Hybrid cars for sale near Moon, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Winter Frost Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 46-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- eCVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 Atkinson Cycle 16V DOHC
- Stock #
- N260908390T1
- VIN
- JHMBF1D63TX001360
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
John Sisson NissanReviews
John Sisson Nissan review
I recently purchased a vehicle from John Sisson Motors and had the best salesman. Mason Cooper was so helpful and explained every aspect of the car I was interested in. When he lifted the hood, I commented how most of what was under the hood meant nothing to me ......wrong.......Mason's explanation was full of useful, interesting information. Mason made the entire purchasing process seemless.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- CUTTING EDGE
- Int. color
- Black / Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- 26993MVT
- VIN
- JTDACACU6T3057385
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Spitzer ToyotaReviews
2026 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid review
I love my new Prius. It is elegant in appearance, fun to drive, and easy to plug in and recharge. Since I began charging it I haven't used any gas. I love the safety features.
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$53,497
MSRP $56,039
Est. $976/mo Spitzer Toyota
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-24
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V PDI DOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- 26MV0902
- VIN
- 3TYLC5LN1TT082075
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer ToyotaReviews
2026 Toyota Tacoma Hybrid review
This is my 2nd new 2026 Tacoma Hybrid LIMITED. Why the limited? Full time 4WD with ability to bypass center differential and go full time 4WD high and low, like the non-limited versions. I found that the torque was too high in anything but the full time 4WD limited hybrid, and the rear wheels would slip. If not full time 4WD, can't put into 4WD proactively seeing a dangerous situation ahead and making a turn until you are in the bad stuff, which is normally too late. In my humble opinion, if you don't have this specific variant of the Tacoma, it isn't worth it. The solid full time 4WD is worth it in all driving conditions from dry, to wet, to snow. No rear wheel slip pulling out of a slight incline on dry pavement. Even with weight in back, the non-full time 4WD models slip. That said, there are things about this that are annoying. The handoff from electric to gas can be jolting or grate on your nerves like hearing a bad song over and over again. However, the MPG gain, is music to my ears, instead of 16 or maybe 17mpg, I'm usually at 24mpg on a mixed run of city, suburbs, and highway. This is not like other hybrid models, in operation or smoothness. You will sometimes find when cold it is a bit clunky or unpredictable with shifts and stuff. And sometimes, braking can be unpredictable as to how much pressure is needed. I haven't figured out why, but think it has something to do with the hybrid as a non-hybrid 2025 trd off road I had, didn't have that issue. Now, the other annoying thing, and happened on both of the 2026 limited hybrids I bought. The drivers seat, the seatback, will recline all the way to touch the rear seat bottom cushion. Seems to be when you walk out of range with remote and car is running. Why? Don't know but will look into it when it goes in for its first service. The good stuff is many, and one of those is the A/C. It's a hybrid A/C system so it's not dependent on the gas engine running to put out super cold A/C. That is a must for me. And while there are no back seat vents for A/C, it cools the whole thing off well and quickly. The ventilated seats are also amazing. The large radio screen, the big dials to turn up/down the temp, and radio, these are awesome. Being able to see all around the truck, well that is so nice, no chance you won't see something. I know I use the auto on feature, so when starting out, or below 10mph, the cameras come on automatically. The remote features are also amazing. A digital key in your phone, a credit card sized physical key for your wallet, and the app will all let you get in and start and drive your truck. So if you forget your key, you can move on without it. You can set your HVAC settings from the app on remote start. You can check status of tire pressure, doors open/closed, windows open/closed, etc. via the app. Priceless. Overall, it's a great truck for me, an older guy who needs the legroom nothing else really can provide except a competitive mid-sized truck, but can't get as a hybrid and full time 4WD. Besides all of that, Toyotas do hold their value. When I traded in my Tacoma TRD off road that was about 3 months old, I didn't lose any money on it. They are in demand. And so are these models. The electric tailgate is awesome and would not want to do without anymore. Parking assist sensors are very helpful. And if people tell you the front spoiler underneath the truck looks stupid, I'll tell you that after a couple of days you never even see it let alone worry about it. If it helps mpg's, it stays on. The lights are all LED's in and out. The LED cargo lights and trailer light are very useful. Same with the puddle lamps and door marker lights for when a door is open to prevent others from seeing it Is open.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- 27175MVT
- VIN
- 1C4RJXN61RW147092
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer ToyotaReviews
Spitzer Toyota review
Excellent customer service by Hicks deena, she always makes customer satisfied at the service center
2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe review
Bought my 2024 used with 13k miles on it. Maybe I'm old school due to prior life with a 97 TJ and and 01 XJ but this car is fantastic to drive and very luxurious. Perhaps not as tech heavy as other SUVs, but it does everything I could hope for, and has been fun for road driving and light off roading.
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$40,834
MSRP $42,880
Est. $745/mo Jim Shorkey Kia North Huntingdon
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- Ext. color
- Wolf Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- K20636
- VIN
- KNDPXDDG8V7454021
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Jim Shorkey Kia North HuntingdonReviews
Jim Shorkey Kia North Huntingdon review
Jason is the service department is very professional and a great asset to the Irwin Shorkey Family Dealership.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE varia
- Stock #
- T126EW00
- VIN
- JTM7ERAV1TJ022750
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
#1 Cochran ToyotaReviews
#1 Cochran Toyota review
#1 Cochran Toyota (412) 706-7010 Best dealership in Pittsburgh! High integrity Sales and Service team!!! If you need anything they are the place. #pittsbugh #cars
2026 Toyota RAV4 Plug-In Hybrid review
Had for a month now. Do most of our driving on electric. 1000 miles since buying it and only used about 100 miles on hybrid engine. Can charge from 0-100% in about 2.5 hours on dedicated EV 240. Mileage is great. Handles fantastic. Have woodland trim and getting closer to 55-56 miles per charge. It is FAST! love the updated technology and screens. Much more modern, looks more EV. Traded in 2022 RAV4 Hybrid that we loved and even happier with the plug in version. With the fuel efficiency it has as a hybrid the EV range isn’t much cheaper where we are but feels great to do most of our driving in electric and better for the environment!
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$43,848
MSRP $43,358
Est. $800/mo #1 Cochran Toyota
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- Ext. color
- 0089/
- Int. color
- EA40/
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 41-38
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-i variab
- Stock #
- CT250823
- VIN
- 4T3B6RFV5SU195459
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
#1 Cochran ToyotaReviews
#1 Cochran Toyota review
I just bought a pre-owned car at #1 Cochran Toyota in North Huntingdon, and I couldn't be more pleased! Their staff provided A-1 service from beginning to end, I got the exact price I wanted, along with a payment plan that matched my budget to the letter, All my questions were completely answered there were no surprises and no hassle, My salesman did not try to pressure me to purchase the vehicle. Unlike other dealerships I went to, here there was absolutely no pressure, just a wonderful experience. The finance process was transparent, equitable, and trouble-free what every car-buying experience ought to be. The overall experience. Made me feel appreciated, informed, and excited about my purchase. In a nutshell, #1 Cochran Toyota provided just what each person deserves: a square deal, transparent terms, and a smile. They won my trust. This is hands down the finest dealership experience I've ever had! Big thanks to the whole crew at #1 Cochran Toyota for making this experience easy and fun. I am loving my car and how you guys treated me. I would be happy to send all my friends and family your way.
2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid review
It’s a great practical car. No frills, reliable, and spacious. Very efficient given its size and space. Is it going to win any competitions for speed and luxury? No. But will it get you from A to B with a bunch of space, slowly sipping on gasoline? Yes!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Iconic Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Navy Pier
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- AF260316N
- VIN
- 3FTTW8H38RRB33840
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
#1 Cochran FordReviews
#1 Cochran Ford review
This had to be one of the easiest buying experiences, outside of carvana, that I ever had. Everyone was friendly and attentive. No extra push or pressure for extras and were decently fair in regards to trade in. In and out within two hours. Definitely would by from them again.
2024 Ford Maverick review
Only has had one glitch, the passenger window switch died after about a month, but that's what the warranty is for, and they fixed it. The hybrid is rated at 38 mpg I think, but I'm getting closer to 48, I log my mileage, so that's a reliable number. Front wheel drive so you don't have the light rear end traction issues. Feels and drives more like a car, but when you want to load stuff the bed is there. Unless you want a big heavy duty truck, which it isn't, there's nothing not to love about it.
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$53,268
MSRP $52,778
Est. $972/mo Spitzer Toyota
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- 26MV0957
- VIN
- JTM7ERAV8TJ041618
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Spitzer ToyotaReviews
2026 Toyota RAV4 Plug-In Hybrid review
I have had the car one month so far, RAV4 plug n see They say I can go 50 miles on electric charge, I am getting 55 to 58 depending on my driving style with running the a/c. So far I have not used a drop of gas. I am charging at night from 10pm to 7 am using 110 standard plug. The lowest I have taken battery down is 28%. Our local electric company has great rates from 12 to 6 am, I have figured my charging cost at about .64 cents per night for a full charge. The car is very quiet and smooth, with the horse power at 300 plus it is very quick. Looks great and runs like you want.
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$45,495
MSRP $45,005
Est. $830/mo #1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 39-35
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI SOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- AJ270003
- VIN
- 3C4PJMC29VT550811
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny ValleyReviews
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley review
#1 Cochran CJDR is by far the best dealership I have ever dealt with!! My sales, to post-sale follow-up and service, i have had nothing but 110% positive experiences with them. Just yesterday, my Wrangler was due for inspection, it was a brand new 2024 I purchased earlier this year, but had July inspection stickers. I really didn't even think about when I bought it, but both my service advisor and the sales manager went above and beyond and did the inspection on their dime since I only had it a few months. I was not expecting that, but they truly take care of their customers!! I highly recommend them. So much so, that after my Jeep I purchased 2 more vehicles from this dealership, one for my wife and one for my youngest daughter, and a Hyundai at the Monroeville Hyundai dealership. Each sale was absolutely a breeze and their pricing is hands down the best on any vehicle and makes the process so simple for everyone involved!!!
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$46,090
MSRP $45,600
Est. $841/mo #1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley
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- Ext. color
- Sting Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 39-35
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI SOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- AJ270001
- VIN
- 3C4PJMC20VT550812
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny ValleyReviews
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley review
This is our second purchase from #1 Cochran! We love the ease of shopping, the no hassle obligations to purchase any extras if not wanted. The staff are friendly and go the extra mile to make you feel like you are their only customer. They had a ll the paperwork ready when we arrived to sign. They even noticed a dirty spot on the windshield and took it back in to be cleaned. That may seem small, but it shows they notice details!
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$46,090
MSRP $45,600
Est. $841/mo #1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sting Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Global Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 39-35
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI SOHC Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- AJ270002
- VIN
- 3C4PJMC22VT550813
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny ValleyReviews
#1 Cochran CDJR of Allegheny Valley review
This was one of the best car buying experiences that I have had. Dominic was very ate to my questions and listened to my needs. We live 3 hours away and he had everything ready on our arrival so that our wait time was minimal.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Antimatter Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Java
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo Hybrid
- Stock #
- 261072
- VIN
- 1FTFW6LD2TFB23018
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Fairway FordReviews
Fairway Ford review
Bobby Eddy was a great salesman! Got us into the exact car we were looking for, for the best price. Met all of our needs perfectly. Worth the hour drive for us!!
2026 Ford F-150 review
F150 XLT Surprised by how smooth the ride is. It’s quite up front but I hear road noise from the rear of the truck. Seats are comfortable and the rear seating is massive. I can’t believe how much space there is back there. I am very impressed with the mileage and power from the 2.7 Towing is easy for the 2.7 which did surprise me. It tows my dual axle travel trailer with ease. But gas milage while towing is not good. The sync 4 system still needs improvement. It works well but is not intuitive. Things that should be easy to find are not well optimized. The steering and handing is very relaxing but the brakes are extremely touchy. Just the weight of you shoe will surprise you. All in all it’s a very nice experience driving this truck and it feels well built. I have approx 3000 miles on it now and no issues. And that includes towing my travel trailer. This from a former GM fanboy…..
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$87,063
MSRP $86,650
Est. $1,588/mo Scherer Volvo Cars
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- Ext. color
- Denim Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal Ventilated Nappa Leather
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 5G013
- VIN
- YV4HD0JF8V1574886
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Scherer Volvo CarsReviews
Scherer Volvo Cars review
My wife and I met with Michael he was a good guy willing to have some small repairs done to further the deal dealership was clean and friendly the vehicle I was interested in I did not purchase good experience though