Used coupes for sale near Altadena, CA
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$17,313
Est. $325/mo Karplus Warehouse Inc.
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Metallic
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- N184940
- VIN
- 1FA6P8TH0J5184940
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Karplus Warehouse Inc.Reviews
Karplus Warehouse Inc. review
Thank you Karplus for giving us a chance to close this deal. Juan Acevedo was awesome! He was very patient, calm, and understanding. Please look for him if you need help getting your next car. Thanks Juan!!! And thanks to the manager too who was sweet and helpful- Elizabeth😃
2018 Ford Mustang review
I bought this car as the baseis of a new hobby build. It had the performance options I wanted and was an automatic. Two items the dealer failed to disclose were worn tires and two curb checked wheels.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic Sport
- Engine
- 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 614063
- VIN
- WBA83DA03TCV20533
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific BMWReviews
Pacific BMW review
Initially when I responded to the dealership on three separate occasions (driving 60 miles for each trip), I walked away with dissatisfaction each time. However, My Client Advisor Mr. Frank M. subsequently came through as promised. He promised to hit a home run and did so after I informed him that he needed to work harder to assist me as a prospective buyer on a strict budget. Fortunately, to make a long story short, Mr. Frank fought for me and the GM accepted my offer and a deal was made. WOW, I wish this could have been done on the first day rather than the fourth day when I showed up to the dealership. This is why I gave a four star rating. In short, thank you Mr. Frankie for your support!
2026 BMW M440 review
Over the years I've heard a great deal of the outstanding driving experience and fabulious features of the BMW cars. Now that I have purchased a 2026 M440X I understand their praise. The slogan " The Ultimate Driving Experience" is not just an advertising gimmick. I'm still learning the many, many cool features of my car even after the excellent tutorial by the Dealership and reading the manual. In short, I'm sold on Germain Engineered cars and am now part of the BMW family. Too bad US car manufacturers don't make this quality of car. My opinion, is that it the cost would be outside the reach of most Americans.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Canberra Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic Sport
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 614247
- VIN
- WBA63DA01VCX73778
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific BMWReviews
Pacific BMW review
James and Nelli were low key, thorough, and knowledgeable. I got the car and deal I wanted. Lucy in Finance was also amazing.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Stainless Steel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 20159
- VIN
- SCEDT26TXBD002569
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 19836
- VIN
- 0000004H27K544854
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Colonial White
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 20044
- VIN
- 0000000D7FH252612
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1957 Ford Thunderbird review
Great value for the money. Safely and reliably drive anywhere. Has never left me high and dry while driving to/from car shows and cruise nights.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cabernet Red
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.8L I6 12V SOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 19156
- VIN
- JN1CZ04S4DX750712
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- 19388
- VIN
- 2G1FK1EJXD9169989
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
2013 Chevrolet Camaro review
Car was bought as a graduation gift by my dad and I love it! Better than I thought it would be on gas for a car of this reputation, have yet to have any issues out of it and I got it with a great deal of miles on it. Always getting compliments on it as well which is nice.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Ivory White
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 232158A
- VIN
- W1KMJ6BBXTF116250
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific BMWReviews
Pacific BMW review
I bought a used car that was highly sought after, based on it having only 2k miles per year and it's price point. I worked with Ed, who went out of his way not only to reassure me that I had secured my spot as the buyer, but also provide me with photos and updates as the car went through the reconditioning and detailing process. Ed was extraordinarily responsive, answering my (many) texts within minutes! Ed demonstrated exceptional professionalism, caring and compassion. I would buy another car from him in a heartbeat.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19529
- VIN
- WP0EB091XFS161058
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 18786
- VIN
- 00000000FB3192000
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Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.0L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 20274
- VIN
- WP0EA0910CS162363
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Beverly Hills Car Club -
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New 2026 Dodge Charger Scat Pack -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Yellow
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 19856
- VIN
- 00000001552011387
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.0L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19035
- VIN
- WP0AA0916CS120438
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic Sport
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 614252
- VIN
- 3MW23CM07T8F95531
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific BMWReviews
Pacific BMW review
I had an amazing car-buying experience at Pacific BMW thanks to Bob and James. From the moment I walked into the dealership, both of them went above and beyond to make sure I was comfortable and well taken care of. Bob was incredibly knowledgeable, attentive, and patient as we looked at different options. He took the time to answer all of my questions and made sure I found the perfect vehicle without ever making me feel pressured or rushed. James was equally phenomenal, handling the logistics and communication flawlessly. His professionalism, transparency, and friendly attitude turned what is usually a stressful process into an absolute breeze. Even after the sale, his communication has been excellent. If you are looking for a seamless, honest, and top-tier experience at Pacific BMW, I highly recommend asking for Bob and James. They are absolute professionals who truly care about their customers!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Stainless Steel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 20200
- VIN
- SCEDT26T1BD003822
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19412
- VIN
- WP0AB091XJS121862
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Communication from the dealership was prompt, even as the car was currently pending sale with another buyer.
1988 Porsche 911 review
I have owned Porsches continually over a 30 year period - 2 of them 930's. The early 80's Euro spec Turbos (I owned a 1981) were VERY tricky to drive, and the turbo came on with brutal suddeness. The later 87 - 89 Turbos are much more refined in terms of turbo boost, and engine management, yet JUST as much fun to drive. People suggest that the 89 is the best year because it had the G50 (5 speed ) transmission. I wholeheartedly disagree with this, the 1988 with Porsches' square cut geared, 4 speed, is the pure RACING transmission designed by Porsche to handle 550 HP. It is extremely robust, and basically bullet-proof unless they are abused... The 3.3 litre Turbo has TREMENDOUS torque especially for such a light car, so the extra gearing of the G50 is not necessary. As for the G50: its' only benefit was the first gear syncro whose ratio is way too low - making it almost silly to use. It is not nearly as strong as the 4 speed, which by the way, Porsche continued to use in their racing EVEN after the introduction of the G50 - that tells the whole story I think. The turbos - if you get one that has been taken care of, will provide you with years of reliable driving. All 3 of my former Porsche 911/930's I sold for more than I purchased them for. There are VERY few cars that, like a good 911/930 do more than just hold their value - especially if you can acquire a well taken care of rare model.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Yellow
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 19308
- VIN
- 0000000J661E32806
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 19619
- VIN
- 0000006Y85Z136310
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1966 Ford Thunderbird review
Great exterior styling. Interior is also very nice. If your over 6 feet tall you might find it a little to small, but for all others its very nice with a ride that is very smooth. Plenty of power with its 390 cu. in. V8 engine, it also has all the luxury features like power windows, locks, steering and brakes True luxury from years gone bye.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan / Gold
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 20139
- VIN
- 0000138570L176448
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alpine White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic Sport
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 229956
- VIN
- WBA43DA0XTCX22882
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Pacific BMWReviews
Pacific BMW review
I came here for positive review for Harut salesman (Armenian)Pacific bmw).I upgraded my phone and was not able to connect to Bluetooth to my card connection. Called several times no one was able to figure out until today I was transferred to Harout he was so nice professional and knowledgeable. Thank you for all your help and give him raise and he is a keeper.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 20145
- VIN
- WP0AB0913JS121783
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
It was fine. I had a question and got an answer. Here is four more words.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.2L H6 12V SOHC
- Stock #
- 20112
- VIN
- WP0AB091XGS120820
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Just awesome 👌🏾 👏🏾 👍🏾 😍. It helped out alot. Much recommended if you are looking for a new whip. I enjoyed it alot
1986 Porsche 911 review
Iconic car, which just get better with age, these cars are worth more money every year. The performance the style, Screams Sport car..... The 80'S Porsche will continue to be the legend of Porsche cars.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Blue Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.8L V8 16V SOHC
- Stock #
- 19610
- VIN
- WDBBA25A3BB001734
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Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Olympic White
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.8L V6 12V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- 20088
- VIN
- 2G1WX12K239231950
Features
- Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
2003 Chevrolet Monte Carlo review
Currently driving my 2003 Monte Carlo SS for a work car. Great suspension and power to go vroom vroom around people. Currently has 244k miles. Only issue with it is a sticky lifter that causes oil to be burned, but have zero leaks as far as exterior leaks go. 26mpg going 80-85mph. Beautiful car to look at too and very spacious and nice that the doors are wide almost open at a 90° angle which doesn't make me wish I was driving my Cruze instead. My 5yr old daughter loves the moon roof.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Millennium Yellow
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- 20212
- VIN
- 1G1YY12SX15122216
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Didn’t buy the car however communication was awesome And I look forward to making a purchase soon!
2001 Chevrolet Corvette review
I recently bought a 2001 C5 base automatic with 59,000 miles on it. I absolutely love this car. I’ve been using it as my daily and have put about 2,000 miles on it in about 5 months and it’s been nothing but great. Mine does have the Z51 package so it’s a little stiff and bumpy but with a sports car that what you expect. The only problems I’ve had are sometimes one of the pop up lights doesn’t go up but the good thing is there’s a hand crank for when that happens so you can put them up and the radio in mine had an issue where the lights on it would stay on and drain the battery but it is a 23 year old car so a few small electrical issues don’t surprise me. Besides that it’s been a great car so far and for anyone looking for a good, reliable, great looking sports car I don’t think there’s a better one out there especially for the money, it’s also plenty fast, I’ve recorded a 4.4 second 0-60 in mine on a non prepped road and all the mods mine has is a straight pipe muffler delete with no tips and pipes and a cold air intake so it’s pretty much stock. Overall I absolutely love this car and I hope to keep it for a long time (or until I get a C7 corvette) but I’d definitely recommend it if you can find a decent one for the money!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mineral White Metallic
- Int. color
- Tacora Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- VCX79430P
- VIN
- WBA83DA01VCX79430
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Porsche Beverly Hills -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brown
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 19640
- VIN
- 0000002Y83Z117521
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
Beverly Hills Car Club review
Nice to view these great vehicles. Thanks for letting me search. I'll visit more often
1962 Ford Thunderbird review
Very good candidate for easy total restoration. One 6 inch rust spot, several small surface rust spots. Drives great. Gets smile and thumbs up on road.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 19622
- VIN
- 000000007K1049021
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Matte Black
- Int. color
- Steel
- Transmission
- Manual
- Stock #
- 20147
- VIN
- 00000009114112776
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car ClubReviews
1974 Porsche 911 review
sharp styling, hugs the road like Velcro, classic style. Very fun sports car. Nothing like a Porsche!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Stock #
- 19732
- VIN
- 0000002F93H510126
Dealer
Beverly Hills Car Club -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ibis White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Dual Clutch
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- MP12661
- VIN
- TRUBFAFK8F1000391
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarizonaReviews
Carizona review
I’m not one to praise car dealerships but my experience with Carizona has earned it. Sales guy AJ was great. No xx, no pressure, all good vibes. Same with the manager and the finance team.
2015 Audi TT review
I have owned a Porsche and a few other sports cars. My favourite was the Audi R8 but it was not something I liked leaving in a parking lot when I wanted to go out. I settled on the MKII Audi TTS body style for its style and stance. It is the perfect car for 1-2 people to cruise around town in. You don't have to worry about people messing with it so it's great for a night out and using valet. It is so fun to drive and people love the way it looks. One of the best cars I have ever owned.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70257359
- VIN
- JTHGZ5BC3R5028205
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax FresnoReviews
CarMax Fresno review
This was the most relaxed and efficient purchase my wife and I have ever made. We were in and out with a RAV4 in less than two hours, including a test drive. The salesman, Joshua, was fantastic. There was zero pressure to buy but lots of information and help in making our decision.