Used minivans for sale in Lake Saint Louis, MO
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- 200559
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG9RR126593
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ackerman ToyotaReviews
Ackerman Toyota review
This was the best car-buying experience I?ve ever had. David Henley was kind, patient, knowledgeable, and prompt when helping me buy my new Prius. I walked in expecting to get into a used car, only for David and the finance manager to help improve my situation with a brand new Prius at an incredibly low price! These people really care about not letting people get upside down in a loan that only hurts them in the long run. I will absolutely be returning here when my wife and I are ready to purchase a new mini van for her.
2024 Chrysler Pacifica review
This car is very nice very comfortable got power jet black inside white and black and it only had 42,000 mi we love the car thank you
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- 200559
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG9RR126593
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ackerman ToyotaReviews
Ackerman Toyota review
This was the best car-buying experience I?ve ever had. David Henley was kind, patient, knowledgeable, and prompt when helping me buy my new Prius. I walked in expecting to get into a used car, only for David and the finance manager to help improve my situation with a brand new Prius at an incredibly low price! These people really care about not letting people get upside down in a loan that only hurts them in the long run. I will absolutely be returning here when my wife and I are ready to purchase a new mini van for her.
2024 Chrysler Pacifica review
This car is very nice very comfortable got power jet black inside white and black and it only had 42,000 mi we love the car thank you
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$47,872
Est. $881/mo Elmhurst Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Sepia/Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- P1023
- VIN
- 2C4RC3PG7RR188960
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Elmhurst Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- CU7587
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG5PR559406
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Countryside MitsubishiReviews
Countryside Mitsubishi review
Sam provided me with the best service experience , good prices, explained how things go in my car , I have zero experience with cars, he went out of his way to explain everything for me and made things clear
2023 Chrysler Pacifica review
Andrick was very nice and very helpful. I don't have the best credit or a good down payment but he did everything possible to get me into a car. Very helpful!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unleaded, eng
- Stock #
- H17687-0
- VIN
- 2C4RC3GG7NR174695
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Suntrup Hyundai SouthReviews
Suntrup Hyundai South review
We had the pleasure of working with Billy Willis. He was so knowledgeable and placed zero pressure on us. It was by far the easiest experience we’ve had. We couldn’t be happier with our 2022 Tucson or with the service we received from Billy!
2022 Chrysler Pacifica review
I have owned dozens of cars, trucks and minivans. This vehicle is the most versatile of them all. The V6 AWD is great on the hwy. And the steering is nimble in street driving. I would recommend to anyone to purchase. Stow and Go seats are best in class.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- 267710
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG2SR568984
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Sapaugh GM CountryReviews
Sapaugh GM Country review
Sapaugh Service Dept always goes above and beyond servicing my vehicle. We have purchased several new vehicles from Sapaugh and will continue to do so.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- PE0636
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG7RR154822
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Don Brown ChevroletReviews
Don Brown Chevrolet review
Paul is really a great salesmen. I felt comfortable with him and the whole experience was pleasant
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- R89217
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG7SR562252
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoCenters NissanReviews
AutoCenters Nissan review
i meet steven online for a purchase a vehicle he take all time to help me a out everything go smooth even finance help me a lot first time i buy a car finance persone help the really good i from florida i go all the day to get this car cus they take of me thank you again steven for helping me
2025 Chrysler Pacifica review
Nice vehicle. We purchased new...price was one reason why compared to other vans. Our old vehicle was a Town & Country, this vehicle has some pleasant surprises. Better power and a better ride. Handling & response are very good, not clumsy like some vans. Great safety features throughout the vehicle. Things I don't like... the power rear side flare windows are gone and there isn't as much storage . In order to get better storage, you have to upgrade to higher end models. No overhead storage panel in some models. I certainly don't like the fact that there is no spare tire anymore but I know that the car industry is moving that way, which is just a cost saving measure for them. Door protection side strips have disappeared - they used to just be a standard item but now, are an "option", which is pretty lame. Roof pillars tend to cause more obstruction in my view as I'm driving but the Pacifica has alert safety features that are helpful. Information screen is pretty easy on Chrysler. Overall, its a nice vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- 273355A
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG8KR522584
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Serra Honda O'FallonReviews
Serra Honda O'Fallon review
I took my car to service and as usual, great experience. Kasye Latner was very knowledgeable and professional. Never any complains, just outstanding customer service!
2019 Chrysler Pacifica review
Purchase car used in 2021 from rental car company, 70Kmiles. So far have had no problems. Stow and go seats makes this a great utility vehicle plus seats are comfortable for road trips and concert going. We’re empty nesters so it’s the party bus. The transmission can buck during “hill assist” but keeping the gas steady and allow it to do its job, it doesn’t need your help. 90K miles on it now. Swore I was done with minivans, our adult kids laughed so hard when we got it but they borrow it all the time.
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$29,615
Est. $545/mo Laura Chevrolet Buick GMC of Sullivan, LLC
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Luxury White Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Deep Mocha/Black/Deep Mocha
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, eng
- Stock #
- G261663A
- VIN
- 2C4RC3GG9MR582047
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Laura Chevrolet Buick GMC of Sullivan, LLCReviews
Laura Chevrolet Buick GMC of Sullivan, LLC review
My business truck, in very cold weather, had a momentary maintenance code. While she was in for the code, I requested a service be done on the drive train, ie. tranx, diffs, and txfr case. Service representative Sonya got me in and out, back on my schedule, out of town, right on time. Her performance was exceptional, as was all of the aspects of my service with Laura GMC in Sullivan Mo!!!!
2021 Chrysler Pacifica review
We wanted another dodge Durango, until we drove a Pacifica, we love it and would recommend to anyone, it handles better than our Mercedes or jaguar
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$40,459
Est. $745/mo Jack Schmitt Chevrolet Wood River
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Shiftable Automatic
- Engine
- 6 Cylinder
- Stock #
- P8411
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG9TR224918
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Jack Schmitt Chevrolet Wood RiverReviews
Jack Schmitt Chevrolet Wood River review
Great experience with the Salesman, but the van was disgustingly filthy. Smelled of grease and headliner was heavily stained with something. Of the 5 identical vans we were looking at, it was the most expensive and not even the lowest mileage. This vehicle was not ready to be seen by potential buyers.
2026 Chrysler Pacifica review
Big delay in the apple Carplay starting up. Plus the adaptive cruise control is not smooth at all. We have a 2019 Toyota Camry and its ACC is much smoother than the one in the 2026 Pacifica. The ride itself is comfortable. We had 5 adults and everyone had plenty of room.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- P26058300
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG2SR556088
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Dave Sinclair FordReviews
Dave Sinclair Ford review
Everyone was nice and the place was extremely busy. We worked with Nick who was working with 2 sets of customers at the same time, he did a pretty good job of handling both. We test drove a truck and tried to work a deal, but it just did not get down into our price range.
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$22,821
Est. $420/mo Dave Sinclair Ford
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- eFlite SI-EVT
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- 6108401
- VIN
- 2C4RC1L76NR105670
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Dave Sinclair FordReviews
Dave Sinclair Ford review
We have purchased 6 cars or trucks from Dave Sinclair Ford or Lincoln. They have always treated us well during and after the sell. We tried to buy a Chevy EV Bolt this month but the service was so bad we choose to keep our Lincoln instead. If I had not moved to the east coast last year, I would continue to only buy from Dave Sinclair.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- R89090
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG9SR555696
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoCenters NissanReviews
AutoCenters Nissan review
Autocenters Nissan was easy to work with. Our salesman Bryan was knowledgeable and worked with us to finalize the sale. Good experience.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular gas
- Stock #
- R89091
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG6RR182773
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoCenters NissanReviews
AutoCenters Nissan review
OMG!! This dealership and all the staff treat us like FAMILY! Traded our Nissan today for a SUPERB new Kicks and Don Baker, our salesman demonstrated customer care and compassion all through the process. Most "painless" car purchase ever! 5 stars is not enough--10 is more like it!! Thank you, thank you, thankyou!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Velvet Red Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unleaded, eng
- Stock #
- PJ0651
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG5MR600264
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Don Brown ChevroletReviews
Don Brown Chevrolet review
Sterling did an amazing job on my new purchase. Don Brown Chevrolet is a 5 star dealer!
2021 Chrysler Pacifica review
We got the new 2021 Pinnacle edition. Most dealers/sales persons did NOT know the second row of seats were not stow n go. Most of them also really did not know how to install/work with CarPlay. We had to figure out most of the stuff ourselves because they couldn’t. You tube really helped!
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