Used hatchbacks for sale in Altoona, PA
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$21,390
Est. $387/mo Luther Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jet Black Mica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V
- Stock #
- H2819
- VIN
- JM1BPAKM9S1752819
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Luther Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAMReviews
Luther Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM review
Doug and Bob are the greatest! They always go out of their way to make sure my cars are well cared for. Fast and friendly service. I'd recommend them for service on any make or model of automobile or truck.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT Lineartronic
- Engine
- 2L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- D4069
- VIN
- JF1GUABC1R8308069
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Luther Ford EbensburgReviews
Luther Ford Ebensburg review
Dawn Morrison was the absolute best sales person I have ever worked with. I told her what I wanted an what I could afford an she did exactly what was needed to be done with zero hassle to me. Amazing buying experience! Thanks Dawn!!
2024 Subaru Impreza review
I love my new 24 Impreza black hatchback very slick looking car and drives like a dream. Big shout out to Wilsonville Subaru for helping me get a deal done on getting this car. Daniel Ramirez Cruz was very helpful especially and thoughtful of my time and what I wanted in looking for a vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Inferno Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 117059
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU5S7244397
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Team KiaReviews
Team Kia review
Dan at Team Kia went out of his way to help me today. I had no appointment just a request. Thank you Dan! Rosemary N.
2025 Kia Soul review
The car looks great. We have enjoyed the feel of the car on the road and the ease of use of the controls and rear view camera.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Inferno Red
- Int. color
- Gray 2-Tone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 117065
- VIN
- KNDJP3A55K7668947
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Team KiaReviews
2019 Kia Soul review
I purchased my 2019 Kia Soul with 52,000 miles on it in April last year. I now have 62,000 on it now. It looks good and drives great. No problems so far. Nice car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Nitrous Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.3L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- PV22810Z
- VIN
- WF0DP3TH5H4119695
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Bob Ruth FordReviews
Bob Ruth Ford review
They're Great! The team was respectful and very nice. Good job guys! I'll be back!
2017 Ford Focus RS review
If you have the chance to get your hands on one of these things, do it! This car will put mad smiles on your face everytime you drive it. An amazing little rocket by Ford. Suggestion: Get a paint correction, Ceramic coating and clear bra for the front and peeps won't stop staring at your RS. Also a Scorpion exhaust will make it sound incredible with all those pops and bangs. Incredible car! Thank Ford!
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$41,500
Est. $750/mo Ourisman Chevrolet of Rockville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 1.6L I3 12V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C398609C
- VIN
- JTNABAAE0RA011193
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ourisman Chevrolet of RockvilleReviews
Ourisman Chevrolet of Rockville review
The visit for service was uneventful. I waited, informed of what was needed & when it would be ready. Had a cup of tea, finished emails and then my car was ready.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Championship White
- Int. color
- Black / Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 2652DH
- VIN
- JHMFL5G41RX004987
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Spitzer Honda DuboisReviews
2024 Honda Civic Type R review
It’s what was best of the 17-21 then add more refinement. The +r mode can pogo sometimes but not a big deal since can program all the +r features with the comfort or sport suspension under individual. Sound system is fantastic, interior ergonomics are fantastic, spacious, 320 miles per tank which is good for a performance hatchback, track performance in stock form is fantastic, can hang with cars it’s not got business hanging with.
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$12,915
Est. $233/mo Spitzer Ford DuBois
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- Ext. color
- Nightfall Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-38
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 3782DFX
- VIN
- KL8CB6SA3NC016207
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Ford DuBoisReviews
Spitzer Ford DuBois review
Made things very fast and simple. We go the pleasure to have Lily Henry as our sales representative and she was very kind and not pushy or forcing us into buying. Excellent experience.
2022 Chevrolet Spark review
Keep in mind this rating is for a small gas fuel efficient economy car, it's way more than expected and for 2 years has not diminished my opinion at all. Good reliable car. Here in New England I have seen models from 2013 and newer still driven all over and even the prior avio models on the road too. BSic maintenance keeps them together. It is a good car!
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$9,076
Est. $164/mo Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 9222DGL
- VIN
- 3G1BE6SM0JS614241
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of DuboisReviews
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois review
The staff at Spitzers is very friendly and took care of my oil change quickly. Brandy remembered me from past visits and remembered that my son was hospitalized and even asked me about his health. That made me feel like family. Thank you! Click
2018 Chevrolet Cruze review
I, and my wife bought a 2018 Chevy Cruze LS Sedan in February 2018 brand new right off the back of the delivery truck. We simply take very good care of "PIP" as we call him, and he has and does take very good care of us. The key is keep up with all of the maintance before it is needed! Great car overall, only 41, 767 Miles!
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$13,833
Est. $250/mo Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois
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- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- 9468DGL
- VIN
- KNDJ23AUXN7174822
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of DuboisReviews
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois review
Very positive experience. John, my salesman, was very kind and went out of his way to come in on his day off for me to pick up my car. Much appreciated wonderful service!
2022 Kia Soul review
Great driver. Good gas mileage. Problem free. Second soul I have owned and just as good. My first was a 2013 and I had it for 6 years. I've had this one for over 3 years,
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$31,000
Est. $560/mo Blaise Alexander Subaru of Lewistown
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- XL0043
- VIN
- JF1GUHJC7TXL41536
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Blaise Alexander Subaru of LewistownReviews
Blaise Alexander Subaru of Lewistown review
Took several months to find the car. I found it at this dealership. The people were friendly, professional and understanding of everything. Transaction to purchase the vehicle took less than 20 minutes. I can't thank him enough for making the process easy and smooth.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 57-56
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- HM9218
- VIN
- JTDACAAUXS3054720
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Blaise Alexander HyundaiReviews
Blaise Alexander Hyundai review
Luke Cimbala, Dan and Ed went above, and beyond to get me my dream car. Not only that, but they had it delivered right to my door. Three hours away. Five stars five stars five stars
2025 Toyota Prius review
There’s a lot of negative stuff in this review. Be that as it may, I’m happy with the car. Toyota revamped the Prius design for 2025. I was one of the few who liked the previous “space capsule” look - the new one looks a lot like a Tesla 3. It’s fine; not terribly distinctive, but sleek and attractive. I get compliments. They tweaked the mileage with this design, and I know exactly how: it’s smaller. I can’t reach into the rear seat footwell by putting my arm between the seat and the wall; zero room. I can’t rest my elbow on the window sill and place my hand along the top of the window; too short. There’s no glasses holder at the top of the windshield. (And there’s no rear-window wiper. Pretty annoying, but at highway speed the slipstream keeps it clear.) The center console requires that the driver be a contortionist if they hope to use it while driving; and the compartment itself is quite small. I often misjudge how to slip into a parking slot because I sit so much closer to the edge of the car than in previous Prii. All that said, I like it. Mileage is, indeed, good. The ride is comfy, though I’ve never owned a cushy car. I’ve never much liked the steering on the Prius (this is my third), and it feels vague and disconnected, but it’s serviceable. It’s low to the ground, and the driver’s position is low relative to the windows - first car I’ve ever needed a cushion to raise me up to where I could see well enough not to regularly be running over curbs in turns. I use *two* cushions! Never before. The complete suite of safety features is great. I believe that I (and others in the road) are safer for them. Connection with my iPhone is usually seamless. As with most cars, the multitude of computer options can be daunting and frustrating, but a conference with the manual and/or a search engine usually sets things right. Pick-up is actually pretty decent! I feared that my first Prius (2006 I think) would get me run over by a truck if I ever needed to scoot out of the way - very little scooting was available. That’s much better now. And unlike so many other people, I don’t really think about gas prices. On those exceptional trips (mostly downhill, I assume) when I get to my destination and read “Average mileage: 67 MPG” or even 82 rare occasions, I chuckle to myself.
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$37,980
New 2026 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid XSE $42,459
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$26,965
Est. $487/mo Blaise Alexander Subaru of Lewistown
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- Ext. color
- Pure Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- XL0038
- VIN
- JF1GUAFCXTXL36198
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Blaise Alexander Subaru of LewistownReviews
Blaise Alexander Subaru of Lewistown review
I go to Blaise every time I have anything I need or want for my car and always have phenomenal experiences. I always ask for Cody Wilson every time I go. Jason and Cody have went above and beyond for me both times I have bought cars from there. They spent countless hours on the phone this round doing everything they could to help me out and make sure that I got what I wanted. I recommend them to everyone!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Aqua
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 3540DSL
- VIN
- JTNK4RBE6K3051218
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer SubaruReviews
2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback review
I feel comfortable in the drivers seat, and love the dashboard. But I don’t like the fact that rain is caught in the door and you can hear it “swoosh” when turning. I first thought I had a gallon of juice in the back. Plus, I can’t find a cargo cover for the hatchback.
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$13,473
Est. $243/mo Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.2L I-3 DOHC, MIVEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, e
- Stock #
- 9233DGL
- VIN
- ML32AUHJ6RH017672
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of DuboisReviews
Spitzer Chevrolet GMC Cadillac of Dubois review
First visit to Spitzer GMC in Dubois, and we were not disappointed. Despite flaws with paper work due to computer issues, everything was completed in a timely manner. No pressure to purchase or sale calls. Our trade in was more than anticipated and interest rates were awesome. Phil & Steven were more than accommodating with our questions. Thank you for such an awesome experience.
2024 Mitsubishi Mirage review
I downsized from a 2014 Subaru Forester I had for 10 years, purchasing a 2-year old Mirage SE with a whopping 4000 miles on it. It’s a beautiful tiny car, as loaded as can be, and averages 40 mpg. It works great in the city and on the highway and is a little cocoon of amenities. The visibility out the front window was a bit challenging to get used to due to the black box. And despite only being 5’4” I sit really high to the windscreen. Otherwise the interior fits me great — being aware this is not a car built for bigger people or those needing to haul more than 2 people and some groceries (although I do plan to take it camping), I love the styling and overall zippiness. It was priced very well for the model. This will be a long-term vehicle for me and I’m very pleased a month in.
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$25,490
Est. $461/mo Blaise Alexander Hyundai
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snowflake White Pearl Mica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- M5801A
- VIN
- JM1BPALM6S1784187
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Blaise Alexander HyundaiReviews
Blaise Alexander Hyundai review
I PURCHASED TWO VEHICLES AT THIS DEALERSHIP IN THE LAST YEAR AND WOULD COME BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE STAFF IS FANTASTIC, AND THE FACILITY IS INCREDIBLE! 10/10 WOULD RECOMMEND!
2025 Mazda Mazda3 review
It’s a sport car! Can get a honda or toyota with the same price but basic features. Totally worth the value. This is good for personal and family use.
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$18,890
Est. $341/mo Blaise Alexander Hyundai
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Soul Red Crystal Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V
- Stock #
- M6088A
- VIN
- JM1BPAKM3P1603278
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Blaise Alexander HyundaiReviews
Blaise Alexander Hyundai review
I came here knowing what I was looking for but not sure how I could make it work. Bob Kutz was super friendly and very patient through the entire process even while having to run back n forth to get answers to the 100 questions the entire time and I got to drive off with the exact car I wanted! Very happy with my experience.
2023 Mazda Mazda3 review
The sound system is amazing. I upgraded my old Mazda 3, 2015 to a 2023. The inside is much quieter. I love my heated seats. We've owned many Mazdas and have loved them all. The reliable little cars with great gas mileage.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mysterious Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 3511DSL
- VIN
- KNDJP3A58H7459341
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer SubaruReviews
2017 Kia Soul review
I have owned a Kia Soul Brownstone Edition for 6 years now. It hasn't given us any issues aside from a brake ABS failure in warranty. However, since Kia skimped out on immobilizers, I wouldn't get one without push button start, which is most of them, unfortunately. While they extended the warranty on the engine, they have plenty of fundamental issues with it, and also, my Kia after 4 years, has noises in front and back suspension sway bars, and the strut tower bearings make noise. While these don't need to be fixed, they make the car sound like crap. I just drove a 2019 Kona with the same amount of miles, and the suspension on that was just fine. Might be due to the larger wheels and smaller profile tires, I don't know. If Kia ever sells the EV soul in the US, I'd get that. So far, they've been good.
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