Cheap cars for sale in Borden, IN
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Smoke Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium gasoline, engi
- Stock #
- GX08937-1
- VIN
- 1N4BL11D35C293945
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
Dealer
John Jones Auto OutletReviews
John Jones Auto Outlet review
Salesman was knowledgeable about the car I wanted. Also answered all my questions so that I understood without talking over my head
2005 Nissan Altima review
I have had my 05 Altima for 18 years. Still running fine except for a few hiccups here and there which are expected for any machine. It now has over 200K miles and hopefully will last to 300K or more.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Frozen White
- Int. color
- Dark Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duratec 2L I-4 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 136HP
- Stock #
- V0707
- VIN
- NM0LS7CNXCT078020
Features
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
VEENUS MOTORSPORTS LLCReviews
VEENUS MOTORSPORTS LLC review
Very pleased with my purchase. Purchased 2011 Lincoln MKS and all I can say I love everything about it. Will definitely buy again from VEENUS, it exceeded my expectations.
2012 Ford Transit Connect review
Hauling all the gear you can imagine for a family trip or camping, or just a great gas saving commuter that seats 5...this is a great all-around low-cost vehicle to own. The high seating position was good for my back, and excellent visibility.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Frozen White
- Int. color
- Dark Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duratec 2L I-4 DOHC, regular unleaded, engine with 136HP
- Stock #
- V0761
- VIN
- NM0LS7CN6CT121607
Features
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
VEENUS MOTORSPORTS LLCReviews
VEENUS MOTORSPORTS LLC review
This place is amazing, they have a nice waiting room with free drinks and snacks! they also have affordable cars, that have been worked on by their own mechanic! They are also hiring!
2012 Ford Transit Connect review
For it's size, it's incredible for hauling items you may have thought were too big for most vehicles. Also comfortable on long trips with great gas mileage. as well.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Grape Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Silver
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.2L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- K17251A
- VIN
- KL8CD6S90FC748912
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
The Kia Store PrestonReviews
The Kia Store Preston review
Very helpful kind and hard working. Financing wash smooth. The staff was knowledgeable and efficient. The overall experience was positive. I bought a beautiful car.
2015 Chevrolet Spark review
I've only had the car for a week, but gets great gas mileage. If you can believe the mileage on the dash I'm getting 38.8 mpg. It isn't a speed demon but has good pickup for a 4 cyl car. I do notice hesitation when shifting into drive but it I attribute that to lack of power. It does fine getting me where I need to go.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cyber Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd w/Overdrive & Shift Control
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 8317
- VIN
- 1GNKVJEDXBJ114684
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Digital Auto LLCReviews
Digital Auto LLC review
Bought a Prius from them in August of 2021. Quality car, good price. No complaints. -Look- Saw the negative reviews for these guys and was a little discouraged, but here's the deal - they're a used car lot. They buy and sell cars en masse and used cars aren't new. Typically, these guys barely know more about the car than you do because there's no way for them to. You don't want a bad deal, they don't want to sell a bad deal. No one wants the hassle. So when you test drive, pay some money and drive it to a dealer for inspection. Don't want to do that? Then you roll the dice just like they do.
2011 Chevrolet Traverse review
2011 and 179,000 miles still running strong. Main repairs, some under warranty Expect your power steering pump to leak. Fixed 2x. 2nd time had to pay to replace new p. steering pump and rack assembly. $1200. Water pump leaked, needed replacing at 80k. $500 Valve cover gaskets leak. Engine runs strong, up to 21mpg highway. Transmission is smooth. Replaced all struts and shocks myself at 120k. ,$400 for all fr Amazon. Replaced all rotors and pads 2x in 179,000. Did myself at home. Rotors are $50 each doe AC Delco Silver ( Made in China) Pads are $60 for all 4 ceramic pads. YouTube has tons of videos on how to do brakes. Tuned up myself with Iridium plugs. Need a special spark plug wrench. Plugs are deep inside engine. Replaced all 6 spark coils myself for $80. Total tune-up with air & pcv filter less than $200. Interior still looks great. Most comfortable seats I've had. Exterior tricoat white pearl paint still glistening. Cooper tires last 75k on this car. Goodyear Fortrera stock tires noisy after 20k. Blowout at 30k. Auto VSC auto stabilze worked perfect. Keep car straight after blowout at 75moh.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Charcoal Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- JUA08858STK
- VIN
- 1FMCU0HD4JUA08858
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Joe's Auto SalesReviews
Joe's Auto Sales review
Joe is absolutely fantastic! His google reviews will speak for themselves if you want to check them out, but to sum it up quickly he is very open and honest about any of his vehicles, one of the most laid back guys you will meet. He really knows his stuff, he will help you out as much as he can. I got a steal of a car at an amazing price. Joe also doesn’t charge any dealership fees which helps tremendously. Any car listed by him is worth checking out at the minimum
2018 Ford Escape review
This is my 2nd Escape in 12 years. I drive for a living and I love feeling safe on the road. I've had no problems with this car. I personally have put over 400,000 miles on it in just 4 years. Take care of your car, and your car will take care of you.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Charcoal Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 8332
- VIN
- 3FA6P0D95DR181333
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Digital Auto LLCReviews
Digital Auto LLC review
Great people! Out of state purchase that went really smoothly. They even fixed an issue out of warranty that popped up shortly after buying. This is the place to find your new car!
2013 Ford Fusion review
I owned the 2013 Fusion SE with the 2.0 Liter Turbo engine for 10 years, and I loved it. It even had paddle shifters! It got me where I wanted to go, never left me stranded, even started right up in 6-degree weather on a trip last Dec. where it spent the night outside. Everything worked reliably - only replacements have been battery & tires. I kept it well-maintained and garaged when home, so that helps.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Hot Pepper Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Medium Light Stone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto, 6-Spd Powershift
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- 8333
- VIN
- 1FADP3F21JL248769
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Digital Auto LLCReviews
Digital Auto LLC review
This is the best dealership I have ever been to. Amy helped with any questions I had, always communicated with what was going on through the whole buying process. Definitely would recommend this place. AMY IS THE BEST SALESPERSON.
2018 Ford Focus review
Purchased a used 2018 with 35K miles in 2023. I now have 75K miles as it's a commuter car, about 90 miles a day. I average almost 41 mpg going from Pueblo to Colorado Springs and back. The CVT was a bit suspect when I first got it, but I think the driving has corrected the 3rd gear delay. The CVT is hands down better than my Altima. One year that car was gone, total junk.
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$7,299
Est. $133/mo Ray's Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 19161
- VIN
- 2GNALBEK9G1125666
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ray's Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Ray's Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
So I didn't buy a vehicle they where fixing my truck. The service department is a great treat to work with. They are honest and upfront with everything. I will take all my vehicles there.
2016 Chevrolet Equinox review
I've taken my 2016 equinox from Colorado to Eastern North Carolina several times. Never a issue love this car. But now I want something else, so will be getting rid of it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- 225460A
- VIN
- MAJ6P1WL0JC237414
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
Glenn Chevrolet review
Wonderful dealership. It was about a 30 minute drive, but wow was it worth it! They had the vehicle pulled around and ready for me with a big red bow! Glenn Chevrolet is the best place in Kentucky to buy a new Chevrolet!
2018 Ford EcoSport review
We bought our ecosport 2018 in 2020 with 19000 kms going on 6 years now. We love it, have gone onlong trips 5 times. Great on gas . Now 2026 recall first time for any repairs.
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$6,500
Est. $119/mo Bob Poynter Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat Ford of Seymour
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-27
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V6 12V MPFI OHV Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- P2985A
- VIN
- 1D4GP25353B311475
Features
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Bob Poynter Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat Ford of SeymourReviews
Bob Poynter Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat Ford of Seymour review
Went to buy a car I had seen oncars.com. Drove away in my newly acquired vehicle. They were very helpful. No pressure. I test drove the car and decided on it right then
2003 Dodge Caravan review
This Dodge Braun Entervan with push button door and ramp deployment is easy access. Remote push bottom start. Great condition and ready for the next family to use and enjoy.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Caspian Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Sandstone Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.2L I-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 123354A
- VIN
- YV4952DL3C2270046
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
Glenn Chevrolet review
What a fun place to shop for a car. They sent me a video of the vehicle before i made the trip, the vehicle was ready when I arrived and I was in and out in an hour! Glenn knows what they are doing!
2012 Volvo XC60 review
love it, hp, acceleration, interior super clean, great cargo room, excellent handling, easy interface features, has the luxury of a newer vehicle, great off road.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Sand Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Charcoal Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Duratec 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- T71355A
- VIN
- 2FMDK39C78BB45200
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
O'Brien FordReviews
O'Brien Ford review
Today we bought our 6th Ford from our salesperson Allen Toll.The reason we continue to go back is because of his experience in the car business and how hassle free it is.Again Thank you Allen and Obrein Ford
2008 Ford Edge review
I bought my 08 ford edge sel used. I did tune up first week of ownership and regular maintenence as scheduled. Always reliable and comfortable. Only complaint is back interior. The light in the trunk was always covered as I always had stuff in trunk and back window did not open separate from trunk door like other suvs. Unfortunately after 7 years and 100000 miles plus from me I became unconscious while driving and destroyed her. She saved me though. Impressive safety in crash. Definitely would buy again
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 5.3L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- CHE363A
- VIN
- 1GKS2KE70DR308165
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
Glenn Chevrolet review
Best dealership in Kentucky and it's not even close. They are kind and interested in getting to know what is best for you. I never thought I'd say that about a car dealership, but these guys are second to none.
2013 GMC Yukon XL review
This meets all of my needs so far, I expect it will continue to do so, and will last me a long time. I love it. 1 owner, perfect interior, no accidents, no scratches, no dents.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sonoma Sunset Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 26372B
- VIN
- 3N1BC11E99L363304
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
Shelbyville Chrysler ProductsReviews
Shelbyville Chrysler Products review
Not a pushy bunch. Sales folk seemed decent but I only worked with one. Just be aware of the typical dealer antics. They will work with you to get you the car you can get, which may surprise you
2009 Nissan Versa review
Owned car since new. Never had a problem with it. Normal repair items, brakes, muffler, Tires, battery over 16 years. Have best engine 1.8 and transmission 4 speed auto, avoid other transmission. Had 2 recalls which was fixed. One of the best cars I owned out of 15 over years. Great basic reliable car. Still runs well.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Desert Sand Mica
- Int. color
- Dark Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- PU1665
- VIN
- 4T1BE32K84U298933
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
Glenn Chevrolet review
Great place to buy cars from! They make the process easy and simple! Would return again!
2004 Toyota Camry review
My 2004 Toyota Camry 2.4L it’s been the best reliable car a ever had , originally purchased to fix the crank shaft sensor on it do to gears not shifting properly, and resale after that , but after fixing it my self , I ended up Loving it , it now has 280,000 miles and still running with 0 problems or lights on the dashboard, and for sure will go over 300 k miles , it’s just and AMAZING car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ingot Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 328234C
- VIN
- 1FMCU0GX0EUC58292
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
Glenn Chevrolet review
Glenn Chevrolet delivers unmatched service, transparent pricing, and friendly professionals who truly care, they made our purchase effortless and enjoyable from start to finish.
2014 Ford Escape review
Second owner of this car . Had it for 10 years and put approx 80k on it . Very reliable and sporty . Only major expense has been fuel pump that went out about 2 yrs ago . Do all the maint myself and fairly easy to work on .
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Light Cashmere/Dark Cashmere
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 5.3L V-8 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- CHE298A
- VIN
- 1GNSKKE70CR103463
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
2012 Chevrolet Suburban review
Love this truck and will only buy suburban s from now on . LTZ version with every cell and whistle they have . The only other vehicle I’d consider is the Cadillac Escalade .i bought mine in Hawaii then 4 years later shipped it to Oklahoma .
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mocha Bronze Metallic
- Int. color
- Choccahino
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- CHE333B
- VIN
- 5GAKVCKD8DJ269764
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Glenn ChevroletReviews
2013 Buick Enclave review
rides like a dream easy to park lots of room inside can carry whole family or put the seat down for construction load. It has a beautiful body and looks important on the road
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 297
- VIN
- 2T1KU4EE1AC495924
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Top Tier MotorsReviews
Top Tier Motors review
Talk to your motors was very professional, and very smooth to work with. I bought a car online and they were very helpful. I drove to their dealership from North Carolina and they had the car ready to go, I was on my way in about an hour.
2010 Toyota Matrix review
At a time when I was moving around two dogs and a cat, this car was an absolute must. It was a great value to start and even more so now that I use it as a second vehicle. The only maintenance I've done is the routine oil changes, etc. I expect to own it for another 10 years
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