Used Kia cars for sale in Pine Mountain, GA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA362356
- VIN
- 5XYRL4JC0SG362356
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Sorento review
We have had a different experience than most reviewers. We bought the 2025 Sorento S, (highest trim level without the turbo) and power seems adequate. We had the car for about 10 days when my wife was pulled over for the taillight being out. The dealer replaced burnt out bulbs in the left taillight and for the license plate. Two weeks later there is a message on the dashboard that the L brake light is out. Take it to the dealer, where the service manager is surprised to hear it had 1271 miles on it. Dealership discovered a short in the wiring harness and the part has been on backorder for over a month. Since ordering the wiring harness, the cover for the keyhole on the driver door handle came off. It's gone, must have been while I was driving. Parts that just fall off are not covered under warranty, so it's $20 for the part and $70 to paint it. The people are the dealership have been great, but the product support has been disappointing.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed DCT
- Stock #
- CA304342
- VIN
- 5XYRHDJFXRG304342
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
Kia AutoSport review
I took my car in to be serviced and for a recall. Kia of Columbus services were great from start to finish. I greeted warmly on a very cold windy day. I was taken to Chris at the service desk after being asked if I wanted to see any specific person. Chris provided me all the services I requested and pricing so there would be any surprises. They have a variety of snacks and beverages while you wait. I actually bought my vehicle at this dealership in 2019 and will continue to do business there.
2024 Kia Sorento review
bought a 2024 Sorento xline cpo after a couple of fixes ie., rear air shocks and backup camera was showing green only, the service dept. finally took care after 4 chances. im going to change the low profile tires as soon as I can for a smoother ride. o do love the car. Very sharp and drives nicely with all the creature features. 5 ✨
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA486909
- VIN
- 5XYRG4JC2TG486909
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2026 Kia Sorento review
We bought our 2026 Kia Sorento SX in Sept. 2025. It is equipped with a 2.5-liter, turbo charged engine. We really liked the exterior look of the Sorento. The interior is nicely appointed and comfortable. The engine produces 280 HP, so there is plenty of power when you need it. We are still getting used to the Dual Clutch transmission. It has different characteristics than automatic transmissions in previous vehicles we have owned. The Sorento is comfortable to drive, but there is a lack of road feel that we had to get used to. The dual use toggle switch that controls the climate system and infotainment system can be confusing. We also find there is excessive wind noise when going faster than 40 MPH. In the first 3000 miles we have driven the Sorento, we have one recall for a software problem, and we experienced a dead battery with no apparent cause. Overall, we like the Sorento, but we are concerned about its long-term reliability.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA284049
- VIN
- KNAG64J77S5284049
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia K5 review
Great car all fully loaded inside noises very low on out side. Sun food open for tented window ur fully open for sunshine and fresh air
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA157640
- VIN
- 5XYK33DF8RG157640
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2024 Kia Sportage review
Great customer service. My Kia Sportage drives very comfortably. Love the heated seats. Great for carrying large items cause you can put the back seats down.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP649843
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD8PE649843
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2023 Kia Forte review
Bought the vehicle new in October of 2023. Now it’s March of 2025. Have yet to have an issue🤞though have heard of common problems many have had. I’ve put roughly 20 k miles on the car in a year and a half (mostly interstate driving). Technology package is lovely and the vehicle has an overall stylish feel. It’s important to keep in mind, though, that you’re buying a 20k dollar vehicle from 2023. It’s plastics galore in there, so, though stylish, the material quality isn’t the best. If you’re someone who takes care of your things, you shouldn’t have an issue! Use the maintenance schedule found in the Owner’s manual and this vehicle should get you where you’re going for a reasonable amount of years. That being said, if you’re trying to decide between and LX[S] and GT (not including GT-Line), choose the GT. Though you’re paying a little extra, you get a standard transmission with real gears (the car has more power than you’d think too) rather than the CVT found in the LX[S] (and GT-line). CVT tech has greatly improved within recent years, but they’re still known to be problematic at times. All in all, this generation of Kia seems to be more reliable than most previous gens. Definitely a real deal competitor with the carolla/civic and worth the consideration!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP962476
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU8S7962476
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Soul review
best car I have ever owned,I highly recommend, CVT & engine are flawless, discontinued and no more will be built, these are built in South Korea
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP965250
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU8S7965250
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Soul review
VERY comfortable car, especially if you like being able to park easily, yet have headroom and not need a crane to lower yourself into your seat. The seats literally hug you. Perfect fit for me, and the dealership was great, no hassle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CA238340
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU9R7238340
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2024 Kia Soul review
No games Aaron my sales rep was awesome great dealer to work with very satisfied highly recommend very friendly staff and courteous and if your looking for a car this is the place to go
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP963490
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU7S7963490
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Soul review
Great car for the cost Only problem was that it is easy to pinch a finger with the door handles while opening and closing the doors
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP775219
- VIN
- 3KPF24AD9RE775219
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2024 Kia Forte review
I love my kia forte. I got the top tier kia Forte with leather seats which heat and cool and also a sunroof. This car is very comfortable! It is a little on the pricey side for my top tier one, but in the long run it is worth it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Aurora Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 054192
- VIN
- KNAE55LC7K6054192
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Nissan of LagrangeReviews
Nissan of Lagrange review
I loved the excellent service they gave me they have showed me great options.
2019 Kia Stinger review
Best car i have ever owned. From the style to performance, it has it all! Owned over 50 cars in my lifetime and this wins it all!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CP385460
- VIN
- 5XYP5DGC0PG385460
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
Kia AutoSport review
Although it's been several weeks since I had my car serviced,I can't go another day without giving Ethan Karweik, service advisor a shout out. Thank you Ethan for your excellent customer service, honesty,professionalism and for explaining everything so clearly through the process Job Well Done! I will definitely return for future maintenance and repairs!!!
2023 Kia Telluride review
This is followup to Tucker Dawg prior review. As noted the 2023 Tellurides came without a tow hitch or harness and none ever became available due recall issue on 2020 -2022 models. My dealership was able to retro fit 2022 hitch, then they paid to have an aftermarket electrical harness installed. And now I pull a 22 foot airstream camper ( 3800# weight ) and it works great! All in all very happy with car after 3 years and 26,000 miles. But if buy used, do be aware KIA never offered a factory hitch or harness.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CA722587
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD5RE722587
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2024 Kia Forte review
I bought my Forte LXS in Feb of 2024 and i've driven 9,000 miles on it so far. it's been great and i prefer this over a Corolla or a Camry. on the highway i sometimes get fuel economy in the low 50's mpg and on average i get around 37 mpg combined. not bad at all. i bought this for $21K after taxes and registration. the value can't be beat imo.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 6
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70134532
- VIN
- KNDJN2A2XH7449593
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
CarMax ColumbusReviews
CarMax Columbus review
Michael was very nice, polite and also very knowledgeable. He was the best salesperson that I have dealt with in Columbus. This means a lot to us senior citizens.
2017 Kia Soul review
I have owned a Kia Soul Brownstone Edition for 6 years now. It hasn't given us any issues aside from a brake ABS failure in warranty. However, since Kia skimped out on immobilizers, I wouldn't get one without push button start, which is most of them, unfortunately. While they extended the warranty on the engine, they have plenty of fundamental issues with it, and also, my Kia after 4 years, has noises in front and back suspension sway bars, and the strut tower bearings make noise. While these don't need to be fixed, they make the car sound like crap. I just drove a 2019 Kona with the same amount of miles, and the suspension on that was just fine. Might be due to the larger wheels and smaller profile tires, I don't know. If Kia ever sells the EV soul in the US, I'd get that. So far, they've been good.
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$40,150
Est. $739/mo Group 1 Toyota Rivertown
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- Ext. color
- Glacial White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- LAMBDA II 3.8L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve
- Stock #
- RG421228
- VIN
- 5XYP5DGC9RG421228
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Group 1 Toyota RivertownReviews
Group 1 Toyota Rivertown review
James Mcbroom was my service tech. He was very helpful and explained everything to me. He was very knowledgeable The car dealership was nice and clean had a nice lounge and had coffee What else do you need while you wait
2024 Kia Telluride review
Have driven just over 20,000 miles so far. No issues. Drive between Clearwater and Gainesville regularly plus a couple other family trips and daily around town. Averages about 27 mpg at 75, quiet and pleasant ride. Trips were nice with good visibility front and back and plenty of room for stuff. Highly recommend.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Maroon
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- I4 2.4L Natural Aspiration
- Stock #
- VP U 111820
- VIN
- 5XYKTDA6XDG341187
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Willy Herold AutomotiveReviews
Willy Herold Automotive review
I have purchased my last two used vehicles from Willy Herold for my teen and now college aged daughter. The second purchase was simply an upgrade from the first :) My in house buying experience has been more than outstanding. Janet Lane has personally gone more than above and beyond in her customer care services for me. She is always prompt, knowledgeable and responsive to any and all questions and always finds me the best possible price for my needs. This is for the vehicle itself as well as any service or repairs and even new tires. She also always works with me to get all my needs taken care of. The service department is very highly recommended. Lynda and her team do an excellent job with repairs on all my vehicles with the best prices in town. My youngest will be driving age soon and we will ABSOLUTELY be using Janet Lane and Willy Herold Automotive to find the right type of vehicle for him.
2013 Kia Sorento review
I purchased my 2013 Kia Sorento LX fwd (3.5L V6 engine non GDI) used with 36,000mi. It now has 167,000mi. (mix of city and 1000+mi road trips). It's had very few issues, and it's still running strong. The 3.5 engine seems very durable. I change the oil and use only high quality full synthetic oil and filter. The few minor issues include limited life for front turn signal/head light bulbs, slightly stiff suspension, and easily stained fabric seats. The suspension and steering seem pretty durable as well. I only use Michelin Defender tires, and I've gotten 95,000mi out of them. It's never needed an alignment.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- FWD
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA221852
- VIN
- 5XYRG4LC8PG221852
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
Kia AutoSport review
True professionals who really know all customers and their needs. Service is always top notch. And they fully understand a quality product deserves quality care. I would recommend them due to their customer service and quality vehicles.
2023 Kia Sorento review
My Sorrento has nice styling...is comfortable..get good gas mileage which in this Era is important...love how it is equipped with navigation, heated seats,fold down third seats. This size is perfect for my wife and I and extra room for picking up guests at the airport or bringing groceries home. I would have liked a little more power for getting up to speed in traffic and getting on the highway. All in all I'm very happy with this SUV
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- AWD
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CP802823
- VIN
- KNDEUCA77S7802823
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Seltos review
My 2025 Kia Seltos is a wonderful SUV truck. I love it and recommend it. It's a wonderful ride and makes me feel safe. Thank you Kia!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CP308895
- VIN
- KNAG64J73S5308895
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
Kia AutoSport review
All involved with our purchase were very Professional and Knowledgeable. No one was pushy or in a hurry to push a deal. They answered all questions and seemed happy to help.
2025 Kia K5 review
I only had the car 1 month but drove it to Florida (all around) and back and put on 3,500 miles. My car is a GT-Line, Wolf Grey with the Red interior, Bose speakers etc. The car is a real pleasure to drive. Very Quiet on the road, and my mileage exceeded the 37 mpg epa rating, and that’s while maintaining speeds of 80 mph with 2 people and fully loaded with luggage. Little if any wind noise. Note that at times I hit much higher speeds not knowing since it was so quiet & smooth. The engine RPM was mostly between 2 to 2.1 at 80mph. The power of the 2.5 liter is good, and slightly better than the 2019 Camry I had, which was a very good car as well. The Bose system sounded great, and all the alert sensors and some other sensors like keeping your car steering between the lines worked very well, but I preferred to turn that off most of the time. If you turn on your turning signals to changing lanes, and a car is present, not only does your side mirrors alert you, but you’ll get sound notices and the steering wheel will vibrate. Triple redundancy. The handling is very good, and secure, brakes are excellent and has a very good feel to them. A very important note is, I appreciate that the 2.5 engine has both Direct & Port Injectors on each cylinder. Port injectors will help cleaned the valves and clear any carbon build up. This is the same arrangement my Camry 2019 had which greatly reduces or eliminates carbon buildup in these Direct Inject Engines. The Nav system worked flawlessly and quickly. I also love you can remotely start your car with the key FOB (No additional charge) or with Kia Connect though Kia connect is only free the 1st 3 years. Also, happily, it doesn’t have the stop & start engine control which can cause more wear on your starter motor with little gain on MPG. The seats are very comfortable as I can attest driving 12 hours straight on my first stop. The car’s 8 spd auto shifted smoothly in all conditions. Plenty of room inside. Lot of storage in the console area for incidentals and drinks. I enjoyed the Panoramic roof. The negative was the Combine toggle Climate & Media control is a bit counter intuitive and sometimes causes more effort to control. Trunk space is good, as I had lots of luggage. The car feels solid & hopefully reliable down the line. The only other negative which is because I do my own oil changes etc, is this car takes a Cartridge oil filter (Not spin on) and takes 6.1 quarts of oil, (Not 5 qts) but I knew this well before I bought it but it’s location and design is good. So it’s not a real big deal, but this will cost a little more for oil changes. Recommended oil chg is 7,500 but I’ll be doing it every 5 to 6K for sure. BTW recommended oil is 0 -30W. Based on my limited time but very heavy usage I highly recommend this car, and I really enjoy driving it. Very sporty looking.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA327911
- VIN
- 5XYP64GC7PG327911
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2023 Kia Telluride review
Went to Vandevere Kia and met David Sabitina, showed us a couple of trim packages and my wife fell in love with the Telluride Xline. David is very knowledgeable and would recommend going to see him.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Moss
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- FWD
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- CA366512
- VIN
- 5XYP54GC8PG366512
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2023 Kia Telluride review
I was very disappointed to discover that after paying the exorbitant markup of almost $10,000.00, that there is no power button in the car or on the key fob to open the rear hatch. I was also shocked that the front passenger seat does not have power controls, you have to reach under the seat to manually pull it forward or back. While I understand the safety feature to not accidentally lock a child in the car, I was unable to lock my car while trying to sleep in the back while camping. I'm hoping this won't be an issue in the future, but I had to have an alignment after only 12,000 miles and since I'm the only driver, I can assure you that I've never hit a pot hole or anything else that should have caused this. I do find the car comfortable to ride in and I like the safety features that alert you when trying to change lanes or if an object is behind you.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Grey
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- SV354443
- VIN
- 5XYRL4JCXSG354443
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
Kia AutoSport review
Went in for yearly maintenance.Mr.Scott Boyle was my service department rep.Very nice young man,had and unexpected cost, but he explained everything to me.This was my first time meeting him in, the five years I have been going there.A very respectful young man, with a likeable attitude.He's an access to the service department.❤️ Thanks KIA ‼️
2025 Kia Sorento review
There is quite a bit to love about my 2025 Kia Sorento X Line. Great features, decent size navigation screen. However, I find the seat to be a bit uncomfortable due to the edging on the back of the seat with how it is curved. Also, I’m not sure exactly how long the paint job will last as my salesman did mention it’s not the best. My dealership wiped it clean instead of actually washing it before I took possession of it and this caused swirl marks all over it!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue / Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- FWD
- Transmission
- CVT
- Stock #
- CP758193
- VIN
- KNDEU2AA1S7758193
Dealer
Kia AutoSportReviews
2025 Kia Seltos review
I have had pickups since 1973. My sister bought a Seltos 2 years ago and loved it. I bought one and cannot complain. It’s a 4 cyl so don’t expect to burn rubber but it will get you any place you want to go. Very happy so far…
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silky Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 8-Spd w/Overdrive & Sportmatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve
- Stock #
- 13027
- VIN
- KNALC4J19H5080493
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Opulent Autos LLCReviews
2017 Kia Cadenza review
When I went to buy a car, twice wasn’t ready, turned around and saw this beautiful car in and out! I keep up with maintenance, because car lets me know. Single female who drives a lot, need reliable transport!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Racing Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 3707
- VIN
- KNAFW6A34B5327153
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Autovend USAReviews
Autovend USA review
My sales guy Sergi got back with me really fast. I told him I needed a couple days. Then followed up with me in a couple days. Lol When I do pull the trigger,I am definally calling him first. Great follow through !!!!!
2011 Kia Forte Koup review
I got it from my grandfather when he passed it has 45k kilometres I put on 30k in a year and didn’t have one issue worked in construction so it was being driven on a construction site and never had one issue.