Used Honda cars for sale near Planada, CA
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- Platinum White Pearl
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- Gray
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- TP4876
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F2XRA077715
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- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Stability Control
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Madera ChevroletReviews
Madera Chevrolet review
Went in just to see Chevy trucks and ended up buying one. Excellent customer service.
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 28990
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F30RA008847
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Western Motors MercedReviews
Western Motors Merced review
Western Motors and Frank were extremely helpful and friendly in helping me find the right car for my sons first car, he always stayed in communication with me.
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- Ext. color
- Canyon River Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- U20788
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F31PA053678
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Madera ChevroletReviews
Madera Chevrolet review
Robert English was great help to me and my family I Recommend anybody to come and see him
2023 Honda Accord review
Have owned the Touring version for 4 months and 2000 miles. Averaging a solid 45mpg on mixed roads. Even with the 19" wheels and tires I found this much quieter than the previous generation. Not a head turner, but I don't need that kind of attention any more. Biggest downside is no seat height adjustment for front passenger. Biggest plusses include very stable at all speeds, feels well planted, huge back seat and trunk, very good infotainment, and the Bose system is very good for most. Very comfortable for my 6' frame. It's no race car, but it is actually fun to drive. And that comes from someone that previously owned a 2019 Acura RDX. Except for a little engine noise at low speeds, transition from electric to gas is seamless.
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- Ext. color
- Urban Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 46-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VTC variable valve contr
- Stock #
- T3605
- VIN
- 1HGCY2F50PA001255
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Madera ToyotaReviews
Madera Toyota review
Very pleasant experience, made me felt comfortable, and really important as a customer. They presented all the available options, and different vehicles. The Dealer was so professional and was ready to answer all my questions.
2023 Honda Accord Hybrid review
We've been buying V6 Accords for years now. This one is a totally different beast, unlike the previous V6, which were powerful, but "nervous", this car is so SMOOTH, elegantly gliding along, VERY MUCH LIKE AN EV. Yet when I need power — it delivers. The MPG is more than DOUBLE of what we've been used to. I tested a few hybrid sedans, and the Accord was the smoothest, you can't feel it switching from hybrid to Internal Combustion Engine (ICE), as some others do. Definitely a great buy!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 46-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VTC variable valve contr
- Stock #
- T3629A
- VIN
- 1HGCY2F54RA005585
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Madera ToyotaReviews
Madera Toyota review
This was my second time coming to this dealership. The staff was very friendly and helpful to our needs. I would definitely recommend them to my friends and family.
2024 Honda Accord Hybrid review
Very nice car. My previous was a 2020 Accord. This hybrid Accord Sport L is way better. Do not get me wrong. The 2020 is a very good car. Someone is quite happy with it, no doubts. I recommend buying a spare. I chose Modern Spare. Spendy. Great quality. Hope I never use it. The spare fits underneath the trunk where the inflator is. Just remove the foam. Comes with everything you need plus a threaded plate to secure it. All fits in and around the spare. Plus, I got jumper cables in there. We think the car is quiet. I notice others think not. Plenty of power. Mileage I have gotten is much better than what it is rated at. Love the paddles. Fake down shifters. Much less use of brakes for lights and stop signs. Planning to keep this car for quite awhile.
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- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1205
- VIN
- 7FARS4H42PE006205
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Merced HondaReviews
2023 Honda CR-V review
Sticky steering wheel when cruising at 40+ speed. The new CRV shares the same platform as the Civic. Since the Civic has a recent recall, expect CRV to have the recall in the future.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 29281
- VIN
- 19XFL2H81RE034945
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Western Motors MercedReviews
Western Motors Merced review
Frank took great care of my wife and I. I called in the morning to inquire on an 18 Maxima. The car was located in Merced at their other lot. By the time I got off work, the car was in Fresno washed and ready. Negotiations were not stressful compared to my previous 11 purchases. When we are ready to trade in our other car, we'll be looking forward to working with Frank again.
2024 Honda Civic review
Been leasing Honda cars for more than 15 years. Never had ANY issues with any of them. I love this brand. Very reliable. Highly recombined.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 46-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- 29023
- VIN
- 1HGCY2F79SA005590
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Western Motors MercedReviews
Western Motors Merced review
Western Motors is a great place to go if you are looking to purchase a used vehicle. Francisco was very friendly throughout the whole process and gave us complete clarity of our buying, financing, and options. He went as far to work with us even after our purchase for various other requests on our new purchase. All in all, Western Motors will definitely be in my consideration the next time we are looking to purchase another vehicle.
2025 Honda Accord Hybrid review
Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L Review (1,500 miles) After careful research, I purchased a Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L and have now put just over 1,500 miles on it. As a tough critic, I’d give the car an overall 9/10, with many aspects deserving 4.5/5 stars. What I Like: The Accord feels exceptionally well-refined, handsome inside and out, and surprisingly high-quality. The dashboard and infotainment system are straightforward, responsive, and user-friendly. Controls are logically placed, voice commands and hands-free calling work reliably, and call quality is excellent on both ends. I especially love the regenerative braking paddles on the steering wheel. They keep me engaged while driving (especially in the city), help recharge the battery, and reduce wear on the brake pads. The driving experience is a highlight — the car feels agile and nimble in traffic, with competent acceleration, steering, and braking. It simply feels well-engineered and enjoyable to drive. On cold Michigan mornings, the vehicle warms up quickly, the windshield defrosts fast, and the cabin reaches a comfortable temperature within about five minutes of remote start. The three-level seat heaters are effective and useful for maintaining comfort without running the heater constantly. What I Don’t Like: Headlights: While the low and high beams provide good visibility, the automatic high-beam system is finicky. It sometimes stays on too long when oncoming traffic approaches, unlike the flawless system in my previous 2018 F-150. Seat Comfort & Space: For my daily 70-mile commute, the seats are adequate. As a 6’0”, 250 lb driver, I have plenty of headroom and the car comfortably fits five adults. However, I suspect the seats may not be plush enough for longer trips, and I wish there was a bit more legroom. Fuel Economy: This is my biggest disappointment so far. I drive about 85% highway miles. In cold weather (low 40s°F). I’ve been struggling to break 38–39 mpg, with occasional warmer drives reaching 42–43 mpg. I was hoping for closer to the advertised 48 mpg combined, even in winter, and expect improvement as temperatures rise. Data Privacy: I discovered after purchase that Honda and Google are collecting significant driving and vehicle data with limited options to control or limit what is shared with them and third parties. Overall Verdict: The Accord Hybrid EX-L is a refined, comfortable, and enjoyable daily driver with excellent build quality and thoughtful features. Minor frustrations with the auto high-beams, seat comfort for long trips, and lower-than-expected MPG in cold weather keep it from a perfect score. Still, I’d highly recommend it for most buyers, especially once warmer weather returns and fuel economy improves.
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- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1209
- VIN
- 7FARS5H58RE035175
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Merced HondaReviews
2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
Good handling car in all weather. Blind spots in back causes me to pay extra attention to people coming up on my sides. Great mileage if you avoid excessive speed. Quite riding vehicle.
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- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1185
- VIN
- 2HGFE2F24RH510135
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Merced HondaReviews
Merced Honda review
I had been doing research for a mini van for quite some time. It became obvious to me that the Honda Odyssey was the way to go. At first I was going to buy a used model but then quickly realized that it was worth it to buy new since Hondas hold their value so well. When I sold my car I needed to get into something pretty quickly so I did a lot of my shopping online and on the phone. I spoke to all of the local Honda dealerships including some in the Bay Area and no one could beat Merced Honda's prices. On top of that the salesperson that I dealt with, Robert Gonzalez was unlike all of the others. He was patient, kind and at no time at all did I feel pressured by him. Overall it was a very easy and pleasant experience!
2024 Honda Civic review
I love this car. I love how it’s reliable how how move how drive very great car. I’ll recommend this to everybody 10 out of 10.
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- Ext. color
- Solar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1197
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F26RA045196
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Merced Honda -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1223
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F35RA078408
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Merced Honda -
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1224
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F35RA004793
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Merced HondaReviews
Merced Honda review
Purchasing my 2013 honda accord from merced honda was a more pleasant and easier experience than onces I've had in the past. Customer service was helpful and they showed patience with their clients. Nobody likes feeling pressured when they are trying to buy a car and it seemed like merced honda knew that from the start. Thanks merced honda!
2024 Honda Accord review
I’m a first time Honda owner and I’m extremely pleased with my purchase. I own a 2024 Accord. I chose it for its safety, functionality, and convenience features. I love it for its sleek style, design, and sophistication.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- TH22744
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F24PA016843
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Merced HondaReviews
Merced Honda review
Buying from Merced Honda verses others dealers was easy. The prices/terms of the lease is what was offered over the internet and phone with no add on cost. Robert made no promises that he did not keep. Overall Honda has a lot better service when it comes to no gimmicks or changes to the price of their vehicles. Toyota will charge you over $200 for floor mats and will not take them out of the vehicle. At Honda floor mats included in the price (the way it should be) and each LX comes with the same equipment. Overall happy with our experience with Robert and Merced Honda.
2023 Honda Accord review
Good car good buying process just wobbles a little at around 70-80 mph while on highway. Might just be a small alignment with only my car may not be a consistent problem.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- FP9484
- VIN
- 2HGFE1F73RH314984
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Razzari FordReviews
Razzari Ford review
I have dealt with so many unprofessional people till these guys I can’t thank Jose Aguilar enough and isiah incredible people I’m so happy I want to cry this place changed my life I will never take my car anywhere else to be serviced and definitely would never buy a car anywhere else this place is incredible down to the people who answe the phones excellent service
2024 Honda Civic review
Heather was an amazing sales woman, I truly appreciate her hard work for making today happen! I purchased my first car by myself. I can’t wait to love my new Honda Civic
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- FP9538
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F39RA034248
Dealer
Razzari FordReviews
Razzari Ford review
Every other Ford dealership in my area was a hassle. Fortunately Jose, from Razzari, was able to get a hold of me and they was swift and helpful. Helped negotiate deals for me. NO GIMMICS!
2024 Honda Accord review
Got this car as part of a trade with my 2013 Chevy Malibu. It's not a bad car did have a few issues with the spark plugs that came out of nowhere. And they had to be replaced along with a few other issues but outside of that it's been a pretty reliable car that has gotten me from point a to point b. Everything works well the Bluetooth has worked wonders along with the seats being comfortable and it drives smooth.
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- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1214
- VIN
- 2HGFE2F50SH526039
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Merced HondaReviews
2025 Honda Civic review
I traded in a 2017 Honda CR-V Touring because it was going to to cost more to fix the major issues (as a second owner I did not know the CR-V had that many things wrong). I put money down on the Civic Sport that I was going to use for the repairs. I do have to say it's a nice car and I hope it will last longer than I expect. That being said I didn't want to buy another Honda but I did go to a dealership that I trust more than anybody else. I will come back and further my review once I have 5,000 miles on it.
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- Ext. color
- Meteorite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1194
- VIN
- 2HKRS3H27PH307851
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Merced HondaReviews
2023 Honda CR-V review
I traded in my 2021 Honda CRV, this 2023 CRV rides smoother and looks more pleasing to me. Good on Gas too! I live in the Poconos, some roads are not smooth this car drives over these roads and gives me a more comfortable ride.
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- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1208
- VIN
- 7FARS5H55SE007873
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Merced HondaReviews
2025 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
I’ve had many Subarus in the past, but wanted a hybrid vehicle. So glad I did with these gas prices! I’m getting 41mpg right now. My favorite things are the trunk kick open feature, my hands are always full. I love the heated steering wheel too. I have the flat matte gray color, I receive lots of compliments and color hides dirt well. Handles well on road, drives nicely. Only thing I would change is size of cup holders, they are small.
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- Ext. color
- Sonic Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- TH22605
- VIN
- 19XFL2H84NE019320
Dealer
Merced HondaReviews
Merced Honda review
I bought a 2013 Honda Civic for my daughters. Robert Gonzalez did such a great job finding them the car they wanted. I didn?t have to wait for anything. We were helped as soon as we stepped foot out of our car and we loved that. This will not be the last car we buy from Robert. I hear about bad car experiences all the time and I am lucky to say that we did not have a bad experience with Merced Honda.
2022 Honda Civic review
I absolutely love mine in comfort I think that it could have been a little bit better but that's on long trips. Short trips the comfort is fine. My car was totaled and my airbags blew on my steering wheel and at my legs and I'm so glad that they did because I really would have gotten hurt without those airbags The seat belt also did its job very well and the brakes warning light came on first then the brakes came on the exact same time I was putting the brakes on a guy ran a stop sign and there really wasn't much I could do but hit him which it did total my car and I am now looking for another one of the exact same kind I want my car back I love my Honda Civic sport touring.
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- Ext. color
- Rallye Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1221
- VIN
- 2HGFE2F53RH555996
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Merced HondaReviews
Merced Honda review
THANK YOU Merced Honda! I had recently purchased an economy car from another dealership and was experiencing terrible buyer's remorse because of safety issues. I had previously owned an Odyssey and LOVED it! When I decided I did not want the new vehicle I was in, Roberto, along with the sales management team at Merced Honda went above and beyond to help me! I now drive a 2013 Civic and I'm in "love"all over again!
2024 Honda Civic review
Got this car for a good deal. The look is better than I anticipated, especially the silver color. People mistake the car for the Accord, that's how good it looks. The interior is also luxurious, people were surprised and thought I had a BMW or Mercedes. The ride is very smooth. Fuel efficient. The only con is the road noise, which can be ignored with the amazing Bose system. Overall, the touring model is better than the Corolla, equivalent to a Camry or Accord EXL.
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- Ext. color
- Urban Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- P1227
- VIN
- 7FARS5H51SE004906
Dealer
Merced HondaReviews
2025 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
I absolutely love this car. I traded my 2023 Subaru Outback Touring XT for this 2025 Honda CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring. I absolutely love the way it drives. I have had hybrids before from Toyota and they drive like you know they are a hybrid with noisy obnoxious engines. This car is smooth and has great road manners. It isn't a sports car by any means, but I love the way it drives. It is not your typical fuel sipping hybrid SUV. I would highly recommend this vehicle.
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- Ext. color
- Boost Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black/Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VTEC variable valve cont
- Stock #
- MSP4130
- VIN
- JHMFL5G41PX002878
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Scottsdale MitsubishiReviews
Scottsdale Mitsubishi review
Great place and people Good help and car was clean and ready fast wife was happy and so was I.
2023 Honda Civic Type R review
A blast to drive! Brakes are very responsive, quick at lane changes. The car feels on rails at high speed on tight curves. Very happy with the performance of the car. Very decent gas mileage on long trips. I recently did a 680 mile trip and my average was 29.8 mph
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- Ext. color
- Laguna Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 6-Speed
- Engine
- 2.2L I-4 DOHC, VTEC variable valve control, premium unleaded, en
- Stock #
- 6S000910STK
- VIN
- JHMAP21436S000910
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Spencer's Auto SalesReviews
Spencer's Auto Sales review
Great dealership! Large amount of inventory and super friendly specialists. Got me into a great car that I love!
2006 Honda S2000 review
If you can put up with it's ridiculously small interior, this car is great--it runs well (I have over 300K miles on it now), even though repairs are a little costly when they are finally needed, and it gets on down the road REALLY well!