Used cargo vans for sale near Robbins, IL
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$36,371
Est. $685/mo Marino Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- D8282
- VIN
- 3C6LRVVG9SE520608
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Marino Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAMReviews
Marino Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM review
5-Star Review: Excellent Car Buying Experience! I recently purchased a car from Marino CJD and I couldn't be happier with the experience. From start to finish, the service was top-notch. The staff was friendly, professional, and knowledgeable — they answered all my questions without any pressure. The entire process was smooth and efficient. They made sure I was comfortable with my decision and went above and beyond to ensure everything was handled properly. The car was in great condition, just as described, and the pricing was fair and transparent. If you're looking for a dealership that values customer service and makes car buying stress-free, I highly recommend Marino CJD. Thanks again to the team for making this such a positive experience!
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$11,900
Est. $224/mo Jennings Chevy / VW
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Neutral
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- T4431A
- VIN
- 1GCSGAFXXC1162568
Features
- Safety
- Stability Control
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Jennings Chevy / VWReviews
Jennings Chevy / VW review
They are absolutely great. They always take care of my vehicle & make me feel like a valued customer. I always recommend or refer others to Jennings Chevrolet.
2012 Chevrolet Express 1500 review
My second chevy express van. Really like how reliable these vans are and built in USA! Good van for hauling also. Not bad on gas
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$25,000
Est. $471/mo Car and Drive Motorsports
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- C508493
- VIN
- 3C6ERVDG6ME508493
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Car and Drive Motorsports -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- FA68416
- VIN
- 1FBAX2YG6PKA68416
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Elmhurst FordReviews
Elmhurst Ford review
All the financial numbers where accurate and the staff was honest at the end of signing the paperwork When I came next day to sign the paperwork I was surprised that finance staff had even better interest rate than day before that we verbally agreed
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 722
- VIN
- 1FTBR1C89PKB29357
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Advance 1 Auto GroupReviews
Advance 1 Auto Group review
Very accommodating and straight forward with pricing. Painless experience overall, I'd gladly shop here again!
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$16,995
Est. $320/mo Blue Sky Auto Sales - Brighton Park
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- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- LE117692
- VIN
- 3C6URVJG9LE117692
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Blue Sky Auto Sales - Brighton Park -
$25,407
Est. $479/mo Auto Showcase of Carol Stream
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- Ext. color
- Frozen White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, iVCT variable valve cont
- Stock #
- AS19765
- VIN
- NM0LS7S21N1514145
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto Showcase of Carol StreamReviews
Auto Showcase of Carol Stream review
Had a pleasurable experience with them.no xx.buying a car there was easy and fairly quick.would buy another cas there.
2022 Ford Transit Connect review
i love this car i can wait for ford to make the new transit connect if you take car of it and do all your recomeded service this car will go 200,000 + miles but if you dont take car of it you know what is going to happen
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$39,663
Est. $747/mo McGrath Acura of Westmont
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- PJ12690
- VIN
- 3C6MRVJG9RE126305
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
McGrath Acura of WestmontReviews
McGrath Acura of Westmont review
Micheal was a great salesperson. I would highly recommend him and this dealership to anyone who is looking to purchase a vehicle.
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$27,407
Est. $516/mo Auto Showcase of Carol Stream
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- Ext. color
- Bright White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regul
- Stock #
- AS19759
- VIN
- ZFBHRFAB9N6X50032
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Auto Showcase of Carol StreamReviews
Auto Showcase of Carol Stream review
I have been searching for a Saturn sky for about a year. I was fortunate that I found this dealership on the internet and was able to find exactly what I had been looking for. I was really apprehensive about buying a car sight unseen and from a stranger with the fraud schemes that happen all the time but I talked myself into it. The customer service was fantastic, the car is immaculate and everything they said it would be!! Thanks guys for restoring my faith in humanity. You are truly one of the good ones and I will recommend you to everyone.
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$26,407
Est. $497/mo Auto Showcase of Carol Stream
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- Ext. color
- Bright White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regul
- Stock #
- AS19787
- VIN
- ZFBHRFAB9N6W54014
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto Showcase of Carol StreamReviews
Auto Showcase of Carol Stream review
Today We Purchased a Tesla Y 3rd row option Long Range, which is awesome. Jim, I Could not be happier with the paperwork process and the loan Apr Rate. Thanks for the Charger which is a bonus.. I will definitely be back for my daughters car here soon.
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$33,995
Est. $640/mo High Quality Auto Sales - Archer Ave
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 14851
- VIN
- 1FTBW2C85PKA73450
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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High Quality Auto Sales - Archer Ave -
$25,500
Est. $480/mo Car and Drive Motorsports
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- C508496
- VIN
- 3C6ERVDG1ME508496
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Car and Drive MotorsportsReviews
Car and Drive Motorsports review
The guys at bobrorhman Kia we’re very helpful, and was a great first experience buying a car.
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- Ext. color
- Ingot Silver
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- B32657
- VIN
- 1FTBR1C8XPKA96398
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Baha Auto of BurbankReviews
Baha Auto of Burbank review
Great vehicles! Great service! Highly recommend this dealership who’s looking for a hassle free buy and very transparent paper work! Thank you baha auto group!
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$36,412
Est. $686/mo Woody Buick GMC Naperville
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- G14227A
- VIN
- 3C6LRVAG0SE529509
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Woody Buick GMC NapervilleReviews
Woody Buick GMC Naperville review
Worked with Brian Newcomb and he was knowledgeable and personable. A pleasure to work with on our purchase.
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- Ext. color
- Shadow Black
- Int. color
- Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variab
- Stock #
- P7865
- VIN
- 1FBZX2ZG7KKB04656
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Packey Webb FordReviews
Packey Webb Ford review
Very nice and respectful salesperson. They explain Very professional. I would recommend to friends. Thank you.
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$32,407
Est. $611/mo Auto Showcase of Carol Stream
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- AS19959
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDG7RE153557
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Auto Showcase of Carol StreamReviews
Auto Showcase of Carol Stream review
All around amazing experience at the Auto Showcase of Carol Stream Car Dealership, great people, great selection and even better prices!
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$34,000
Est. $641/mo Pearl Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 9535
- VIN
- 3C6LRVVG5RE156004
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pearl Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Pearl Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Thank you Bill, Chad, Jimmy, Brandon for taking care of Karen and me you guys are great and fun to be around thank you pearl
2024 RAM ProMaster 2500 review
Ram Pro-master 2500 is a best solution for someone to start your own business or used this van for family trips, very spacious, drive smooth, feels very nice and safe with all the panoramic view from the front windshield.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- P7818
- VIN
- 1FBAX2YG3LKB39131
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Packey Webb FordReviews
Packey Webb Ford review
My experience buying my 2026 Escape ST Line Select at Packey Webb Ford was outstanding! I am happy with the selections, colors & transparent pricing for my purchase. Over many years I have purchased vehicles from Packey Webb Ford-always professional, friendly & no pressure experience. That is the reason I keep going back to this great Ford dealership! Charles Franz is a great sales consultant. He is professional, detail oriented, listens to the customer & very knowledgable! He was honest & transparent, making a Great Sales Experience for me! Clearly Packey Webb Ford and their staff set the bar high across the board, for a great customer experience! To me, Simply the Best Ford dealership!
2020 Ford Transit-350 review
This Van is pretty cool I have lots of leg Room the vehicle have lots of power I really enjoyed the color, And I like a starting options from my cell phone.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic 10-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V6
- Stock #
- BB123
- VIN
- 1FTBR3X8XMKA22139
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Summit Auto CenterReviews
Summit Auto Center review
After extensive searching I found a truck at summit auto center that matched my needs. After deciding to buy the truck, the whole process was actually easier than some local deals I have made. The condition of the truck is outstanding! At 6 years old it is in a condition that one would expect of a 1 to 2 year old unit. I am very pleased with the deal. A search for any trucks I may need in the future will start at Summit Auto Center
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- XP716
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y88RKA87386
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
D'Arcy MitsubishiReviews
D'Arcy Mitsubishi review
Alison took care of 100% of my needs from the beginning. Her level of expertise and professionalism is unequaled in the automotive sales world. Thank you Alison and Francisco! I am glad to have met you both and appreciate your making my car buying experience quick and enjoyable.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- P7973
- VIN
- 1FBAX2YG3RKA04126
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Packey Webb FordReviews
Packey Webb Ford review
Always excellent service and knowledgeable techs and service writers. I wouldn't go anywhere else than Packey Webb Ford Thank you Packey Webb
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 21646
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDG4RE100797
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ultimate Motor CarsReviews
Ultimate Motor Cars review
Fantastic store to work with. When I asked information regarding the interested car, they responded quickly and forwarded pictures plus the carfax almost immediately. Follow up was fantastic. Would highly recommend them.
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$19,500
Est. $367/mo Unlimited Motors Fishers
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- STK333705
- VIN
- 1GCZGGFP6K1333705
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Unlimited Motors FishersReviews
Unlimited Motors Fishers review
Jimmy was very helpful to me with questions concerning an auto they had at their Fishers location.I asked him to do a walk around the vehicle for me,which he did and sent me the video.We didn't come to an agreement on the car,but like I said earlier, Jimmy's the person to ask for. Sincerely,Roy Latham
2019 Chevrolet Express 3500 review
I love this van. The only thing wrong is that the A/C doesn't work. I notified my commercial rep, Andrew and he said to bring it in at my earliest convenience.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- P19036
- VIN
- 1FBAX9CG1SKA07130
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ewald's Venus FordReviews
Ewald's Venus Ford review
I stopped at Ewald hopefully to buy a new car. I'd never done it before on my own. Baha was the first to greet me and asked what I was looking for and the price range I could live with. The first car he showed me was exactly what I was hoping for. Baha started the loan papers and came up with a price I was happy with. I left with the car that day and was happy with the experience. If you're looking for a stress free and capable salesperson, I suggest going to ewald, and ask for Baha!