New and used Chevrolet cargo vans for sale near Maple Heights, OH
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$52,145
MSRP $47,995
Est. $960/mo Spitzer Chevrolet Northfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- C25NF648
- VIN
- 1GCWGAF75S1254879
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Chevrolet NorthfieldReviews
Spitzer Chevrolet Northfield review
Dave was our salesman and he was amazing. So friendly and easy to talk to. He understood our needs and worked very hard to help us find the right fit. He was very knowledgeable about the vehicles, but if he did not know something, he spent some time to figure it out and showed us the next time we returned. We wanted to use our own credit union for financing to get the best interest rate possible. We felt a little pressure by the manager to try to use the finance companies through the dealership, even to the point that the finance guy was brought out to speak to us. We politely listened to what he had to say and declined his offer. When we came back to purchase the vehicle and had to sit down with him to complete the paperwork, he seemed a little put off and would not make eye contact with us. It felt like he was pouting because we did not allow him to try to get our car financed. Seems to me that should be something that he could shrug off a little easier than he did.
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$52,145
MSRP $47,995
Est. $960/mo Spitzer Chevrolet Northfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- C25NF657
- VIN
- 1GCWGAF78S1256576
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Chevrolet NorthfieldReviews
Spitzer Chevrolet Northfield review
Great service, answered all my questions, sales person was not pushy, let me make the decision.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- V7823
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP1S1165116
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7918
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFPXS1254375
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7917
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP3S1254329
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7916
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP6S1251134
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7912
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP9S1262645
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7892
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP3S1251141
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7842
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP4S1254369
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





$49,943
Est. $920/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 67927
- VIN
- 1GCWGBF75T1203549
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of AuroraReviews
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora review
I bought a 2024 GMC ,nice leader. Explained the deal over the phone. I was looking for more for my truck, but I am happy with what I bought.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7894
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP9S1256294
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- V7818
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP7S1250901
Features
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7854
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP0S1254367
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc.Reviews
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. review
Ed was very helpful and the process purchasing the truck was quick and painless. I’m glad I drove from Columbus to purchase he truck. Ed also held the truck when I said I was on my way.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- V7853
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP3S1254380
Features
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morris Buick GMC, Inc. -





$40,033
Est. $737/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 66833
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP7S1206588
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of AuroraReviews
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora review
They were informetive, and to the point. They showed me the finer points of the vehicle.
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$49,943
Est. $920/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 67928
- VIN
- 1GCWGBF75T1203552
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora -





$40,033
Est. $737/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 66915
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP9S1206690
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of AuroraReviews
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora review
I have had dealings with this dealership before. They are a great group of people.
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$10,426
Est. $192/mo Eddie Auto Brokers
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- RWD
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- E9990
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP7J1319990
Features
- Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Eddie Auto BrokersReviews
Eddie Auto Brokers review
I drove from Memphis TN to Cleveland OH to buy a car from Eddie, I'd do it all over again without a second thought. I've bought many cars but this way by FAR the best experience I've ever had from an auto dealership. Eddie and his wife aside from being very nice and great people, are honest, fair, and genuinely care about the cars they sell and the people they are selling them to. I strongly advise anybody looking for a car to shop here. There's a reason why he's been in business so long. As a business owner, I really like for my money not just to go towards a quality product, but to go to good people, that's exactly the case with Eddie's Auto Broker. Not only will he put you in a good car, but you'll walk away knowing you got a good deal and your money went to a great family and a great business.
2018 Chevrolet Express 2500 review
Looking for MPG went for the V6, I know it isn't a race car but some more umf would be good, haven't tried towing yet.
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$40,033
Est. $737/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 66987
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP0S1206626
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of AuroraReviews
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora review
Great people. I'm in the process of deciding which vehicle I want to purchase. You could do none worse.
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$40,033
Est. $737/mo Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 66906
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP4S1206659
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of AuroraReviews
Ken Ganley Chevrolet of Aurora review
Our friend TED POWELL took us to see MICHAEL LANHAM At Ganley Chevrolet of AURORA 310 W. Garfield Road Aurora, OH 44202. We were interested in purchasing a Chevy truck. MICHAEL showed us several trucks and we decided to purchase the 2026 Chevy Silverado heavy duty extended cab. MICHAEL was very very professional kind, courteous patient and very pleasant. No pressure took the time to explain everything that we asked of him needless to say the customer service that we received was above excellent. He made every effort to get us exactly what we wanted and he succeeded what an asset he is to gainly Chevrolet of AURORA. I would recommend all of my friends and family to him. My husband and I are very big on excellent customer service and MICHAEL did not fearless when it came to that we went to other dealerships and did not receive the deals that MICHAEL gave us. We will soon be purchasing a Chevy track and guess what we will be coming back to see Michael when that happens MICHAEL thank you so much for your kindness for the excellence in The way you represent Ganley Chevrolet of AURORA we are over the top in love with our new truck and look forward to enjoying it for many years to come. Thank you again Michael. You truly are an asset to this company. Keep up the great work that you are doing last, but not least. I would also like to give a shout out to.Ian In FINANCE, you did an excellent job closing our deal and explaining everything thoroughly at the closing of this process, you were kind patient considerate and just an all-around nice guy. We really appreciate you the experience that we had was outstanding absolutely continued success to you. Ian And never change who you are God has you in the right place you have the perfect personality for the job and keep smiling. You are a great person. I wish you all the best in life MICHAEL continue to be real as you are with your customers and you will go far in life. God bless you all and thank you again for the excellent customer service that we received.
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$48,392
MSRP $44,880
Est. $891/mo Serpentini Chevrolet - Strongsville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 251721
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP7S1172698
Features
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serpentini Chevrolet - StrongsvilleReviews
Serpentini Chevrolet - Strongsville review
Bought my new 2025 Chevy equinox at Serpentini Chevrolet. I?ve had it almost a year. It was due for a first time oil change service was good and fast.
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$25,585
Est. $471/mo Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc.
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 11-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.8L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- BB6999
- VIN
- 1GCWGFCF2F1216797
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc.Reviews
Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc. review
We had been looking for a long time for a good used car to make a long daily commute to and from work. It was frustrating trying to stay in budget! Many of the dealerships we were looking at either had high prices for cars with little to no repair or cleaning, or they DID take care of those things and had the higher sticker price to go with it. Godard had a great selection of really nice cars at really fair prices. What a breath of fresh air! Very laid-back atmosphere -- no high pressure sales. They are confident of what they are selling and the price they are asking, so no need for those tactics. A really nice establishment; comfortable, not flashy. The cars are nicely situated, easy to look at. They have the price displayed on each car (we started walking away from dealers who wouldn't do this). We have already put almost 200 miles on the car and haven't had any trouble. I am SO glad we finally found them!
2015 Chevrolet Express 2500 review
Love the room and the power. Hate the bouncy, bumpy ride. With no drink holders.seatbelts for the very back seat would tighten scary tight around a small child.
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$41,303
Est. $761/mo Serpentini Chevrolet Medina
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 251031
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP3S1206202
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serpentini Chevrolet MedinaReviews
Serpentini Chevrolet Medina review
The best experience I could ever ask for. Straightforward and honest in a way no other dealer has been in all my years. Clean facilities, great selection of new and used cars and even a play area. Thanks for the wonderful new truck and a great deal!
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$52,937
MSRP $48,825
Est. $975/mo Serpentini Chevrolet - Strongsville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 262146
- VIN
- 1GCWGAF74T1225343
Features
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serpentini Chevrolet - StrongsvilleReviews
Serpentini Chevrolet - Strongsville review
Kyle was great. Professional and courteous. Explained the current status of brakes and tires. It was just a heads-up for me as,to what to expect in the future. Serpentini dealership accommodates customers waiting for their car service.
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$31,985
Est. $589/mo Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc.
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.0L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- CC7209
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFG5J1276668
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc.Reviews
Godard Auto Sales & Leasing Inc. review
I absolutely can't believe how helpful the entire staff is. We showed up under pressure to buy a car when the engine blew in the one we were driving. The salesmen greeted us in the parking lot and made us feel very welcome but not in a pushy way. They wanted us to walk the lot and feel free to drive any we thought would work with our budget. The finance department is wonderful. Our credit has taken a hit due to the economy but they were very helpful explaining things to us and helping us through what we found to be a horrible experience at other dealerships. I can't say enough about how friendly and helpful the staff is. Again, NOT in a pushy way; it felt genuine. We doubt we will ever purchase from another establishment since finding Godard Auto Sales! I would highly recommend them. K & K PS Really liked being able to look at the cars on the website (great way to save some time.)
2018 Chevrolet Express 2500 review
I've had my 2018 Exress passenger van for about 5-6 years now, I chose a van because trucks are so expensive. I've towed a few cars with it, some heavy loads of gravel, and have towed a large pop up camper quite a few times even through some of Eastern U.S. mountains and it does fine. Its been reliable and the 6.0 litre V8 and 6 speed Auto heavier duty transmission are known to last a long time according to what I've read. I had a crew cab Nissan titan that was quieter as far as road noise goes but I guess its not too bad, its a van after all. Kinda get a drum effect with all the empty space in it. I remove most of my seats or all of them to haul stuff, plywood, bicycles, furniture, or whatever else I need to haul. It will get 17.5-18.2 mpg at 70mph which isn't good but I guess it could be worse, after all its kinda a box on wheels. Overall It does what it needs to and runs well with plenty of power for what I do. I have the shorter WB version, with all the seats out you have close to 10ft of area to pack stuff in it.
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$41,443
Est. $763/mo Serpentini Chevrolet Tallmadge
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 5G1696
- VIN
- 1GCWGBF74S1173944
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serpentini Chevrolet TallmadgeReviews
Serpentini Chevrolet Tallmadge review
Max Lenc is the best salesman I’ve ever had. I’ve bought many new cars from many new places but Max is the best. We’ve purchased two vehicles from him. Anyone who needs a new car go see him!
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$50,812
MSRP $47,945
Est. $936/mo Biggers Chevrolet
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 6.6L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 3250442
- VIN
- 1GCWGAF70S1193473
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Biggers ChevroletReviews
Biggers Chevrolet review
Flew in from St. Louis, drove back that afternoon. Dealership picked me up at the airport and made the whole process easy. I?d do it again.
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$47,547
Est. $875/mo Sport Chevrolet Cadillac
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- T1196567
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP0T1196567
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sport Chevrolet CadillacReviews
Sport Chevrolet Cadillac review
Coming into the experience, I expected there to be attempts to manipulate or to be taken advantage of. Unfortunately my pervious experiences have driven that mentality. This experience was a revelation. Every member of the sales team was professional yet approachable. They found the right vehicle and made every step easy and understandable. Our salesman Charles had knowledge and charisma. There was never pressure. He just presented us with facts and let the product sell itself. The sales manager gave us the best offer hands down and we shopped the entire state. Charles and the Chevy team educated us on the car and the systems it boasts. We are extremely satisfied customers and would be willing for let anyone know about our wonderful experience. Thanks again Sports Chevy Team. Continue you excellent work. P.S. I know this sounds like a review written by the company but I assure you this is a real customer with a real experience.