Used Kia vehicles for sale in Big Bend, WI
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silky Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Lambda 3.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable
- Stock #
- 46P640A
- VIN
- KNDMB5C1XK6559097
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Kunes Hope ChevroletReviews
Kunes Hope Chevrolet review
Everyone was so kind and friendly,sales people went way beyond to help me get a vehicle...I love them all.My sales rep was the best and so very friendly and went out of his way to help me,Gerald he was so very kind and I enjoy his company while I waited for my final word...💚💚💚💚
2019 Kia Sedona review
The only negative is went to open passenger front door and the whole door handle came off. Will cost between $150.00 and &300.00 to get a new handle (plastic)put on. This is our second Sedona)
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Chroma Blue
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KPPS7236
- VIN
- KNDNB5K3XS6524132
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Waukesha KiaReviews
Russ Darrow Waukesha Kia review
The salesman Dennis was awesome. The sales manner juror was unprofessional to say the least..
2025 Kia Carnival review
I traded a 2021 Telluride for the Carnival because it was more practical and versatile for transporting young children. Although they had the same trim levels, the quality of interior materials - seats, door panels, etc. - in the Telluride were superior to the Carnival. The "ride," handling and comfort of the Telluride also far exceeded that of the Carnival. I miss the Telluride but appreciate the functionally of the Carnival.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Venetian Red
- Int. color
- Camel
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Lambda 3.3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 276HP
- Stock #
- 26GR897A
- VIN
- KNDMB5C14H6316300
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Boucher Buick GMC of WaukeshaReviews
Boucher Buick GMC of Waukesha review
Hannah L and Ben N were instrumental in our decision to buy a Buick Envision Avenir. Hannah REALLY knows this car and explained it all to us. She’s one in a million ❤️
2017 Kia Sedona review
We got a used Sedona and have loved it! We don’t regret it one bit after these few years we’ve had it so far. Even with the few dings from the previous accident, with the work done correctly this feels like a brand new van!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Saddle Brown
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- K26421A
- VIN
- KNDNC5H36R6448861
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Kia of WauwatosaReviews
Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa review
This dealership is Awesome and easy to work with Will be back! Make sure you get your floor mats.
2024 Kia Carnival review
I've had this car since I leased it when it was brand new. Just converted the lease to buying it. The car is roomy and has all the options you could ask for. The car is comfortable and does verywell on gas mileage on the highway.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Aurora Black
- Int. color
- Camel
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Lambda 3.3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve co
- Stock #
- K49603A
- VIN
- KNDMB5C18M6671495
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Raymond KiaReviews
Raymond Kia review
Love the new location and drive up service. Staff is aways friendly and professional, highly recommend Raymond if you need a new car.
2021 Kia Sedona review
I have a 2021 Kia Sedona EX I bought new just went over 28000 miles first oil change did mobil 1 synthetic and drove to Florida and NC coastal multiple times decent gas mileage plenty of room I don't have a problem with the rear seats but my sister has an Odyssey and the rear seats are a little easier but if you want to spend 20 grand extra for some better folding rear seats you got it better than me 5 out of 5 stars for this guy thanks 👍
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70169931
- VIN
- KNDNE5K30T6587006
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax OmahaReviews
CarMax Omaha review
Happy with the low pressure sales crew of Carmax... their easy reservation process and no haggle prices.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BROWN
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70212253
- VIN
- KNDNE5H30P6279136
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax SpringfieldReviews
2023 Kia Carnival review
We have had our Carnival for a few weeks now and we are loving it! The only complaint i have is we have the seat package and the middle seats are a little hard for the kids to slide up and back into position. The new stile of the dash and controls is very user friendly.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- P3581
- VIN
- KNDNB4H37R6323655
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Janesville KiaReviews
Janesville Kia review
Wonderful experience! Bought my car from Cody and he was absolutely amazing! We loved his attitude to help us get a good deal, he was truthful and straightforward! If I could give this place and my experience more than 5 stars, I would! Thanks again Cody! You really made this process easy and quick!
2024 Kia Carnival review
Came in on a used Carnival and ended up buying a new one. Our sales person was Dave Sabitini and he was very knowledgeable. He treated us like family. Would highly recommend Vandevere Kia
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- M260210A
- VIN
- KNDNB4H36P6259623
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Castle Chevrolet GMCReviews
Castle Chevrolet GMC review
Great staff and very good deals on new vehicles. Quick, friendly and very helpful. I would recommend if your looking for a great deal check with these guys first. They will get you that Great deal others can't.
2023 Kia Carnival review
We have had our Carnival for about 6 months. I love it!! It is my favorite car ever and I was a Ford Explorer fan before. It is so comfortable and rides like a dream. We can comfortably carry 8 adults with no problems. It has plenty of power and still gets 25-27 MPG around town. The seating configuration is amazing the way they lay down or come out. Being able to see the back while driving is a definite plus, carrying grand babies. And it even becomes its own WiFi spot! The warranty is unbeatable and the service is so good. Highly recommend!!!
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$32,495
Est. $582/mo Griffin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Jefferson
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Taupe/Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- P4501A
- VIN
- KNDNB5K36S6461353
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Griffin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of JeffersonReviews
Griffin Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Jefferson review
Great service, speedy oil change. Very friendly staff. Sat and talked with CJ for over an hour, even though my truck was done, totally lost track of time.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Taupe/Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- GP1481
- VIN
- KNDNB5K37S6508969
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Badger ChevroletReviews
Badger Chevrolet review
Bruce did a great job. The whole sale process was smooth and Bruce answered all my questions. Gave me a great deal that couldn't say no to sale!!
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$46,588
New 2026 Kia Carnival SX
$52,952
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$49,699
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$45,022
New 2027 Kia Carnival Hybrid EX
$51,240
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$51,277
New 2026 Kia Carnival SX Prestige
$51,384
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$50,263
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$50,241
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ceramic Silver
- Int. color
- Navy/Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 34-31
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- MK260068
- VIN
- KNDNC5KA4T6102516
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Castle Subaru McHenryReviews
Castle Subaru McHenry review
This was my 11th Subaru purchase, and without question, it was the most memorable buying experience I’ve ever had. From the very beginning, Olivia set the tone. On my first visit, it was absolutely pouring rain, but she never let the weather slow her down. She gladly brought out multiple Outbacks for me to compare, answered every question with patience, and made sure I had everything I needed to make the right decision. At no point did I feel rushed or pressured. Her professionalism, positivity, and genuine care were evident from day one. Nicole made the business side of the process equally impressive. She was transparent, fair, and solutions-oriented throughout the negotiation. Rather than making it feel like a transaction, she made it feel like a partnership. She listened, communicated clearly, and demonstrated the kind of leadership that creates long-term customer loyalty. Nate wrapped everything up with the same level of excellence. He took the time to thoroughly explain every detail, answered all of my questions, and made what is often the least enjoyable part of buying a vehicle surprisingly comfortable. His emotional intelligence and authenticity stood out, and I truly appreciated the way he treated me throughout the process. I’ve purchased eleven Subarus over the years, but this experience was different. The vehicle is outstanding, but what I’ll remember most is the people. Olivia, Nicole, and Nate each played a role in creating an experience built on trust, professionalism, and genuine customer care. Thank you all for reminding me that exceptional customer service still exists. You’ve earned not only this sale but my continued loyalty and enthusiastic recommendation to anyone looking for their next Subaru.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum Graphite
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6 Cylinder FWD Gasoline
- Stock #
- WYC-027607
- VIN
- KNDMC5C16F6027607
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Your Choice Autos WaukeganReviews
Your Choice Autos Waukegan review
Great selection and friendly staff! There were so many cars to choose from, and we were able to take our time finding the right one. Everyone was welcoming and helpful throughout the process. Sam was absolutely brilliant and made everything easy from start to finish.
2015 Kia Sedona review
I had this event for the longest time with no problems that this year is the first time I've had a problem minor. Transmission engine look good. 2026 first year we're sliding glass sliding door problem. No the problem since then
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 53P392
- VIN
- KNDNB5K37T6574388
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Kunes Lakes ChevroletReviews
Kunes Lakes Chevrolet review
Alan handled himself and represented the dealership very well. Everybody was friendly and helpful. Mine was an out-of-state sale and trade in that ran smoothly. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Aurora Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 34-31
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- P6115A
- VIN
- KNDNB5KA4T6117651
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Schmit Bros. Ford -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Aurora Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Taupe/Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- MKP2509
- VIN
- KNDNC5K30S6472720
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Castle Kia McHenryReviews
Castle Kia McHenry review
Matt was very friendly and provided me with all necessary car information. Well done today
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ceramic White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 50157A
- VIN
- KNDNE5H39N6146453
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ray ChevroletReviews
Ray Chevrolet review
Always kind, helpful and courteous. Stick to their appointments and let you know of any concerns your vehicle may have. Thank you for being so attentive.
2022 Kia Carnival review
AMAZING MPV!! Bought 2022 SX Prestige with captain chairs in May 2021. Had 175,000 miles and drove like new. Only did Oil changes/tire rotations and filters (easy to change by yourself) and new tires 2x and a new battery at 150k was all I had to Maintenance. Was very spacious for up to 4 adults but too small for 7 adults. My last one was a total loss but would love another one. Was awesome in snow with all weather tires.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Chroma Blue
- Int. color
- Taupe/Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- N26391A
- VIN
- KNDNC5K30S6451351
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Journey NissanReviews
Journey Nissan review
Very friendly staff that helped me find the right car and sent me up with financing that worked for me. I appreciate the time they took to explain the process and made everything really easy! Definitely my place to go when i need another new car in the future.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Venetian Red
- Int. color
- Camel
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6 Cylinder FWD Gasoline
- Stock #
- WYC-284672
- VIN
- KNDMB5C10H6284672
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Your Choice Autos WaukeganReviews
Your Choice Autos Waukegan review
Buying my car was a fast and seamless experience. Really good experience. Sam is Really nice guy Highly recommended.
2017 Kia Sedona review
Incredible van, I own a 2013 Grand Caravan and he's a complete different car.Kia got all you want for this type of vehicule.Confort, maniability for a minivan, versatility, reliability, for the value is unbeatable no question. 270k
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