Used compact trucks for sale in Pomfret, VT
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$23,198
Est. $423/mo Key Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of White River
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sting Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- L24826A
- VIN
- 1C6JJTAG9ML573828
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Key Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of White RiverReviews
2021 Jeep Gladiator review
Having been a Wrangler operator for quite a while, I traded a 2018 Rubicon Recon JK. The Gladiator Sport S is more comfortable on the highway. The suspension is much softer than any of my Wrangler Rubicons have been. It's not a major deal since Florida doesn't have much in the way of rocks to crawl over. On the other hand, it has a lot more storage.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 6-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 278hp 265ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- GM030352STK
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN1GM030352
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Careys Auto SalesReviews
Careys Auto Sales review
i went to careys in search of a new vehicle. it was the first dealership I went to where I didn't feel pressured to buy. it was more like talking to a friend then talking to a salesman. its a great group of guys there. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good used car!
2016 Toyota Tacoma review
This vehicle seems to be an outstanding vehicle for its class. The only reason that I'm not giving it five stars for comfort is that it rides like a truck -- which is what its supposed to be, but quite comfortable for a truck. The other four star rating I gave it was because it was not available with a manual transmission. Again, it's a truck, not a car and trucks, as working vehicles should be available with a manual transmission -- but people today don't want to actually have to DRIVE a vehicl.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 285.0HP 3.6L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 1C6JJTBG4PL580690
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Reviews
2023 Jeep Gladiator review
Over the course of owning various 4 x 4's, the Jeep Gladiator has to be my favorite. Not only does is have the top of the line creature comforts, but it does what it was made to, go through off road rugged conditions - and it does it exceedingly well. The only vehicle that has come close to being an off road workhorse like the Gladiator was my Int'l Harvester Scout II and I have had Blazers, Hummers, F150's, Cherokees, etc.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gun Metallic
- Int. color
- Steel
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- VQ 3.8L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, VVEL variable valve control,
- Stock #
- U1400368
- VIN
- 1N6ED1EK9RN665633
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nucar Ford of LebanonReviews
2024 Nissan Frontier review
I bought my 2024 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4 in March of 2025. It had 63 miles on it, was sold as a used pickup, but basically brand new, and I got a VERY GOOD deal on the purchase from my local Nissan dealer. Back in the day, I bought a new Frontier in 2007 and it was an exceptional pickup but the 2024 is even better! The styling and the fit and finish is excellent, inside and out. Love the V6 and the 9-speed automatic, very smooth and quiet. The mileage is 2-3 mpg better than the 2007, 18 around town and 23 on the highway. Very comfortable on a long trip. I am very pleased that this pickup has a greatly improved the turning radius over the '07 - good for you, Nissan. It handles great off-road. I have nothing negative to say about my Frontier!! Love it!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Underground
- Int. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- U0301040
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN4RM035178
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nucar Ford of LebanonReviews
2024 Toyota Tacoma review
For a non full size pickup it seems pricey, but then again full size truck prices are ridiculous. The interior is really nice, spacious and well built. The truck handles incredibly well, and the 4 cylinder turbo has plenty of power. I was impressed with it's 6,000+ towing power. The exterior is mean looking and looks great heading down the road. I bought a SR model because I need a truck, not something full of options. The only downside is the box is smaller and holds a lot less than a full size and the Toyota sense safety is a bit much. I know it's there for a reason but it can be confusing.
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$29,974
Est. $547/mo Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- SP1907A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN8KM252590
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of SpringfieldReviews
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
This truck gets crappy gas mileage. Supposed to get 16 mpg city 24 mpg hwy but really only gets about 12-14 mpg in city and 18 to 20 mpg on hwy with crappy ethanol gas. When I was using no ethanol gas in great state of FL I was getting 16 to 18 mpg in city and 22 to 24 mpg on hwy. But I am now in CA so I am getting crappy mpg. I will be moving back to FL in a year.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- N5400284A
- VIN
- 3TYCZ5ANXMT009371
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nucar Ford of LebanonReviews
2021 Toyota Tacoma review
The best truck I have ever owned with so many extras i tried to get aftermarket stuff and I don’t need to it has everything on it already 21 TRD off road dbl cab long bed love it so handy and all the bells and whistles thank you hope you all enjoy yours as much as I do.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- U0301042
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN9RM032230
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nucar Ford of LebanonReviews
2024 Toyota Tacoma review
Great experience so far with the Tacoma. Have loved the ride and comfort it provides, with the only negative so far being some of the quality of the interior isn’t the greatest. The door panels specifically are loose feeling on the handles, seems cheap for a $55k truck.
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$30,974
Est. $565/mo Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Orange
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- SP1985A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN8KM254033
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of SpringfieldReviews
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield review
Drove over 100 miles to get here. All around amazing experience. Will definitely be buying my next truck here!!!
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
I fit real well in this truck . I like the gas mileage and it is awesome. The color fits me and l like 4 wheel drive. The truck works good in the snow and handles extremely well.
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$34,974
Est. $638/mo Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 26172B
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN1PM579694
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield -





$34,794
Est. $635/mo Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sarge Green Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- SP1846
- VIN
- 1C6JJTBG7NL146289
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of SpringfieldReviews
2022 Jeep Gladiator review
The best vehicle that I've ever owned! It's never needed to go back to the dealer for any work or new vehicle adjustments. I will get another Gladiator after this one!
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$31,574
Est. $576/mo Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sting-Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- SP2018
- VIN
- 1C6JJTEG9ML623332
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Casey Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of SpringfieldReviews
2021 Jeep Gladiator review
We special ordered a Jeep Galdiato Rubicon in 2021 and loved it. Our only problem was it didn't leave much space in the garage. We decided to trade it for a special ordered Jeep Wrangle 4dr. RubiconX. This new vehicle left us with 34 more inches of space in our garage. We still have our 2021 Jeep GrandCherokee Trailhawk as our long trip vehicle. 2 never gave any problems accept with the Aux, battery after 3 years of own
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- PUN850
- VIN
- 1C6JJTBG1PL518387
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Nucar Ford of LebanonReviews
2023 Jeep Gladiator review
MOST importantly it is a JEEP. If you want a luxury vehicle, buy one, if you want a full-size truck, buy one, if you want a sports car, buy one, the Jeep Gladiator is none of these. It is designed to be a mid-sized pick-up yet still be a Jeep, it does this PERFECTLY. I have owned 9 Jeeps over the years, as early as 1978 up through 2006; the Jeeps today are full of more amenities and comfort than they ever have been in history. I have 2 Gladiators; a '23 Mojave, and a '23 Diesel Overland, both of them are INCREDIBLE vehicles on and off road, and MORE than fit the bill for a light duty pick-up, superseding most others on the market, and I am even comparing to any of the 5 Tacoma's I have owned. If you are in the market for a light duty pick-up, you can't beat it; whether it is a loaded up graded model, or even the base model, it is still a truck with 4WD, straight axles, and still available with a manual transmission. VERY happy with both of mine!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Cement Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE variable valve cont
- Stock #
- K30944A
- VIN
- 5TFSZ5AN9GX041282
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
White River ToyotaReviews
White River Toyota review
I had a great experience at White River Toyota a well deserved 5 star rating! I worked with Sheldon and would highly recommend. I came from out of town to look at a 2025 Tundra. He was prepared, had answers to all our questions, and made the process smooth. I normally hate vehicle shopping but, this was a pleasant experience. I was out of there in minimal time. I’m also even more impressed that I negotiated some floor mats and they arrived within days to my front door! Fantastic customer service!!!!
2016 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought this truck new after major styling change in Tacomas and traded in a 2008 Tacoma SR 5 and getting back 88% of what I paid for new in 2008. I've had no problems with this 2016 so far and never did with 2008 except fir window washer issue.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Army Green
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 27020A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN5NM519544
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGee Hyundai of LebanonReviews
McGee Hyundai of Lebanon review
When making the appt we got in within two days. Michale and staff were very friendly and competent. Didn’t take long to get the oil change done. This dealership has always been very helpful when we’ve stopped in.
2022 Toyota Tacoma review
Love this truck's features and look! Only criticism is leg room in backseat! Other than that, it is a great truck that will hold its value and build equity well! 9.5/10
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$29,898
Est. $545/mo Key Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of White River
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- K9141A
- VIN
- 3TYSX5EN4NT015938
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Key Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of White RiverReviews
2022 Toyota Tacoma review
Great little truck. will pretty much do all you need. Although comfort and engine are very lackluster. If you're tall, 6' and up. Buy the seat jackers you will need them. Autostart is very clunky as the engine shuts off when you open the door (so basically the same wear and tear as AutoStart/stop). the toyota app is not even on the table if you don't pay the subscription.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AZURE GRAY METALLIC TC
- Int. color
- DESERT BROWN TRIM
- Transmission
- 8-SPD AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.0L ECOBOOST ENGINE
- Stock #
- 15615A
- VIN
- 3FTTW8S90RRA28044
Features
- Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
Dealer
Formula FordReviews
Formula Ford review
Super Job by John. He worked hard to find what I was looking for, I really appreciate his efforts.
2024 Ford Maverick review
Only has had one glitch, the passenger window switch died after about a month, but that's what the warranty is for, and they fixed it. The hybrid is rated at 38 mpg I think, but I'm getting closer to 48, I log my mileage, so that's a reliable number. Front wheel drive so you don't have the light rear end traction issues. Feels and drives more like a car, but when you want to load stuff the bed is there. Unless you want a big heavy duty truck, which it isn't, there's nothing not to love about it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- P2562
- VIN
- 3TMDZ5BN9KM067449
Dealer
Formula FordReviews
Formula Ford review
Happy to come to Formula Ford as they are helpful and considerate.
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought a 2019 Tacoma with 89k. So far performance is fantastic and can definitely experience the quality build. This has made me skeptical of the reviews about poor engine build and transmission problems like hunting for gears. Can't pretty much dispel the proven track record of the 2019 as one of Toyota best build of the year. As for the transmission, it is still the best performing and reliable 6 speed transmission as compared to the other brands with high failure rates. One of the reason I stick with Toyota because I once had another brand manufacturer bought new and as soon as it hit over 100k, transmission problems or some solenoid problem. As for the engine, the dealer even included a lifetime engine warranty. That just tells me, they never expect the engine to fail. the review with the engine knocking sounds like an another brand car. it just doesn't happen to a toyota.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE variable valve cont
- Stock #
- 26718A
- VIN
- 5TFSZ5AN2HX116373
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGee Mazda ClaremontReviews
McGee Mazda Claremont review
From start to finish, I have never experienced buying a car like this. From our choice and paperwork and our car was delivered to us. We did it in our home on the computer and emails and texts and then our kitchen table finishing up. It was the best experience I have ever gone through on buying a car. Online even!! Kevin Bowie did a video of the car. All around, top, total inside of the car. He missed nothing. Did the tires too. It showed good tread on the tires. Just like I was there looking at the car. Tyler Minnick & Jessica Freeman stayed in touch to make sure all was going smoothly for us and it was. No one pushed us or ran loops around us. They made sure we were happy. When it arrived on my street I said oh my it is better than the video! Kevin Bowie & a driver named Dan brought our car to us. They even registered it for us. Plates coming in the mail. It was a pleasure. No headaches, no anxiety, no anger or aggravation. Go there online or their physical place. You won’t regret it. They are the best. They are McGee Mazda of Claremont! An awesome team ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
2017 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought my 2017 in spring of 2020 with 27k miles for $27k. I was specifically looking for a TRD Sport, manual trans. The Tacoma is the only manual trans truck produced anymore. I currently have 80k miles on it now and the blue book still shows it at $23k-$24k. I have not had any issues with it. I have done my own maintenance (oil changes and just recently front brake pads). The 2017 was the last year before they added all the safety stuff with the cruise controls. I'm glad I don't have that stuff. I also have the map system in my factory head unit and don't have to rely on the Apple carplay or Android auto apps. There was some discomfort in the seat. It was easily resolved with items that can be purchased to adjust the seat to your liking. There are a lot of complaints on the power and fuel mileage. Really?? Its a truck. Its not a sports car or compact sedan. Its not going to get the greatest mileage or set land speed records. If you want something that always starts, never leaves you stranded, and you can count on everyday, this is the one. If you want something that you want to spend a bunch of money repairing, you may want to look elsewhere.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I-4 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular gasoline, e
- Stock #
- ZP746A
- VIN
- 5TFUX4EN8DX020129
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGee Mazda ClaremontReviews
McGee Mazda Claremont review
Superb customer attention and care. Service was fast and excellent! Appreciate the feedback and explanation of what the techs found during visit .
2013 Toyota Tacoma review
Truck was a champ. Mileage slightly less than advertised but still decent. Felt like sitting in a lifted car but was smooth on oilfield goat trails and held up real well saving gas compared to other full-size trucks. I think the fake hood scoop was xxxxxxxx but otherwise a great truck. 4x4 in mud snow and icy roads was excellent. Real reliable truck.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Boulder
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- TR183540
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN3SM183540
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGee Toyota of ClaremontReviews
McGee Toyota of Claremont review
I absolutely love McGee Toyota for vehicle selection and award winning service! John in services is the best, as well as the rest of the crew! They all do a great job and are pretty quick to get you in and out with hardly any wait time!!! I totally recommend this dealership to anyone looking for awesome quality vehicles and amazing service for the life of your purchase!!!
2025 Toyota Tacoma review
Just got a new 2025 Tacoma SR5 in the blue slush color. I love my new Taco and Temecula Toyota gave me a smoking deal on lt. I looked around at some other trucks. The Jeep Gladiator was kind of nice but they are having major problems with them. The Nissan frontier is a nice looking truck, but you don’t see many on the road. There must be a reason for that. lol. Ford was not willing to deal on the F150 price. I’ve had a few Toyotas and Lexus and they run for ever with no problems.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 261614A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN4PM651181
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGee Toyota of ClaremontReviews
McGee Toyota of Claremont review
I had a wonderful buying experience for my 2026 Rav 4! Kayla was amazing to work with! She was attentive and never made me feel pressured! I highly recommend McGee Toyota.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
Best mid size truck hands down!! Very reliable and handling is incredible. The V6 in this truck is a beast! Bullet proof!!!! Plenty of power for this truck 👍 it’s not a race car, it’s a beast of a 4X4 and has enough power to get the job done.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alto Blue Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Navy Pier/Medium Slate
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable
- Stock #
- FD262803A
- VIN
- 3FTTW8F90PRA13471
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Bob Johnson Used-North CountryReviews
2023 Ford Maverick review
Got my XLT with black appearance option in may of 2023. Well worth waiting for 8 months. Have had the best luck with this truck. Have 28,000 miles and main battery just got replaced under warranty. None of those recalls ever pertained to this truck. Couldn’t be happier with this truck. Non plug in Hybrid . Great city mpg and rides great. Recommend to anyone wanting a small truck.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- VC26188
- VIN
- 1C6HJTAG7LL142093
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jim Schmidt ChevroletReviews
Jim Schmidt Chevrolet review
Service was good , got my truck in and out quickly . Was pleased that I got it back right away.
2020 Jeep Gladiator review
my grandmother sadly traded in this gladiator i wish she would have kept it . It is very comfortable,reliable,it look great on the outside,it has enough power,and its value is very good.
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$39,706
Est. $724/mo McGee Chevrolet of Middlebury
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wind Chill Pearl
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 250421A
- VIN
- 3TYCZ5AN8PT154994
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
McGee Chevrolet of MiddleburyReviews
McGee Chevrolet of Middlebury review
Mcgees made the shopping for a car experience easy and satisfying. They allowed me to test drive multiple cars and once i found the one i wanted they got me the best apr and monthly payment. I highly suggest going to mcgees when your in need of a new car
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
A great factory set up to start modifications. Upgrade OTT tune to rid gear hunting, seat jackers for better ride comfort. Add a leaf or suspension helper in rear to plant rear tires, upgrade front and rear shocks. Front factory springs pair perfectly with bilstein 5100s for better offroad handling.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L 4-Cylinder
- Stock #
- T16647A
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JNXRM022449
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
Faith's Toyota Westminster review
Second vehicle that I have bought from this dealership in two years. They have an excellent sales department with knowledgeable employees, excellent service department and courteous and respectful staff. This is a new facility, beautifully designed and very clean bathrooms that speak for themselves. In each of my two purchased I received a fair trade price on my two vehicles and a discount from the MSRP posted on the windows of my new Highlander.
2024 Toyota Tacoma review
New owner of a 2024 Limited, extremely happy with the driving comfort, even though it does have a restricted leg room in the backseat which seldom is used. Upgraded technology inside the cabin with the 14 inch screen and the dial controls for the radio four-wheel-drive and HVAC controls. I really like the spray in bedliner power tailgate the exterior bed lights and the power steps also the rear sliding power window. my fuel economy is about 22 miles per the gallon but as of now it’s only got 1000 miles on it so I’m anticipating that to improve as the engine gets broken in. I do find that the standard turbo four-cylinder makes a slight rumble going uphill, but I have ordered a sound attenuation pad for under the hood and that should eliminate that. I find the driver in passenger seats to be equally comfortable with good bolstering as well as a lumbar support system that is four ways. I was a previous owner of a Ford F150 and a Dodge Ram 1500, but I wanted a pick up truck that would fit in my garage. Having have been a previous Toyota owner, I am looking forward to many years of problem free concerns based on the high-quality of Toyota and also the ACSI rating number of 83.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gy
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- D7326
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN5SM167615
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Benson AutoReviews
Benson Auto review
Nicest and most helpful dealer I have ever been to my buying process was excellent
2025 Toyota Tacoma review
Toyota is just a great brand… My new Tacoma eats a little more gas than my previous one, probably because of the turbo. The performance, however, is great! It’s very comfortable, I notice it the most on long drives. I find the nighttime visibility really good compared to any other car that I’ve ever owned: The tech is okay but I want a lot more.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Cement Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- V6
- Stock #
- SF13142D
- VIN
- 5TFSZ5AN5HX069825
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
2017 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought this truck new , it has 30000 miles on it ! Great truck, have never had a problem with it. Excellent acceleration, about 18, 19 miles per gallon, 6 cylinder.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 PDI DOHC 24V LEV3-ULEV70 278hp
- Stock #
- T16159A
- VIN
- 3TYCZ5AN4PT160243
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
Faith's Toyota Westminster review
For anyone out there looking to buy a new or used car or truck, my recent purchase at Faith Ford/Toyota was a very pleasant and positive experience.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
I’ve owned Toyota’s for over 20 years and have not been disappointed. My 2023 Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 keeps that tradition. I bought the 23 model year for the naturally aspirated V6 engine given that in 24 the model went to a 4 cylinder turbo. I’ve only had it for a month but love everything about it. The build quality is true to Toyota and the ride is comfortable. I’m very happy with my purchase.
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$31,998
Est. $584/mo Faith's Toyota Westminster
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cement
- Int. color
- Black/Gun Metal
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 PDI DOHC 24V LEV3-ULEV70 278hp
- Stock #
- T16430A
- VIN
- 5TFCZ5AN2KX205761
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
Faith's Toyota Westminster review
I had an amazing experience purchasing my new car. Thank you for making the process so easy! Great team
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
This vehicle met all my work and play needs. It has been comfortable, reliable, and capable. It has plenty of room for family and friends.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Spruce
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 4.0L V6 EFI DOHC 24V
- Stock #
- T16618A
- VIN
- 5TFUU4EN8CX043420
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
2012 Toyota Tacoma review
My 2012 Tacoma is a Crew Cab Long bed 4WD model. Its is one of the best trucks I have ever owned. 5 Stars in all categories
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P4207
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN4PM560363
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
McGee Ford of MontpelierReviews
McGee Ford of Montpelier review
Kim and Dustin were awesome to work with. Very satisfied with purchase of my car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Red
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 PDI DOHC 24V LEV3-ULEV70 278hp
- Stock #
- U9281
- VIN
- 3TYCZ5AN4PT171095
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
Faith's Toyota Westminster review
My Sales Consultant, Maurice Pushee, and everyone else I dealt with were very professional and pleasant. Maurice found the exact car I wanted. I would certainly recommend Faith Toyota to anyone looking to buy a Toyota.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
From top to bottom probably the best automobile I’ve ever owned.Ive owned several different types of vehicles and not one reached the level of performance as my Toyota Tacoma.it is the perfect vehicle for me.
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$41,998
Est. $766/mo Faith's Toyota Westminster
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Cap
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6
- Stock #
- ST16695A
- VIN
- 3TMDZ5BN0PM164546
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
This truck is one of the best ever made and with only 2300 miles it should be advertise as new barely used you have see to believe!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 PDI DOHC 24V LEV3-ULEV70 278hp
- Stock #
- T16308A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN3NM524127
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
Faith's Toyota Westminster review
Straight forward pricing and no hidden fees. Quick respons to my inquiry. Professional team. 2026 camry
2022 Toyota Tacoma review
Was looking for a mid-size truck to replace a big Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71 and a small 90's model Chevy S-10 pickup. Was interested in the new gen Nissan Frontier but went with the Tacoma. My first ever Tacoma truck. A 2022 SR with the V-6 motor and SX package. Purchased it used with about 9,000 miles on it. Overall I really like the size and style of the vehicle. The previous owner put a leveling kit and wheel spaces on it. As well as 285 AT tires. It has that go anywhere look. And while it has the power, the tranny is lackluster. And it rides like a truck which is good and bad. I've had a lot of compliments on it so it's obvious there are a lot of Taco fans out there. I got it at a fair deal and you just can't beat the reliability factor. Probably won't be my last Tacoma because this one meets or exceeds most all my expectations. Happy camper here!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Crush Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L 4-Cylinder
- Stock #
- T16658A
- VIN
- 3TYKB5FN8RT002760
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Faith's Toyota WestminsterReviews
2024 Toyota Tacoma review
The Gen 4 Tacoma is very nice. There are a few issues that Toyota should have never allowed. First, as in the Gen 3, the drivers side assist handle is missing. That is a nice feature that should be in the truck. Second, the glove box door looseness is an embarrassment. It is disgustingly loose. I was able to buy some inserts online for $11. Toyota ought to be doing that for all the trucks. Third, the electronic stuff is WAY WAY WAY overboard. Way too much and way to confusing and way to difficult to shut off and keep off. I want a truck I can drive, not wrestle with the electronics. The notion of not being able to buy desired options is terrible. I do not need a power tailgate and inability to open the tail gate without a key. Either pay $4000 for some thinks you want or pay $8000 to get lots of stuff you don't want just to get 1 or 2 things you do want. The electronic dashboard is way overboard. Another 'feature' that is way overboard and can not be simplified. This is a truck, how about some analog gauges? The good part is the ride is amazingly solid and smooth, performance is pretty snappy for a relatively heavy vehicle and I expect Toyota longevity. Overall, the basic truck is nice, but the extra stuff is unwanted, unnecessary and adds complexity that is not desired
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