Used cars for sale near Placerville, CA under $4,000
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 VTEC variable valve control, premium gasoline, engine w
- Stock #
- 925275
- VIN
- 2HNYD182X5H525275
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Hayes Auto SalesReviews
Hayes Auto Sales review
Never made it to Hayes. Was in Sacramento and bought a car that day but before making it to Roseville. The car at Hayes is an LX and I really wanted an EX. The person I talked to there was very helpful.
2005 Acura MDX review
I love how it has so much space and it drives great! My family all loves it! It keeps them quiet especially with the DVD player lol overall we are very happy with the car
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Sand Tri-Coat Metallic
- Int. color
- Stone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Triton 5.4L V-8 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 8318
- VIN
- 1FMFU20558LA11278
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Roseville Auto SalesReviews
Roseville Auto Sales review
I got a decent used car under $5k ($1500+ fees) fixer upper. Dealer gave full disclosure & straight talk. Todd is a nice guy.
2008 Ford Expedition review
I purchased this vehicle in December 2014 with 66K miles on it and the 5.4L V-8.. I immediately serviced my Expedition with AMSOIL products. With the exception of normal maintenance items (Brakes, spark plugs etc.), this vehicle has been entirely trouble free. have had ZERO maintenance issues, check engine lights, etc. on this truck at all, and 5+ years later it now has 221K miles. Mostly road miles between my home and in Flagler County and my shop in Ocala, and my daughters home in Pensacola. Average gas mileage was between 18-20mpg without a tow load, 15-16mpg with a tow load. Not bad for a large SUV. I just recently purchased a 2014 Navigator with 70K miles and also the 5.4L. Other than being a stickler for routine maintenance, this vehicle has not been babied in any way. The dependability of this engine and drive train has been second to none in my experience, which is why I purchased this SUV as it is the last year of the 5.4L. I have classic cars and towed them with my Expedition. Great towing vehicle as well. Of course, it is all about how folks take care of their vehicles, but I have nothing but praise for the 2014 Expedition. So if you are looking for a large SUV I don't feel you can go wrong with a Ford Expedition.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sangria Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duratec 2.5L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- 8394
- VIN
- 1FMCU0D73AKD02697
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Roseville Auto SalesReviews
Roseville Auto Sales review
The person at Roseville Auto Sales that I was dealing with was personable, professional, and courteous.
2010 Ford Escape review
Reviewed in 2025. I bought this 2010 in 2013 and mileage is now almost 250k with only a few wear and tear issues AFTER 200k miles! (starter, master cylinder and TPMS sensors, all lasted much longer than they are predicted to last). I read several issues about acceleration, but this is a limited therefor it has a V6 and I never have issues with acceleration (0-60 in a little over 7 seconds). The backup camera is in the mirror which is small but I like that hidden feature... I also like the proximity sensor beeping. This SUV has been great for commuting or long trips, always reliable and fun to drive.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Pastel Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 150HP
- Stock #
- 7922
- VIN
- 3A8FY58B68T169842
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
Roseville Auto SalesReviews
Roseville Auto Sales review
Sales man was very helpful. He made me a great deal and made all the paperwork easy to understand. I would recommend Roseville auto sales to everyone
2008 Chrysler PT Cruiser review
I bought my 2008 Cruiser in 2011 used with 30k miles on it. It's been 13 years and I STILL have it. It now has 170k miles and it didn't start having issues until maybe 2 or 3 years ago. First thing that cut out was the AC but I consider that a luxury and can't afford to get it fixed so I've been driving without it for a while. Maybe 5 years ago the suspension had to be replaced and the camshaft sensor had to be replaced like 3 times over the course of a year. About 3 years ago the radiator blew and needed to be replaced. And just last year ('23) the control arm needed to be replaced, and it started giving me issues overheating. Just this month (August '24) it needed a coolant flush, new thermostat, new radiator fan, and fuel pump. But with all the old car repairs, every time something is fixed, it keeps going and the repairs hold up. This little car has lasted longer than I ever thought it would and I'm going to keep it going as long as I can. Other than engine issues as the car has aged, the rest of it is decent. Good leg room, surprising amount of space. It's gotten me through 3 moves and I've packed so many moving boxes in there I didn't need to rent a moving van. I'm 35 now and still driving around my first car (mainly because I'm poor but whatever). I have so many good memories with this cat and I'm so glad it's lasted so long.
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$2,985
Est. $55/mo SK Auto Solutions, inc
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brown
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.6L V-6 premium unleaded, engine with 168HP
- Stock #
- 424476
- VIN
- WDBRF61J13A424476
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
SK Auto Solutions, incReviews
2003 Mercedes-Benz C-Class review
My 2003 Mercedes C240 is the safest, most reliable, sleekest, brilliant, powerful, & comfortable car ever made because they can do anything a Japanese car can, but they also give the same luxury & safety that any car ever made can give. Built for high speed on the German Autobahn, these cars must provide safety at collision speeds of 120 miles per hour in Germany.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 215.0HP 3.3L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JTEDP21A770132453
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Reviews
2007 Toyota Highlander review
We have owned our Highlander since about 42K miles, it now has 136k. The car has been wonderfully reliable and the batteries (now 16 years old) seem to still be working quite well. We get about 25mpg, maybe one or two less than when we first got it. While maybe not sexy, the first-gen Highlander Hybrid is a super well-engineered car. Our years in this tight, quiet, comfortable, spacious vehicle have been great. Biggest problem is we can't find a modern car we like enough to replace it!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brown
- Int. color
- Brown
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Northstar 4.6L V-8 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 275HP
- Stock #
- 229812
- VIN
- 1G6KD57Y47U229812
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
National Auto ExchangeReviews
National Auto Exchange review
The dealership had a beautiful look, Tommy and the whole team were very kind and patient with me while have some trouble but they made it happen!
2007 Cadillac DTS review
I work the GM for a few years my dad retired from GM after 32 years I started doing mechanical work on cars my dad I picked out a Cadillac 2007 DTS for him and it was on the lot in 2009 when he went and got it didn't have any miles on it I told him to trim little trim the best Cadillac in the world get it you got it he had it from 2009 until he passed 2014 and then I paid it off for my mom and she kept her 2023 last year when she passed and then became my car it's a beautiful car I've never had to replace one thing except for a headlight and it's easy you do not have to take off the bumper you have to loosen it up and you have to turn the light on a slight angle to take it out and it comes right out and I replaced that ball twice once for my dad and once for myself turn out you want to take it off and then mechanic for 20 years of killings it is a beautiful car ride for the dream I love it I'll never get rid of it I don't drive in the winter time just to summertime !
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto
- Engine
- 4.8L V8 SFI OHV Flex 4.8L
- Stock #
- 17728
- VIN
- 1GAZG1FA3D1146619
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
GW TrucksReviews
GW Trucks review
Sold a couple of cars to these guys! Got a fair deal on both of them and got paid within a few minutes. I continued stalking the website and came across a super clean GLK Diesel! Kemal was easy to deal with and had me out there door very quickly for a cash deal.
2013 Chevrolet Express 3500 review
Good power and drive ability, with lots of room inside, comfortable seating. Feels sturdy and stable. Heat and air conditioning work well. A great vehicle for iur RV trsiler tow mission.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 886248
- VIN
- 3N1CN7AP7CL886248
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2012 Nissan Versa review
I own the most bear bones version and it works like a charm, with the manual 30mpg is easily achievable. Steering at low speeds feels like you are the car. Pedals are responsive and the suspension can handle just about anything. Highly recommended for a cheap daily.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sandalwood Metallic
- Int. color
- Tan/Neutral
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- Vortec 5.3L V-8 regular gasoline, engine with 285HP
- Stock #
- 214255
- VIN
- 1GNFK16T33J214255
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2003 Chevrolet Suburban review
I've owned a 2003 Chevy Suburban 1500 LS for 20 years, 198,595 miles and it's still going strong...I've consistently changed the oil and have never had any issues. Of the 8 cars I've owned, including a 2012 Mercedes GL450, a 2006 Volvo 740, the Chevy is the most reliable, comfortable and least expensive car I've owned.
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$3,999
Est. $74/mo Pacific Star Motors LLC
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 7-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 707733
- VIN
- 4JGBB8GB2BA707733
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2011 Mercedes-Benz M-Class review
This is an update. I have had the car for nearly a year now and it's excellent! I bought it was $256,000 MI, replace the suspension, didn't oil change, and started using Chevron premium gas which took care of the catalytic converter light. Handles like new with four new tires. I also did a transmission fluid and filter change. Lots of power and at 60 MPH I get almost 20 miles per gallon. Not bad for the v8!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright Blue
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 2.2L I-4 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 140HP
- Stock #
- 175835
- VIN
- 1G8AW12F73Z175835
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2003 Saturn Ion review
My Saturn ion is that 201,000+ miles. I have not had any major issues, mostly just Maintenance. I do notice an electrical problem. It’s been there since I got the car. I just don’t have the money to pay a mechanic to find the problem.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alpine Frost
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- 2.7L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 173HP
- Stock #
- 139189
- VIN
- KM8JN72D15U139189
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2005 Hyundai TUCSON review
I own a 2005 Hyundai Tucson and I love it. Not one single problem in all these years! Great SUV. Everything about this SUV is remarkable! It steers great, it is a very smooth ride, gas mileage is decent. I just love my 2005 Hyundai Tucson.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Zermatt Silver
- Int. color
- Charcoal premium leather
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- 4.4L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 6A204097STK
- VIN
- SALMF15406A204097
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2006 Land Rover Range Rover review
The ride is sooo smooth. Reliability for Range Rovers is a given. Have had only minor repairs done but that's to be expected for a 14yo vehicle. The Carfax was PERFECT. There's nothing about my River I don't like👍
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cactus Green Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- Power Tech 3.7L V-6 regular gasoline, engine with 210HP
- Stock #
- 212078
- VIN
- 1J4GL48KX4W212078
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
Dealer
Pacific Star Motors LLCReviews
2004 Jeep Liberty review
Before owning this car I've always made fun of the way it looks until realizing it may not be your ideal Jeep, but it does help with aerodynamics of the car. For a SUV with a V6 engine I expected the gas intake to cost more than it really does but to my surprise the gas cost is no issue for me and I drive it almost every day. As the car is well built it is meant to be a car that is supposed to be taken care of like a car. There's some issues that will occur with the 04 Jeep Liberty but those fixes don't burn holes in your pockets. After 20 years this car is still capable of trail riding and everyday usage with comfort and confidence. The interior can be turned into a quiet a spacious area for the size it appears to be form the exterior. I heavily recommend this as a first car as it was my first. Not to mention it is a pretty hard shell to crack when it comes to wrecks or bumps. To think owning this car Brand New while it runs perfectly fine for its two decades of life. To anyone reading this that is thinking of buying this from a Dealer/FBMP/Family or Friend, I'm sure you won't regret it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- AW116165STK
- VIN
- JN8AZ1MW5AW116165
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Affordable Drive LLCReviews
2010 Nissan Murano review
Have a 2010 AWD Ti has done 340k not missed a beat until recently had fuel injector fail and wear and tear starting to show but still very responsive. Engine inside also seems to have more build up than what i would've expected having had regular servicing. dont know if thats common , just an observation. I love the Bose system , has a sub in tire well and pumps loud. Leather seats very comfortable . Electric tailgate and sunroofs pretty cool. Is a pleasure to drive with good visability
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 107.0HP Electric Motor Electric Fuel System
- VIN
- 1N4AZ0CP1FC324817
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Reviews
2015 Nissan Leaf review
Ok so don't let the miles or lack of engin noise scare you and you'll be fine! Electric vehicles are different from a 2015 chevy spark that cost $300 per tire, $70 oil change and $15 gas in week to $3-5 to fill up if want to pay at walmart. Charges from normal 110v socket over night. Its a trade higher insurance avg 23% and plate cost vs oil and gas costs. It should balance out plus way more fun to drive knowing gas is not a factor and your wall plug is always in trunk!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Medium Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 913534
- VIN
- 2CNBJ634416913534
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
Dealer
River City Auto SalesReviews
River City Auto Sales review
Very nice. Smooth process. Alex was a great guy. Thank you for making my day with my new car?
2001 Chevrolet Tracker review
It's now April 2014, I bought my base 2001 Tracker new. It's now sitting at 177,391 miles. It's 2 wd. It's not the greatest in the snow unless you put weight in the back, as far as comfort it's not bad but compared to today's vehicles it is. I have the 2.0 4 cylinder and even now I'm still achieving 22 to 23 miles per gallon City. I'm not sure about the highway because I don't take it on the highway often only because it's a smaller vehicle and I mostly use it for driving around town. As far as reliability I have had zero problems with this, it's never broken down it always starts transmission shifts flawlessly even being at 177,000. I mostly use it for grocery shopping or quick trips around town I also have a hitch on it I haul a small utility trailer if I need to move the riding mower or something like that. I will say it can be a little rough in the wind but I've also put a larger size tire on it so it sits up a little higher which in reality causes more problems in the wind, The wider part of the tire does help for stability though.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.0L I6 12V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- 605626
- VIN
- 1J4FT28S0XL605626
Dealer
River City Auto SalesReviews
River City Auto Sales review
I loved coming to this dealership they have so many cars in my price! and a very nice sales team. highly recommended. thank you river city
1999 Jeep Cherokee review
I bought mine in 08 91000 miles for 3,000. One of best cars I've ever had, bulletproof so good in the snow. I think the only way you could kill it is running it with no oil. I stupidly sold it to my brother with 112,000 on it. He drove it till it had 192,000 then sold it to his friend. Im sure its still going somewhere.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel drive
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 147HP
- Stock #
- 12538A
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD0PE522116
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sanborn ChevroletReviews
Sanborn Chevrolet review
best dealer ship I've worked in the area. Salesman Erick made everything so easy for me. got me the vehicle I was looking for. no haggle or issues when buying this vehicle. He was not pushy at all.
2023 Kia Forte review
Bought the vehicle new in October of 2023. Now it’s March of 2025. Have yet to have an issue🤞though have heard of common problems many have had. I’ve put roughly 20 k miles on the car in a year and a half (mostly interstate driving). Technology package is lovely and the vehicle has an overall stylish feel. It’s important to keep in mind, though, that you’re buying a 20k dollar vehicle from 2023. It’s plastics galore in there, so, though stylish, the material quality isn’t the best. If you’re someone who takes care of your things, you shouldn’t have an issue! Use the maintenance schedule found in the Owner’s manual and this vehicle should get you where you’re going for a reasonable amount of years. That being said, if you’re trying to decide between and LX[S] and GT (not including GT-Line), choose the GT. Though you’re paying a little extra, you get a standard transmission with real gears (the car has more power than you’d think too) rather than the CVT found in the LX[S] (and GT-line). CVT tech has greatly improved within recent years, but they’re still known to be problematic at times. All in all, this generation of Kia seems to be more reliable than most previous gens. Definitely a real deal competitor with the carolla/civic and worth the consideration!
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