Used subcompact SUVs for sale near Avoca, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Milano Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- UL706575
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H53SM706575
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Hazleton HondaReviews
2025 Honda HR-V review
Being my second HR-V, this is by far the best upgrade. and I had an amazing sales person JP Parham I recommend him to all my friends he’s very professional and patient
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- UP707958
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H34SM707958
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Hazleton HyundaiReviews
2025 Honda HR-V review
After 3 years, I was able to upgrade from the 2022 to the 2025 HR-V. This is all thanks to the amazing salesman Manny at DCH Paramus. I left as happy as can be knowing that I had a smooth transition from my old to my newest car along with the best customer service!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Medium Ash Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.3L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- UP096039
- VIN
- KL79MRSL2RB096039
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Hazleton Hyundai -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- STK152340
- VIN
- KNDCR3L13T5152340
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
This dealer is the bomb, I drove six hours to get to the dealership and the car that I drove to see was exactly how they described. Closed the deal within 1 hr. When I got home I looked for the wheel lock nut and it wasn’t there, went to dealer locally and bought one. Let unlimited motors know about the transaction and they refunded me for the part. Very, very satisfied with this dealershio
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl White Tricoat
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT with Xtronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- 1NT5641A
- VIN
- JN1BJ1CR8KW620118
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Impex Auto SalesReviews
Impex Auto Sales review
Gus was great to work with! We appreciate all he did for us. We will keep him in mind for the future.
2019 Nissan Rogue Sport review
I really enjoy my Nissan Rogue Sport. In Dec 2021 I was Tboned and it was repaired, had over $12,000 damage. I’m interested in the recalls.
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$21,579
Est. $390/mo Fixl Automotive of Bartonsville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mercury Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, MIVEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- J001921
- VIN
- JA4ARUAU2SU001921
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fixl Automotive of BartonsvilleReviews
Fixl Automotive of Bartonsville review
I bought a 2019 Toyota Camry from here 3 months ago from Elizabeth and she is the most amazing person to buy cars from and made it happen for me. Definitely go see Elizabeth to go buy a car. She is the only sales person I trust and doesn’t make you feel like other sales people and treats you like you’re part of her family!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Orange
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70326892
- VIN
- JA4AP4AU1LU000234
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
Dealer
CarMax EastonReviews
2020 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport review
Dependable suv money can buy. The outlander sport drives awesome and the gas milage isn't bad for being an SUV. Would recommend this SUV for anyone looking for a new suv without breaking the bank.
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$19,485
Est. $352/mo Fixl Automotive of Saylorsburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Diamond
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, MIVEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- S012388
- VIN
- JA4APUAU7NU012388
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fixl Automotive of SaylorsburgReviews
Fixl Automotive of Saylorsburg review
I went here with my grandmother to buy a small car and had a really easy and great time with the staff Doug in particular. I would definitely recommend.
2022 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport review
We bought our 2022 Outlander sport GT in august of 2022… when we compared feature for feature with the other small crossovers, this was our favorite.. it looks nice , has plenty of power and is comfortable on long trips . We took it to the snowy range and it handled the mountains with ease. This is our first brand new car and we are “ seasoned citizens “ So the warranty was also a big selling point . We are super happy with it . Planning on this being tje last car we buy !! I am confident ot will last a long time !
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 1.8L I-4 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 1
- Stock #
- T9523
- VIN
- 3CZRU6H73KM728325
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
Great Place Taj auto mall, all I see is happy faces, from the whole team at Taj auto they are friendly and welcomed me, Ray and Pete explained everything I was signing clearly.... and went out of their way to help me. they are 2 "GREAT MEN" Wonderful salesmanship very professional and courteous very pleasant experience I would definitely recommend to anyone! Thank again Cathy Kennedy
2019 Honda HR-V review
I love the look of this body style, unfortunately they changed they body style so next time I buy a car it won’t be the HR-V with backseat handle that make the vehicle look like a sedan.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- 1.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, Multiair variable valve cont
- Stock #
- T9341
- VIN
- ZACNJDD17MPM69273
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
I BOUGHT MY CAR FROM YAMAN AND HE WAS EXCELLENT GAVE ME SUCH A GREAT DEAL I COULD NOT REFUSE. GO TAJ AUTO MALL .
2021 Jeep Renegade review
ISSUE WITH SUNROOF CLOSING, NEW ONE PUT IN SAME PROBLEM. IN COLD WEATHER SEVERAL DOORS WOULD NOT LOCK AT ALL. AT FIRST I THOUGHT THEY WERE FROZEN THE DEALERSHIP IS STILL NOT SURE WHY THIS HAPPENED. I WAS UNABLE TO DRIVE IT WHEN THIS OCCURRED. JUST HAD THE IGNITION REPLACED - CAR WOULD NOT SHUT OFF. I REALLY LOVED THIS CAR THE SUNROOF IS HUGE, MY FIRST NEW CAR, IT IS A LITTLE SMALL IN THE BACK SEAT FOR PASSENGERS BUT NICE, I LOVE HAVING A HATCH AND NO TRUNK TO MOVE THINGS IF I WANT. I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A JEEP AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE 4 WHEEL DRIVE AND OPEN FEEL OF THIS CAR. IT DOES VERY WELL ON THE HIGHWAY. THE REAL ISSUE I AM HAVING IS WITH CASTLE JEEP/ RAM IN NAPERVILLE,ILLINOIS COVRING THESE ISSUES WITH MY 100,000 MI WARRANTY.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polymetal Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- T9420
- VIN
- 3MVDMBCM2PM510887
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
Very informative and friendly. The staff helped show different options as far as the vehicle and financing.
2023 Mazda CX-30 review
Fabulous car. Extremely happy with the purchase, performance and deal. I knew this was the right vehicle after reading the previous reviews. Thanks to all!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.3L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- T9419
- VIN
- KL79MNSL9PB050763
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
We took our newly purchased Toyota Prius to VA for a shake down cruise. Found some minor issues. Called Chris. Brought the car in, they gave us a loaner, then knocked out the work. Thanks to ALL! Wife and I are happy!
2023 Chevrolet Trailblazer review
This vehicle has one drawback that I am aware of. The back up camera is very poor. The images are not crystal clear. It is like looking at a television screen from the 50s. I had a Blazer 2019 and my screen was great. I cannot understand why my 2023 vehicle has a poor screen. I have contacted General Motors and have gotten nowhere with them. I find this poor visual screen to be a safety issue. Had I known the back up camera and screen were so poor, I would’ve never bought the car as much as I like everything else about it. The visual on the screen is even worse at night.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.3L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 370206A
- VIN
- KL4MMESL5PB140404
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Star GMC of EastonReviews
Star GMC of Easton review
Fantastic experience -the buying and trade-in process was very smooth and easy! Rob Ehrig found the perfect vehicle for me (GMC Terrain AWD), and I love it. He explained all the functions and features completely and helped set everything up (phone pairing, On-Star, etc.). I am very pleased with the experience and will highly recommend Star GMC as the dealership to use.
2023 Buick Encore GX review
I know that here in Northern California, Buick isn't a very popular brand, but that means I was able to get a stunningly good deal on my new '23. I traded up from a low mileage '18 Buick Encore (not GX), and at the time of the transaction, it had a remarkable trade value. My dealer did a outstanding job on pre-sale prep and delivery. My sales rep answered my every question. I enjoyed the prior vehicle, and feel this new one will give me the same kind of driving experience. My added safety feature is the front accident/pedestrian avoidance and lane keep assist. I haven't had to use either yet, but feel good about having them aboard. This Buick strikes me as a hidden gem, full featured but still available at a price point that blows the other comparable Asian built imports out of the water.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Ebony w/Ebony Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- T9508
- VIN
- KL4AMBSP0SB016957
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
We knew the car we were getting before we got there. Did check out on the internet before we went, made an appointment with Owen and went up. Was greeted by a nice lady who got Owen for us . He brought the car around and said to drive it around for awhile and he would checkout my trade. After all was said and done we got the car we wanted at the price we wanted and a little more for our trade then we thought.we met with the general manager and the finance man. Everybody there was fantastic!!! Definitely would recommend the dealership and ask for Owen he was great.
2025 Buick Encore GX review
Have had this car for a month. Everything is so well laid out and the MyBuick app is so easy to navigate. The mileage is fantastic. This is my first new car (ever) and my 3rd Buick overall. I love it!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Steel Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 370216A
- VIN
- 3C4NJDCB8NT104527
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Star GMC of EastonReviews
Star GMC of Easton review
Overall, a great place to do business. Bought 3 vehicles here and have them serviced here. Everyone is pleasant and knowledgeable. Out of my way to go there, but worth it.
2022 Jeep Compass review
I have had my 22 High Altitude for about 4 months now and the only issue(s) I find are the following: MPG is not as advertised, it's not that great. It's around 24 average, I am about 50/50 city/highway driving - It's fine. It DOES ride like a Jeep - so it's not as "luxurious" as your higher end cars, but YOU BOUGHT A JEEP - The last snow storm we had in Cleveland was about 10" in 2 hours - No problem, even with 235/45/19 tires - Would be way better with not so wide tires. It's slow. Who cares? Are you driving in the F1? Nah - It's plenty. Interior is baller. Infotainment is great, comfortable. Heated steering wheel is a plus. IDK - I read these reviews and everyone is so picky - It's a nice ride. If you find you like it, give it a shot.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28783110
- VIN
- NMTKHMBX5JR018915
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax EastonReviews
2018 Toyota C-HR review
I drove a 2018 RAV 4 for one year before trading it in for the CHR. I really liked the RAV4, but it always felt just a little too big for me. I like smaller cars even though I am almost 6 foot tall! I should have driven the CHR before purchasing the RAV4 - I looked at it initially and thought it would not be roomy enough for me, boy was I wrong :) I am so in love with my CHR and plan on keeping it until I have to drive it like Fred Flintstone with my feet !!!LOL Thanks Toyota for making such a fun car to drive. - Can't say enough good things about it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd w/Overdrive & Shift Control
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- 933491
- VIN
- KL4CJESB8KB933491
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Auto Valley GroupReviews
Auto Valley Group review
Oleg and Auto Valley Group were absolutely wonderful to work with. I highly recommend that you reach out to them when looking for a new car. I called Oleg the first time 2 weeks before going to see the vehicle. He was easygoing, helpful and patient. He answered all of our questions and was very patient. He gave us a very fair price and a fair trade in value over the phone. We had all the details worked out before we drove the hundred miles to meet Oleg for the first time. The entire experience could not have been better.
2019 Buick Encore review
My car had the elec issue in transmission and caught fire at work. We'll maintained per the book no alterations and only had 42000 miles on it. I bought it brand new and still haven't been totally compensate
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