Used cargo vans for sale near Lower Frederick, PA
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$45,999
Est. $831/mo Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V DDI DOHC Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- APFLO9254
- VIN
- W1Y4NCHY8RT175764
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Chapman Ford of Northeast PhiladelphiaReviews
Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia review
Don Biddle and the Chapman group made my experience a very good one. They are very friendly and professional. I am very grateful and excited to drive my 2025 Bronco Sport. It's a whole new experience coming out of driving the escape models for many years.
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$63,993
Est. $1,156/mo Mercedes-Benz of Fort Washington
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V DDI DOHC Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- K233197A
- VIN
- W1Y4NBHY3TT233197
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
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Mercedes-Benz of Fort WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Fort Washington review
I am still interested in upgrading my 2003 SL 500 to a 2015 SL400. They immediately responded red to my inquiry. I am planning on visiting the dealership this week.
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$52,693
Est. $952/mo Mercedes-Benz of Lehigh Valley
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- L00886
- VIN
- W1Y4KBHY0ST230989
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Mercedes-Benz of Lehigh ValleyReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Lehigh Valley review
Coming in to pickup my ordered vehicle, this newly renovated facility is exceptionally clean and distinguishes itself from other dealers in the area. Will come back for service for sure.
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$25,580
Est. $462/mo Fred Beans Ford of Doylestown
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- F6086P
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y84LKB14686
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Fred Beans Ford of DoylestownReviews
Fred Beans Ford of Doylestown review
Professional, friendly service advisors and competent efficient mechanics in the service department. Excellent customer experience.
2020 Ford Transit-250 review
Great cargo van - just what we were looking for to convert into a camping base camp for hiking and fishing excursions in our retirement.
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$32,493
Est. $587/mo Fred Beans Ford of Exton
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- EBONY CLOTH
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- E01147P
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y82RKA71314
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Fred Beans Ford of Exton -
$31,993
Est. $578/mo Fred Beans Ford of Exton
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- EBONY CLOTH
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- E01146P
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y83RKA59883
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Fred Beans Ford of Exton -
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- W6055
- VIN
- 1FBAX2Y80PKB08773
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
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CarsIndex - HorshamReviews
CarsIndex - Horsham review
Shout out to Chris !! He was very patient, understanding & communicative throughout the entire process !! Made buying a car a breeze !! Definitely sending some referrals his way !!! Thank you for everything!!
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- W6097
- VIN
- 3C6TRVAG2JE153149
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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CarsIndex - HorshamReviews
CarsIndex - Horsham review
WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE! Very Nice people! They made sure you felt most comfortable with no pressure. The salesman Christopher very patient and informative. The Finance manager very pleasant and diligent. He made sure the deal was completed thoroughly with no cut corners! 10/10 HIGHLY RECOMMEND you to buy your next car from Carsindex!
2018 RAM ProMaster 1500 review
Purchased this vehicle as an alternative to the AWD SUV I had planned on getting. Was very reluctant at first but ended up making the deal. Wanted an AWD SUV to start doing road trips across America starting in 2019. Gave it 5 STARS Reliability, but C-Mon it only has 300 miles on it so look at longer term owners for a Reliability score. Family ended up needing a vehicle capable of being used part time as a wheelchair ramp vehicle, and the Promaster had the lowest load floor of the full size vans. So that's what I looked at and ended up purchasing. Got the 136" wheelbase high roof, and after owning it a couple weeks went from meh to absolutely loving this vehicle. It felt huge at first, you sit higher than 4x4 1 ton trucks, and it's over 6' wide internally! Yet despite it's intimidating factor it still fits if just barely into any normal parking spot! It's the perfect size for a non commercial user like me, tons of room internally but can park anywhere. I've owned tons of new and used trucks over the years and even I was a bit iffy driving this at first. Poor visibility as it has no windows out back, but the great side mirrors and backup camera quickly took away that intimidation factor. Now it feels just like a very tall Minivan and I can drive it around parking lots with ease. What amazes me even after a few hundred miles is the turning circle! I swear it has a tighter turning circle than my 2014 Nissan Altima that's my daily driver! It's insane how it can make U-Turns and swing around in parking lots so easily. Finally the more I look over the vehicle the more I love how they built it. They claim it's the easiest and cheapest commercial van to service and maintain and I'm a believer now. Fuel Pump access is under a cover in the cab, and almost everything for normal maintenance and repair is easily accessed via floor hatches or under the hood. The interior is very odd looking but functional, the Ford has a much nicer looking Dashboard layout though. I do have to say though this Promaster's dashboard feels very durable and just makes it feel like a big rig compared to a wagon like the Fords did. I may be weird but I like feeling like I'm driving a Big Rig and ended up even loving that. Really my only complaint for the vehicle is the interior paint. I've hauled a few things so far and I swear the paint on the interior floor scratches just looking at it! I have ordered Hurculiner to roll onto the floor and wheel housings so I never had to worry about it again. Plan on doing 3 coats just to give it a nice thick barrier to protect the metal. Didn't really want to buy this 'Stupid Bug-eyed Van' as I called it at first... But good god I've ended up falling in love with it's useful design quirks and honestly fun to drive around high seating position! I swear I feel I could put anything in it and it would haul it without complaint, and the lower load floor has no step on the side or back doors and is level all the way across.
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$34,880
Est. $630/mo Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- R2934
- VIN
- 1GTW7AFP3R1223835
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Pacifico Marple Ford LincolnReviews
Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln review
Just purchased my new Escape. The process was easy and the Salesman was very knowledgeable. All in all it was a pleasant process
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$34,990
Est. $632/mo Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln
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- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- R2933
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP3R1197110
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Pacifico Marple Ford LincolnReviews
Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln review
We traveled from South of Pittsburgh to Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln. We communicated with Joe over the phone. We had a quote within minutes. Joe was able to check off everything on our list. From our trade to the final price. We traveled and Mike took care of us. He made this transaction stress free. Professional but more so; this dealership has a warm and family feel. We will be referring this dealership to friends and family. We will be back when we are ready to upgrade again.
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- Ext. color
- Silver Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Grey
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.4L V-8 regular unleaded, engine with 230HP
- Stock #
- MM1594
- VIN
- 1FTJS34L3VHA54471
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McGinty MotorcarsReviews
McGinty Motorcars review
Great experience! Everything went well. Pat stayed in touch and informed me of everything he did, so I stayed in the loop. This was my first experience selling a classic car and it couldn’t have been easier.
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- Ext. color
- School Bus Yellow
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- A2604131
- VIN
- 1FTRS4X86MKA92908
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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AutoProvedReviews
AutoProved review
I had a great experience at this dealership. The staff was extremely friendly and my salesman Wayne was amazing. I would highly recommend him for your next auto purchase!
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- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- U4915
- VIN
- 1FBAX9CG4PKB82964
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Gilboy FordReviews
Gilboy Ford review
I like people who are willing to negotiate- they gave me a very good offer to my "request," yet the vehicle was not exactly what I was shopping for-- just "available!"
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 11-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.8L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- P5471
- VIN
- 1GTW7FCF8F1267818
Features
- Safety
- Stability Control
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Granite Run Buick GMCReviews
Granite Run Buick GMC review
It was very good, from the beginning to the end, no hassle very professional and very accommodating, got me everything I needed and the most important they got me the best rate available.
2015 GMC Savana 2500 review
I need nice car transmisión and good look for job for work god condition milled transition and good price too the motor and evrithing good
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$23,995
Est. $434/mo Star Auto Mall
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- U11326
- VIN
- 1FTYE2Y86PKA69395
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Star Auto MallReviews
Star Auto Mall review
I definitely recommend getting a car from this place. Chelsea W was awesome to work with. She is friendly, kind, and will go above and beyond to help you. Paul, the finance guy, was also great to work with. He was very informative, kept you in the loop going step-by-step, also trying to get the best deal for you. I typically hate going to car dealerships. They are usually pushy and sliding things past you trying to get a deal. This place did not. I will be purchasing my next vehicle from them!
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- EBONY CLOTH
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- P2961
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y82RKA71040
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Springfield Ford IncReviews
Springfield Ford Inc review
If you’re in the market for a vehicle ask for sales men Tom DeVito
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$31,499
Est. $569/mo Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- AP9287
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y84PKB26391
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Chapman Ford of Northeast PhiladelphiaReviews
Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia review
Made my initial appointment online. Had Great Communication from that time up until the day of the appointment. I arrived early and had a very Helpful salesperson, friendly staff and services.
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 8924
- VIN
- 3C6MRVJG2ME590254
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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MainLine AutoReviews
MainLine Auto review
Easy-going and extremely helpful. Thanks for your assistance in getting our family back on the road Tony💪🏾 highly recommended!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 11648
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDG9ME525070
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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MainLine AutoReviews
MainLine Auto review
Great staff and huge inventory I definitely recommend buying there I bought my charger there and I’m very happy with it they did help me out a lot to get financed
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- DARK PALAZZO GRAY VINYL
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 8080
- VIN
- 1FTYE1Y81LKA02823
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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MainLine AutoReviews
MainLine Auto review
Great cars and great service, came in and drove off with a 2022 Honda accord. They did what’s they promised and got me a great deal!
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- BLUETEC 3L V-6 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- TL9067
- VIN
- WD3PE7CC7D5734247
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
Great Place Taj auto mall, all I see is happy faces, from the whole team at Taj auto they are friendly and welcomed me, Ray and Pete explained everything I was signing clearly.... and went out of their way to help me. they are 2 "GREAT MEN" Wonderful salesmanship very professional and courteous very pleasant experience I would definitely recommend to anyone! Thank again Cathy Kennedy
2013 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter review
For a work van it's amazing! I love the ride! Good power, fuel mileage is great! I do seamless gutter and it handles the weight no problem! I love it!
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$26,977
Est. $488/mo TAJ Auto Mall
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- T9163
- VIN
- WD3PF0CD9HP399600
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
We knew the car we were getting before we got there. Did check out on the internet before we went, made an appointment with Owen and went up. Was greeted by a nice lady who got Owen for us . He brought the car around and said to drive it around for awhile and he would checkout my trade. After all was said and done we got the car we wanted at the price we wanted and a little more for our trade then we thought.we met with the general manager and the finance man. Everybody there was fantastic!!! Definitely would recommend the dealership and ask for Owen he was great.
2017 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 3500 review
That car met all my need, comfortable for the passenger and driver, very reliable like all Mercedes. powerful, comfortable, reliable, these wards for that car
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- TL9140
- VIN
- 3C6URVJG1LE112759
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
TAJ Auto MallReviews
TAJ Auto Mall review
I BOUGHT MY CAR FROM YAMAN AND HE WAS EXCELLENT GAVE ME SUCH A GREAT DEAL I COULD NOT REFUSE. GO TAJ AUTO MALL .
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- ABS9148
- VIN
- 3C6LRVAG4PE539855
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto Buying ServiceReviews
Auto Buying Service review
The team has been of a great help to find my friends and family cars for their daily necessities.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Medium Dark Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 1CV4579
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP1R1254579
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
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Impex Auto SalesReviews
Impex Auto Sales review
Good cars, excellent variety, friendly staff. Pricing is "transparent and competitive", but allows little in negotiating. Overall, a good experience. Warranty covers 5 days and 300 miles. Based on that, I did not do a PPI other than my own walk around. Clutch slave gave out at 170 miles and 3 days. I had it towed at my expense ($258). The Sales team has worked to resolve this and I appreciate it (although not offering to pay for the tow). The Service team tried to blame me as being rough on the car. . .really? Right out of the gate you want to blame the customer. How about replacing the clutch fluid since there was no indication it has ever been done? Water and corrosion were likely. Then the service rep tried to tell me it worked fine when they (service) did the pre-sale inspection. Also told me clutches and associated components were't covered. Appears service and sales are separate entities that may not work well together? Can't say, but that's what I was told and there seems to be a disconnect. Either way, I expect to have the car back soon. I will update this response as needed. As of today, Sales is driving the solution and has done the right thing. Pending the resolution, I would buy here again.