Used SUVs for sale near Saint Johns, MI
-
$24,534
Est. $443/mo LaFontaine Mitsubishi Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 26LM027A
- VIN
- JA4J3UA87PZ021337
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LaFontaine Mitsubishi LansingReviews
2023 Mitsubishi Outlander review
2023 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL BLACK EDITION. I bought mines brand new on Nov 2022. So far it had a recall for firmware update. As of now. Almost 15 k miles and no issues. I love all the features and was told ot doesn't have the issues its predecessor had. Mitsubishi invested millions in the 2023 models so hopefully I can get 200k or more miles out of it.
-
$23,779
Est. $430/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6OS222S
- VIN
- 2T2BZMCA6KC189767
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
2019 Lexus RX 350 review
This is my second RX and I’m so happy with the first, I need to get one again. The size is right for a woman, not to high nor low. Perfect for young and the old. I would have opted for the 2021 model if I’m not retired. The salesperson gave us a great deal we can’t refuse. This car will definitely take me to many places in style, comfort and value.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Light Stone Metallic
- Int. color
- Cocoa/Light Ash Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- NZ173965
- VIN
- 1GKKNRL4XNZ173965
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Morrie's Okemos FordReviews
Morrie's Okemos Ford review
This is the best dealership and they have fabulous customer service! Morrie’s will always have my business in the future!
2022 GMC Acadia review
I love my Acadia Denali. It is fully loaded with anything you can think of.I love the V6 engine and how smooth it drives and rides
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ultimate Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Regular Unleaded I-4 2.5 L/152
- Stock #
- P16523
- VIN
- 5NMP2DGL2SH097091
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Sawyers ChevroletReviews
Sawyers Chevrolet review
Greg was great to work with. We had picked out the car we wanted, drove it for a test drive, and put down a deposit. There was a chip in the windshield that was repaired before it was picked up. The 2nd key was not found at signing, but he located it the following day.
2025 Hyundai SANTA FE review
I bought this car because of the deal that Hyundai provided. I didn't test drive the car till after I purchased it. It is a very pleasant surprise, as it is better than I expected. I like the appearance and the comfort, plus it's great for grandkids with the third row. The gas mileage is very good as well. Highly recommend this vehicle.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Carbonized Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- F250011A
- VIN
- 1FMCU9GNXPUA04059
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Alma FordReviews
2023 Ford Escape review
Good on gas and a comfortable ride. Drive it to West Virginia and back home no problem. I like it a lot definitely recommend it for people who travel for work and schoool
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- EcoTec3 6.2L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve contr
- Stock #
- XG37901
- VIN
- 1GNSKCKJ2JR322296
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Sundance GMCReviews
Sundance GMC review
I had a great experience with Angela..she has great knowledge and understanding of the automotive sales. Highly recommend this dealership. It is great that they are open and available on weekends.
2018 Chevrolet Tahoe review
Owned a 2018 Chevy Tahoe premier for about a year got it at 68k miles currently at 91k planning to keep this car forever have been keeping up with the maintenance replaced the heater hoses, magna ride struts in the front no major major issues with the Tahoe so far love it
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6F0220P
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J92RBA96198
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
LaFontaine Ford LansingReviews
LaFontaine Ford Lansing review
Carson did a great job at selling me the exact vehicle I wanted. I appreciate all the effort that went into the process, I would highly recommend them to anyone that is interested in purchasing a vehicle!
2024 Ford Edge review
7 Ford Edges and the 2024 is rock solid yet quiet and great performance. Everyone wants to use the Edge when we go anywhere. The controls are easy to use for non distracted driving. Long road trips are un eventful and tires last forever. Loading space in the rear is flat easy and lots of space. Good visibility and safe.
-
$22,567
Est. $408/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6OS252E
- VIN
- 3GKALMEGXRL358283
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
2024 GMC Terrain review
One of the most attractive looking t cars GMC has ever designed. Looks just like a Lexus. Extremely roomy. Love every aspect of my Terrain.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Star White Metallic Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Deep Cypress
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- P9069
- VIN
- 1FMSK8JHXNGB15513
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Alma FordReviews
2022 Ford Explorer review
I purchased the 2022 Timberline preowned about 1 month ago with appx 50k miles on it. I was disappointed that it does not have memory seats or a garage door remote button. (I didn't even notice this when test driving it). Who makes a car today with all the tech this car has and leaves off these 2 things! The interior is comfortable & well laid out. The ride is smooth & quiet. 2.3L turbo 4 cylinder is quiet & has amazing power. At idle it’s hard to tell that the engine is even running. The prior owner put on Michelin tires which contribute to the smooth, quiet ride. The seats are ActiveX (Ford’s name for vinyl) with cloth inserts. I’m 5’ 10” and 175lbs. My son who rode with me is 6’ 3” and 250lbs. Both of us found the seats comfortable & supportive on our 1st road trip. I’ve driven a Kia Telluride, which is a direct competitor. The Kia has a little more tech but I found the ride to be on the harsh side, especially in the second row. This may be attributable to the low profile 21” tires. The Timberline has 18” balloon tires which I much prefer. 2 weeks after purchasing it I made a 2,200-mile road trip from Dallas TX to Orgon. Fuel mileage ranged from 21 to 28 with an overall average of 24 mpg. *if I don’t drive over 70 mph on the highway the fuel economy goes up to about 32! *these numbers are from the actual miles & gallons of fuel used, not from the dash numbers, which I found are a little optimistic. It has a few bugs that I’ll have to deal with, but it’s a used Ford & not a Lexus. Overall, I'd say I'm very happy with this car & would recommend it.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- CU1845
- VIN
- 3GKALPEV3NL104585
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Young Ionia GMReviews
Young Ionia GM review
Car service repairs were excellent however since taking over Berger?s their customer service from the Service department hasn?t been that great; I constantly have to call for updates
2022 GMC Terrain review
Absolutely LOVE this car is one of my favorites by far. Midsize SUV with all the features of a full size luxury vehicle. Can’t beat the heated seats, power lift gate, and the amazing panoramic sunroof they added on these models. Will continue to buy this model for years to come highly recommend an affordable and practical vehicle!
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- C26331B
- VIN
- 3GNKBHRS4LS611420
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Young Ionia GMReviews
Young Ionia GM review
Very welcoming upon entering the service area, greeted me by name and quickly addressed my car needs!
2020 Chevrolet Blazer review
This SUV is solid in almost every way, but if I had to have any complaints I would say: *The design isn't really original, or even "Blazerish". Do I really care? No, but it's just kind of the reality that it doesn't look a lot different than the Equinox, Traverse, and many other vehicles by other manufacturers. Anyway just saying that they could have tried a little harder to have a signature defining figure to separate from everyone else. *The other complaint is that it doesn't have a CD player. Like who decided to save $100, and not put one in? Some Gen Z kid? Again, I see that a lot of cars are this way, but it's just being forced on us by this young crop of kids...At the very minimum take a survey to see who would elect to have one put in, or elect to have one not put in...people are just going with it
-
$19,404
Est. $351/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 6L5320N
- VIN
- 3C4NJCBBXNT234952
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2022 Jeep Compass review
Bought this 2022 Compass Trail Hawk new for my wife. Earlier this year (2025) we landed a sweetheart deal on a new 2024 Wrangler Sport S. Guess who inherited the Compass ? I stepped down from a Grand Cherokee but I have no regrets. It has had a few electrical teething issues but all have been resolved and have not come back. The handling and fuel economy are much better than the Grand Cherokee. There are only 2 downsides..........the size of the gas tank (13.5 gal vs 24.5) and the cargo space behind the 2nd row seats. I have easily adapted to both ! I want to give a shout-out to our local dealership, Tri-City CDJR. Start to finish, an excellent place to purchase and maintain our Jeeps. BRAVO ZULU !
-
$43,105
New 2026 Mazda CX-50 2.5 Turbo Meridian Edition 
$46,796
New 2026 Ford Bronco Big Bend 
$46,592
New 2026 Ford Explorer Active 
$72,104
New 2026 Lexus RX 350h Luxury 
$40,435
New 2026 Mazda CX-50 Hybrid Premium 
$34,355
New 2026 Mazda CX-50 2.5 S Preferred Package 
$98,415
New 2026 Mercedes-Benz GLS 450 4MATIC 
$56,970
New 2026 Lexus RZ 450e Premium 
$46,782
New 2026 Ford Bronco Big Bend 
$46,163
New 2026 Ford Bronco Big Bend 
$45,141
New 2025 Ford Bronco Big Bend 
$43,012
New 2025 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Hot
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas V6 3.6L/
- Stock #
- P16646
- VIN
- 3GNKBJRS0PS221587
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sawyers ChevroletReviews
Sawyers Chevrolet review
Every one was nice explaining everything. My truck and finances rate. Warranty coverage. If I had any questions I can call.
2023 Chevrolet Blazer review
I went in to get a 2026 Equinox and came out of the dealership with this beautiful, sexy, hunk of a vehicle. I love how it handles, how it looks, and all of the gadgets. I just passed down my 2018 Chevrolet Cruze Hatchback Premier, and I was still learning the things that vehicle had, so I probably will never completely learn everything on this baby. I am a Chevy Woman for life!
-
$19,794
Est. $358/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.3L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6OS155H
- VIN
- KL79MPSL6SB176678
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
2025 Chevrolet Trailblazer review
Loving my new Trailblazer. Handles great, gas mileage is terrific. Highly recommend. Very good value. It has all the features I wanted and more. Very pleased.
-
$18,104
Est. $327/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tank Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 26L0787W
- VIN
- 1C4BJWEG0FL611510
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited review
I've added aftermarket exhaust and a computer chip and the roar pedal also KNN air filter and bigger tires 35 so far it is a lot of fun to drive
-
$9,804
Est. $177/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tungsten Metallic
- Int. color
- Dark Titanium / Light Titanium
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6L5295W
- VIN
- 1GNKRFKD9HJ323302
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2017 Chevrolet Traverse review
I love my new car. It rides smooth and has lots of room. It is very clean and is everything I was looking for. It even came with a remote start
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Rosewood Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony With Ebony Interior Accents
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.3L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- CU1809
- VIN
- KL4MMCSL8PB104050
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Young Ionia GMReviews
Young Ionia GM review
Had my vehicle serviced with oil change and tire rotation. Everything was explained well and I was told of future services needed.
2023 Buick Encore GX review
I know that here in Northern California, Buick isn't a very popular brand, but that means I was able to get a stunningly good deal on my new '23. I traded up from a low mileage '18 Buick Encore (not GX), and at the time of the transaction, it had a remarkable trade value. My dealer did a outstanding job on pre-sale prep and delivery. My sales rep answered my every question. I enjoyed the prior vehicle, and feel this new one will give me the same kind of driving experience. My added safety feature is the front accident/pedestrian avoidance and lane keep assist. I haven't had to use either yet, but feel good about having them aboard. This Buick strikes me as a hidden gem, full featured but still available at a price point that blows the other comparable Asian built imports out of the water.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.2L V-6 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 271HP
- Stock #
- GC37882
- VIN
- 1C4PJMCS9GW290407
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sundance GMCReviews
Sundance GMC review
Top quality service and a great serviceman at the desk, thank you for taking care of my car!I had new tires plus a part
2016 Jeep Cherokee review
Was at dealership shopping and this new Jeep Cherokee Lattitude came in on transport. Wanted it the minute I saw it. Jeep dealership had ordered it custom with every option I wanted. Blackout package, V6 a true dual exhaust, sport, power everthing, 4x4 etc. The 4x4 is excellent and never failed me! Its been flawless, aftermarket tuning has turned it into a screaming black speed machine. 112,000 miles so far. No issues with anything! Would buy another if they still made this Cherokee Latitude Special! One very satisfied customer!!!
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- SJ37784
- VIN
- 3GKALTEG6RL109201
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sundance GMCReviews
Sundance GMC review
the friendly sales staff made the process easy and timely , the salesman even came in on his day off to meet our schedule
2024 GMC Terrain review
I always bought the GMC Acadia (4 times) but decided to try the terrain. I absolutely love it and it's a great car for zipping around in town. I would take it for a weekend trip but not on a long trip as it doesn't have a lot of cab room, but for two people it is fine
-
$18,822
Est. $340/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6OS293E
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J91NBA39713
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos review
We had great service with Micheal. He helped us with two cars in a week.
2022 Ford Edge review
I purchased the titanium awd edge which came with 20 inch wheels and the ride was a bit rough. I had a 2016 with 18 inch wheels and it was very smooth. I found a set of 18 inch original ford wheels, purchased new tires and now it rides like a dream. It´s quiet, handles well, the interior is a bit dated, but has all the tech and safety I need. I compared the X3 and Q5, but the Edge had a lower price and was loaded. Not a single problem since I bought it, just regular service and one recall that was fixed while I waited at the dealer. I highly recommend it.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Dark Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine wi
- Stock #
- XG37966
- VIN
- 1C4NJPFA1FD413817
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sundance GMCReviews
Sundance GMC review
Excellent service and the sales person provided a great service and attention
2015 Jeep Patriot review
Off the lot, amazing! I call it Dino.. because it’s eco green and it has an antenna! I have purchased a few vehicles off the lot. Dino is cool. Well I did like my Chevy S10- bench seat, was the best I ever bought off the lot! Jeep Patriot 2015 an amazing vehicle as well!
-
$21,642
Est. $391/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.2L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6L5389A
- VIN
- KL77LKE26RC098133
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
I love my Chevy Trax I bought it in 2023 its a 2024 it drives good get awesome gas mileage drove from Oregon to Oklahoma and back and one more time to Oklahoma no brake dows yes its lower to the crowd but for me its perfect to get in and out It has a lot of room in back seat and back of car for shopping It only hat one problem the Moniterscreen whent out but the Recall fixt it
-
$8,704
Est. $157/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6L5427V
- VIN
- 2GNALBEK6E6306157
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2014 Chevrolet Equinox review
My 2014 Equinox LTZ has over 200,000 miles on it. Been the most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned including a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Will buy Equinox again.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6F0240P
- VIN
- 3GNAXHEG6TL286696
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Ford LansingReviews
LaFontaine Ford Lansing review
My oil light was not looking good and my appointment was days away so they were able to get me in early to prevent any issues with my truck!!
2026 Chevrolet Equinox review
The Equinox is a nice SUV, that can be fully loaded and still not break the bank. My Equinox has full power, A/C & heated seats, sunroof with a fully, customizable, large display panel. The rear seats are also heated and comfortable to ride in with plenty of room. The heated steering wheel wraps up the luxury. The engine is a little anemic with a 1.5l turbo and FWD with the CVT transmission. With one person, it is okay, but as you add people, the engine bogs down. However, the mpg whether loaded or not are fantastic with my average of 26mpg consistently. The ride is very comfortable and it competes with many luxury brands for comfort and ride. The design and sleek front end make it a very attractive drive. I would say that if you are looking for a fully appointed vehicle in the crossover size SUVs that won’t break the bank, check out the Equinox. Whether a daily driver, a small family or traveling, this platform provides high comfort and good quality that competes in this marketplace.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Radiance Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Cashmere
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- RJ808614
- VIN
- 5LMPJ9JA9RJ808614
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Morrie's Okemos FordReviews
Morrie's Okemos Ford review
The sales staff is excellent the service department also. They are professional and courteous to work with.
2024 Lincoln Nautilus review
The car is a wonderful step forward for the Lincoln brand. The screen is the perfect blend of capability without distraction. Ignore the reviews about bad dealerships as it's about the car and not bad sales people. It's sylish, capable and comfortable!
-
$19,804
Est. $358/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6OS156A
- VIN
- 1GNEVKKW2KJ111996
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
2019 Chevrolet Traverse review
I recently purchased my Traverse. I love it! It all the features I wanted. Comfortable especially on my lower back, the ride is so smooth it didn't feel like I was driving and roomy great SUV for a large family
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ocean Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Pebble Gray w/Ebony & Whisper Beige Stitching
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- CP3045
- VIN
- KL47LCE26RB166634
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Shaheen CadillacReviews
Shaheen Cadillac review
Although there were many challenges during the lease process, I was incredibly grateful for how kindly and proactively you helped me secure the vehicle. I was also thoroughly impressed by the upscale and pristine facilities at Shane Cadillac. But the absolute highlight was my dealer—Larry!
2024 Buick Envista review
Working on 2 years now with my new Buick, looking at this vehicle from the outside you really feel like you’re looking at an expensive car, the inside of the car is nicely done for the price point. First model year for the Envista. You have to expect some issues., I had my car in twice to have the radio reprogrammed or updated whichever you wanna call it. I’ve had the sunroof motor replaced as that has worn out. I haven’t had any other issues with the vehicle, the ride is great. It’s fairly quiet, it gets great gas mileage and it totally suits my need as far as space , comfort, and appearance. There are just a couple of things that I would change about this vehicle if I could. First, I would upgrade the sound system to something better, the sound system is pretty good but I bought the Avenir and one would think that model should’ve had a premium sound system. Express up windows could’ve been added, not just expressed down. The car could’ve used some additional sound deadening material. Buick are known for being quiet vehicles, I think the additional sound deadening and also maybe an 18 inch wheel in the satin nickel finish would’ve been nice. I have the 19 inch wheels and I think the 18 inch would’ve given it a better ride but it’s still pretty decent. The car is quiet however it is not that Buick quiet that I’ve had before in other Buicks. Would I buy this car again, probably not but not because there’s anything wrong with it, just because I would probably want to change. I’m at retirement age so I did buy this vehicle knowing I’m going to keep it probably as my last vehicle. Is it a nice vehicle absolutely, is it worth the money? Absolutely, should you buy one of these that’s entirely up to you after a test driving it, but I don’t think you would be disappointed as long as you understand what you’re paying for. You are not spending 40 to 50,000 on a vehicle buying this car and you’re getting something that looks definitely like it could be worth 40,000.
-
$31,780
Est. $574/mo Morrie's Okemos Ford
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl White Tricoat
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- RC115902
- VIN
- 5N1AZ2DS9RC115902
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Morrie's Okemos FordReviews
Morrie's Okemos Ford review
The staff at Morries is always attentive to your needs, they have always found the right vehicle for me. I live locally and glad I can come here without any hesitation for sales and servicing my vehicles.
2024 Nissan Murano review
We just traded our 2020 for a 2024 Murano. We particularly like the exterior looks, design and chrome. Interior is stylish, comfortable and functional. Our 2020 did not require anything other than oil changes and tire rotation. Murano is the only model we have bought twice. Crown Nissan is a fantastic dealership. Our Sales Consultant was Cathy Voogd, best buying experience ever.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ocean Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony w/Santorini Blue Stitching
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 26T014A
- VIN
- KL47LBE22RB038885
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sundance GMCReviews
Sundance GMC review
Jim Yanna is a class act. Easy to work with, and goes the extra mile.
2024 Buick Envista review
The reason why I am writing this is because I know the mileage is off because there is no way I can drive 100 miles in the city in one day it's not possible. This is a complaint for me because I feel it needs to be looked at.
-
$19,804
Est. $358/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.3L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6L5263HE
- VIN
- KL79MPSLXSB188008
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
2025 Chevrolet Trailblazer review
I am TOTALLY pleased with purchase of my Trailblazer RS It rides beautifully/gets great mileage/has a very nice interior and a larger screen I actually was thinking more about an Equinox, however, I have a close friend who also recently purchased a Trailblazer She is also very pleased with her purchase
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Atomic Silver
- Int. color
- BROWN
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V-8 DOHC, VVT-i variable valve control, premium unleaded, e
- Stock #
- Y5991
- VIN
- JTJHY7AX4K4293989
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
XYZ MotorsReviews
XYZ Motors review
James was great at getting me into the truck I wanted. Told me about vehicle and let me take it out for test drive. Friendly but not pushy. Was able to work out a trade for my old car. Would highly recommend!
2019 Lexus LX 570 review
When I started thinking of a new vehicle, the LX 570 was my 1st thought. I drove a Lincoln Navigator for a week to test, and loved it. I looked at the BMW X7, the Range Rover, Mercedes GLS 450, Infiniti QX80, and the Cadillac Escalade. I hadn’t driven an LX or Land Cruiser in many years. I had 99% decided on the Navigator, but decided to go test drive the LX570. While the LX570 is smaller than the Navigator... after I completed the test drive I knew the LX570 was the winner. Its not as fast or powerful (horsepower wise), but in Sport mode it moves quickly. I have had my LX570 for 2 months now... and I absolutely love it. I hope that in the next 3 years that Lexus will release the LX as a fully electric vehicle.
-
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Indus Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 2759A
- VIN
- SALAG2V65GA833976
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Autos of ChicagoReviews
Autos of Chicago review
Rich provided exceptional service and made the whole process feel simple. He was knowledgeable, professional, and very easy to work with. The car was clean, reliable, and exactly as described online. I truly appreciated the smooth process and excellent customer care from Autos Of Chicago.
2016 Land Rover LR4 review
Good car the ride is great not perfect had a few things go bad but was covered under dealer warranty its a 2016 lr4 hse..love this suv. Yes it eats lots of gas and tires. The air suspension is great...it's very fast..I love the heavy feel when u driving it..it's like a tank... just the dealership mechanics not that good and the service guy trying to sell u any service if u let them very pushy...u can get work done at other rover places. And oil changes at jiffy lube if they have the tools...just avoid the dealership unless u have to go and have any warranty that's best best way to go if not it will cost u 1 to 2 thousand every time t breaks down...