Used compact trucks for sale in Pierce, CO
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P1450
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN6LM297836
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
2 MazdaReviews
2020 Toyota Tacoma review
I love my Tacoma. I've always been a GMC person, but wasn't happy with their smaller pickup options. I made the jump to a Tacoma and I've already driven it across the country. I was very comfortable, extremely happy with performance.
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$33,147
Est. $593/mo Ken Garff Ford Ft. Collins
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- OEMCKM200984T
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN0KM200984
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Garff Ford Ft. CollinsReviews
Ken Garff Ford Ft. Collins review
Daniel is the best advisor! I loved working with him and will continue to go back!
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
This vehicle met all my work and play needs. It has been comfortable, reliable, and capable. It has plenty of room for family and friends.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P1450
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN6LM297836
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
2 MazdaReviews
2020 Toyota Tacoma review
I love my Tacoma. I've always been a GMC person, but wasn't happy with their smaller pickup options. I made the jump to a Tacoma and I've already driven it across the country. I was very comfortable, extremely happy with performance.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Cap
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- CT0662A
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN5PM620618
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
2 MazdaReviews
2 Mazda review
I've bought many cars at different dealerships throught the years but this place this is the best! Jacobi the salesman, was amazing! Never pressured me into anything and him and my husband had a great time just talking cars. Henry test drove my trade in and actually used the turbo it was alot of fun! Chandler handled the finance with finesse and gave me the best deal and APR of just 2.5% (or close idr I know it was next to nothing lol) they also gave me a great deal on my trade. P.s hope his wife is still doing well their expecting a baby boy soon! And literally anyone's name that starts with a J there is awesome. I wrote down their names but lost the paper lol They even got my car ready and all accessories put on the day (shout out to the awesome guys that made it happen, usually i have to wait months anywhere else and the other place couldnt even get me a rental car for work!)they arrived so I could leave to drive to Texas (got a call my grandpa had died and need to drive there immediately). These guys make you feel like family, don't take advantage, and really take great care of you. If you where wondering I love my new 2022 CX30 and she handled great on that 13 1/2 hour drive to Texas and back. My husband and I are now customers for life.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
A great factory set up to start modifications. Upgrade OTT tune to rid gear hunting, seat jackers for better ride comfort. Add a leaf or suspension helper in rear to plant rear tires, upgrade front and rear shocks. Front factory springs pair perfectly with bilstein 5100s for better offroad handling.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- N13012
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN6KM247856
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Drive N-Motion GreeleyReviews
Drive N-Motion Greeley review
I had the best experience to date on a vehicle purchase. They came through on the financing end also and made it easy. Zach was great and helped me from beginning to end.
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
I fit real well in this truck . I like the gas mileage and it is awesome. The color fits me and l like 4 wheel drive. The truck works good in the snow and handles extremely well.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Boulder
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- P3654
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN8RM054672
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Crossroads Hyundai of LovelandReviews
Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland review
I HATE going to a car dealership... BUT Callee my salespro, was MORE than a salesperson, she seemed to really care, even when I had a issue after the fact... And very knowledgeable too . I walked out of the last dealership I was looking at due to making me feel like a fool for asking questions... The Sales manager Dave, Didn't pressure me at all.. and the finance guy knows EV's very well. THANKS YAW"LL
2024 Toyota Tacoma review
For a non full size pickup it seems pricey, but then again full size truck prices are ridiculous. The interior is really nice, spacious and well built. The truck handles incredibly well, and the 4 cylinder turbo has plenty of power. I was impressed with it's 6,000+ towing power. The exterior is mean looking and looks great heading down the road. I bought a SR model because I need a truck, not something full of options. The only downside is the box is smaller and holds a lot less than a full size and the Toyota sense safety is a bit much. I know it's there for a reason but it can be confusing.
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$30,955
Est. $554/mo Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Rockwood Green
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- SL26563
- VIN
- 5NTJBDDE1TH168959
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Crossroads Hyundai of LovelandReviews
Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland review
Second purchase from Crossroads Hyundai and will continue to recommend them to everyone I know. The sales team is very friendly, not pushy and extremely knowledgeable and the service techs are great at what they do.
2026 Hyundai SANTA CRUZ review
Only have had it one month, just a couple negatives 1) Key fob very low quality, looks like a cheap plastic Easter egg. I have never had one this low quality. 2) The part that positions the seat belt buckle high or low is a “rubber band”, Never seen that. 3) The steering wheel should be a little wider on the top so you can view the screen/gages better. The ride is nice, Power is there when you want it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cactus
- Int. color
- Navy Pier
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- OEMCRRA52940P
- VIN
- 3FTTW8J93RRA52940
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Garff Ford Ft. CollinsReviews
Ken Garff Ford Ft. Collins review
Phenomenal service. The staff and service crew were very helpful and very knowledgeable about how my Bronco was to be handled
2024 Ford Maverick review
Only has had one glitch, the passenger window switch died after about a month, but that's what the warranty is for, and they fixed it. The hybrid is rated at 38 mpg I think, but I'm getting closer to 48, I log my mileage, so that's a reliable number. Front wheel drive so you don't have the light rear end traction issues. Feels and drives more like a car, but when you want to load stuff the bed is there. Unless you want a big heavy duty truck, which it isn't, there's nothing not to love about it.
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$29,686
Est. $531/mo Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Atlas White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- SL26562
- VIN
- 5NTJADDE0TH170513
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Crossroads Hyundai of LovelandReviews
Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland review
The car we purchased was just as described in the advertisement. Will, our salesperson, was friendly and helpful. We were able to negotiate the price we needed on our trade and received a fair price for it with minimal negotiation. All of the staff we dealt with in person and on the phone were helpful and friendly. The responses to our phone queries were answered quickly and efficiently. I was able to arrange a time to test-drive our vehicle were done quickly and on our own schedule. This dealer was able to per-certify our vehicle which allows us to access the remainder of our full new vehicle warranty and transfer the service agreement from the previous owner. The car was delivered clean and fully charged which was great as we were from out of town and had a 100 mile return trip to home. The whole purchase was handled start to finish in just a few hours, which was one of the quickest sales closings I hav experienced in many cars purchased over the years. Nice work in a pleasant atmosphere.
2026 Hyundai SANTA CRUZ review
I purchased my 2026 Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL Activity with only 18 miles on the odometer and have driven it over 8,900 miles since May 9, 2026. After daily driving it in city conditions and taking it on longer highway trips, I can confidently say this vehicle delivers an excellent blend of SUV comfort and truck utility. The Santa Cruz was exactly what I was looking for. I needed something that offered more capability and cargo flexibility than my Tucson while still maintaining passenger comfort and everyday drivability. The SEL Activity trim comes with great features, including heated seats, lane assist, a sunroof, and comfortable second-row seating. The bed is spacious, and the factory Tonneau cover does an excellent job keeping anything I carry back there clean and dry. I also appreciated purchasing from a dealership that provided a dealer-backed warranty, giving me additional confidence in my ownership experience. The Santa Cruz provides a great balance of practicality, features, and peace of mind without needing to rely on a third-party warranty company. Driving performance has been excellent. The truck has plenty of power, and highway driving is where it really shines. It is extremely stable, comfortable, and quiet, with almost no noticeable cabin noise. Fuel economy has been impressive, averaging around 24–26 MPG during continuous daily city driving and reaching 36–38 MPG during longer highway trips. Handling is excellent, especially with the 18-inch tires, and the transmission provides plenty of torque for the terrain and conditions I regularly encounter. There have been a few minor issues. After an infotainment software update, the USB-C connection used for Android Auto/Apple CarPlay stopped working properly. Disconnecting the battery for about 10 minutes temporarily fixes the issue until the vehicle is turned off again. The driver assistance system also has some quirks. Even on well-marked roads, the lane assistance can sometimes behave unpredictably, and I have noticed it occasionally tries to move right instead of staying centered when going through intersections. The biggest annoyance has been a rattle from the passenger-side headliner that has been present since I purchased the vehicle. It is especially noticeable on rough roads. The climate control system works very well with dual front controls and rear airflow, although occasionally the fan will completely stop for a few seconds before restarting. Overall, the 2026 Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL Activity has been an excellent vehicle. If you are looking for a truck-style vehicle with good towing capability, passenger space, storage, fuel economy, and modern features, I would absolutely recommend the Santa Cruz. It is unfortunate that 2026 is expected to be the final model year for the Santa Cruz because it fills a unique space in the market.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- C0132
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN9SM132060
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
2 MazdaReviews
2025 Toyota Tacoma review
Just got a new 2025 Tacoma SR5 in the blue slush color. I love my new Taco and Temecula Toyota gave me a smoking deal on lt. I looked around at some other trucks. The Jeep Gladiator was kind of nice but they are having major problems with them. The Nissan frontier is a nice looking truck, but you don’t see many on the road. There must be a reason for that. lol. Ford was not willing to deal on the F150 price. I’ve had a few Toyotas and Lexus and they run for ever with no problems.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- SGM004088
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN1GM004088
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Porsche Fort CollinsReviews
Porsche Fort Collins review
We are in the comparison and decision mode, the experience with Adolf and Eddie has been good so far. Looking forward to the next steps ...
2016 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought this truck new after major styling change in Tacomas and traded in a 2008 Tacoma SR 5 and getting back 88% of what I paid for new in 2008. I've had no problems with this 2016 so far and never did with 2008 except fir window washer issue.
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$34,892
New 2026 Ford Maverick XLT
$38,892
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$33,339
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$37,629
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$33,339
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$38,169
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$39,369
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$47,098
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$44,449
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$47,220
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Voodoo Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 2675281A
- VIN
- 5TFCZ5AN5KX179849
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Pedersen ToyotaReviews
Pedersen Toyota review
Cori was incredible. She was engaging, caring, patient and thorough. This is my 4th Volvo and she showed me more features and 'how too' then I have ever been shown on any previous Volvo. She also connected with us personally and was genuinely interested and caring in who we are and what was important to us. She also worked very well with the Sales manager as a team, and they both were efficient with time and helpful.
2019 Toyota Tacoma review
I bought a 2019 Tacoma with 89k. So far performance is fantastic and can definitely experience the quality build. This has made me skeptical of the reviews about poor engine build and transmission problems like hunting for gears. Can't pretty much dispel the proven track record of the 2019 as one of Toyota best build of the year. As for the transmission, it is still the best performing and reliable 6 speed transmission as compared to the other brands with high failure rates. One of the reason I stick with Toyota because I once had another brand manufacturer bought new and as soon as it hit over 100k, transmission problems or some solenoid problem. As for the engine, the dealer even included a lifetime engine warranty. That just tells me, they never expect the engine to fail. the review with the engine knocking sounds like an another brand car. it just doesn't happen to a toyota.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4L V-6 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- T0472A
- VIN
- 5TFJU4GN5FX069770
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pedersen ToyotaReviews
Pedersen Toyota review
Megan Alayon was super easy to work with. No games, straight forward throughout the whole process. Richard in finance was super easy to work with also. I would highly recommend Pedersen Toyota.
2015 Toyota Tacoma review
Bought my 2015 TRD Off Road Tacoma new off the lot and it has been a solid truck. I have only had to do a few things to it here and there, but I pull a trailer with a 1200lb SXS to West Virginia several times per year. In other words, I use my truck! I love it. Like any vehicle it isn't perfect. It has a few squeaks and rattles and there are things that could've been improved, but the engine and tranny are still going strong at 186k miles. I do hate that the headlights are prone to haze over and there is a noticeable whistle when traveling at 70+mph especially during crosswinds. The touchscreen display is impossible to read in bright sunlight because of the angle, and the blower fan could use more adjustment. As it gets older I have noticed there is some leakage of air to the defroster because the airway door isn't closing off completely. I can live with that. I have people ask me all the time if I want to sell it and I'm like NOPE! I'll keep it as long as I can.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cactus
- Int. color
- Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 26H590A
- VIN
- 3FTTW8B95RRB76612
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Honda of GreeleyReviews
Honda of Greeley review
We bought this wonderful CRV new in 2016. It is the best vehicle that either one of us has ever owned. We were dedicated Ford people. We have always brought the CRV here for service and always will because of this excellent dealership. We wish Honda had a line of full size pickup trucks.
2024 Ford Maverick review
My 2024 Maverick Lariat has the FX4 Off Road Package and the 4K Towing Package. It is one year old today and has 2,700 miles on it. It has been flawless without even a single rattle or annoyance. The Off Road package is very capable and it made 13 off road adventures to the ocean beaches this past summer.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6
- Stock #
- 121435
- VIN
- 3TMDZ5BN0PM167625
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoSavvy WindsorReviews
AutoSavvy Windsor review
Sales staff (manager) was very helpful. Answered all my questions and went above and beyond to satisfy my but in the end I made the decision not to buy the flex from them . I would have had to fly from western New York to Colorado to purchase the can and sight unseen got me nervous so I passed up the opportunity to buy the car
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
I’ve owned Toyota’s for over 20 years and have not been disappointed. My 2023 Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 keeps that tradition. I bought the 23 model year for the naturally aspirated V6 engine given that in 24 the model went to a 4 cylinder turbo. I’ve only had it for a month but love everything about it. The build quality is true to Toyota and the ride is comfortable. I’m very happy with my purchase.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 PDI DOHC 24V LEV3-ULEV70 278hp
- Stock #
- 119522
- VIN
- 3TYCZ5ANXNT089630
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoSavvy WindsorReviews
AutoSavvy Windsor review
Luis Vasquez wasasuper helpful salesrep I had timely issues on my end and he was Johnny on the spot with any questions or problems not that there were any. I got the suv my family needed at the price we neededLuis Vasquez wasasuper helpful salesrep I had timely issues on my end and he was Johnny on the spot with any questions or problems not that there were any. I got the suv my family needed at the price we neededsalesrep I had timely issues on my end and he was Johnny on the spot with any questions or problems not that there were any. I got the suv my family needed at the price we needed
2022 Toyota Tacoma review
Love this truck's features and look! Only criticism is leg room in backseat! Other than that, it is a great truck that will hold its value and build equity well! 9.5/10
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6
- Stock #
- 119093
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN1PM651767
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoSavvy WindsorReviews
AutoSavvy Windsor review
Purchasing a vehicle from AutoSavvy Windsor was a day long process, but worth the time. We were able to test drive several makes of vehicles, all in the same class of SUV’s but with different levels of features, and pricing. Their inventory is vast. Frazier was patient and guided us to similar cars based on our needs. He remain neutral, attentive, and not once made us feel pressured to decide, or buy, allowing us time to reflect and compare what we actually needed, that also kept in our budget.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
Best mid size truck hands down!! Very reliable and handling is incredible. The V6 in this truck is a beast! Bullet proof!!!! Plenty of power for this truck 👍 it’s not a race car, it’s a beast of a 4X4 and has enough power to get the job done.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blazing Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Graphite w/Gun Metal
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE variable valve cont
- Stock #
- TN669602A
- VIN
- 3TMAZ5CN2GM006775
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fort Collins NissanReviews
Fort Collins Nissan review
The overall experience was great, Bodie and Jesse were very helpful. Thank you for an easy out of state purchase.
2016 Toyota Tacoma review
This vehicle seems to be an outstanding vehicle for its class. The only reason that I'm not giving it five stars for comfort is that it rides like a truck -- which is what its supposed to be, but quite comfortable for a truck. The other four star rating I gave it was because it was not available with a manual transmission. Again, it's a truck, not a car and trucks, as working vehicles should be available with a manual transmission -- but people today don't want to actually have to DRIVE a vehicl.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 3.8L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, VVEL variable valve control,
- Stock #
- RC288263Q
- VIN
- 1N6ED1FK5NN632251
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fort Collins NissanReviews
Fort Collins Nissan review
Great place man. Excellent service and sales department. I would recommend Fort Collins Nissan highly
2022 Nissan Frontier review
Great vehicle; super reliable as long as you keep up with the maintenance. Nissan provides exceptional service when it comes to preventive maintenance and their customer service is superb. The only complaint I have is the nonexistence of wireless CarPlay.
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$32,982
Est. $590/mo Fort Collins Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- AF31-1
- VIN
- 1C6HJTAG7NL101918
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fort Collins Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, RAMReviews
Fort Collins Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, RAM review
Just to say thanks to the salesman that help me on the process of getting my new truck, his name is Neytown Cory, I get great service from him and I recommended to my friends this dealer and specially this salesman he is great!
2022 Jeep Gladiator review
My jeep gladiator is perfect for all my needs. Better gas mileage than my previous truck and also has a great 4wd system. I will probably keep this one a long time. Have taken several road trips and some light off road driving, it has been great for both.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Space White Metallic
- Int. color
- Navy Pier
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 338665B
- VIN
- 3FTTW8JA1TRA31246
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Loveland Ford LincolnReviews
Loveland Ford Lincoln review
I once again had a great experience at Loveland Ford. The salesperson Pat Seery did a great job and helped put together a great deal on my new Expedition Tremor. This was the sixth vehicle I purchased from Loveland Ford and the team there always does a great job.
2026 Ford Maverick review
I purchased the Maverick Lariat Hybrid a little over a month ago. I have 1500 miles on it now. It has all the bells and whistles on it. I bought it not because of the price but because it was small and what I needed for my use and all the safety features included. I can pick up things for the house and yard and carry off the trash. It has sign recognition as well as speed adjustment. If I am going 55 and the speed goes down to 45 it will decrease my speed. It is a setting you can turn on or off. It also has true lane centering. Technically as long as you keep your hand on the steering wheel it is almost self driving. It is getting about 45 MPG now. I am told the longer you drive and get more miles the more the MPG will actually go up. I am really glad I purchased it. I have nothing but positive things to say about the truck. The dealer gave me the Ford support line on a couple of issues I had with the software and the support staff cleared up the issues. They stayed on the phone for over an hour correcting the software issue and the settings in the console. It has been a positive experience for me.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snazzberry Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- MGSTML518689
- VIN
- 1C6JJTAGXML518689
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mike Shaw Subaru GreeleyReviews
Mike Shaw Subaru Greeley review
Came in for some quick fix after my muffler rusted off they got me a new and better exhaust system for a low price and did it very quickly theybwere super helpful explaining everything throughout the whole process
2021 Jeep Gladiator review
Having been a Wrangler operator for quite a while, I traded a 2018 Rubicon Recon JK. The Gladiator Sport S is more comfortable on the highway. The suspension is much softer than any of my Wrangler Rubicons have been. It's not a major deal since Florida doesn't have much in the way of rocks to crawl over. On the other hand, it has a lot more storage.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- None
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- I-FORCE 2.4L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve con
- Stock #
- D1808
- VIN
- 3TMLB5JN6SM160365
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Weld County Garage GMC HummerReviews
Weld County Garage GMC Hummer review
Great experience! When I contacted Weld County Garage about a used vehicle, Sales Consultant Miguel Orozco provided exceptional service. Due to my 1.5-hour commute from the WCG location, Miguel provided photos and videos of the vehicle so I could be sure it was worth taking a full day off. I later learned that Miguel had come in on his day off to assist me, a gesture I genuinely appreciate. Having visited numerous dealers in my search, Weld County Garage stood out as the most helpful, professional, and customer-centric. They were not just interested in making a quick sale, but in understanding what I was looking for and finding the right vehicle that fit my needs and those of my family. Unlike many dealerships, WCG encouraged me to take the vehicle to my mechanic for a pre-sale diagnostic check, and all details listed on/about the vehicle were 100% correct. Like many, I have never had a pleasant experience purchasing a used car. However, thanks to Miguel and Craig, the entire process was painless and drama-free, instilling in me a newfound confidence in car buying -- especially with the right dealership staff. Thanks for a great experience, WCG!
2025 Toyota Tacoma review
Toyota is just a great brand… My new Tacoma eats a little more gas than my previous one, probably because of the turbo. The performance, however, is great! It’s very comfortable, I notice it the most on long drives. I find the nighttime visibility really good compared to any other car that I’ve ever owned: The tech is okay but I want a lot more.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Alert
- Int. color
- Charcoal w/Lava Red Stitch
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 3.8L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, VVEL variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 2712005A
- VIN
- 1N6ED1EKXPN616535
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pedersen ToyotaReviews
Pedersen Toyota review
Jeff Gipson & his team were a tremendous help in our purchase of a used car for our daughter at CSU. Jeff eased the challenge of buying a car cross country with all his experience in working with parents & students. He was proactive & responsive, identifying a fantastic & safe used car of high quality while staying within our budget, all over the July 4th weekend. The team's coordination of inspecting & servicing the car, processing paperwork, & final delivery of the car minimized the stress of the buying process. We had peace of mind knowing that such an important decision all the way from Connecticut was handled by a knowledgeable, trustworthy team. We highly recommend Jeff Gipson to any student or parent looking for a car.
2023 Nissan Frontier review
I have a 2023 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4 crew cab. I test drove the Honda Ridgeline before buying the Nissan. Honda is a car not a truck. Nissan has a steel boxed frame, Honda is a uniframe tack welded. Both vehicles have the Mercedes transmission. My Nissan Frontier is a great driver. It feels like a truck and is a comfortable ride. My Frontier can tow 6700 lbs not that I would max tow with it. All other small trucks are turbo charged nightmares. Very satisfied with my purchase and I’m a picky person.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sarge Green Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Saddle/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 2675363A
- VIN
- 1C6JJTBG3NL108803
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Pedersen ToyotaReviews
Pedersen Toyota review
I am a college student and not always sure what to do when getting vehicle serviced. The people there explain to me what needs to be done and my options. I have experienced great service at this dealership. The experience here has been much better than I received at other dealerships.
2022 Jeep Gladiator review
The best vehicle that I've ever owned! It's never needed to go back to the dealer for any work or new vehicle adjustments. I will get another Gladiator after this one!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super White
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P1450
- VIN
- 3TMCZ5AN6LM297836
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
2 MazdaReviews
2020 Toyota Tacoma review
I love my Tacoma. I've always been a GMC person, but wasn't happy with their smaller pickup options. I made the jump to a Tacoma and I've already driven it across the country. I was very comfortable, extremely happy with performance.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Electric Lime Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 2644084C
- VIN
- 3TYSZ5AN8PT154912
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pedersen ToyotaReviews
Pedersen Toyota review
I did not buy anything, but when I visited the dealership, I found the employees to be friendly and helpful. The salesman I worked with was Mark and he was very nice and responsive. Despite the fact, the dealership was extremely busy that day, Mark came and met me within a few minutes of my arrival he was able to juggle several customers at once and allow me to test drive the vehicle I was seriously looking at.
2023 Toyota Tacoma review
From top to bottom probably the best automobile I’ve ever owned.Ive owned several different types of vehicles and not one reached the level of performance as my Toyota Tacoma.it is the perfect vehicle for me.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Black
- Int. color
- Steel
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 4L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- T1301030A
- VIN
- 1N6AD0EV3HN751103
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
Loveland Buick GMCReviews
2017 Nissan Frontier review
Great mid-size truck. We bought it in November 2022. I had to replace the throttle positioning sensor and that is all. 4.0 auto 5 speeds. It woud do a better if 6 speed, but I still get 19-20 mpg if I baby it. The 6 cylinder has good power at over 260hp. I recommend the frontier. My son has a 4 cyl 1997 hardbody now for 12+ years. Both trucks are great.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Navy Pier/Medium Slate
- Drivetrain
- All Wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Premium gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve co
- Stock #
- P3663
- VIN
- 3FTTW8F95NRA75879
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Crossroads Hyundai of LovelandReviews
Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland review
Had a phenomenal experience purchasing a car from here the other day. Bought a brand new Santa Fe.
2022 Ford Maverick review
I own the 2022 Ford Maverick XLT Hybrid and so far with roughly 28,000 miles on it I love it. Cannot believe the gas mileage that I get. From April thru Nov I am in the upper 40's to low 50's. That is driving in the cities and highways between the cities. Any long travels on the expressway and my mileage drops to the mid to low 30's. When I purchesed it in 2022 I stayed with the standard XLT interior and I do not regred not upgrading it. It is comfortable for a vehicle and it is quiet. I have easily gotten 4 golf bags in the truck bed and 4 golfers in the cab with one of those golfers standing at 6 foot 8 inches. I've also been able to get 2 10 foot kayaks in the bed with no problem. Yes, they extended beyond the tailgate but had no problems. So far I rank my purchase of my 2022 SLT Ford Maverick Hybrid as one of the top two vehicles I've purchased in my life time, and I will be 74 in 2025.
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$26,796
Est. $479/mo Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sting-Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-speed automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- P3662
- VIN
- 1C6HJTAGXPL550304
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Crossroads Hyundai of LovelandReviews
Crossroads Hyundai of Loveland review
I worked with Lorie she got me a great deal and a sales team was amazing!
2023 Jeep Gladiator review
Over the course of owning various 4 x 4's, the Jeep Gladiator has to be my favorite. Not only does is have the top of the line creature comforts, but it does what it was made to, go through off road rugged conditions - and it does it exceedingly well. The only vehicle that has come close to being an off road workhorse like the Gladiator was my Int'l Harvester Scout II and I have had Blazers, Hummers, F150's, Cherokees, etc.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- TAN
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatc
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 regular gasoline, engine with 175HP
- Stock #
- 2517-SCT
- VIN
- 1GCCS14X0W8163178
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
Great timed replies and working to get my price and dtermine location of unit.amen
1998 Chevrolet S-10 review
This has been my first vehicle and it's so easy to drive. Super fun too! Perfect for street driving around town and any small projects. It's super easy to park and it has excellent visibility out the back and sides. I've loved it and I'm sure you will too.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RED
- Transmission
- 700r4 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.8L
- Stock #
- 3030-ORD
- VIN
- 1GCBS14R5K2245854
Features
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
You guys at the dealer ship are awesome, the transport, not so good,but i found one,Thank yall so much
1989 Chevrolet S-10 review
I have a 1982 chevrolet S-10 Long bed, single cab, 5 speed manual transmission, Bench seat has a hole in the drivers side and the door doesn't open on from inside the cab. 2.8 litter V-6, strong, dependable, excellent on gas, 13.5 gallon tank, drove it to augusta and back, round trip 245 miles and I had a 1/2 a tank of gas left. doing all the work on her my self and help from others as well. as soon as I get her insides fixed i will get her ready for a paint job cause she deserves it. thank You for listening to my story about my 250.00 pickup. Would love to get a newer model pickup with crew cab and long wheel base, 5 or 6 speed manual transmission, blue or black , V- 6 or 8 not picky H