Used sedans for sale in Winter Park, FL
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Platinum Metallic Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Medium Light Stone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve
- Stock #
- HR114265
- VIN
- 3FA6P0HD3HR114265
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
AutoNation USA SanfordReviews
AutoNation USA Sanford review
I left with a great vehicle and a big smile. AutoNation USA Sanford exceeded my expectations, and I’d gladly come back or recommend them to anyone looking for a reliable ride.
2017 Ford Fusion review
The Ford Fusion SE FWD has proved itself to be a solid choice. It is reliable in stop-and-go traffic and is nimble enough to overtake other cars on highways. It is also quite comfortable, although the headrest is quite uncomfortably placed. The suspension absorbs most of the road's vibrations. When turned on at lower speeds, the motor can be louder than expected, but the transition between electric and ICE power is quite smooth. The design is aggressive, and it looks quite good. The car is also reliable, and parts aren't hard to find. The infotainment system, however, is not as sophisticated as expected, but not in a pleasant way. Overall, I would still recommend the car; it's practical, reliable, and nimble.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Empire State Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Lambda 3.8L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve co
- Stock #
- GU127748
- VIN
- KMHGN4JE9GU127748
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
AutoNation Toyota Winter ParkReviews
2016 Hyundai Genesis review
Great experience and fast service. The process was easy into my journey of owning a new car. The place is very clean and professional. I recommend this dealership.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.4L V8 32V Twin Turbocharged
- Stock #
- F55631
- VIN
- WBA7U2C04MCF55631
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gravity Autos JacksonvilleReviews
Gravity Autos Jacksonville review
Good trade-in offer and an easy process. Would have liked a few more color options in stock.
2021 BMW 750 review
Rates as best luxury car (several) i have ever owned and mist fun to drive. Comfort, convenience exciting drive. Beautifully appointed and a very smart looking car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.4L V8 32V Twin Turbocharged
- Stock #
- E59093
- VIN
- WBA7U2C04MCE59093
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Gravity Autos JacksonvilleReviews
Gravity Autos Jacksonville review
The extended warranty options were explained clearly, with no pressure to buy. I appreciated the honest breakdown of what was and wasn’t covered. I chose the one that fit my needs. Trustworthy and professional team.
2021 BMW 750 review
Very happy with this car. Ride and handling is exceptional. Included oil changes under warranty is appreciated. The seats are comfortable for both the driver and passengers.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- HiChroma Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control,
- Stock #
- Y013272A
- VIN
- KNAE55LC4J6012271
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Kia of LeesburgReviews
Kia of Leesburg review
William is so friendly and changed my part quick!! Very happy with this dealership! We will deal with them from now on! Keep it up!
2018 Kia Stinger review
Car is a 2018 Stinger GT2. Beautiful exterior. People stop and tell me how sharp the Stinger looks. Great fun to drive. Decent gas mileage (21 mpg around town & 28 mpg on the road). Michelin tires started to have pieces break of at 21000 miles even though lots of tread left. Very expensive.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magma Red
- Int. color
- Cappuccino
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 42-39
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine wi
- Stock #
- O623182
- VIN
- 3LN6L5LU4LR623182
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CDJR of LeesburgReviews
CDJR of Leesburg review
My service advisor Ryan was excellent in everything he explained to me and was very polite and will continue to use him,he called me on the status of my vehicle and to tell me it's ready
2020 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid review
Economical luxury sedan. Good looking, classic grille. Handles great for sedan, corners well, controlled ride that isn’t typical luxury barge floating, solid and reliable hybrid power train. Best comprise that isn’t a plug-in, all electric, boxy SUV, nor truck height.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Red/Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VTEC variable valve control, inte
- Stock #
- 3432799A
- VIN
- 19UUB6F55SA000009
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Villages SubaruReviews
Villages Subaru review
thrilled with my new Subaru!! Was very hesitant going in because we all know what shopping for a new car is like! This was different because of salesman Jason Hampton! Great job dealing with us and making us feel comfortable! You are the reason we bought a car from Bill Bryan!!
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$27,379
Est. $497/mo Gunther Volkswagen Volvo Cars Daytona Beach
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Canyon River Blue Metallic
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- U83866A
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F46SA004946
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Gunther Volkswagen Volvo Cars Daytona BeachReviews
Gunther Volkswagen Volvo Cars Daytona Beach review
Great experience very professional y and helpful.I definitely recommend other recommend other to this dealer location.
2025 Honda Accord review
Fantastic car. The adapt cruise and other safety features are incredible. The car is so safe its hard to notice all of the other features.
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$64,951
Est. $1,179/mo Villages Subaru
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- Ext. color
- Uyuni White
- Int. color
- Sevilla Red/Obsidian Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve cont
- Stock #
- I303792
- VIN
- KMTGG4SD5TU303792
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Villages SubaruReviews
Villages Subaru review
I was able to get into a new Crosstrek with the help of my salesman Jason Hampton. I was way over my lease miles and needed to make a change sooner rather than later. Love my new Subaru! Thank you!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 3.5L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve control
- Stock #
- R584814A
- VIN
- 1N4AA6FV3PC503317
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CDJR of LeesburgReviews
CDJR of Leesburg review
One thing I could say , they are very responsive. I wish I was able to make a deal if it wasn’t for my down payment amount I would taken that car so bad . I need it too .
2023 Nissan Maxima review
This is my 4th Maxima. I have the SR version and it has four things that I don’t like. The CVT, cheap paint, “too light” steering in corners and the harsh ride. The CVT is actually not bad but I prefer a true automatic or manual gear box for more spirited driving. I had my CVT fluid changed at the dealer at 23,000 miles, I’m gonna keep a schedule to change it every 20,000 miles or two years to be on the safe side. The paint job is probably the cheapest quality paint I’ve ever seen on a car. It scratches easily and I’m sure with the Vegas heat, it will probably be prone to fade in 3 years so I got it treated to prevent that from happening. The steering is fine in straight driving and changing lanes but when you hit a curve, it feels so light that it’s like being disconnected from the road. This is the first car I’ve ever had that felt that way. Lastly is the harsh ride. I like a vehicle that has a firm but composed ride. It’s composed but too firm. I think I’m gonna buy some Continentals, the rubber is softer than what I have now. I bought this car as a collector item I want to fix up that I drive only a few times because they don’t make them anymore. It’s a nice ride but Nissan should have let it go out in style. They should have made it all wheel drive and a 9 speed automatic. I may look into getting it converted but it’s gonna cost a lot to do it. It’s a very nice car, gets good gas mileage and is trouble free so far. Nissan should have kept it around and just updated it.
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$58,395
Est. $1,060/mo Huston Cadillac
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Graphite Gray
- Int. color
- Exclusive Carmine Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.0L V8 32V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- 407465A
- VIN
- W1K6G7GB6NA140647
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Huston CadillacReviews
2022 Mercedes-Benz S-Class review
MBZ S-class always 5 ***** vehicle. The most luxurious , comfortable, car I ever drove . I highly recommend it . My old Mercedes S-class has 200,000 miles and not a single problem.
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$19,476
Est. $354/mo Daytona Mazda
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snowflake White Pearl
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 7162
- VIN
- 3MZBPADL7LM136557
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Daytona MazdaReviews
Daytona Mazda review
Always excellent service from Daytona Mazda over many years for my 6 Miatas. From the ease of making an appointment, to the time you drive your car away after a new purchase, or having maintenance performed, the entire process is smooth and professional.
2020 Mazda Mazda3 review
This is no luxury car but if you are looking for a smaller car with great reliabilty and lower maintenance costs this is a great option. I am a petite female and the car is quite comfortable for me. I drive 18 miles one way into Minneapolis and the ride is enjoyable enough. This is my 2nd Mazda 3, ironically same color as my previous only because of availabilty. This model year all wheel drive was available and served me well in our Minnesota winters. Standard safety features are appreciated. I don't need all the bells and whistles but I do like connecting my phone to my car.
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$28,467
New 2027 Toyota Corolla SE 
$28,467
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$37,403
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$38,113
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$28,445
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$28,445
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$27,138
New 2027 Nissan Sentra SR 
$29,420
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- H21505A
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F46SA000668
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jenkins Honda of LeesburgReviews
Jenkins Honda of Leesburg review
I have bought two cars from Robert Brown. He is the best, experience, knowledgably, patience, very customer oriented, and after training sales people for many years, I know the difference. If needed I would buy a third car from Robert. Very courteous and friendly staff at Jenkins of Leesburg. Buy your next car there and be a satisfied customer as I am.
2025 Honda Accord review
El vendedor es excelente - la atención de Adam Khadra fue la mejor . Thanks The vendor Adam Khadra is the best in the customer service
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Uyuni White
- Int. color
- Obsidian Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- U129813
- VIN
- KMTG34TA7PU129813
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Kia of LeesburgReviews
Kia of Leesburg review
Exceptional service and courteous staff. May I mention Alan Woodyard, Mario, Serhan, Pepper and RJ. I have been a customer since 2020 for servicing of my Kia Soul and recently I purchased a newer Kia Soul. The standards at this dealership are high and customer service exceptional. Thank you!!
2023 Genesis G70 review
Car is fun to drive, great mileage, nice performance, comfortable on the highway. Only negative is the smaller trunk but since both back seats fold down it is ok as there are only two of us in the family. This is my second genesis and they are great cars.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sublime Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- L39726A
- VIN
- 2C3CDXCT4PH703742
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jenkins Hyundai of LeesburgReviews
Jenkins Hyundai of Leesburg review
We are no-nonsense, straight up kind of people and car shopping is our least favorite thing to do in the world. However, this was a much different experience. They had a good selection of cars and had the trim and color we wanted. We live 3 hours away and working with John in internet sales was very easy. No pushy sales or pressure; and the no haggle pricing was easy to understand and saved us money as compared to the dealers in my city. Estimating our trade in value was also easy despite the long distance. We could not tell from the website some details about the car, but John and Tabitha took photos and emailed them to us- went the extra mile. Once there, our car was ready for pick up; we got the "tour" from John, completed the required paperwork and we were out the door. A very pleasant car buying experience.
2023 Dodge Charger review
I have had several Chargers over a lot of years, and this is the best! It is just so stupid that Dodge quit making one of their best selling cars.
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$15,928
Est. $289/mo Posner Park Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat
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- Ext. color
- Granite
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- F508344A
- VIN
- 2C3CDXHG1GH333278
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Posner Park Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram FiatReviews
Posner Park Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat review
Update from last review called back from the service manager very helpful going to get the car fixed right excellent customer service highly recommended
2016 Dodge Charger review
If you are wanting a reliable car, that drives smooth, this is the car for you! Hands down the best car I have ever owned! I have a 2016 SXT Rear Wheel drive with the 3.6L V6 engine. I am the original owner and still till today I have the car. From mileage of 0-135,000, I have only had to have the oil changed, tires rotated, and of course brakes. At 135,000 miles I had my first major repair which was the passenger side lifters, cam shaft and Rods replaced. Now currently at 140,000 my drive shaft. But overall, this car has been hands down the best I have ever owned. The only thing that I am disappointed with is that Chargers are known for the door panels to peel away, and yet Dodge still has not put in a recall on this matter. Wake up Dodge put the recall in on the door panels pulling away, because honestly the glue you all used back then is not living up to its potential.
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