Used cars for sale near Hardwick, NJ
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$42,097
Est. $765/mo Mercedes-Benz of Newton
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- Ext. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- 46004A
- VIN
- W1Y4NBHYXRT171337
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Mercedes-Benz of NewtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Newton review
Sadly, due to circumstances, the process took longer than normal (nobody at fault, just life). Once we visited and talked to salesman, Sales Mgr. and took test drives, the process was smooth and mostly painless. All questions were answered and never felt pressured at any point of time. Was a pleasure dealing with Newton MB.
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- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Stock #
- 71968A
- VIN
- WBA13AW05RFR28385
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
Open Road BMW of Morristown review
Peter Kessell was excellent to deal with. He is very professional, knowledgeable, easy to talk to and likable. He responded quickly to question and followed up on the status of our new ordered vehicle. When received at the dealership he contacted us timely and the transaction process was quick, pre prepared, accurate and without issues. He presented the car to us and gave us a good understanding of the features in the car. These new car have many features and Peter was very knowable and explain them quickly and easily to understand. I can’t say enough about how Peter treated us and recommend him very highly. If you are looking for a great sales representative ask for Peter Kessell.
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- Ext. color
- Carbon Black Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- 71772B
- VIN
- 5UX23EM0XT9042200
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
Open Road BMW of Morristown review
Yesterday I went to pick up my 2024 X4 BMW at Morristown Dealership. My salesman was Rick Fanfan whom I think was amazing with his delivery. Getting me to feel comfortable and safe in my knew car and its remarkable features. As a sales man went back to ask for every thing that I was expecting. Thanks for all you did for me Rick and Felicia his manager who went out of her way to get the plan that was best for my needs. You guys exceeded my expectations. Thanks again.
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- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Grey Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- P18834
- VIN
- 3MW89FF05P8D52944
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
Open Road BMW of Morristown review
I bought a car from Debra. She is the best. I highly recommend her and open road
2023 BMW 330 review
I really like this car. It's very responsive, fast, stable, great turning and traction on the road. I gave it all 5 stars but please know that I ordered it new with the features and interior that I wanted. I live in the North East, so I got the all-wheel-drive.
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- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Grey Metallic
- Stock #
- P18815
- VIN
- WBA13BJ07PWY02006
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- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Grey Metallic
- Stock #
- 71892A
- VIN
- 5UX23EU05R9S93960
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
Open Road BMW of Morristown review
I bought an X5 from Debra. She was great and made the experience very Simple and quick. I would highly her.
2024 BMW X5 review
This is the best X5 I've ever owned. I've been using it for 2 years and this is my 4th BMW. It has never disappointed me, it's a fantastic SUV. I hope the next model will show the same success. I think the 3.0-liter engine is at its best.
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$14,148
Est. $257/mo Sussex Honda
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- Ext. color
- Frost White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 260888HA
- VIN
- 5XYZW4LA8HG482580
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Sussex HondaReviews
Sussex Honda review
The transition was really smooth- everything was perfect cannot complaint about nothing. I’m really happy with the services.Cristina did an amazing job. I would definitely recommend some family members and friends. Thank you so much.
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport review
Bought my 2017 Santa Fe Sport in 2018 with about 60K on it, it was a rental, and it now has 260K and have had no major issues. I have maintained it very well with a full synthetic oil change, Mobil 1 oil only, about every 6000 - 7000 miles. I will never go 10,000 miles without an oil change regardless of the 20,000 mile guarantee that Mobil 1 offers. Nothing but normal maintenance, tires, battery, serpentine belt etc. I realize that all of them are that reliable but I have had very good fortune with this one. And do not be afraid to buy a rental, they usually maintain them very well.
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- Ext. color
- Dark Graphite Metallic
- Stock #
- 72152A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP04R9U80576
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X3 review
BMW X3 an excellent car. I like the performance and enjoy using this luxurious car.🚘 I very much like having all the safety features.I appreciate BMW service.
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- Ext. color
- Alpine White
- Stock #
- P18807
- VIN
- 5UX53DP00P9S68285
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2023 BMW X3 review
Love it. Car is comfy, quick and the wonderful B58 Twin-Scroll Turbo I6 makes all the right noises! Awesome daily driver. Period! Interior has all of the amenities you could ever ask for. Ride is luxury-oriented but also can grip & RIP through the corners, almost as well as any sports sedan out there pretty much.
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- Ext. color
- Brooklyn Grey Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- 72594A
- VIN
- WBA63AT05RCP19207
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- Ext. color
- Phytonic Blue Metallic
- Stock #
- 71472A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP01P9S64357
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Open Road BMW of Morristown -
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- Ext. color
- Cashmere Silver Metallic
- Stock #
- P18335
- VIN
- WBA7T4C08NCH12559
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- Ext. color
- Sky
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 15741T
- VIN
- 5FNYG1H66PB031844
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Sussex HondaReviews
Sussex Honda review
We purchased our new Honda Passport . Our agent Kaia is amazing, she did the transaction smooth , quick and easy. Thank you Honda Sussex.
2023 Honda Pilot review
I purchased a 2023 Hilda Pilot from the Honda dealership on South Boulevard in Charlotte. I was treated like family from the moment that I arrived up until the moment that I drove off in my new vehicle. The service that I received from the sales associate, Christopher (Chris) Robinson specifically was absolutely amazing. Chris exceeded all of my expectations even though I was apprehensive about buying a brand new vehicle at the time. Chris put my mind at ease because he knew every detail about the car and he weighed out all of my options in a simplified manner. I will be sending all of my family and friends to Honda for their next auto purchase because Christopher Robinson knows how to take customer service to the next level while making you feel like you have a dear and trustworthy friend for life.
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- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Stock #
- P18855
- VIN
- WB523CF01RCN36987
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW iX review
I love this car, it has all the bells and whistles of a luxury car and a 300 mile range, full electric. I had the level 2 charger hooked up at my house and haven't been to the gas station since! This car does things I didn't even know it does--it can parallel park itself, pull out of a parking position by itself by using your phone (if you are parked too close to other vehicles to open door or if the car is in a muddy spot). After driving up to my gate callbox a few times (the clicker doesn't work so I have to enter the code) the car noticed I rolled the window down at that location, and asked if I'd like to have it automatically lower when we approach (which I do)! I love being able to put my foot under the hatchback if my hands are full and the trunk opening automatically. I was worried about running out of a charge, and granted, I haven't gone on any long trips yet, but charging overnight at home works perfectly fine for day to day usage. It is an expensive car, but I got a great deal leasing it and I think it's worth it. Slightly less trunk space than the x5 which I had before this, but as my kids have grown and moved out, I don't really need it as much. Surprising amount of torque--my husband was impressed.
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- Ext. color
- Dark Graphite Metallic
- Stock #
- P18852
- VIN
- WB523CF0XRCN52167
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- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Stock #
- 72266A
- VIN
- 5UX23EU09R9V60372
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X5 review
I have this car for 26,000 miles now. This is the best X5 that I have ever owned. The new engine is great on the xdrive 40i. No need for the M60. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. Handling is great. Tires and much better than on the previous generation. The ride is tight and comfortable. They did an awesome job. Hopefully, this car will last as long as my previous 2010 X5.
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- Phytonic Blue Metallic
- Stock #
- 72497A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP02R9U55210
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X3 review
Our salesman, Jonathan is a true professional. The dealership made this a painful experience. Never going back. The only reason we put up with 2 days of getting jerked around was because they were the nearest dealership that had the vehicle we wanted in stock. We'll never return.
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- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Stock #
- 72441A
- VIN
- 5UX23EU07R9U73537
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X5 review
Had the car for about a month and it is everything I wanted and more. Great purchasing experience. Even better driving experience. Definitely would recommend.
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$53,597
Est. $974/mo Mercedes-Benz of Newton
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CAMTRONIC variable valve
- Stock #
- L54121
- VIN
- W1N4M4HBXTW443351
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Mercedes-Benz of NewtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Newton review
Extremely easy process and great service that you all . From the outset drive alll the way thru the finance process the fastest most efficient buying experience we have ever had.
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- Ext. color
- Jet Black
- Stock #
- P18835
- VIN
- WBA73AV06PFP27300
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Open Road BMW of Morristown -
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- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Grey Metallic
- Stock #
- 71439A
- VIN
- WBA73AV09RFR00942
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- Ext. color
- Brooklyn Grey Metallic
- Stock #
- 72348A
- VIN
- 5UX33EM0XR9T82895
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X7 review
Most comfortable ride in an SUV I have been in. Handles very well, accelerates very fast and does not feel like you are driving that fast. Gas mileage has averaged 22 mpg. I like that the X7 has a third row and many features to it and really like using the My BMW app instead of carrying a key with me. There is a lot of technology in the X7 which takes time to understand on how to use.
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- Ext. color
- Phytonic Blue Metallic
- Stock #
- 72471A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP09R9T67738
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X3 review
Only have been driving the car for a week, but it is clearly the best SUV I have experienced. My wife drives the Mercedes 300 - a fine car as well, but I have always preferred BMY engine performance and handling. The X3 is simply a pleasure to drive.
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- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Stock #
- 72057A
- VIN
- 5UX33EM05S9W92183
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
Open Road BMW of Morristown review
Andrew Beifus is fantastic! I was a first time car buyer and he was so kind, generous with his time, carefully walked me through all the features of the car I was interested in, had the car prepped for me to drive, inclusive of having it say my name on the dashboard screen to welcome me when I got in the car. Andrew was available through each step of my car search and was patient with all my questions. He is a seasoned and experienced professional who understands the meaning of the client experience and made me feel like I was his priority and I came first and was there to fully support me in a momentous life occasion. I did not however enjoy my experience with the other individuals I interacted with. I found Andrew's colleagues to be condescending, demeaning and full of gender, race and age bias. In particular the finance manager was the most unpleasant individual to interact with. He openly tried to demean Andrew in front of his clients, then proceeded to try and educate me on what to do with my money (because I didn't want to finance my car and buy in cash) and I found that when interacting with me, he spoke/looked at my white female friend when talking vs looking at me when speaking, an Asian female who was actually buying the car. He then told me buying a car outright is the dumbest thing I could do. The entire time he explained the packages I should consider, I was so put off by his tone and definitely felt like there was not a single word I could trust coming out of his mouth. When I then asked when I would get my plates (I bought in NJ and live in NY), he then explained that the plates would come to the dealer and that I could come to the dealer to pick them up or they could ship to me. He suggested I come to the dealer bc as a girl with nails, I probably wouldn't know how to put the plates on myself (well I did put the plates on myself with no problem despite being a girl with nails). There was another manager who I believe was a general manager and was on Andrew to speed things along with me, when I explained that Andrew was providing me the service level I wanted, he backed off and adjusted his tone. I also did share to this manager that I did not appreciate the finance manager telling me what to do with my money, and he did agree that this was not appropriate. After I bought my car, my iphone noticed that there was an air tag in my car and when I called the dealer, this general manager was very responsive and did his best to calm my nerves that there was an unknown air tag tracking me. (I went to the BMW of Brooklyn service shop and they were so great in helping me find the air tag). Overall, Andrew was exactly the sales professional I needed in my car buying experience. I did not enjoy any other element of my experience at this dealer. And I do wonder if I was not given any financial breaks or scare tactic sold into things because they felt like they could take advantage of me as a first-time diverse female buyer. Given this was my first experience buying a used car, I can't say if this was an above or under par experience. But I can confidently say, Andrew is a pro and the finance manager needs bias training and held accountable for his words and behavior.
2025 BMW X7 review
Awesome to drive. Smooth around curves. Barely feel bumps in the road. Most comfortable seats ever had. Solid. Beautiful interior and exterior! Easy to park. Lots of room!
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.4L V-8 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable
- Stock #
- 54139
- VIN
- 5UXCY8C03L9B07531
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Mercedes-Benz of NewtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Newton review
Great buying experience. Staff was all very helpful, and knowledgable, and no pushy sales pitches at all.
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- Ext. color
- Tanzanite Blue II Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- 72220A
- VIN
- 5UX23EM05S9W25613
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Open Road BMW of Morristown -
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- Ext. color
- Phytonic Blue Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- 72227A
- VIN
- 3MW89FF04P8D52692
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- Ext. color
- Brooklyn Grey Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Stock #
- 72158A
- VIN
- WBA63AT07RCP53388
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- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Grey Metallic
- Stock #
- 71467A
- VIN
- 5UX53DP01R9X46541
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Open Road BMW of MorristownReviews
2024 BMW X3 review
I have had three BMWs, all with great reliability and high satisfaction, but this is my first BMW SUV. After 5 weeks of ownership, my 2024 X3 is on its way to becoming my all-time favorite. The handling is great, the safety features superb, and the comfort and luxury appearance have surpassed my expectations. We are so happy with this car that my husband is talking about getting one for himself, and he is an Audi and LandRover fan. BMW, thank you for your continued dedication to quality and reliability.
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28423440
- VIN
- 3PCAJ5BB8NF120456
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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CarMax MidlothianReviews
CarMax Midlothian review
A very simple straight forward process. The entire team from start to finish was well organized, experienced and very cordial. They have refined the entire process from start to finish and kept it simple and streamlined. I couldn't be happier!
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$28,597
Est. $520/mo Mercedes-Benz of Newton
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 54137
- VIN
- WDDHH8JB1GB180510
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Mercedes-Benz of NewtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Newton review
Embarking on the quest for automotive excellence, I found myself drawn to Mercedes-Benz of Newton, a bastion of luxury nestled amidst the scenic landscapes. Little did I know, this journey would transcend the mere acquisition of a vehicle, unraveling into an extraordinary saga of unparalleled service and professionalism. From the moment I crossed the threshold of Mercedes-Benz of Newton, I was enveloped in an aura of refinement and sophistication. The ambiance exuded a sense of grandeur, with meticulous attention to detail evident in every facet of the dealership. Greeted by a team of consummate professionals, I was immediately struck by their genuine warmth and unwavering dedication to ensuring an exceptional experience. Guided by their expertise and passion for automotive excellence, I embarked on a voyage of discovery, delving into the realm of Mercedes-Benz luxury. The staff at Mercedes-Benz of Newton epitomized professionalism, effortlessly navigating through the intricacies of the car-buying process with finesse and precision. Their unparalleled knowledge and unwavering commitment to customer satisfaction set a new standard of service excellence. As I laid eyes upon the AMG GLE 53 Mercedes-Benz, a masterpiece of engineering and design, I knew that I had found my automotive soulmate. The staff at Mercedes-Benz of Newton spared no effort in acquainting me with every nuance of this automotive marvel, unveiling its cutting-edge features and performance capabilities with unparalleled enthusiasm. The test drive was nothing short of exhilarating, as I experienced firsthand the seamless fusion of power and precision that defines the AMG GLE 53. Every curve of the road became a testament to the engineering prowess of Mercedes-Benz, with the vehicle effortlessly responding to my slightest command, igniting a symphony of excitement within me. Upon returning to the dealership, the purchasing process unfolded with effortless efficiency, guided by the expertise of the staff at Mercedes-Benz of Newton. Their transparency and integrity shone through every step of the process, instilling confidence and peace of mind as I finalized my purchase. Driving off the lot in my newly acquired AMG GLE 53 Mercedes-Benz, I couldn't help but reflect on the extraordinary journey I had embarked upon at Mercedes-Benz of Newton. Beyond mere transactional excellence, they had curated an experience that transcended expectations, leaving an indelible impression on my soul. In a world where luxury is synonymous with excellence, Mercedes-Benz of Newton reigns supreme, setting the bar for service and professionalism in the automotive industry. If you're seeking not just a vehicle, but an experience to cherish for a lifetime, look no further than Mercedes-Benz of Newton. Your journey to automotive opulence begins here.
2016 Mercedes-Benz E-Class review
Absolutely a delightful to drive, superb quality interior and excellent drive! I am very pleased with my 2016 Mercedes Benz E350 4Matic! Great info center!
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28718097
- VIN
- 3HGGK5H64JM707665
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
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CarMax RochesterReviews
CarMax Rochester review
The Transfer process was unfriendly. The vehicle I was interested in had to be released from My hold and I had to wait until it came back on the website to request s transfer.
2018 Honda Fit review
This things fits EVERYTHING! I purchased this preowned back in 2021 with 48k miles on it. With 4 years of ownership and only 13k miles later, I’ve only ever had to keep up with maintenance including a set of new tires and one recall. Last summer I did notice some plastic paneling in the rear rattling that drove me nuts but haven’t heard it since so let’s hope it doesn’t start anew. With it being so cheap to maintain and the fact it sips gas, I have a hard time finding a justifiable reason to upgrade!