Used sedans for sale in Saint Joseph, WI
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Canyon River Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 51-44
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- eCVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VTC variable valve control, regul
- Stock #
- SA045182
- VIN
- 1HGCY2F68SA045182
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Morrie's West Salem KiaReviews
Morrie's West Salem Kia review
great service, very professional, good check points for condition of vehicle
2025 Honda Accord Hybrid review
Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L Review (1,500 miles) After careful research, I purchased a Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L and have now put just over 1,500 miles on it. As a tough critic, I’d give the car an overall 9/10, with many aspects deserving 4.5/5 stars. What I Like: The Accord feels exceptionally well-refined, handsome inside and out, and surprisingly high-quality. The dashboard and infotainment system are straightforward, responsive, and user-friendly. Controls are logically placed, voice commands and hands-free calling work reliably, and call quality is excellent on both ends. I especially love the regenerative braking paddles on the steering wheel. They keep me engaged while driving (especially in the city), help recharge the battery, and reduce wear on the brake pads. The driving experience is a highlight — the car feels agile and nimble in traffic, with competent acceleration, steering, and braking. It simply feels well-engineered and enjoyable to drive. On cold Michigan mornings, the vehicle warms up quickly, the windshield defrosts fast, and the cabin reaches a comfortable temperature within about five minutes of remote start. The three-level seat heaters are effective and useful for maintaining comfort without running the heater constantly. What I Don’t Like: Headlights: While the low and high beams provide good visibility, the automatic high-beam system is finicky. It sometimes stays on too long when oncoming traffic approaches, unlike the flawless system in my previous 2018 F-150. Seat Comfort & Space: For my daily 70-mile commute, the seats are adequate. As a 6’0”, 250 lb driver, I have plenty of headroom and the car comfortably fits five adults. However, I suspect the seats may not be plush enough for longer trips, and I wish there was a bit more legroom. Fuel Economy: This is my biggest disappointment so far. I drive about 85% highway miles. In cold weather (low 40s°F). I’ve been struggling to break 38–39 mpg, with occasional warmer drives reaching 42–43 mpg. I was hoping for closer to the advertised 48 mpg combined, even in winter, and expect improvement as temperatures rise. Data Privacy: I discovered after purchase that Honda and Google are collecting significant driving and vehicle data with limited options to control or limit what is shared with them and third parties. Overall Verdict: The Accord Hybrid EX-L is a refined, comfortable, and enjoyable daily driver with excellent build quality and thoughtful features. Minor frustrations with the auto high-beams, seat comfort for long trips, and lower-than-expected MPG in cold weather keep it from a perfect score. Still, I’d highly recommend it for most buyers, especially once warmer weather returns and fuel economy improves.
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$23,546
Est. $424/mo Morrie's Sparta Chevrolet
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 51-44
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.8L I4 16V MPFI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- PJ002798
- VIN
- JTDBDMHE1PJ002798
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morrie's Sparta ChevroletReviews
Morrie's Sparta Chevrolet review
I BOUGHT A USED BUICK LACROSSE LAST WEEK AT BRENEGAN AUTO, SPARTA, WI. I WAS HAPPY TO FIND MORE THAN 1 VEHICLE IN MY BUDGET. BRIAN SCHAUF POINTED OUT ALL THE FEATURES ON THE ONES I CONSIDERED. AFTER I PURCHASED HE LED ME THROUGH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. THANKS BRIAN
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 55-54
- Fuel type
- Plug-in Gas/Elec
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Direct-Drive Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L Plug-in Hybrid Turbo I4 403hp 981ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- 22164
- VIN
- YH4K14AA8CA000465
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Chicago Motor CarsReviews
Chicago Motor Cars review
A remarkable buying experience! Jackson was responsive, informative, personal and NOT pushy. I am enjoying my new ride and have already recommended Chicago Motor Cars to my friends. Thank you for the quick turn around for a memorable Christmas surprise for my wife and family!
2012 Fisker Karma review
The best looking 4 door ever built??!? Definitely. The fastest, most practical car for a daily driver?? Definitely NOT. I have owned all 3 Tesla's, Audi RS7, Bentley GT Speed, MB AMG GTS, ETC, ETC. Noticed how I say owned. As in not anymore. My Fisker has seen them all come & go. There is just something about the feeling driving it, experiencing it, it gives me the feeling I'm in something special. Looking at it in the garage or when I park it after a nice drive, then taking that look back just confirms I am right. Many people judge these cars for what they read, not personal experience. I can tell you, if you can get one with less than 30k miles, with the vin # between 1200-1750, with the updates done, you should be in good shape. Lots of help on the forums and Karma parts availability make this still a no brainer for me. Plus hagerty insures it for a very fair amount. Hasn't lost its value since I bought it 5 years ago. The paint "Earth" is nothing short of perfect. Even though its a 9 year old design, it still has people confused on what it is. My favorite is watching peoples forehead skin fold, eyes squint, and then the word "FISKER?!?" comes out of their mouth, totally confused. Thank you Henrik Fisker!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Obsidian
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Sequential Shift
- Engine
- 4.6L V8 DOHC 32V VVT-iE
- Stock #
- J70151B
- VIN
- JTHBL5EF4D5114469
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
The Honda Superstore of JolietReviews
The Honda Superstore of Joliet review
I just bought an accord from the Honda Superstore. Overall a smooth buying process. The car is great as stated. Highly recommended for buying a new or a used car.
2013 Lexus LS 460 review
The highest Luxury and comfort combined with the highest reliability and peace of mind, it keeps giving year after year! This car has checked all the boxes for me and keeps me satisfied in every respect, i dont feel the need for anything else or anything different! Prior to this i have driven all the flagships mercedes S , BMW 7 , and various others, nothing has provided the overall satisfaction or long term trouble free experience! Owned it for 6 years and i have put on 86k miles, i have total of 146k miles on it still drives like brand new!
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$18,745
Est. $337/mo Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iridium Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black MB-Tex
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 323299
- VIN
- 55SWF8EB3LU323299
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc. review
All went great, I had an oil change schduled and also had a tire problem. Everything was done as fast as possible and we where back on the road again. I will be back next time I need my car serviced. Thanks Dan Nelson
2020 Mercedes-Benz C-Class review
Absolutely love it, loaded with features including self parking. Sports car with different drive modes and yet luxury comfortable. So far not a single issue, very reliable. Highly recommend.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Currant Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular unleaded, en
- Stock #
- 803433
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD0RE803433
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc. review
Clean store & friendly staff! A wonderful place to buy a vehicle! Brent Anderson helped us buy a fantastic vehicle! We will definitely go back to him and highly recommend him!!
2024 Kia Forte review
I do like my car, but the seats are not comfortable. I HATE the head rests. I don't understand why they have to be so pushed forward, causing pain in the neck and the back to slouch. I had to buy a cushion to keep my back and neck straight. I also don't like the curved seats. They make it difficult to easily and quickly get out of the car. The problem is worse now that I'm pregnant. The car itself is great, but we spend so much time in the seats, why can't they be made comfortable?
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mineral Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L Turbo I4 163hp 184ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- 5095
- VIN
- 1G1ZD5ST5RF154836
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
KUDICK CHEVROLET, INC.Reviews
KUDICK CHEVROLET, INC. review
Kudick Chevrolet is a top notch car dealership. All employees are friendly, knowledgeable, and helpful. It is a pleasure to deal with everyone. The dealership is clean and in a good location.
2024 Chevrolet Malibu review
Very exited with the car. Test drive was perfect. Representatives were very helpful and worked with me on nearly everything. Great customer service. Thank you guys.
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$20,378
Est. $367/mo Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve control, r
- Stock #
- 26A-1038
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DV6SN312493
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Personnel at dealership were engaging and very helpful. Despite restrictions and constraints involved in shopping for anything during this Covid-19 pandemic, the staff went out of their way to provide a pleasant buying experience while ensuring our safety as far as possible. We would highly recommend this dealership to anyone!
2025 Nissan Altima review
I've owned 7 total with 0 issues. The cvt is quick and responsive. The exhaust has a nice tone to it. Seats are comfortable I've owned German luxury cars and I prefer the Altima seats. I love my car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine wi
- Stock #
- 013308
- VIN
- 19XFC2F86LE013308
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc. review
Brent was wonderful, patient and very helpful. Overall, the experience with this dealership was fantastic
2020 Honda Civic review
I really like my Honda Civic. It has been very reliable and in the 5 years I have had it there haven't been any major repairs or problems. Since I am short I have gotten a cushion to sit on since the model I got sits lower to the ground. The keyless entry and ignition has worked out very well for me.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Dark Titanium/Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 102584A
- VIN
- 1G11X5SA2KU102584
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc. review
Good job and well done. I will come back for services again
2019 Chevrolet Impala review
The car meet all my needs always wanted a car with a sunroof and leather seats so it meets all my desires. I enjoyed the test drive and the ride home was really comfortable, nice traction on road nice sounds very enjoyable ride.
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$14,149
Est. $254/mo Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I-4 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular gasoline, e
- Stock #
- 26A-112B
- VIN
- 5YFEPRAE0LP120245
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Arcadia Motors Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I have been buying vehicles from this dealership since 2006 and every time has been a great experience. The staff is always friendly and helpful. I have recommended them to all my family and friends .
2020 Toyota Corolla review
I really love and enjoy all of the features on my Corolla XSE 2020 Toyota 4-door Sedan now s9 alots now too so's too now.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tungsten Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.4L I-4 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, intercooled tu
- Stock #
- 248920
- VIN
- 1G1PE5SB2F7248920
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc. review
Very easy to work with and very friendly staff even ones who weren’t helping me out. Caleb my sales person was excellent to work with would highly recommend this dealer and when ready would buy another vehicle from them
2015 Chevrolet Cruze review
We had a fantastic experience buying our car from National Motors In Ellicott City! The team went above and beyond to work with our budget and helped us find the absolute perfect vehicle without any pressure. They took the time to listen to what we actually needed and made the entire process smooth and transparent. Highly recommend!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Sand Pearl
- Int. color
- Ash
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I-4 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular gasoline, e
- Stock #
- 900902
- VIN
- 2T1BURHE9HC900902
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Lewiston Auto Co., Inc.Reviews
2017 Toyota Corolla review
The 2017 Toyota Corolla is a great First Car it has Great steering and great AC and great Engine and a Great Steering Wheel and I can’t wait to Come to the Toyota Dealership
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iridescent Pearl Tricoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 21533A
- VIN
- 1G1ZE5ST7GF318680
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sugar Loaf Ford LincolnReviews
Sugar Loaf Ford Lincoln review
Always have had great service, before and after the sale. Our family have been doing business there since 2010.
2016 Chevrolet Malibu review
I currently own a 2016 Malibu 2LT 2.0T and I absolutely love it! The 2.0T has more than enough power to get up and go when needed, and hasn't given me any problems so far! I've driven the car on a few longer drives as well and it has been just fine, plus getting better gas mileage than the EPA estimate. Mine has the standard premium cloth seats, but they are just fine in my opinion! I seriously love my car and hope to have it for a while!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 44-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- 10154A
- VIN
- 1HGCV3F9XMA023177
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Jones ChevroletReviews
Jones Chevrolet review
Tyi from jones Chevrolet was great to work with and would definitely recommend here . It was a great experience
2021 Honda Accord Hybrid review
Just purchased a used 2021 Accord Hybrid EX-L. In my first tank of gas, I'm averaging more than 50 MPG. Really nice car...glad we bought it. We test drove the Camry and the Sonata as well but preferred the interior of the Accord. Quiet, comfortable ride. Lots of nice features. We have 2008 Accord with 175K miles and counting. Look forward to another ten plus years with the Hybrid.
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$7,340
Est. $132/mo Sugar Loaf Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 14022M
- VIN
- 2G1WC5E37E1168031
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sugar Loaf Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Sugar Loaf Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Just bought a vehicle from Derek- best experience I’ve ever had! He was so friendly, the process was quick and easy and the vehicle was made perfect for me. Would buy here again!
2014 Chevrolet Impala Limited review
Joe from Sicklerville now lives in Florida for 2 years my 14 Impala has 265,000 Mi on it and still runs excellent did minor repairs but still original motor transmission if you do the right maintenance on this car I expect to get at least 500,000 miles out of this car but I really do take good care of it I don't neglect anything
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