Used Dodge cars for sale near Fresno, CA
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- DB Black Clearcoat
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- Black
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- All-wheel Drive
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- 17-24
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
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- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- TC182607PR
- VIN
- 1C4RDJDG8TC182607
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- Heated Seats
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Lithia Hyundai of FresnoReviews
2026 Dodge Durango review
I purchased the Dodge Durango GT Plus. I wanted to make sure it would have the features that I truly wanted. I have ventilated seats and a sunroof. I am in love with the comfortability of the vehicle and the room inside of it. I like the sleek look and it drives so smooth. I would recommend
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$14,999
Est. $262/mo Lithia Hyundai of Fresno
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- Ext. color
- Phantom Black Tri-Coat Pearl
- Int. color
- Pearl/Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- FH722955PX
- VIN
- 2C3CDZBT1FH722955
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- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
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- Remote Start
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Lithia Hyundai of FresnoReviews
Lithia Hyundai of Fresno review
Salesman Jacob very knowledgeable And great to work with. Showed and explained all details! Thank you Jacob.
2015 Dodge Challenger review
We drove 633 miles each way to pick up the Challenger Scat Pack of our dreams with a six-speed. Can not get over the immense power of 392 Hemi. Torque for days!!! The over all retro styling is absolutely gorgeous. Could not be more happy with our purchase. Best car and value we have ever owned. Highly recommend.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
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- AWD
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- R2943R
- VIN
- 1C4RDJDG0SC539907
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
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- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Selma Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Selma Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
First time here and I had a very good experience. They gave me discounts and the service was fast. Definitely coming back here in my next service.
2025 Dodge Durango review
I recently rented a 2023 Dodge Durango GT RWD for a summer-family vacation. I was impressed by its smooth ride, comfort, and overall refinement. The SUV felt economical yet luxurious, with surprisingly wide interior space. I particularly appreciated the third-row seating, which was designed thoughtfully to provide ample legroom without increasing the vehicle’s overall length. After this excellent experience with the rental car in Florida, I’ve decided to buy a new Durango GT Plus AWD. I really like it and believe it will remain a trusted companion for a long time—more enduring than the average vehicle.
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- Vice White
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- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- P9942
- VIN
- 1C4RDHDG6MC749942
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
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- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Madera ChevroletReviews
Madera Chevrolet review
Robert English was great help to me and my family I Recommend anybody to come and see him
2021 Dodge Durango review
I researched a lot of 7-seater SUVs before deciding on a 1 year old Durango... we needed something that could haul our 5 kids and also double as a commuter car with good cargo space for my husband, who travels to construction job sites all over the place. We both love our RAM trucks (mine is the 2500 horse hauler), so Dodge was a natural choice for us, but we opted for the V6 model for better gas mileage than our Hemis. The Durango did not disappoint!! I've seen other reviews complaining about the power of the SXT... what do you honestly expect, people?! It's a 3-row SUV, a V6 simply can't put out the HP to move it like the Hellcat would (ohh, that one must be sweet!!). That being said, we're still pleased with the performance... which is impressive for a vehicle of this size. It still hauls @ss and handles like a dream, and we live on a ranch in the Rockies so good handling on mountain roads in all manner of nasty weather conditions is an absolute MUST for us. You can tell the Durango is modeled on the Challenger chassis so it's basically a race car of an SUV, even in the V6 model. Do yourself a favor and splurge on some d@mn good all-season tires like Michelin LTX for optimum performance in any road conditions. We've been very impressed with the fuel economy, it does well - even with my husband rallying up and down the mountain and dusting people left & right on his daily commute. Haha! That's one advantage over the V8 models, which guzzle gas as bad as our big RAM trucks. We even run it with the Eco Boost turned off, and often in Sport mode. One thing my husband's not fond of is the fact that there is only one special jack included... and no mounts for floor jacks or jack stands. A second jack from the dealer is almost $300. So husband spent some time in his metal shop to fab an adapter for a second scissor jack, so he could rotate tires and change the oil. It's a non issue if you take your car in for service, but if you're the type to wrench on your own vehicles, it's something to bear in mind. Interior design is nice... the only small beef I've got is the 2nd row seat backs fold down, but the whole seat doesn't fold up to more easily access the 3rd row. It's not an issue for our kids clambering over, but it could be awkward for an adult. So the little ones go in the back. Overall, we're really pleased with our Durango SXT - even for the base model, it's got enough whistles and bells to keep us happy, and an impressive performance to economy ratio. Definitely worth every penny of the purchase price, and it's a vehicle we'll keep for a very long time.
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- Ext. color
- No Color
- Int. color
- Medium Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Magnum 3.7L V-6 regular unleaded, engine with 210HP
- Stock #
- 5390
- VIN
- 1D7HE22K75S148730
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
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Jaber MotorsReviews
Jaber Motors review
After searching everywhere online for a vehicle, I discovered jaber motors! Amazing experience from start to finish. Price point was great, paperwork was smooth, and I got a full tank of gas! Super happy with my experience.
2005 Dodge Dakota review
I have owned my 2005 Dodge Dakota 4.7 Laramie since 2012 as of writing this is in the middle of August 2025. I have had no issues with my truck. The truck runs perfect I’ve towed heavy loads many times over 500 miles. This is the best vehicle I’ve ever had. I had a 1986 Toyota pick up with a 22 R engine that blew the head gaskets twice back in 1992. I’ve had a 2016 Toyota Highlander that one was OK but the interior started cracking. I have a 2020 Kia Telluride had to replace the transmission. I’ve had a 1985 GMC blazer had to replace the engine in 1992 with less then 100,00 miles on it. Right now my truck sits on 18 inch rims 31 inch tires no suspension lift. The 2005 dakota has KO 3 all terrain 31 inch tires and has a bunch of overland equipment on it with a Ikamper tent In the interior it has no cracks or blemishes. I can tell you that this is probably the best truck I will own for the rest of my life I don’t plan to ever get rid of it like I said this is a solid truck. I love it. The truck also has over 170,000 miles on it. No transmission issues no engine issues no issues at all. i’ve also taken it out trailing in a mountains, terrain where you see Toyota Trd pros jjeeps, and everything and I get a lot of compliments on it.
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$21,176
Est. $370/mo Mountain West Motor - Twin Falls
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- Ext. color
- Inferno Red Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Khaki
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 diesel direct injection, intercooled turbo, die
- Stock #
- ST9888A
- VIN
- 3D7KS28A48G122336
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
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Mountain West Motor - Twin FallsReviews
2008 Dodge Ram 2500 review
I love this truck performs very well can’t wait to hook up my trail to It. Steve was more than willing to work with me I’m Very happy with Our deal
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$17,498
Est. $305/mo Mountain West Motor - Twin Falls
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Dark Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 5.9L I-6 diesel direct injection, intercooled turbo, die
- Stock #
- ST9687A
- VIN
- 3D7KU28603G740011
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
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Mountain West Motor - Twin FallsReviews
2003 Dodge Ram 2500 review
I purchased my truck new on Dec 31, 2002. It is an 03 crew cab, short box, Cummins HO, 6 speed manual. I still own it today with 315,000 miles very few repairs, oil change every 5K, 3 front end rebuilds, one water pump, a fan clutch, a new drivers seat pad and bottom cover, and a steering gear box. Surprisingly enough, I still have factory injectors. Absolutely the best truck I have ever owned BY FAR. Still gets up to 27 MPG and can pull just about anything you hook onto it. still looks new inside and out. I recently converted it to a dually to make it even more stable pulling my fifth wheel. Seems to be worth more today than what I paid for it 20 years ago.
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- Orange
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- BLACK
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70025249
- VIN
- 2C3CDXMGXNH154935
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- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
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- Leather Seats
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CarMax VisaliaReviews
2022 Dodge Charger review
Amazing experience, the process was very easy with excellent customer service. I didn't feel overwhelmed with paper work or a lot of unnecessary questions. Just strait to the point and sale.
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- Gray
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- BLACK
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- Four-wheel Drive
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- 18-25
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28535787
- VIN
- 1C4RDJDG1PC585494
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- Remote Start
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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CarMax VisaliaReviews
2023 Dodge Durango review
I was the second owner for a 2023 Durango Hellcat Premium Plus. I wish I would have purchased this car first before my charger ScatPack. The Durango is a family car and it’s safer to drive. With the power and has lots of room I Woolsey say it’s a great car. I’m sure they’ll have them around in 6 years I’ll buy another hellca t Durango destroyer gray with the black red rally stripes!
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- Ext. color
- Purple
- Int. color
- BLACK
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70017924
- VIN
- 2C3CDXHG5NH246075
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- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
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- Alloy Wheels
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CarMax VisaliaReviews
2022 Dodge Charger review
the car is absolutely amazing…. but they are out of there xxxx minds if they think this car is worth $70,000 . Completely over priced and someone is trying to screw someone over big time. The car is not worth that much and we have yet reached a time where they are no longer selling them at dealerships. There are a lot still out here and selling very well. This person who ever put that $70,000 price tag on this car is insane and shouldn’t be aloud to sell fruit no less a car smh.
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- Gray
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- BLACK
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28650226
- VIN
- 2C3CDXBG3PH656515
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- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
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- Satellite Radio
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CarMax VisaliaReviews
2023 Dodge Charger review
I have had several Chargers over a lot of years, and this is the best! It is just so stupid that Dodge quit making one of their best selling cars.
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- Smoke Show
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- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-24
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 premium unleaded, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- 25RM288A
- VIN
- 2C3CDXGJ6MH579624
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
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- Bluetooth®
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- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
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- Stability Control
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Sager CDJRReviews
2021 Dodge Charger review
Big shoutout to Miguel for the help with my Dodge Charger GT. Great car and overall 10/10 customer service. Thank you, Miguel! The car runs great, very comfortable and smooth.
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- Ext. color
- Granite Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 8-Speed
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 premium unleaded, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- 9957
- VIN
- 2C3CDZFJ9GH351442
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
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- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Hanford Auto SalesReviews
2016 Dodge Challenger review
I like the heated seats and steering wheel. The Handling is amazing and xxxx it’s quick whenever your 4 year old son falls in love with it you know it’s going to always be in the family
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 9934
- VIN
- 2C4RDGCG3FR541703
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Hanford Auto SalesReviews
Hanford Auto Sales review
The salesman George was helpful and didn't use any pressure tactics. The deal we made was pleasant and quick saving us time.
2015 Dodge Grand Caravan review
Just purchased another used Grand Caravan, this is the sixth one over past number of years, found it to be a very reliable and versatile vehicle. Always managed to get 300,000 Klm on each one, never had any major issues other then brakes and normal maintanence . Just purchased 2015 and in excellent condition given the year but is in Limp mode with code P1745 showing on meter. Just hoping it's under a recall , sure would like to get mobile again.
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- Ext. color
- Redline 2 Coat Pearl
- Int. color
- Black/Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- 9946
- VIN
- 3C4PDDEG1KT771086
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Hanford Auto SalesReviews
2019 Dodge Journey review
Great performance, great handling. The dual zone A/C is a really nice feature. I actually like the rearview being in the mirror, it's a good safety feature, as your eyes are in fewer places.
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- Ext. color
- White Knuckle Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 25RM296
- VIN
- 1C4RDHDG1LC301669
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
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- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Sager CDJRReviews
2020 Dodge Durango review
Bought new in 2020. Has only 23,000 miles . Love this car. Roomy, comfortable, has 3 row seating and the hatch back for easy carrying groceries and unloading. Peppy with the Hemi V8, but mileage is only 15-17 mpg. Don’t care because it’s fun to drive, good looking and easy to maneuver and park. All the whistle and bells on it. Probably my last car. Registered on NHTSA so have had no recalls. We do have a 2024 Ram with the Hemi. Will keep that one too.
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- Ext. color
- Go Mango
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 8-Speed
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 9958
- VIN
- 2C3CDZAG5GH301052
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Hanford Auto SalesReviews
2016 Dodge Challenger review
Bought this car new in July 2016, it has a been a great experience. It has 12,400 miles on it, and is barely broken in. Well engineered in my opinion.
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- Ext. color
- Contusion Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, r
- Stock #
- 9912
- VIN
- 3C4PDCBB8KT778927
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Hanford Auto SalesReviews
Hanford Auto Sales review
Great staff. Great prices, they have a service department at the rear of the dealership, and offer credit union financing options.
2019 Dodge Journey review
I have had this '19 GT for a little over a year and 10,000 miles or so, including two long trips. It is comfortable, performs reasonably well, and has a lot of helpful features, although not "the latest." I like the look of it (Black/Chrome trim), and my impression is that they made it as close to a Minivan as possible in an SUV. It has wide-opening rear doors, storage under the seats and cargo area, and three rows of seats. My actual fuel economy is about 22 on trips and 19 around town. I am entirely satisfied with the vehicle and have had no problems at all. As for the 3.6 I am very encouraged that they use this thing in everything from the Challenger to the RAM 1500, plus the Gladiator (only motor offered). They must have confidence in it.
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- Ext. color
- Pitch Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 25RM350
- VIN
- 2C3CDXBG1KH754628
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sager CDJRReviews
2019 Dodge Charger review
SXT AWD 3.6 V6 is a very comfortable and dependable car with enough power. I get 33 mpg on long trips and with AWD very handy for wet roads or snow. Lots of extra features like the Beats stereo and I also like the red door puddle lights, fold-down rear seat makes extra trunk hauling space, too. I recommend the Charger, No mechanical issues so far.
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