Used convertibles for sale in Lenoir, NC
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Shadow Black
- Int. color
- Showstopper Red
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.0L V8 32V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 3U1671
- VIN
- 1FATP8FF1N5140254
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarHeroes Ford of LenoirReviews
2022 Ford Mustang review
After a negligent driver rear-ended my other car, I bought a 2022 Mustang GT Premium with the insurance money. I had a 1979 Mustang Cobra years ago and loved it. This is a great car, too. Fast, comfortable and beautiful. I haven't driven it in snow yet and have some trepidation about that but otherwise I'm glad I bought it. There are only three things I don't like: the car payment (who does?), the gas mileage, although I can get 30 mpg if I drive 58 mph, and there seems to be some high school kid at every stoplight who wants to race. This is definitely a car worth buying if you're an empty-nester, going through your mid-life crisis or single and don't have to haul much in your trunk.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Sapphire Metallic
- Int. color
- Saddle Brown/Excl. Stitch
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-33
- Fuel type
- Premium gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 101016A1
- VIN
- WBA3T1C57GP823265
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Paramount Kia of HickoryReviews
Paramount Kia of Hickory review
Katie was awsome... great to work with ... glad I came to see her and bought a car from her !
2016 BMW 428 review
Car drives well. I recommend driving it in Sport mode. The Eco feature and start and stop will wear out the starter. Also, the braking is hard on this car. You cannot ease into a stop. It is like it does not want to stop and you have to press the pedal harder than normal.
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$18,178
Est. $331/mo McNeill Nissan of Wilkesboro
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Copper Red Mica
- Int. color
- Dune Beige
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- PN2171
- VIN
- JM1NC26F890200867
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
McNeill Nissan of WilkesboroReviews
McNeill Nissan of Wilkesboro review
After Shopping around at other Dealerships, I came back to McNeill Nissan, Customer service, and satisfaction, was amazing. Explained the true MSRPs an didn't go over. Told them a price and met me where I wanted. Would tell anyone to use McNeill Nissan when looking to purchase a vehicle.
2009 Mazda MX-5 Miata review
I just purchased it. So far it meets my expectations. I wanted a roadster in Florida. Bought a used one. Did not want to spend a lot of money. It met my budget.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cool (Liquid Silver Metallic)
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Manual
- Engine
- Ecotec 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- B8113783
- VIN
- 1G2MG35XX8Y113783
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
Crossroads Car and TruckReviews
Crossroads Car and Truck review
My purchase went very smoothly and quickly. I went for a test driving just a few minutes after arriving. Satisfied, moved on to closing. While setting up new auto insurance, all paperwork was prepared. Donald was very experienced and explained things clearly and patiently until I understood. I am glad I found a good car at a good price here!
2008 Pontiac Solstice review
I absolutely love my Solstice GXP. It's got all the pep you could ever want,it handles & corners like it's on rails! I laugh everytime I see & easily pass Miata's,what a joke they are. I see people complaining about no storage space with these cars! Yes a little more space would be nice but that's what my truck is for. I go every 2 weeks & get groceries & supplies & I spend between $250-$400 and i can get it all in the car. And there are big items in there like 2 cases of pop,a big pail of Cat litter (the 35 lb. pail) and lots of other items. 12 rolls of paper towels, I do use the passenger & floor too but I can get it all in there. I also see people complain about cup holders,and somewhere to put change. The guy in Delaware. There are pockets on the front of both seats,rear of them too. Also the cup holder on the passenger side of console by their left knee,as well as the 2 behind your right elbow. If it bothers you that much buy the aftermarket cup holder for these cars! I'm 6 ft tall & don't have any sight problems he complained about,my Solstice has a power seat button that raises & lowers the drivers seat (only) not forward & back. The button is between your knees more on the left side. I had my car for almost 3 yrs before I discovered this. LOL I took the seat out to install some wiring for the interior lighting I put in,that's when I saw it. The only thing I can complain about is the location of the power window buttons. When I rest my right arm I accidentally hit the buttons and the windows go down. But that's not a big deal. Besides this winter when I put the car away I'm going to relocate them to the center console behind the shifter,because I can! The stereo system is quite impressive for a factory unit. I've had several thousand dollar Alpine,Nakamichi,ADS,Eclipse,Denon systems in my cars thru the years & this is comparable. Could use another subwoofer,to really get the bass i want. But it rocks! My brother always says I can't believe that's a factory system!!!. I love my Solstice. Everywhere I go i get asked what kind of car it is,how fast it is,and they love the color,Mean Yellow! I get alot of looks,especially when I get out of it because this spring i installed the Lamborghini door kit. So people really freak out when they see that. I think for giggles I'm going to buy either Lamborghini or Ferrari emblems to put on it. LOL I did tgat on a Dodge Neon i had years ago, i put Chevy emblems on it. When i traded it in the salespeople laughed hard when they saw it. I bought it in August of 2018 with 13,000 miles,I've got 36,000 on it now & haven't had a single problem. None!!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Portimao Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Cognac w/Contrast Stitch
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Premium gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- TWY49239
- VIN
- WBAHF9C04TWY49239
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of BuckheadReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Buckhead review
Facility is amazing and the sales team is awesome!!! MB of Buckhead, now has a customer for life. Thanks again MB of Buckhead.
2026 BMW Z4 review
Following two Mazda Miatas and a MINI Roadster S, we chose the last year of the BMW z4 to continue our top down motoring experience. While certainly larger than our previous roadsters, it has superior engine performance and handling capabilities and a more premium interior and spectacular exterior appeal. We found the B46 4 cylinder engine plenty powerful and did not want/need the legend B58 6 cylinder's extra power, cost or insurance premium. The z4 sDrive 30i offers similar camaraderie as the Miatas and MINIs with both BMWCCA and ZSCCA group activities. With only our break-in miles, cannot speak to reliability but our other BMWs (x3 M40i and 230i) have been problem-free.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70160224
- VIN
- 1FATP8UH5M5124416
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax GastoniaReviews
2021 Ford Mustang review
I bought a 2021 Mustang Mach I and couldn’t be happier. The car is everything I dreamed of. The quality of the vehicle shows each and every time I drive it. Best vehicle I’ve owned. Sales staff was the greatest in helping me get my dream car.
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$69,482
Est. $1,265/mo Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- CH11536A
- VIN
- 1G1YB3D48R5109777
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Randy Marion Chevrolet of MooresvilleReviews
Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville review
All parts are on backorder so I can?t give a rating. I have to wait to give or finish the survey regarding that question.
2024 Chevrolet Corvette review
2024 Stingray Z51 Convertible. Great buying experience and no issues in 7 months and 5K miles. Great features and and runs great with better than expected fuel mileage. Just a couple Cons - Run flat summer tires are somewhat noisy and not offered with adaptive cruise.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Skyscraper Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Cognac
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic Sport
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, Double VANOS variable valve contr
- Stock #
- D187296A
- VIN
- WBA23AT04RCR32437
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lake Norman HyundaiReviews
Lake Norman Hyundai review
Chris is always available to help me with getting my car in to be serviced. The facility is clean and has coffee available for customers.
2024 BMW 430 review
Recently purchased a 2024 4 series convertible. Love the way it looks and drives. ‘Ordered the car with the assumption that it had the cruise control and lane as dust that I was used to in my other vehicles. This car does not come standard with a front facing camera. Also does not come standard with the cruise that is what I call “radar” cruise. Just putting it out there for anyone shopping. I do love the car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- RED
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28984036
- VIN
- WBA2K1C07M7G39994
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax GastoniaReviews
2021 BMW 230 review
BMW 230i with MSport, non-runflat performance tires. Mine, a factory order, was one of the last imported into the U.S. with a manual transmission. The car is fun to drive, is a nimble handler and the engine performance is strong. The weakest link, well documented, is the electrically assisted power steering, which lacks the feedback of the older hydraulic systems. The car is a great long distance cruiser, with the cockpit a comfortable office for long drives. Also a real pleasure on winding and undulating Pennsylvania back roads. The seats are comfortable and supportive, the interior quality high.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Velocity Yellow
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.0L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- I127119B
- VIN
- 1G1YY34U355132926
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lake Norman INFINITIReviews
Lake Norman INFINITI review
Tereq and Terence were very nice and helpful. I came in looking for a Z I saw online and they showed me exactly what I came in for. Made the process of buying a car very easy and smooth.
2005 Chevrolet Corvette review
The yellow 2005 is my 8th Vette I've owned, and other than a 1966 with 427 / 4 speed convertible (should have never sold) this is my favorite. I have 72k miles, and I enjoy cruising with the top down. The only reason I would consider selling it is to get another 66 or 67 big block. A very reliable, fast car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70243553
- VIN
- 1FATP8UH4L5149354
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax GastoniaReviews
2020 Ford Mustang review
I love this car. So many mods can be done to make it your own and unique to you. Move currently produces more hp than a stock GT 350. The looks and performance are outstanding for a car in this price range. My only gripes are that occasionally one of the mirrors (actually happens on both sides just not at the same time) will go all the way in one direction until it can't go anymore then click constantly until you press that mirror and touch the manual adjust button. Then you can hit your pre set of you have one and everything will be fine. It's always when I unlock the car to get in that this happens and it's totally random. If course the dealer can never find anything wrong with it. My other gripe was that on occasion it wouldn't recognize my fob. The only way I could start the car was to lift up the cup holder mat and stick the fob in the slot. But then if I went somewhere and turned the car off, it would be fine. Again totally weird and random. Overall though, I wouldn't give this car up for anything. So much fun to drive, and the sound of that V8 exhaust just gets the blood flowing. Not to mention the all the looks you'll get from people.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Torch Red
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Dual Clutch
- Engine
- 6.2L V-8 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, prem
- Stock #
- PH2254
- VIN
- 1G1YC3D46P5102739
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Shelby HondaReviews
Shelby Honda review
From my first phone call with Avery to getting introduced to Linda in service, every person I interacted with was so helpful and kind. I won’t be going anywhere else & I am recommending all my friends here!
2023 Chevrolet Corvette review
Update from Vette Guy of Tucson, Az. I received my replacement Z-06 convertible almost exactly 2 months from the date I ordered it. It arrived exactly as ordered: Mist Red with Natural interior, Z07 Handling Package, Visible Carbon Fiber Big Aero Package, Carbon Fiber Wheels and Racing Seats. I have 800 miles on the car, so far no problems. I plan on racing the car in the September Silver State Challenge Ely, Nv. open road race. I raced the 2023 Z06 there in May, great race try it! I'm also attending the Z06 driving school in Pahrump,Nv. I did the Z51 school last year, highly recommended! Overall a big Thumbs up to Watson Chevrolet for keeping their word on getting me a replacement Z-06!
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$64,998
Est. $1,183/mo Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- TR94761M
- VIN
- 1G1YA3D42P5132617
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Randy Marion Chevrolet of MooresvilleReviews
Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville review
Ashley took great care of my repair. She worked between the service and parts departments to get me the best deal possible for my repair. She followed up at each stage of the repair process and was readily available for questions I had. Oh and I forgot to mention I was on the road between jobs and they worked me in immediately. I Highly Recommend service here.
2023 Chevrolet Corvette review
I've owned 5 Vettes in my time and I loved them all. I especially love my 2023 Stingray 3LT. It's comfortable, powerful, and an overall fun car to drive!
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$119,945
Est. $2,183/mo Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 12-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 5.5L V8 32V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- TR95456A
- VIN
- 1G1YE3D31R5609195
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Randy Marion Chevrolet of MooresvilleReviews
Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville review
Always excellent service and the sales person helped me select exactly what I was looking for.
2024 Chevrolet Corvette review
I replaced my 2019 Grand Sport with this 2024 Stingray, and while I really liked the GS I like my Stingray even more. The most succinct summary I can present of the two cars is the C7 is a muscle car and the C8 is a sports car, and I prefer the latter.
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$65,380
Est. $1,190/mo Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 60244X
- VIN
- 1G1YB3D48M5107732
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Randy Marion Chevrolet of MooresvilleReviews
Randy Marion Chevrolet of Mooresville review
Dylan Childers was my sales associate and did a fabulous job! He did not try to over-sell me and found exactly the car I described to him that I wanted!
2021 Chevrolet Corvette review
This car is definitely and upgrade from my C7! The shifting, the handling and overall driving experience is amazing for the money! So fun to drive every time I get behind the wheel!
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$95,999
Est. $1,747/mo Car Pros of Lake Norman LLC
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Sliver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.2L DOHC FSI 40-valve V10 engine
- Stock #
- 3004C
- VIN
- WUAVNAFG5CN003004
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Car Pros of Lake Norman LLCReviews
2012 Audi R8 review
A true supercar that you can drive every day. Tons of power, great handling, comfortable, gorgeous. Better stereo than I have at home. Really fun to drive. Not much luggage room, if that's important to you.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual
- Engine
- 2.5L (152) 6-cyl w/VVT
- Stock #
- 5723C
- VIN
- WBACN33481LK45723
Features
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Car Pros of Lake Norman LLCReviews
Car Pros of Lake Norman LLC review
We had a great experience purchasing a 1967 Mustang. Mr. and Mrs. Lawson were very professional, personable, and made the whole vehicle purchasing experience easy. Wish all vehicle purchases were made this easy. Thank you and we recommend Car Pros of Lake Norman for your next purchase.
2001 BMW Z3 review
Had mine 11 yrs. Bought in 2011 for 6k with 29000 mike's, yr 2002 3.0 sport , mint in siennarot red. Now has 36k miles, still mint , has a James bond theme numberplate related to "goldeneye" and wouldn't sell for 15k
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