Used Chrysler cars for sale near Roachdale, IN
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$14,849
Est. $256/mo York Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Plainfield
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- PF26042A
- VIN
- 2C4RC1EG6JR352582
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
York Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of PlainfieldReviews
2018 Chrysler Pacifica review
I leased a new Pacifica Limited S in 2018 and when the lease expired after three years I bought it and drove it for three more years. I liked it so much that I just leased a new 2025 that is very similar to the 2018. The 2018 was extremely dependable and served us well for transporting my boys (grandsons), other family and friends, kayaks, bikes, skis, and numerous trips to Goodwill Industries. It never needed any significant mechanical repairs and it never left us at the side of the road in the nearly 90,000 miles we had it.
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$38,538
Est. $664/mo Ray Skillman Hyundai of Avon
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- CJ4687
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GGXSR538804
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ray Skillman Hyundai of AvonReviews
Ray Skillman Hyundai of Avon review
This was my very first time buying a vehicle from race coming Hyundai Avon Brandon, and the amazing finance team from the second I pulled into the lot they treated me as a human being, not just as someone there to make a commission off of. I love my car, love my service that I got from them Highly recommend Ray skillman Hyundai Avon! Cannot say enough about them
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- Ext. color
- Metallic Blue
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5 sp Automatic
- Engine
- 3.2L V-6 premium unleaded, engine with 215HP
- Stock #
- 3134-HOU
- VIN
- 1C3LN65L28X074726
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
Very professional and very prompt in responding to questions. If you're looking for a classic car in top condition they are one of the top dealers in the country. They are expensive but if you want a quality used vehicle the prices are fair.
2008 Chrysler Crossfire review
Car meets all my expectations.. hopefully I'll own it soon. Feel like a queen while driving it around town. It's my favorite color in a car.
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$19,594
Est. $338/mo Unlimited Motors
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- Ext. color
- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- STK535804
- VIN
- 2C4RC1L75MR535804
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
Great selection of high end quality vehicles. Would definitely recommend to anyone in need of a luxury vehicle
2021 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid review
After driving my Pacifica Pinnacle for more than a year I must confess it is the best vehicle I have ever owned. The power and feel of this on the road is amazing and both interior and exterior has gotten so much compliments. Not to mention the fantastic gas savings running around town in EV.
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$26,429
Est. $455/mo Speedway Subaru of Indianapolis
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- P0266
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG0SR578770
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Speedway Subaru of IndianapolisReviews
Speedway Subaru of Indianapolis review
Front row buying experience! With Speedway in the name, they have a lot to live up to in my house. Working with Steffon was easy and informed. He made every effort to answer my questions and accommodate my requests. . . all with the continued support of his associates. Thank you Nick and Jon for the quick responses. I highly recommend this dealership (under new management in OCT 2024) and particularly Steffon for getting me into the right car at the right price with no hassles.
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- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- R637813
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG1HR637813
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Penske HondaReviews
Penske Honda review
Staff was very friendly and was very helpful when it came to me making my decision.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica review
Have owned 6 pacificas and they are great. We get about 30 mpg on the highway. Can’t complain except the nav system needs some work.
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- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- HCVP232422
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG1PR507990
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Hare ChevroletReviews
Hare Chevrolet review
Very professional employees, absolutely no hassles and great communication throughout the repair process. I would recommend this dealership to anyone needing a car or service.
2023 Chrysler Pacifica review
Andrick was very nice and very helpful. I don't have the best credit or a good down payment but he did everything possible to get me into a car. Very helpful!
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- Ext. color
- Blue Streak Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- P16172
- VIN
- 2C4RC1EG1JR322051
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Hubler ChevroletReviews
Hubler Chevrolet review
Pleasant process when purchasing my new vehicle. Marc Kriech was great and very professional. He was knowledgeable and listened to my requests and help me find the perfect vehicle for me
2018 Chrysler Pacifica review
bought 2018 Pacifica in January 2019. lowest base model they had. no power doors or power folding seats (manual so nothing to break later). was disappointed in navigation option (looked like it was included, but was not). we ended up using android auto and that works ok so not a big deal. love the power. 3.6 liter engine gets us onto freeway with 7 people and luggage very quickly and easily. auto engine off at stops is great gas saving feature along with 9 speed auto transmission. no issues with transmission after 5 years of usage. plenty of space for storage. 2018 model complaint. no auto headlight on/off. Really Chrysler? that should have been a no brainer default in this day and age. Purchase price was $40,000 for the base model. (I always like to know what people paid for the car :)
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Cordovan Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unleaded, eng
- Stock #
- M26293B
- VIN
- 2C4RC1FG4JR279260
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Tom Roush MazdaReviews
Tom Roush Mazda review
I recently purchased a Mazda CX5 Turbo Signature SUV from Tom Roush Mazda in Westfield. After a month of research and test driving SUVs, this vehicle was everything I was looking for, a safe, reliable, comfortable and sporty vehicle. I worked with Brent mostly, Lee and Shawn. They all have years of experience in the auto industry and at this dealership, answered all my questions, and made my purchasing experience an easy and great one. I can't say enough good things about this dealership. It is family-owned, has a professional, knowledgeable and experienced sales and service department, and excel in customer service. I would highly recommend this dealership to anyone in the market for a new or used SUV, this is definitely the place to go. Karen McDowell
2018 Chrysler Pacifica review
I bought my van new. It has 150k mikes and I have only had very minor issues with it. It has been a reliable source of transportation for me as I drive long distances several times a year. I particularly love the way the seats go into the floor. I have hauled so much stuff. I love my van.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded V-6 3.6 L/220
- Stock #
- 5P8834
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG1SR511846
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Ed Martin Buick GMCReviews
Ed Martin Buick GMC review
"I just picked up a 2026 GMC Sierra 1500 Denali Ultimate from Ed Martin Buick GMC, and I couldn't be happier with the experience. Arthur-Zarddy Gwion Jr. was phenomenal to work with. He treated the whole process with the level of professionalism you’d expect when buying a flagship truck. He was transparent, knowledgeable about the new tech, and made sure every detail was perfect. If you’re looking for a high-end vehicle and want a high-end experience to match, go see Arthur!"
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$37,975
Est. $654/mo Ray Skillman Buick GMC South
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- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- N2830B
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG0RR103803
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ray Skillman Buick GMC SouthReviews
Ray Skillman Buick GMC South review
Great work always! They are a pleasure to do business with. We will buy and service only with Ray Skillman. Thanks for always taking care of our automotive needs.
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$24,655
Est. $425/mo Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Silver Mist Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- PV2149
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG8RR123157
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
I needed some work done on my Chrysler Pacifica and Andy Mohr was great at completing the work in a very short time. They replaced the mirror on the passenger side of the car in less than 2 hours. I’m very happy with the job and the time it took . Working with Shelby was a great experience.
2024 Chrysler Pacifica review
This car is very nice very comfortable got power jet black inside white and black and it only had 42,000 mi we love the car thank you
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$47,806
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica SELECT 
$47,532
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica SELECT 
$42,490
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica LX 
$45,236
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica Select 
$45,236
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$53,675
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica Limited 
$47,745
New 2027 Chrysler Pacifica L 
$42,490
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- NP507364
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG8SR507364
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Penske ChevroletReviews
Penske Chevrolet review
First purchase from Penske Chevrolet but won't he our last. Penske helped us find and buy our exact dream car, even though it was many miles away. Plus, they helped us get the right kind of financing to make it a reality. No high pressure sales - just competence, professionalism, great communication, and kindness!
2025 Chrysler Pacifica review
Nice vehicle. We purchased new...price was one reason why compared to other vans. Our old vehicle was a Town & Country, this vehicle has some pleasant surprises. Better power and a better ride. Handling & response are very good, not clumsy like some vans. Great safety features throughout the vehicle. Things I don't like... the power rear side flare windows are gone and there isn't as much storage . In order to get better storage, you have to upgrade to higher end models. No overhead storage panel in some models. I certainly don't like the fact that there is no spare tire anymore but I know that the car industry is moving that way, which is just a cost saving measure for them. Door protection side strips have disappeared - they used to just be a standard item but now, are an "option", which is pretty lame. Roof pillars tend to cause more obstruction in my view as I'm driving but the Pacifica has alert safety features that are helpful. Information screen is pretty easy on Chrysler. Overall, its a nice vehicle.
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$28,980
Est. $499/mo Ray Skillman Northeast Mazda
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V VVT
- Stock #
- U1207
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG5RR148842
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ray Skillman Northeast MazdaReviews
Ray Skillman Northeast Mazda review
This was my second time leasing through this dealership. Mikayla was great and handled most of the communication through text which made it very easy for me with my schedule. Mikayla and Franklin are super friendly and make you feel very welcomed. Love my new Cx-5 !
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- SR3606
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG1LR109861
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Indy Auto ManReviews
Indy Auto Man review
Salesperson was very helpful and knowledgeable. Gave me the information I requested and answered all my questions.
2020 Chrysler Pacifica review
Been reading some of the reviews about people who have trouble with their Pacifica. I bought a touring L plus 31/2 years ago and it’s been one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Had one small problem with the sliding doors, showing me that I should wash sensor under car. Learned that all you have to do is pull a fuse under the hood and the signal on the dash goes away. Haven’t had that problem for over 30,000 miles. Runs great drives great and is comfortable. I don’t know what more I could ask. Most of the time 29 miles to the gallon on the highway or more. It is true that stop start won’t work if the batteries are bad or low I just replaced my batteries and now everything is fine again.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- IHO6896B
- VIN
- 2C4RC3GG8MR553851
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Indy HondaReviews
Indy Honda review
My salesman was very knowledgeable about understanding what I may have been looking for in a vehicle. The service provided throughout the buying process was excellent! Would highly recommend.
2021 Chrysler Pacifica review
We wanted another dodge Durango, until we drove a Pacifica, we love it and would recommend to anyone, it handles better than our Mercedes or jaguar
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