Used Volvo cars for sale near West Springfield, MA
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$39,778
Est. $721/mo Mercedes-Benz of Springfield
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Metallic
- Int. color
- Maroon
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- P1919151
- VIN
- YV4062PN5P1919151
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of SpringfieldReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Springfield review
Brought my ‘24 GLE in for a check engine light and a rear window washer blockage. Service tech found exhaust baffle blocked due to icing, heated and greased with great success. Tech also found washer fluid line blocked and frozen. This problem was also corrected. Tech performed a complete vehicle inspection as well. All service work was accomplished with no charge. The dealership also provided me with a brand new 2026 GLC courtesy car for the day. Five Star ⭐️ service including my time spent with Tom O’Connor my service advisor!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Fjord Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C207123
- VIN
- YV4L12UK8R2207123
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
Gengras Volvo review
Picked up a new S-60 this week. The salesman Lance Jewel was exceptional. He was not only knowledgeable about the car and what it had to offer, but demonstrated a dedication to making sure that I knew what to expect from the car. A true pleasure to deal with him. The dealership is lucky to have him.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C392853
- VIN
- YV4L12RW6P1392853
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
2023 Volvo XC60 review
I'm a 18 year loyal Toyota SUV guy and I switched to a new XC60. Lovering Volvo in Nashua were great. Sales Mgr Dan was fantastic. No pressure. This is the nicest & most comfortable car I've owned. Fun to drive & easy on gas. Too new to comment on reliability but its safety systems are impressive. Sound system is next level too. I would highly recommend.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C211711
- VIN
- YV4L12UK1R2211711
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
Gengras Volvo review
Sales agent very knowledgeable. Didn't feel pressured by staff into committing. Answered emails back promptly. Overall, good experience.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C731453
- VIN
- YV4L12RL9R1731453
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras Volvo -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cloud 9 White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C322064
- VIN
- YV4L12UL0R2322064
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
Gengras Volvo review
Vecdet Yagtu was very attentive and knowledgeable. This is the third car we purchased from Vecdet. Also, the financial process was easy. Tyler Durdan was efficient and helpful during this process.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Denim Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C715825
- VIN
- YV4L12RL6R1715825
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras Volvo -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C083332
- VIN
- YV4L12UW9P2083332
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
Gengras Volvo review
Went over and above to have the used car I bought spotless!
2023 Volvo XC40 review
This is my 2nd XC40 and it is one of the most perfect cars but its by no means cheap. The car can be as loaded as its bigger brother, except for heads up display. They all use the same engines, with the exception of turbo types, and bi-turbo options. All Volvos are moving to mild hybrid as standard and all 2023 XC40's are now mild hybrids. The XC40 is nimble, loaded and well designed. It has just about every feature including all wheel drive, Google auto, panoramic sunroof, power tail gate, and leather seats, redesigned for 2023. It is stylish, detailed and not meant to feel like the entry model. In fact, it can cost more than its bigger brother the XC60! Driving it is a pleasure as it is preppy and confident.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- C198484
- VIN
- YV4L12RW6P1198484
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gengras VolvoReviews
Gengras Volvo review
I've been a customer for about 8 years and have never been dissatisfied with the service and sales department. The service associate Peter Busher informs me of every aspect of service for our Volvo's. We have Tony Dinino perform all the service and we leave with confidence of peace of mind that it was done correctly. Our sales rep Vecdet was able to find me a great S60 that's been pure joy to drive. These are the reasons that keep me coming back and allow me to give Gengras Volvo a 10 rating.
2023 Volvo XC60 review
Wonderful experience. The dealership was very pleasant and he made sure we got a good deal. We appreciated all the time and patience. Love our car!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum Grey
- Int. color
- Blond
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 457b845fac184db46fa63ee47a9522df
- VIN
- YV4L12RN9P1384589
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury review
Great service as always! The Service center is very helpful. Love my Volvo XC 40!
2023 Volvo XC60 review
This is 100% one of the best cars I’ve owned. Comparing it to my previously owned Acuras, Audis, BMWs, Buicks, Cadillacs, GMCs, Land Rover Range Rovers, Mercedes-Benzs, Porsches, Volkswagens, this is one of my top favorite vehicles for comfort, performance, technology, driving, etcetera. I 10/10 recommend.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Blonde
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- b845a534ac1836316e8e0c16600e0c66
- VIN
- YV4L12UL4R2222291
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury review
Everything was perfect. Always is. Aoise is wonderful to work with, but my exchanges with everyone has been great!
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$65,144
New 2026 Volvo XC90 B6 Core 
$80,939
New 2026 Volvo XC90 Plug-In Hybrid T8 Plus 7-Seater 
$48,280
New 2026 Volvo EX30 Twin Motor Ultra 
$47,942
New 2026 Volvo XC40 B5 Plus 
$53,229
New 2026 Volvo XC40 B5 Ultra Black Edition 
$74,887
New 2026 Volvo XC90 B6 Ultra 7-Seater 
$46,007
New 2026 Volvo EX30 TWIN MOTOR CROSS COUNTRY ULTRA 
$55,518
New 2026 Volvo XC60 B5 Plus 
$53,229
New 2026 Volvo XC40 B5 Ultra Black Edition 
$52,591
New 2026 Volvo XC40 B5 Ultra Black Edition 
$56,680
New 2026 Volvo XC60 B5 Plus 
$43,897
New 2026 Volvo XC40 B5 Core -
$40,216
Est. $729/mo Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Dawn
- Int. color
- Maroon Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 8d91e413ac182108bf40a7265d8dd858
- VIN
- YV4062RA9P1364554
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
2023 Volvo XC60 review
Love this suv however when driving just a half hour the dash screen went black with a message “infotainment system cooling” restarted the car but no change. This had to be a recall but can’t find any info. Poor quality in an expensive car. Service department at dealer won’t answer their phone. Hoping they will call back
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70203666
- VIN
- YV4M12RC6S1148123
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax HartfordReviews
CarMax Hartford review
I purchased a 2009 Nissan Rogue on 10-11-12. It was an easy, actually fun experience. The sales man was not pushy, it was an easy process and everyone was very helpful. I love my new car. I would recomend carmax to anyone who wants a stress free car buying experience.
2025 Volvo XC60 review
Great first experience with a Volvo. We were looking for car that could possibly be a single car that would suit our needs moving into retirement. This car appears to check all the boxes for safety, reliability, economy and luxury. We need a mid dive suv that will give us comfort on longer trips as well as the economy of the smaller 4 cylinder without compromising power as provided by the turbo. The warranty and manufacturers maintenance plan are a benefit as well.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vapour Grey
- Int. color
- Blonde
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- a8d208edac1840e211115ca91e89e07f
- VIN
- YV4L12UL7R2318402
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury review
As usual, everything about my appointment was perfect! Expectations are always met. I would highly recommend!
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$49,695
Est. $900/mo Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 4a9e0ab5ac184db46fa63ee404150e8b
- VIN
- YV4062PFXR1151646
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
$43,294
Est. $784/mo Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Dawn
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 02999926ac180cb6fbf5ec490c5649fe
- VIN
- YV40621A5P1906244
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sand Dune
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 7a7786bcac18013719a6da342a82e044
- VIN
- YV4L12UC8S2554952
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury review
I’m happy with service at Mitchell Volvo. Whenever I call they respond and I have an appointment within days it’s problems with a flat. Otherwise we book out. Respectfull to customers.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vapour Grey
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 886ba4c3ac18253135a6da021c24da9f
- VIN
- YV4L12RK1R1744706
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury review
I would rate Mitchell Volvo’s service department at 10 out of 10 for providing excellent service, reliability and performance! The staff is excellent and very professional while also listening and attentively to the customers. An exceptional staff of very capable people.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum Grey
- Int. color
- Blond
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 7550a58aac185005b9496b41c5341617
- VIN
- YV4062PE7R1154026
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- d5b41ffbac185eec87751305e6d6ba02
- VIN
- YV4H60PF2S1312925
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White
- Int. color
- Blond
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- dffafb79ac185eec8775130546266be4
- VIN
- YV4062PE7R1187852
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
2024 Volvo XC90 review
On September 18, 2023, I purchased a new 2024 Volvo and am happy that I chose to do business with Patrick Volvo in Schaumburg, Illinois. Shortly after my arrival at Patrick, I was very lucky that I was courteously approached by Belen Amador, my Client Advisor. Because she was not pushy (I appreciated that very much), I chose to accept Belen’s assistance throughout the buying process. I was pleased that I had a seamless transaction because of Belen Amador’s expertise and exemplary customer service. She was knowledgeable, helpful and thorough before, during and after the sale. Patrick Volvo is fortunate to have Belen on their staff because she is an excellent representative for their dealership. There is no question that when I need another Volvo, I will most definitely contact Belen. It was my pleasure that I had the opportunity to do business with her. In addition, I would not hesitate to highly recommend Belen and Patrick Volvo to anyone else interested in buying a Volvo. I have purchased many cars over the years, and I must say that I do believe this was the best car dealership buying experience I have ever had. Thank you, Belen and Patrick Volvo!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 702de6e7ac185d005aaedd201a03cd0a
- VIN
- YV4062PN6P1998314
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
2023 Volvo XC90 review
Never had any major problems with the car. Mostly software problems but they were quickly fixed with a restart/reset of the system. The ride is bery comfortable and on long drives a pleasure to sit it. The place this car has is huge and every passenger has largly enough space. The car is slightly underpowered for such a heavy tank (only 235PS) but is still enough to have a comfortable ride (low RPMs) on the highway. I average 37-33mpg which gives me about 700 miles of range and if you’re not in a hurry and drive about 50-60mph you can even go up to 900 miles on the highway (I drive the mild-hybrid). I feel also safe driving it, thanks to all the assistants it has and the safety-history.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vapour Grey
- Int. color
- Blond
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 65de6bcdac1825bc039c1527a4002132
- VIN
- YV4H60DM0R1750940
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Dawn
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- 65de6d58ac181c46cc452f1f14f38304
- VIN
- YV4062PN7P1933097
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of SimsburyReviews
2023 Volvo XC90 review
Great car. Comfortable ride. Simple but luxurious design. Passenger comfort is excellent. Sound system is very nice. One small complaint, not enough storage space. No big deal. Definitely the right purchase
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Dawn
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Stock #
- f8901691ac180acbe92e69db43abe560
- VIN
- YV4062PE2R1186950
Dealer
Mitchell Volvo Cars of Simsbury -
$33,998
Est. $616/mo CarMax Columbus Easton
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29055347
- VIN
- YV4L12WK4S2148140
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Columbus EastonReviews
CarMax Columbus Easton review
Bought my car about three years ago from Vince at Easton. We had such a positive experience that my husband bought his truck last year. In between, I suggested to my mother that she call Vince and buy her car, she did, and was very satisfied with the car, Vince and the entire process. A few months ago, my sister needed a car....yep....called Vince and now she is driving an awesome, like new car! Of course she is just as satisfied as the rest of us were! By the way, we live almost two hours away from Car Max Easton. Worth the trip! Whenever I am ready to trade, I will be calling Vince! As a matter of fact, I was very surprised to see anything other five star reviews. None of us had even one complaint.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vapour Grey Metallic
- Int. color
- Indigo Blue/Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 600818
- VIN
- YV4EK3CL7T2600818
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
RechargedReviews
Recharged review
One of the absolute most positive experiences I’ve ever had purchasing a vehicle. I appreciated the time they spent with us the non-pressure sales and then explaining the technology to first time EV owners you cannot go wrong picking from this dealership would buy from them again.
2026 Volvo EX30 review
Ultra Trim No more gasoline for me. This car is extremely fast and nimble. It's small and that's a plus in city streets It is VERY quiet and the Harman Kardon sound system is very nice. There is a learning curve with this car and as I get more used to the system, the more fun this car becomes. I am using level 1 charging so I just plug into a standard 115V outlet and that is plenty sufficient for me.