needed a 3rd row for seating. It's been a reliable, comfortable ride. Easy for the ladies to get in & out of. My hubby & I are sure enjoying the comfort level of this pilot. One of the great features is being able to adjust the traction to mud & snow.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Obsidian Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- 10 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- RB003822A
- VIN
- 5FNYG2H40RB003822
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
Island Honda review
Melissa was exceptionally helpful in getting everything I needed taken care of and in a quick, concise, and timely manner. She was also friendly, entertaining, and personable.
2024 Honda Pilot review
After almost 180,000 trouble-free miles with our 2015 Pilot and an excellent Honda dealer near by, we really didn’t look hard at anything but another Pilot when it was time for a new car. Our EXL, purchased in March 2024, just turned 20,000 miles. We have had no issues with it, and the trip computer says we have averaged 27.1 mpg over the last 5500 miles. That is about 4.5 mpg better than the 2015. The good: It is extremely roomy and comfortable, even the third-row seats. We are very pleased with the fuel economy for a vehicle of this size. The headlights are the best we’ve had on any vehicle. I really like the rugged looks, especially compared the the previous generation. It’s great on snowy and slippery surfaces. The not-as-good: This is my first vehicle with all the modern safety aids. I find the lane-departure system annoying, especially in construction zones. The first time I backed out of the garage with bikes on a hitch-mounted carrier, the car automatically slammed on the brakes so hard I thought I ran into something. (Pro tip: Use tow mode when hauling bikes.) I don’t use the adaptive cruise control because it starts matching the speed of the vehicle ahead long before I would normally change lanes to pass, even with the system adjusted accordingly. However, I can’t see that future vehicles will have FEWER of these features, so I suppose I will just have to get used to them.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Obsidian Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- 9 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- PB016855A
- VIN
- 5FNYF8H59PB016855
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2023 Honda Passport review
Had problems w/ battery draining at 17 months 22,000 miles. Then at 19 months 25000 miles, the audio unit needed replaced. While mine was In the shop, my service consultant had the same problem. Tow truck service told me they've had numerous calls on Passpotrs w/ dead batteries being dead more than once on the same vehicle. Hopefully we've got it fixed.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RM712408A
- VIN
- 3CZRZ1H3XRM712408
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
Island Honda review
Friendly Finance Officer. Justin was quite knowledgeable and helpful. He was patient while I investigated all my options. I love my new, used car.
2024 Honda HR-V review
I have owned my HR-V for about a month. Did have to tint my windows was no big deal. I think it had great power has alot on get up and go. Just the right size for me. Still learning what all the buttons do. Overall I am very pleased. First Honda owned.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Urban Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RH305591A
- VIN
- 2HKRS3H7XRH305591
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2024 Honda CR-V review
Purchased at Lease return, a 2019 with 20k miles, I am at 70k and its been consistent. Gas, Oil change, minor filters, wipers etc. getting average around town 32 MPG on long trips if i stay under or at 70 MPH it gets close to 40 MPG (Its not a hybrid)
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RE005626A
- VIN
- 7FARS5H58RE005626
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
Island Honda review
The staff is always so friendly and knowledgeable. Every time I have been in, they have taken the time to explain what was done.
2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
We purchased a 2024 hybrid sport touring last July 2023. We had been driving a BMW X3 prior to this car. So far I really enjoy the vehicle. It is not a BMW in terms of handling and engine performance. The upside is hopefully it will not cost as much to keep on the road as the BMW. Also gas mileage is pretty amazing for a large vehicle like this. Most of the time we average around 40 miles per gallon around town and 35 or so as long as we're not driving 75 plus miles per hour. The Bose stereo system is great, better than the BMW in my opinion. Even though the sunroof is not panoramic we didn't open the BMW sunroof because if it broke replacing or fixing it would have been three plus thousand dollars!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RA008879A
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F23RA008879
Dealer
Island Honda -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RA044015A
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F24RA044015
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
Island Honda review
Friendly and honest sales people. Speedy service on sales and car was extremely clean and prepared for owner. Would recommend buying a car from island honda to my friends and family.
2024 Honda Accord review
I’m a first time Honda owner and I’m extremely pleased with my purchase. I own a 2024 Accord. I chose it for its safety, functionality, and convenience features. I love it for its sleek style, design, and sophistication.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- 9 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- MB037719A
- VIN
- 5FNYF5H36MB037719
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2021 Honda Pilot review
The Pilot car is a reliable spacious family suv. Only annoyance is the lane assist appears to be too sensitive especially when driving windy 2 lane roads. Suggest change factory tires for snow driving as opposed to CR-V that held better on standard tires. Only minor complaints vehicle is a good pick.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- RE036930A
- VIN
- 7FARS5H51RE036930
Dealer
Island HondaReviews
2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
Showed up to purchase cr-v hybrid after working out the (out the door price) only to show up at dealer to a hail damaged cr-v after hour and half round trip, stood around the dealership waiting on salesman that was helping two other separate customers (15 min) or so which gave me time to check out the damaged cr-v.I bought from Bommarito before and was very happy. this ordeal was very sketchy.
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