Toyota 4Runner classic cars for sale near me
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$12,098
Est. $228/mo Corwin Toyota Colorado Springs
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Imperial Jade Mica
- Int. color
- Oak
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 3284697
- VIN
- JT3HN86R1Y0284697
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
Dealer
Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsReviews
Corwin Toyota Colorado Springs review
I want to thank Corwin Toyota and James Johring in sales. I have a very crazy schedule and Jim worked within the confines of my schedule to accommodate me. Between a test drive, and finance I was finished in about an hour. This level of personal service is rarely seen these days, so thank you!
2000 Toyota 4Runner review
First, this model is very appealing, I think it's the best look. Second, it was cheap to keep. Even an engine overhaul was cheaper than a car payment. It's my daily driver as well as my camp vehicle and "let's run out to the lake for a night" vehicle. The interior has been super durable. Everything cleans up like new and for the driver seat to have only a small amount of wear after this many miles is a tribute to the maker. Plus, it's a manual, the most fun vehicle ever. Now that it's been overhauled, my mechanic says it's good for at least another hundred thousand. Its ac has always been cold, its power windows have always worked, it's been all around a great vehicle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 54274
- VIN
- JT3HN86R519054274
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ultimate AutosReviews
2001 Toyota 4Runner review
Hello I bought this car new, it has olmos 200 thousand miles, and is the best SUV I ever Owed it drives like tanks, and the only major expense was , the timing belt any thing else just regular maintenance
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3GN86R110189736
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Reviews
2001 Toyota 4Runner review
The 2001 Toyota 4Runner is a great mid-size SUV. This SUV is great on and off road and is super reliable. My 4Runner is 17 years old with 225,000 miles. I purchased 8 years ago with 145,000 miles. I've really only had to change oil, brakes, tires and shocks. Largest repair so far were catalytic converters. There are two.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3HN86R5Y0303929
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Reviews
2000 Toyota 4Runner review
My first 4runner was a 2000. Over 100k miles on it when I purchased it used in 2005 and I fell in love! In 2018 I traded it in for a used 2005 model. 150k miles on the speedometer - just broken in. My son totalled it 2 weeks ago. Guess what I'm looking for?: my third 4runner
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gold
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L I-4 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 150HP
- Stock #
- 000615
- VIN
- JT3GM84R7Y0054728
Features
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
Dealer
Motion MotorsReviews
Motion Motors review
Efficient service, smooth transaction. Car was as described and they reupholstered a seat in the car at no cost so that was nice!
2000 Toyota 4Runner review
I have a Limited with every option...304k miles ,it still looks and drives like new...air ,windows .sunroof all still work perfect...I just changed the original alternator at 287K miles....will never part with it and would drive it cross country today..
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 163350
- VIN
- JT3GN86R0Y0163350
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
Dealer
Crypto Autos of TXReviews
Crypto Autos of TX review
Crypto Autos called me about the vehicle I am interested in and we talked for a while. The price they had on the car was too high so I an continuing to look for a Mustang convertible.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Beige
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3HN86R2V0068272
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
Reviews
1997 Toyota 4Runner review
I drive this car from San Diego to Los Angeles a lot !!! MPG is okay and I feel safe in this SUV. Been driving in good and bad weather and I have had no problems what so ever. My biggest cost was only buying new tires or getting alignment which only happened only maybe twice.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 777
- VIN
- JT3HN86RXX0258016
Dealer
Daddys Auto Sales LLCReviews
1999 Toyota 4Runner review
I own a 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4WD with 368,000 miles on it and still going strong. I bought it with only 24,000 miles on it. Extremely reliable and best vehicle ever owned. Very happy with this model.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3HN86RXY0292278
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
Reviews
2000 Toyota 4Runner review
This truck has been great to me. It hasn't let me down and is bulletproof. Yeah its 20 years old and has 300 thousand miles on it so it needs maintenance, but that was expected. Overall however, theres no other vehicle you could expect this kind of versatility and consistency from.
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$48,998
Est. $923/mo Quality Auto Center of Lynnwood
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Oak
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 227392
- VIN
- JT3HN86R4X0227392
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
Quality Auto Center of LynnwoodReviews
Quality Auto Center of Lynnwood review
Diana, Shadi and Christian made the car buying process a breeze! I was able to buy, finance and drive away in a matter of a few days. The vehicle exceeded my online expectations! I was from out of state and they made it easy!
1999 Toyota 4Runner review
Still own my SR5 4WD today and have never been stranded. I’m on the original set of brakes at 161,000 miles and the 3.4L V6 runs just as strong as it did the day we drove it off the lot. Mine is a standard 5-speed that absolutely kills it in the snow. Probably going to pass it down to my son if he wants it. It’s the only new car I’ve ever bought and probably the last.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3GN86R5Y0157348
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
Reviews
2000 Toyota 4Runner review
The 4Runner was a great car and lasted up to 218k. Did had a couple issues here and there, but other than that, it had never let me down.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3HN87R5Y0294924
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- LED Headlights
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steller Blue Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- AK336
- VIN
- JT3HN86R6W0158865
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Alpine MotorsReviews
1998 Toyota 4Runner review
I have gone everywhere in Florida with my 98 4runner. This truck will get you thru all types of trails. Parts are very accesible and is an easy to repair. I have done almost all repairs in my own house just watching YouTube. Very fun and cool truck
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Oak
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 8392
- VIN
- JT3GN87R4X0115573
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Roseville Auto SalesReviews
Roseville Auto Sales review
Been buying car here since the 90s father Matt now son Matt never had a issue u really cant get a cheaper quality used vehicle anymore so I recommend these folks all day.
1999 Toyota 4Runner review
I own a 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR-5 AWD V6. It currently has 268K miles. The engine and transmission runs perfectly just as it was 23 years ago. These trucks will run forever if you do the basic maintenance like changing the oil every 3 to 5K miles ( I tend to change it every 3.5K miles), replace the plugs every 80K miles, replace the timing belt every 100K miles etc. The first 16 years of ownership besides basic maintenance including replacing the brake pads and tires, I absolutely didn't have any issues with the car. These last 6 to 7 years I had 2 major issues, one is the fuel injection which cost about $900 and the brake system which cost $1,800. I don't drive the car anymore on long distance trips but I'm sure if I have too it's still more than capable. The car is so reliable that I look forward to driving it well over 300K miles. One last thing, here in California I still see many 3rd generation 4Runners still on the road. Definitely there are a lot more 3rd generation than the 4th generation model. The last 3rd generation 4 Runner came out in 2002. How many other car brands can make this claim? This speaks volumes on the Toyota 4 Runner's durability and reliability.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gold
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 183.0HP 3.4L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JT3HN86R0W0167559
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Reviews
1998 Toyota 4Runner review
I purchased this SUV new in 1998 from a Toyota dealer in AZ and would have been happy if I got 5 years use from it. The vehicle is now 24 years old and with 175K miles, it just keeps going. That's only 7000 miles/year, but it's by far the most dependable vehicle I have ever owned. Instead of getting a replacement for it, I decided to keep it maintained to see if I can get another 5 years / 40K miles from it. Best and most dependable Toyota ever.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.7L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- A004313
- VIN
- JT3HM84R5V0022179
Dealer
AUTOSOURCE HawaiiReviews
AUTOSOURCE Hawaii review
They have the best service, workers are very nice, clean place and I recommend my friends to go to autosource
1997 Toyota 4Runner review
I've owned this car for over 100,000 miles as the third owner and it has never let me down. 4wd driveline intact after countless trips off-roading, handles well when towing and makes long treks comfortable and effortless.
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Not Priced
Est. $0/mo Lou Dominion's Deals on Wheels-Benton Harbor
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Not Specified
- Int. color
- Oak
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- 24511A
- VIN
- JT3HN87R9V0115344
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Lou Dominion's Deals on Wheels-Benton HarborReviews
Lou Dominion's Deals on Wheels-Benton Harbor review
I drove by here on my to another dealer. I didn't realize the dealership was there (not from the area originally) and I turned around to see what they had. There was no haggling, no debating, no arguing, no lying, no cheating, no stealing-all things you can expect at some dealers. These guys were all top notch individuals who I could hang out with all day every day. I felt a bond with Mitzy, the dog who kept trying to untie my shoes. Maybe she was persuading me to stay and buy a car? That's exactly what I did. I bought a three-year-old Jeep at a good price with a good interest rate. I wasn't expecting to actually buy a car there, let alone finance one, but I did and my wife is thrilled with her new Jeep. I highly recommend Lou Dominion's Deals On Wheels Benton Harbor location. If his two other locations are anything like this one, you won't go wrong at any of them. I also highly recommend Phil the salesman. He's the real deal, a genuine, honest to goodness human being. No games from this guy and I respect that entirely. If you've read this far, you know I'm pretty satisfied with everything. I am. Best car buying experience I've ever had and I will go there first when I buy my next car!
1997 Toyota 4Runner review
my 4 runner has 690000 KM on it and still going strong. never had a major problem with it just do routine maintenance on it. the 4x4 is amazing I have put it in holes that most ATV wouldn't come out of and with the diff lock on it come out with no problem.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-19
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- P98801
- VIN
- JT3HN86R710358534
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Cowboy Dodge Chrysler Jeep RAMReviews
Cowboy Dodge Chrysler Jeep RAM review
From Start to Finish... Every step of the way, every person I encountered, my experience was flawless, and better than expected! I am beyond pleased!
2001 Toyota 4Runner review
I bought my 4 Runner new in 2001, it's now 2023 and still running strong. I think I have an emotional attachment to it at this point. The car has been with me almost 1/2 my life. I drive that faded paint car like a badge of honor, because it shows there was a time in my life, when I made a really good decision!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver Met/Millennium Cladding
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 DOHC, regular gasoline, engine with 183HP
- Stock #
- P14304A
- VIN
- JT3GN86R210202221
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Earl Stewart ToyotaReviews
Earl Stewart Toyota review
Less than a week ago I contacted our friend Steve Hollosi, a longtime auto retailer who has since gone into automotive consulting about who I should speak with about getting our family a new ride. Hollosi (Success 360) asked me some questions about what we were looking at. After doing some initial research, he told me to contact Earl Stewart Toyota. My wife and I bought a car all virtually, the first time I've done that (shopped cars online, but never did it all online until now). From our first contact with the dealership, talking and messaging with various team members including the credit department, through to the delivery by a fine fellow named "Vinny," this has been the best vehicle buying experience I've had in over 50 years of car buying. Other than a modest glitch on their website, it has been a 'red carpet' experience. We are enjoying our new ride and would recommend others consider Earl Stewart Toyota if they are looking for a professional, candid, no pressure and transparent experience. As I told my friend in thanking him for the introduction, I do not normally offer a positive online review, for several reasons. But in this case, the Earl Stewart team deserve it. Keep up the good work.
2001 Toyota 4Runner review
Very reliable. Very capable and fun. Only had one issue with this thing and it was after I jumped it while offroading. Busted the steering rack. 300$ later she's good as new.
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Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 4079823
- VIN
- JT3GN86R6W0079823
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Corwin Motors KalispellReviews
Corwin Motors Kalispell review
Mario was very friendly and took time to find me the vehicle I was happy with. Im going to send more people to go visit with Mario soon 🙂
1998 Toyota 4Runner review
I bought my 98 4Runner Rand new. 2.7l 4cyl with 5sp manual trans. Yes it was a base model. It was Augent green with cloth tan interior steel rims, it did have running boards. I knew people in the salvage industry and for $300 I got a limited leather interior $125 for the alloy wheels, $50 roof rack, rear spoiler. For the first 50K miles I changed the oil every 10K miles, after that I changed it every 100K miles. Changed the filter every 10K and topped the oil off. I sold that car with 360K miles on it and the new owner drove it to NM from Pensacola Fl. I loved that car and had it not been hit in the left rear by a lady with zero insurance I’d still have it today. I was going to put a GM 5.3LM engine in it until the accident. That car was driven very very hard and never failed me. I did put a clutch in it,plus a rear end dif, brakes, and several sets of tires, but still what a car. My wife still talks about that vehicle to this day. I often think of buying another, but ones of that age usually look rough. That car made so many trips with me and my two boys, and again never let me down absolutely fantastic. I bought a brand new 2006 Camry and have had the same luck with it also a 2015 Camry
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Grey
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L
- Stock #
- K4995
- VIN
- JT3VN39W8N8043224
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Pacific Cars and TrucksReviews
Pacific Cars and Trucks review
Friday Feb. 16th, I went in on a spur of the moment to look for a car for my family. I am a single mom of toddler twins, an 8 yr that lives in Cali and a 16 yr old man child. I needed a car with plenty of space, that was reliable to get me to Cali to see my 8 yr old and that was safe for the twins. Jesse was the first to approach me! He was very kind and seemed to understand exactly what my family needed. He showed me their 2015 Ford Flex (I love flex’s so I was mostly already sold!) I took it for a test drive and decided to go for it! She was perfect for my family! I noticed by Sunday the car started to jolt. I had a feeling it was either a misfire in one of the cylinders or the tranny was slipping. By the following Tuesday morning, I went to get coffee before work and the check engine light came on. I emailed the guys there, and calmly voiced my frustration and said that I would be missing work that day to bring it back in. When I pulled back up, I was greeted by Chris and Jesse. I explained to them what had happened. Chris ran a code reader on it, sure enough it was a 4th cylinder misfire! Jesse introduced me to Thor, the mechanic next door and he said he’d get it fixed up! I was so pleased! We went over prices and what it would cost to switch it out. And it was way cheaper than going to Jiffy Lub to have it done there!! Which made me even more happier! Given Kitty (My Flex) was my only transportation, the guys decided to allow me to borrow one of their cars off the lot while Kitty was getting worked on. All of these guys, Jesse, Chris, Drew, Brad and Thor, are all such wonderful people!!! Very friendly! Very welcoming! Willing to listen to frustrations and concerns! Just amazing people!!! By midday Wednesday, Drew calls me on my lunch to inform me that Kitty was all done being worked on and she runs like new! Man, I was so excited to get off work to go pick her up! Drew also told me that they felt that with me only having the car a few days, that it wouldn’t be right to have me pay for the work. I was so shocked and surprised when he said that, I cried!!! Not only did they switch out the bad spark plug, they went ahead and replaced ALL SIX OF THEM!! WHEN I SAY THESE GUYS ARE AMAZING, THATS A HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!! I would absolutely recommend anyone and everyone to get a car from their lot!!!! They don’t treat you like you’re just another customer, they really treat you and take care of you like family!!!! My Kitty runs soooooooo amazingly!!!! From the very very deepest parts of our hearts, THANK YOU TO ALL FIVE OF YOU GUYS!!!! We sure love our Kitty and I can’t wait to take her to Cali at the end of next month!!!
1991 Toyota 4Runner review
every problem I ever had with mine was taken care of by toyota. I've been very hard on it, but it just keeps going...if you want to see something crazy search youtube for "topgear toyota truck"- they try to kill one, but it just won't die!
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