Used sedans for sale in Donora, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Desert Sand Mica
- Int. color
- Bisque
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 264854A
- VIN
- JTNBE46K473121435
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
Dealer
Budd Baer MazdaReviews
Budd Baer Mazda review
Just purchased a new CX-30. Very pleasant experience! Our salesman was Mike and he was great and very knowledgeable of the accessories. We spent extra time with him on learning all the SUV features and he didn’t mind at all!
2007 Toyota Camry review
My grandma drove this car off the lot, brand new. Has been a great car. After a few years it was passed on to my mom, then my dad, and now me. I’ve driven this car for 3 years now but unfortunately there is too much maintenance to be done for the money. Around 160k miles for us it has had minimal issues so I’d say it’s a great car. It started when we got back from a trip and one of the cylinders were misfiring (which was a spark plug and an easy fix). Around 170k miles we were driving it and it ended up overheating. We got it towed and it ended up being the water pump going out (as well as the serpentine belt needing to be replaced). After that we drove it for a few weeks but it started running rough, then we went to go home from work one night and it was idling super rough so we drove it home and decided not to use it until we could get it towed to a mechanic. It was blowing out lots of white smoke. Turns out the head gasket has blown (which we think was from the overheating done originally). Car has officially made it to 173k miles. We were hoping more but it’s not horrible considering. Something to look out for is this also burns a lot of oil. Be sure to check it often, every two weeks depending on how much you drive. Wish the engine had a recall or something for that issue. Overall great car but from my reading, don’t get a 2007-2013 if used since these are the years for oil consumption issues.
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$41,906
Est. $757/mo Mercedes-Benz of Washington
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- BP00683
- VIN
- W1KZF8EB6PB188526
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Washington review
This dealership was the first of many that we visited searching for our next vehicle. Upon entering the building, we were happily greeted by Omeed Safagar. He was courteous, attentive to our needs, and was not pushy. What impressed us is that he sat in the car and showed us every detail from the passenger's side all the way around to the driver's side, to the cabin and cargo section of the car. He not only answered every single question, but he displayed knowledge about every feature. In contrast, every other dealership either made us wait to be seen, did not know about every feature of their car and "glossed over" their answers, and even one ended our visit abruptly to cater to another guest. The manager, Stephen Staats, was also a part of the experience and even predicted that we would be back. We laughed at the time, but he was right! The sales process was fantastic, and we highly recommend asking for Omeed if you are planning on visiting this dealership. We are very happy with our purchase and hope that the rest of our experience there is just as positive.
2023 Mercedes-Benz E-Class review
Overall, a well-built automobile. Over the terrible roads that exist in New Jersey, the car can be a bit harsh but stable. I am happy with the choice of model and it performs very well.
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$17,298
Est. $313/mo #1 Cochran Honda South Hills
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Obsidian Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- JH260593A
- VIN
- 5YJ3E1EB5JF054069
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
#1 Cochran Honda South HillsReviews
#1 Cochran Honda South Hills review
I was immediately contacted after asking about the car and if it was still available. Very personable employee and knowledgeable. No pressure after I said I was still thinking about what I wanted.
2018 Tesla Model 3 review
Best Car ever! Elon Musk and his Tesla company did a great job with this reliable vehicle. Don't want any other car! It is so Reliable. I use it as a business vehicle and don't want anything else. no major breaks, always runs, pre conditioning features and app connection is unbeatable.
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$26,408
Est. $477/mo North Hills Auto Mall
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- 4.6L V8
- Stock #
- LIMO-42FT-JACUZZI
- VIN
- 1LNLM81W8PY674777
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
North Hills Auto Mall review
We can't say enough positive things about the staff here. Our experience was a complete success from start to finish. They were all professional but friendly..we will definitely come back if we need another vehicle. Feel confident to go straight to them and skip the anxiety.
1993 Lincoln Town Car review
Amazing car, topped out at 20mpg, interior is great, comfortable, the original stereo sounds great. Definitely a worth while purchase. All in all a great car despite the age.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Burgundy Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L I6 24V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L0066B
- VIN
- WBA63FJ0XRCS56836
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Smail ChevroletReviews
2024 BMW 540 review
Best driving BMW. Traded in 2013 550i. Torque, acceleration, & handling of new 540 surpasses my old 550. Could use more interior storage. The seats were slightly more Comfortable in my old 550. So far, I'm impressed with the new 540.
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$13,404
Est. $242/mo Fellini Auto Sales & Service of PITTSBURGH
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jet Black Mica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto, 6-Spd Spt Manual
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 457283
- VIN
- JM1GJ1V55G1457283
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Fellini Auto Sales & Service of PITTSBURGHReviews
Fellini Auto Sales & Service of PITTSBURGH review
Caring and courteous. Prompt calls and very knowledgeable about the vehicles on their lot. Great place to buy
2016 Mazda Mazda6 review
I feel very very proud when behind the wheel of my 2016 Mazda 6 Sport and driving it on highways! With record 35,650 miles, it drives very smooth and very efficient. It’s reliability and looks is what makes it a perfect car of my taste. Drive one and feel for yourself!
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$10,608
Est. $192/mo North Hills Auto Mall
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pewter
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 32-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4
- Stock #
- MINT CONDITION
- VIN
- JS2YC5A21A6310783
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
North Hills Auto Mall review
They were patient with me when looking over the vehicle very throughly. Very courteous to all of my various questions. Ashley was also great at explaining what all the warranties entail as well!
2010 Suzuki SX4 review
This is the best car I have ever owned. Very reliable and easy to repair. Mechanics will alsways take advantage because there are no many Suzuki around. But, you can do a decent job by yourself if you order spare parts. Is Suzuki back in Canada? They make reliable and less expensive cars. Thanks Suzuki, I ❤️ your cars!
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$33,273
Est. $601/mo Mercedes-Benz of Washington
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Selenite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- B26092614T1
- VIN
- W1KAF4HB0NR007894
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Washington review
Taylor was amazing I stopped in for her to help me with the Mercedes app.. very nice young lady and knowledgeable. Highly recommend. Amazing customer service
2022 Mercedes-Benz C-Class review
It’s my 12th Mercedes, this one by far is the best. My salesman Barry Martin always takes great care with me. The C Class technology is unbelievable
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 5-Speed
- Engine
- 2.5L I4
- Stock #
- BRAND NEW INSPECTION
- VIN
- 1YVHZ8BH5A5M41373
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
North Hills Auto Mall review
Easy, quick , efficient. Nice car and nice people. Highly recommend. Financing was also easy. Thanks.
2010 Mazda Mazda6 review
I absolutely cannot say anything for positive feedback about this vehicle. I purchased (used) a 2010 Mazda 6. This by far is the best vehicle I ever owned. No mechanical issues at all! I’ve owned it for 5 years and then passed it on to my son. I want it back! Only had to replace occasional brakes pads and stay up with oil changes. Mazda is amazing and I hope one day I will be able to afford a new one. I highly recommend. Safety is top notch in my book.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Charcoal
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V6
- Stock #
- MINT MINT CONDITION
- VIN
- 2G1WT57N991184476
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
North Hills Auto Mall review
Great experience. Ashley and Joe make it fun. Honest and trustworthy. Would highly recommend going there.
2009 Chevrolet Impala review
Love all the space and comfort of this car. Has good fuel prices economy and so far I haven’t had any mechanical issues. Bought it at 151k miles.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Infrared
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- P1523
- VIN
- JTHGZ1E29R5036594
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Colussy ChevroletReviews
Colussy Chevrolet review
It?s always a pleasure doing business at Colussy Chevrolet. This visit was with their Service Department. They always far exceed my expectations which is why they are the only dealership that I will visit.
2024 Lexus IS 350 review
Love this car! I’m a 60 year old female , I lease this Lexus and it’s so much fun to drive! Love the sleek look, the sport mode, the radio rocks! Not one complaint… I looked around… decided on the V6, IS 350, and it’s a pure joy to drive! You won’t regret it!
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$16,489
Est. $298/mo Ron Lewis Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Waynesburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Rosso Energia Pearlescent
- Int. color
- Cuoio
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- ZF 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, twin turb
- Stock #
- 6J098A
- VIN
- ZAM57RTA6F1144337
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Ron Lewis Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram WaynesburgReviews
Ron Lewis Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Waynesburg review
Our salesman Daniel “Alf” was fantastic from initial visit to final sale. Process was so easy and they even delivered it to our doorstep since my husband can not drive
2015 Maserati Ghibli review
It will flat out go. So much fun to drive. Obviously insurance costs are not great but the car is amazing. Sound system is a disappointment though.
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$27,765
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$30,535
New 2026 Honda Accord LX
$25,506
New 2027 Toyota Corolla LE
$27,946
New 2027 Toyota Corolla SE
$25,089
New 2027 Toyota Corolla LE
$28,300
New 2026 Mazda Mazda3 FWD w/Preferred Package
$22,577
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$31,180
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$61,750
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New 2027 Volkswagen Jetta 1.4T SE
$58,869
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ingot Silver
- Int. color
- Earth
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 27036MVX
- VIN
- 1FA6P0G74F5128784
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spitzer ToyotaReviews
Spitzer Toyota review
Diana Hicks was very efficient and considerate. Got the work done in timely manner. Keep up the good work. Thank you
2015 Ford Fusion review
Have had a wonderful time owning this car, very reliable and a fun drive. Good on fuel efficiency and a great commuter vehicle. Would recommend to own.
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$44,485
Est. $804/mo Mercedes-Benz of Washington
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- BL00846
- VIN
- W1K5J4HB1TN600071
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Washington review
Mercedes Benz of Washington (PA) diagnosed and fixed a problem another MB dealership caused. From the moment I walked in the door I knew I was in good hands with service writer Amy Nelson. I did not have an appointment for a Service B but Amy quickly got me in and arranged for a driver (Dale! Who was awesome!) to take me back to my office. A problem was found under the hood that only the MB dealership where I purchased the car could have caused. This is where Service Manager Bob Anderson came in. Bob went above and beyond to get my car properly fixed and out the door in record time. Come to find Bob has been at this dealership for 35 years. Unheard of these days! Bob and staff provided me with the utmost care and for that I am most thankful.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gloss Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- E29579
- VIN
- 2C3CCAAG4PH637294
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
CarShop - Robinson TownshipReviews
CarShop - Robinson Township review
I had a great experience with CarShop in Robinson Twp., PA. I had the pleasure of working with two great representatives. Both Chester and Delaney were helpful and information. They provided great communication from start to finish.
2023 Chrysler 300 review
I have be driving Chrysler products since 1968. This is my second Chrysler 300 and I love it. It is big enough, comfortable, and gets good mileage. Couldn’t ask for more.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crimson Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 93661570
- VIN
- 1N4AA5AP9EC497166
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Penn Detroit Automotive Group LLCReviews
2014 Nissan Maxima review
I had a 2002 Maxima. It made it through me, my daughter then son. I then decided to purchase the 2014 before the new 2016 model came out. What a smart move. I think this is the best model made. CVT is smooth. Its glides at 90 plus miles an hour. It jumps from 75 to 100 when you punch it on the expressway. I sold it to my son.....he is talking about selling it. I am going to buy it back if he does.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Red Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- L8046Q
- VIN
- 1G1145SL9EU100099
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Smail ChevroletReviews
2014 Chevrolet Impala review
Bought new in January 2014. So far it's been a reliable car. It's been back to the shop twice in almost 11 years for a leaking transmission line & a emission issue. Other than two recalls it's been good. Of course, I'm only at 67,676 miles. Oh, I forgot I had to replace the front two struts. When it was wet outside while turning I would get some vibration. Dealer had a TSB on it, the cost was 1,500 dollars. But overall the car has been fairly reliable. It's been quiet, roomy, comfortable and has decent power.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- M260930661T1
- VIN
- 3FADP4BJ6GM128590
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
Kenny Ross MazdaReviews
Kenny Ross Mazda review
Susie Fritz was an expert sales associate. So friendly, new my name two days later than the original visit; very professional, easy going, and newher product well. Jack Valentine was very helpful with my finances, explaining several options that I had and the pros and cons. Very efficient - my time was not wasted.
2016 Ford Fiesta review
I bought my 2016 SE from Bloomfield and for a small compact car the quality is equal if not better than a Honda Fit. The car has climate control, heated seats, rides nice and handles great compared to luxury sports cars I've owned yet 1/4 the price. I love it and feel it's made well. Motor has timing belt and wish they used the Duratec motor in here but it seems strong. My dual clutch transmission is great, it is not an automatic with valve body,they shift like bmw m6 and other sports car and it works absolutely normal.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 39-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- 1.6L I4
- Stock #
- DM170666STK
- VIN
- 3FADP4BJ9DM170666
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
2013 Ford Fiesta review
I've known the 2013 Ford Fiesta SE for the last 10 years, got it new back in 2013, it's at 168,300+ miles at the moment. Not fancy by any means, but the seating isn't bad if you're under 6 feet tall, for example I'm 5'5" and I have decent leg room and headroom, no one else but the driver gets an armrest, for entertainment it has Bluetooth and the speakers are nice, it gets the job done of going from A to B safely without costing an arm and a leg. Small eco cars of course may not favor well in accidents but that's countered by the cheap value, which is great for safe drivers who may not have deep pockets. 35MPG with 12 gallon tank gets you roughly 400 miles full at the 15K price range these days while being fairly reliable, can't really be beat. Only thing I've had to do is change out an electrical board piece, the caliper belt, brakes, battery and the tires, but that's just what it takes to keep a vehicle going long term. One thing I have noticed though is that the transmission has a tough time changing gears when you're at a stop and trying to accelerate out of the first gear, but after that it's smooth sailing. It's been doing that no worse or better for at least a year now, just a quirk at this point. Don't wanna waste any big money on a big part like that if it only happens in low speed conditions where it's safe to be quirky.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- UNDERGROUND
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 31-40
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- B260925330T1
- VIN
- 5YFT4MCEXRP207305
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Washington review
Minneapolis: 3AM: Awake, Can’t sleep. Doom scrolling nationwide for a new Mercedes, and after being dismissed by my local Mercedes dealers, I found the car I wanted at Sisson Mercedes in Washington, Pennsylvania. Filled out the “I’m Interested” tab, not expecting to hear anything back, and a few hours later…It was 3AM after all…I got an e-mail from Kristin Presutti at Sisson Mercedes about the car I was interested in…Being we are both Italian, She made me an offer I couldn’t refuse and I now await my new Mercedes to arrive in Minneapolis from the suburbs of Pittsburgh. It’s now days later and I have yet to hear from my local Mercedes dealers…I have been buying cars since 1979 and Kristin is truly the best salesperson I have ever dealt with. I cannot recommend her highly enough. Simply outstanding.
2024 Toyota Corolla review
Mine is an American made LE. It was bought at a time when very few stripped-down models were available. Using Toyota's parts website, I paid about 1/3 the price for options like the bumper protector, door edge guards, door trim, mud guards and all weather mats. True, it's got cheap materials and Toyota skipped even putting an engine cover to quiet it up (although, in Southern California, the engine cover can retain heat that's not as beneficial as it would be in a place further north). Regularly reaches 37 MPG combined short trips and 20-mile commutes. Longer freeway drives easily goes over 42 MPG. One of the most surprising things about this car is the OEM tires. They are solid, they maintain their air pressure over many months, unlike my friends' who also have bought new Toyotas and half much less consistent tires. The car is regularly parked outside with sun exposure and the exterior seems to hold up okay after 2 years. I did do a break-in oil change at 500 miles and I do oil changes at 5,000 miles. I need this car to last me a long time and the Toyota recommended service intervals will not lead to longevity. There are many Toyota experts who encourage even shorter intervals between oil changes based on Southern California severe driving standards. Too much traffic is considered severe driving. Something else, if this car were bought 55 miles South, in Mexico, the grade of oil would be very different. In America, 0W-8 is the official oil viscosity. In Tijuana, Baja California, 0W-20 is recommended and 5W-30 is even acceptable further south... On Toyota's own documentation! For the summer oil, I have 0W-16 put in it. The car is near the ocean and never has been exposed to anything near freezing temperatures. My friend helps me maintain the car and he gets a lot of information from a Toyota Master diagnostic technician on YouTube, "A Car Care Nut." As a final note, the optical systems that are used for safety for Toyotas have a service memo stating that their safety systems are only guaranteed if windshield replacements are done with Toyota glass and the devices calibrated with Toyota software. In car insurance, you have to show this information to your insurance company for them to approve the OEM glass and Toyota body shop work. The windshield and calibration easily runs over $2,000. I have seen those windshield companies claim that they calibrate the safety system only for it not to work in a future accident. Be your own best advocate and insist on Toyota glass and calibration. By the way, we also looked at Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi. The transmissions on the Nissan and the Mitsubishi are garbage, the Honda has so many systems to save fuel that negatively affect the engine, Toyota's reliability is often because they choose not to do risky fuel saving software settings.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snowflake White Pearl Mica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- NM260898A
- VIN
- 3MZBN1V35JM252177
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Cochran Mazda MonroevilleReviews
Cochran Mazda Monroeville review
Great experience at #1 Cochran Mazda. First time leasing a car, and the process could not have been easier. Every question I had was answered, the process explained very well, including the terms of the lease as well as pricing. Matt and Bryan were great, felt very comfortable discussing everything with them. No pressure to add additional services or packages. Extremely satisfied with the process, service, price and most importantly the vehicle. Would highly recommend. Thanks guys!
2018 Mazda Mazda3 review
I haven't owned a 4 cylinder in a long time. I had a turbo 5 Volvo, a 6 cylinder accord, and a Mercedes c300 6 as my last three cars, then before that I owned a last model year RSX (2006, I wouldn't count the new ones) for a long time so that's the closest comparison to this. I think the RSX felt a bit more sporty (I didn't have the Type S), but as for power they're a pretty close match, and I bet the Mazda 3 would smoke it off the line with it's torque heavy engine. I think the RSX looked more sporty too, it had probably a more mature styling to it that I appreciate now even more than I did when I owned one, but I will say every time I look at my Mazda 3 I like it more and more. I've seen a thousand of these on the road and never had a strong opinion on them, but my girl in red keeps growing on me, and when I take the dog out for walks I circle the car and look it over and understand it more and more. I have a 2018 fully loaded GT, and the interior is mostly it's strongest positive. The facelifted w204 is easily the nicest looking interior I've ever been in, and the accord maybe the most comfortable, but this is incredibly close to the accord in terms of comfort and only lacking in slightly worse seats and less room. The seats are great though, but the 2012 accords were some of the best I've say in. The fake leather has a great balance of firm and give to it, and what's even better is the whole interior is wrapped in a similar nice synthetic material that's a joy to be wrapped in. I've never owned a car where my arms are supported on both sides in such a comfortable manner. I'm 6'1 so I keep my seat low but I feel like I have a good deal of room, in fact, I test drove a 2023 (gen 4) Mazda 3 that was an incredible price, about $800 off from my 2018 and even less miles but the new interior design is nowhere close to as good as what we get in the gen 3. You have almost no room to spread your legs out in the newer models and that's a deal breaker for me. The one major weakness of the 2018's interior is the tablet on top of the dash looks hideous. I think I mentioned earlier my model is fully loaded, and I mean it. But what's that mean, a premium sound system, some exterior trim pieces tacked on? Nope, here we have some genuinely cool features. Adaptive headlights that turn with the wheel, a heads up display that's projected on a piece of clear plastic that raises up when you start the engine and can show speed, road signs, blind spot info, next GPS heading, etc. We have automatic windshield wipers, adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, a great Bose sound system, paddle shifters. My car has more bells and whistles than my wife's high trim 2023 Tuscon. I really love my little Mazda, and I'm hoping to take it down some back roads to see if I can enjoy the driving part as much as some others do, as I've mostly spent time on the highway or in stop and go so far. This was a purchase I was unsure of 3 days ago when I made it, but every couple waking hours something pulls me to that car, whether to drive it or just to sit in it. I know now I've made a great choice.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Crystal Blue Mica
- Int. color
- Sand
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-41
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- M26082753T1
- VIN
- 3MZBM1U75GM321384
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Kenny Ross MazdaReviews
Kenny Ross Mazda review
I took my car to Kenny Ross Mazda, and dealt with Brian Boughtner, and he exceeded my expectations. He was kind, personable, knowledgeable,friendly. You know that he is the kind of person that makes you feel good being there!
2016 Mazda Mazda3 review
I bought the 2016 Mazda 3 with manual transmission brand new. Since then I've driven 280,000 miles through new York City traffic . I've just change my original clutch at 278000 . Most reliable car ever owned!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Soul Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-41
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- MP11009
- VIN
- JM1BM1U75E1143764
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Kenny Ross MazdaReviews
Kenny Ross Mazda review
Great customer service from start to finish. Kenny Ross followed up after the purchase to make sure I was satisfied.
2014 Mazda Mazda3 review
Have owned 2 Mazda 3 sedans. Purchased my 2014 brand new. It is hands down the best car for the money I have ever owned and I'm 66 years old. Will buy a Mazda anytime!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Oyster
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- P7036
- VIN
- 3MW89FF04P8D51784
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
South Park MitsubishiReviews
South Park Mitsubishi review
I was very happy with the purchase experience. Would recommend this dealership to family and friends or anyone looking to buy a new vehicle. Everyone was friendly and helpful from the minute I walked through the door until I drove my new Outlander off the lot.
2023 BMW 330 review
I really like this car. It's very responsive, fast, stable, great turning and traction on the road. I gave it all 5 stars but please know that I ordered it new with the features and interior that I wanted. I live in the North East, so I got the all-wheel-drive.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vermont Bronze Metallic
- Int. color
- Canberra Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- B19688A
- VIN
- WBA5R7C56KAJ80297
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bobby Rahal BMW of South HillsReviews
Bobby Rahal BMW of South Hills review
Great car buying experience.. Matt was awesome in helping us with our car purchase.. They went above and beyond to make sure everything was done and done right... highly recommend them..
2019 BMW 330 review
Not the kind of car I expected, but I have been more than happy with it. The 2019 330i xDrive has been safe, efficient, and makes you feel like you are flying in a Boeing 777 or an F-18. It is quieter, meaner, and comfortable for long trips. That being said, some maintenance costs are high, but if you keep it for long run and maintain it thoroughly, it will last long enough.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Satin White Pearl
- Int. color
- Dark Gray
- Drivetrain
- AWD
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- S261015349T1
- VIN
- 4S3BMCH61E3007049
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Kenny Ross SubaruReviews
Kenny Ross Subaru review
Johnny and Adam are THE BEST!!!! I bought my first Subaru Forrester there 10 years ago. But my experience today at was.....I have NO words to explain how awesome they both were. They were SO helpful with EVERYTHING. I hated to let my Forrester go, but it was time. 😟 Those are two of the greatest guys OMG.....They had us feeling relaxed. I have never had so much fun buying a car. Both Johnny and Adam had us laughing the whole time. And again, who laughs at a time when you HAVE to get another vehicle. I don't! But I did! Thank you so much Johnny and Adam! You guys ARE THE BESTEST! I will tell EVERYONE about our experience there and tell them "ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR!!!🤣🤣
2014 Subaru Legacy review
I love the AWD system. The car handles very well in snow. It handles really good no matter the road conditions. I've owned this car for 7 years and it's never left me stranded. Gets decent gas mileage. And it has great visibility. The 2014 Legacy 3.6R is overall my favorite car I've ever owned. If I had one thing I'd like to see improved, it would be to make a turbo or preferably a twin turbo version with like 450HP.
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$54,378
Est. $983/mo Bobby Rahal BMW of South Hills
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mineral White Metallic
- Int. color
- Espresso Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- BP10334
- VIN
- WBA53FJ0XTCW15198
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bobby Rahal BMW of South HillsReviews
Bobby Rahal BMW of South Hills review
Daria and Tim made the process of buying the vehicle I wanted and trading in 2 vehicles, a painless and simple process. I'd recommend this dealership to anyone.
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$50,386
Est. $911/mo #1 Cochran Cadillac Monroeville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Triple Nickel Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Ruby Red/Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 premium gasoline, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- 1302249
- VIN
- 2C3CDXGJ1PH572598
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
#1 Cochran Cadillac MonroevilleReviews
2023 Dodge Charger review
This is my second Charger and they’re very reliable. My first one drove me through the flood in Brooklyn some years back. The water was up to my hood. She didn’t let me down. That one was an AWD, the one I have now is a rear while drive SXT. I’m extremely satisfied. And great on gas. Thanks Dodge.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Soul Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- SKYACTIV-G 2.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 1226-A
- VIN
- 3MZBN1W36HM135605
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Citywide Auto SalesReviews
Citywide Auto Sales review
Great dealership. Great staff. I will definitely go back when it’s time for another car.
2017 Mazda Mazda3 review
Bought 2017 Mazda3 Touring 6 Speed Manual new. It now has 180k miles. Fun to drive, great on fuel, great handling (Way better than Toyota Corolla), more than enough technology including Android Auto & Apple Car Play, easy on maintenance, very reliable (More reliable than Toyota in my opinion)
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pewter
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- 1.8L I4
- Stock #
- 64K CERTIFIED MILES
- VIN
- 2T1BR32E75C368178
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
North Hills Auto MallReviews
North Hills Auto Mall review
Sales staff was very helpful, but looking at another truck on your lot Gonna try to come out next week
2005 Toyota Corolla review
An amazing car to own. Hassle-free and quite fun to drive. No bells and whistles that break like more contemporary styles. Beautiful green color on the outside and warm beige on the inside. Love the simplicity and reliability of this car year after year. The 2005 Corolla is an all around winner!
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$160,779
Est. $2,906/mo Maserati of Washington
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Selenite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Sienna Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 12-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.0L V12 36V MPFI SOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- PW0434
- VIN
- W1K6X7KB6PA213168
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Maserati of WashingtonReviews
Maserati of Washington review
Kurt was attentive, responsive and informative. I drove to the dealership from central PA on Saturday, test drove it and purchased my Lexus LS500 F Sport on the spot. Minimal paperwork. Thank you Kurt!
2023 Mercedes-Benz Maybach S 680 review
I bought a Mercedes-Maybach S 680 in 2024. First and foremost, this car offers absolutely fantastic performance and handling for a car that weighs 5,200 lbs. In my humble opinion this is due to the incredible twin-turbo V12 powertrain and perfect steering feel and well-tuned air-ride suspension that makes for a truly coddling ride. Calling the interior of this vehicle opulent is an understatement. It is a nicer place to be than my previous Bentley Mulsanne. And that is saying something... However, it offers nowhere near the amount of customizability that a Bentley would. This car is a true step above the regular S-class, and I know that because my friend has a 2023 S450 4mataic. I experienced a few brief mechanical issues; however the Mercedes team were fantastic at providing rapid support to ensure my vehicle was in top-notch condition. As for the price, $250,000+ later... What I liked: 1. lovely V12 engine 2. luxury no matter what seat you're in 3. rear seats feel like a first-class suite on a certain middle eastern airline What I didn't like 1. Bentley Flying Spur looks a lot more like luxury 2. doesn't hold its value like you might think 3. starts at over $240k! P.S. Please Mercedes, don't kill of the lovely V12 engine!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ultimate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Navy-London Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- A-V48437
- VIN
- SAJWJ1CD9D8V48437
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Perfect Auto CollectionReviews
Perfect Auto Collection review
Transaction went very smoothly . The top of the leather dashboard was coming apart on the passenger side. I scheduled an appointment with Eric and left the car in your care for the repair. I am Very disappointed with the repair. It looks like Stevey Wonder did the job ( he’s blind). I am searching for a company that can do the repair correctly.
2013 Jaguar XJ review
Bought a certified used XJ 3.0 AWD. Amazing ride. As smooth at 100 as it is at 40. Comfortable for long road trips, and nimble enough for downtown. Surprisingly fast acceleration... especially for the poor soul who want to try against it. This is the only car I've ever owned I plan to keep forever.