Used sedans for sale near Grand Ledge, MI
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$20,007
Est. $362/mo LaFontaine Mitsubishi Lansing
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6LM254S
- VIN
- KMHLS4DG9SU880404
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
LaFontaine Mitsubishi LansingReviews
2025 Hyundai ELANTRA review
We are very pleased with our purchase. This is our second Hyundai and part of our purchase decision was based on excellent warranty service on our first car. This Elantra has had excellent reliability and wonderful gas mileage. Comfortable with better performance than expected. The price range for purchase was just what we needed.
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$14,943
Est. $270/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos
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- Ext. color
- Ebony Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6OS310V
- VIN
- 5XXGT4L34LG427980
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of OkemosReviews
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Okemos review
We had great service with Micheal. He helped us with two cars in a week.
2020 Kia Optima review
Love this car! Have 45,000 miles on vehicle and have only done brakes and tires… Super happy with the way it looks and responds. Most reliable car I have owned. Would happily go to another Kia after this one!
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto, 6-Spd w/Sportmatic & Active ECO System
- Engine
- 4-Cyl, 1.8 Liter
- Stock #
- 6769
- VIN
- KNAFX4A64G5555673
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Capitol Auto SalesReviews
Capitol Auto Sales review
Will definitely recommend looking here for your next used car they have great selection All salesman were awesome and open to help ladies at the desk were quick with paperwork and financing Love my Subaru WRX STi
2016 Kia Forte review
My wife bought me a 2016 as a gift yes it has a ton of miles but it runs and drives like a brand new car. We've had lots of road trips and no problems I'm 6,1 very comfortable even in the back seat I really like the trunk space
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-speed automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valv
- Stock #
- 4520
- VIN
- 1G1ZE5SX5LF015104
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CARVENTUREReviews
CARVENTURE review
I was very impressed with the professionalism, courtesy and knowledge of the service man. I will be telling everyone I looking for a car to go there.
2020 Chevrolet Malibu review
Love this car. It checked all my boxes. Very comfortable and is so quiet. It had 7,000 miles on it. It was a lease car
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- Ext. color
- Red Obsession Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Sahara Beige w/Jet Black Accents
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-speed automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 126684
- VIN
- 1G6DT5RK2L0126684
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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CARVENTUREReviews
CARVENTURE review
very honest and transparent . we had a vehicle pre-purchase inspection. the car checked out great except two tires were pretty choppy. Lucas quickly got approval from manager to replace the front brakes and rotors as part of the purchase agreement. great car deal and experience all around.
2020 Cadillac CT5 review
This suv is exactly what I was looking for. It has a great exterior and interior appearance. The ride is smooth and very comfortable. The features of this vehicle are just what I wanted.
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- Ext. color
- Graphite Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 7054T
- VIN
- 2G61N5S35F9168969
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
OK Auto MartReviews
OK Auto Mart review
OK auto mart is a great dealership with quality vehicles. The staff is very helpful and friendly.
2015 Cadillac XTS review
I’ve owned Cadillacs since 1979. This is by far the best fit for size and comfort. Not a “boat” but big enough for a family trip.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 44-41
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- M7N034888
- VIN
- 1HGCV3F24NA034888
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Capital HondaReviews
Capital Honda review
We did a quick service. They get it done within an hour. Very efficient work.
2022 Honda Accord Hybrid review
I bought my hybrid accord brand new. I got 100K miles now and not a single problem and I'm getting 47mpg. I work for a dealership and out of every sedan it's size nothing feels better to drive.
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$12,913
Est. $233/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6L5627S
- VIN
- 2C3CCAGG3JH141823
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing review
Cailey was the BEST person to work with as your spokesperson. My truck has the paint that was used least (a Greystone Metallic) in 2023. Needless to say I was worried about the match on such a large area. The paint person nailed it! I wish I could get a chance to meet him/her and say thanks personally.
2018 Chrysler 300 review
Best car I ever owned. Drove it from 12,000 miles to 207,700 miles and it's still beautiful and runs great. Take care of your car and it will take car if you. Chrystler 300 is by far the best car ever!!!
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- XC50336
- VIN
- 1G1ZD5ST8RF203267
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sundance ChevroletReviews
Sundance Chevrolet review
Dan Pahl did a great job showing the truck and options. Very detailed about plate transfer, insurance, oil changes, bed liner, topper, 4 wheel drive
2024 Chevrolet Malibu review
Very exited with the car. Test drive was perfect. Representatives were very helpful and worked with me on nearly everything. Great customer service. Thank you guys.
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 32-41
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 6T4392E
- VIN
- 5YFB4MDE2RP121433
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spartan ToyotaReviews
2024 Toyota Corolla review
Mine is an American made LE. It was bought at a time when very few stripped-down models were available. Using Toyota's parts website, I paid about 1/3 the price for options like the bumper protector, door edge guards, door trim, mud guards and all weather mats. True, it's got cheap materials and Toyota skipped even putting an engine cover to quiet it up (although, in Southern California, the engine cover can retain heat that's not as beneficial as it would be in a place further north). Regularly reaches 37 MPG combined short trips and 20-mile commutes. Longer freeway drives easily goes over 42 MPG. One of the most surprising things about this car is the OEM tires. They are solid, they maintain their air pressure over many months, unlike my friends' who also have bought new Toyotas and half much less consistent tires. The car is regularly parked outside with sun exposure and the exterior seems to hold up okay after 2 years. I did do a break-in oil change at 500 miles and I do oil changes at 5,000 miles. I need this car to last me a long time and the Toyota recommended service intervals will not lead to longevity. There are many Toyota experts who encourage even shorter intervals between oil changes based on Southern California severe driving standards. Too much traffic is considered severe driving. Something else, if this car were bought 55 miles South, in Mexico, the grade of oil would be very different. In America, 0W-8 is the official oil viscosity. In Tijuana, Baja California, 0W-20 is recommended and 5W-30 is even acceptable further south... On Toyota's own documentation! For the summer oil, I have 0W-16 put in it. The car is near the ocean and never has been exposed to anything near freezing temperatures. My friend helps me maintain the car and he gets a lot of information from a Toyota Master diagnostic technician on YouTube, "A Car Care Nut." As a final note, the optical systems that are used for safety for Toyotas have a service memo stating that their safety systems are only guaranteed if windshield replacements are done with Toyota glass and the devices calibrated with Toyota software. In car insurance, you have to show this information to your insurance company for them to approve the OEM glass and Toyota body shop work. The windshield and calibration easily runs over $2,000. I have seen those windshield companies claim that they calibrate the safety system only for it not to work in a future accident. Be your own best advocate and insist on Toyota glass and calibration. By the way, we also looked at Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi. The transmissions on the Nissan and the Mitsubishi are garbage, the Honda has so many systems to save fuel that negatively affect the engine, Toyota's reliability is often because they choose not to do risky fuel saving software settings.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Underground
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 46-46
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- eCVT
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- 6T0987A
- VIN
- 4T1DBADK7TU547823
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Spartan ToyotaReviews
Spartan Toyota review
Although a new vehicle continuing 28 years of excellent customer service….Service Writer, Mr. Terry Moubray and Service Technicians Mr. James Defrost, Mr.Terry Barnard….were OUTSTANDING as expected. Just a great service staff. That is why I purchased another vehicle from Spartan. Always dependable quality service.
2026 Toyota Camry review
This is the car to have for its segment. It’s beautifully designed. It’s reliable. It’s great on gas. I’m getting 43 mpg. It’s actually fast too with its torquey electric motors assisting its bullet proof 2.5 liter four cylinder. Comfortable leather interior is gorgeous.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl White Tricoat
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT with Xtronic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- 6T4495E
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DV3RN387629
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Spartan ToyotaReviews
Spartan Toyota review
As always, we got excellent service for our oil change, tire rotation, and full check-up on our 2023 Corolla hybrid. We love our car and trust Spartan to take good care of it.
2024 Nissan Altima review
Great mileage and very nice interior. Lotsa stuff but sadly only drivers window is auto. Wheels are terrible. They look great but very hard to clean. Good trunk space and nice seats. Having problems with backup camera it looks very foggy. Had it back to dealer twice, no luck. No CD player.. big downgrade.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Meteorite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- XJ52228
- VIN
- 1HGCY1F38PA012528
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sundance ChevroletReviews
Sundance Chevrolet review
As usual, Ron Clark and his service crew provide the BEST service. It's always a pleasure to catch up with Ron who is always like talking to a good friend. The service performed is always spot on and done in a timely manner.
2023 Honda Accord review
Good car good buying process just wobbles a little at around 70-80 mph while on highway. Might just be a small alignment with only my car may not be a consistent problem.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gentian Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black/Bordeaux Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- UP10862
- VIN
- WP0AB2Y11LSA50313
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Serra Auto CampusReviews
2020 Porsche Taycan review
The Porsche Taycan is a work of art in terms of comfort, performance and overall driving dynamics. The handling and acceleration are truly something to behold and are just on another level from most other vehicles on the road.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Storm Blue
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- J51897
- VIN
- 1N4AL3AP9JC257916
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sundance ChevroletReviews
Sundance Chevrolet review
Excellent salesman, Joe Hanks, smooth process in the car experience highly recommend! Up front no pressure, went above and beyond. Love our new car, Definitely make Sundance your first stop for a new car!
2018 Nissan Altima review
If you are looking for used Nissan call MsIce and she will hook you up ask for her by name for sure Ice tea Ms trotter
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- MS22242A
- VIN
- 3FA6P0H74LR129070
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Shaheen ChevroletReviews
Shaheen Chevrolet review
Shaheen is a wonderful dealership. They want to serve their customers, and explain everything clearly and patiently. They make you feel like you matter. From start to finish, the process was clear and efficient.
2020 Ford Fusion review
I have always driven a Ford and had a 2012 Ford Fusion SE, and drove it to 266,000 miles. My 2020 Fusion Titanium is awesome!!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Raven
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- AX51403
- VIN
- 1G6AA5RA2E0148493
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Sundance ChevroletReviews
Sundance Chevrolet review
Easy to deal with. I didn't buy a car. I decided to stay with My paid for car.
2014 Cadillac ATS review
I actually purchased my 2014 ATS 2.0T awd Luxury on eBay in Sep of 2019. The car had 55k and I won the auction at $8400! So for me, this was, and remains the best purchase I’ve ever made. Despite having a salvage title, the car looked great, and performed flawlessly. I’m currently at 112500 miles and I’ve only had to replace the radiator expansion tank (common issue easily resolved for less than $150 and under an hour DIY. My experience was $88 parts and 30 minutes to replace.). When it came time for brake pad replacement, I decided to switch out the 4 rotors for drilled/slotted, but this was just to get a sportier look, all it really needed was the brake pads replaced. I’ve changed the oil every 4 - 5k miles with Mobil1 full synthetic. Just remembered that I had to replace the CUE screen as well, this was $120 parts and 90 minutes DIY. Plenty of YouTube videos to walk anyone through it. As of right now, the automatic transmission is shifting somewhat hard, both up and down, and this seems to come and go. My plan is to have a local shop do a transmission flush and replace the filter. Hopefully that works. The other issue that seems to come and go is the mixing box for the front passenger vents, sometimes it only blows hot air. Overall, I’ve been very happy with my ATS. At the time I purchased it I was just simply looking for a somewhat sporty all-wheel-drive vehicle so I could go visit my son in Colorado during snowboarding season. My car is made several trips up there and handles excellent in the snow. Overall, I love the look of the car from every angle. My example is Red Obsession Tintcoat with Black wheels. I deleted the chrome trim around the windows using plasti dip. This was a personal preference, I then added chrome, spike style lug, nuts, lol to accent the door handles. This car has been wonderful to me and these five years of ownership. Pros: Appearance Performance (Beat a 2017 Hemi Charger equipped with exhaust and several bolt ones.) Reliability Brand Recognition Comfort for driver and FRONT passenger Cons; Premium Fuel. (It says recommended, but the consensus from all the owners forums is to only use 91 minimum. Standard headlights weren’t enough for me. I replaced with LEDs for under $100 on Amazon. Rear passenger access/egress and comfort is lacking, despite having a four door sedan. No spare tire. Sticker price of 40 K when new in 2014 seems more than a little high, definitely worth picking up a used example. Maybe you’ll get as lucky as I did.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black/Rock Gray Stitching
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic S tronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 6T4521E
- VIN
- WAUAUDGYXRA102325
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Spartan ToyotaReviews
Spartan Toyota review
The maintenance center of spartan Toyota is excellent. I have used them for many years and never had a negative experience there. They are efficient, explain every step, and I have never had a problem with their quality of work.
2024 Audi A3 review
I've only had this car for a few weeks and drove it a total of 5 times and put well under 50 miles on it, so my review is limited. Thus far I have not had any issues with the car. Hopefully, it remains so.
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- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
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- Jet Black
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
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- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- J52234
- VIN
- 1G1ZD5ST1LF005072
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
2020 Chevrolet Malibu review
All the feel and features of a high priced luxury car without the high price! Chevy did a nice job with the attention to detail and creature comforts!
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$4,309
Est. $78/mo LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing
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- Ext. color
- Gold Mist Metallic
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- Neutral
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.8L V6 12V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- 6L5655V
- VIN
- 2G4WD582681373377
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- Heated Seats
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- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
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- Leather Seats
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LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of LansingReviews
LaFontaine Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and Fiat of Lansing review
Great team to work with had my Jeep that I lease from them recalled. They dropped me off and picked me back up when it was ready. Very good service.
2008 Buick LaCrosse review
Having a great time with my Buick lacrosse 2008, great 👍 car! Running good , took it to VA and Morehead and other places.keeping it in good condition
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- Ext. color
- Radiant Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Light Platinum
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
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- 6-Speed Automatic
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- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- XC51845
- VIN
- 1G6AX5SX4E0186238
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
2014 Cadillac CTS review
One of my favorite cars, so cool and distinctive. Great performance and regular gas. Love the v6 turbo too. Fun to drive and economical fir a luxury car.
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- Ext. color
- Black Raven
- Int. color
- Jet Black
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- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-32
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- JC51478
- VIN
- 1G6DG5RK0S0120188
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Backup Camera
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
2025 Cadillac CT4 review
Really enjoy the CT4 purchased for the wife. Was looking for an entry level luxury car after driving mid size trucks for the past 20 years. Not to many bells and whistles to figure out the technology components are just basic and all I need for functionality. Could not be happier!
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- Silver Ice Metallic
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- Dark Atmosphere / Medium Atmosphere
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- FWD
- MPG
- 30-40
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- Gasoline
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- 6-Speed Automatic
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- 1.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- XC51833
- VIN
- 1G1BG5SM0G7239799
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
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- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
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- Apple CarPlay®
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- USB Port
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Backup Camera
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- Leather Seats
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
Sundance Chevrolet review
I had to make an unexpected purchase of a new vehicle. Let me just say I was nervous and stressed, but "Ed. F" was very patient with me and worked hard jumping through hoops to make this purchase and transaction happen smoothly for me. Thank you so much ED! I will be back for any future vehicle I need! To all others looking for a vehicle, hookup with ED!
2016 Chevrolet Cruze review
I've had my Cruze 6 months now and I think its a great car. It's my first GM, and I am glad I gave it a shot. Great features and excellent on gas
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- Silver Ice Metallic
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- Dark Titanium / Jet Black
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-30
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- Gasoline
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- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- V52088
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- 2G11Z5SA0H9107623
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
2017 Chevrolet Impala review
I've owned Chevy Impala's for many years. Had one with a 3.9 motor that was running like new with 179,000 miles on it,till someone hit. Next one had a 3.5 motor and it ran amazing. But I been looking for a very very long time for this Impala and found one,so I grabbed it. The 3.5 I had before this one had 150,000 miles ran perfect. The one has the 3.6 motor. Hope it works out the same. Love it
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- Ext. color
- Currant Red
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- Black
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- L15623
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD9RE767564
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- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Backup Camera
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- Leather Seats
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Kia of LansingReviews
Kia of Lansing review
Jon Bowels was very helpful and greeting. He knows how to do his job well. And he always takes care if his customers. Always friendly and i would always go back to Kia dealership because of his help.
2024 Kia Forte review
I bought my Forte LXS in Feb of 2024 and i've driven 9,000 miles on it so far. it's been great and i prefer this over a Corolla or a Camry. on the highway i sometimes get fuel economy in the low 50's mpg and on average i get around 37 mpg combined. not bad at all. i bought this for $21K after taxes and registration. the value can't be beat imo.
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$25,803
Est. $466/mo LaFontaine Mitsubishi Lansing
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
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- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 51-53
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- 6LM284P
- VIN
- 4T1C31AK3NU581287
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LaFontaine Mitsubishi LansingReviews
2022 Toyota Camry Hybrid review
Best car. Gold standard. Thank you Toyota for this quality and experience! Hybrid more comfortable and reliable. If you like suv take rav4. Very soft and comfy.
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- Snow White Pearl
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- Black
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- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-33
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC
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- KB22336A
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- KNAG64J76S5370887
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Shaheen ChevroletReviews
Shaheen Chevrolet review
We received excellent customer service. Our salesman, Logan Willbanks was outstanding. The entire car buying process can be stressful, not this time. Logan was extremely helpful and made the process easy.
2025 Kia K5 review
I only had the car 1 month but drove it to Florida (all around) and back and put on 3,500 miles. My car is a GT-Line, Wolf Grey with the Red interior, Bose speakers etc. The car is a real pleasure to drive. Very Quiet on the road, and my mileage exceeded the 37 mpg epa rating, and that’s while maintaining speeds of 80 mph with 2 people and fully loaded with luggage. Little if any wind noise. Note that at times I hit much higher speeds not knowing since it was so quiet & smooth. The engine RPM was mostly between 2 to 2.1 at 80mph. The power of the 2.5 liter is good, and slightly better than the 2019 Camry I had, which was a very good car as well. The Bose system sounded great, and all the alert sensors and some other sensors like keeping your car steering between the lines worked very well, but I preferred to turn that off most of the time. If you turn on your turning signals to changing lanes, and a car is present, not only does your side mirrors alert you, but you’ll get sound notices and the steering wheel will vibrate. Triple redundancy. The handling is very good, and secure, brakes are excellent and has a very good feel to them. A very important note is, I appreciate that the 2.5 engine has both Direct & Port Injectors on each cylinder. Port injectors will help cleaned the valves and clear any carbon build up. This is the same arrangement my Camry 2019 had which greatly reduces or eliminates carbon buildup in these Direct Inject Engines. The Nav system worked flawlessly and quickly. I also love you can remotely start your car with the key FOB (No additional charge) or with Kia Connect though Kia connect is only free the 1st 3 years. Also, happily, it doesn’t have the stop & start engine control which can cause more wear on your starter motor with little gain on MPG. The seats are very comfortable as I can attest driving 12 hours straight on my first stop. The car’s 8 spd auto shifted smoothly in all conditions. Plenty of room inside. Lot of storage in the console area for incidentals and drinks. I enjoyed the Panoramic roof. The negative was the Combine toggle Climate & Media control is a bit counter intuitive and sometimes causes more effort to control. Trunk space is good, as I had lots of luggage. The car feels solid & hopefully reliable down the line. The only other negative which is because I do my own oil changes etc, is this car takes a Cartridge oil filter (Not spin on) and takes 6.1 quarts of oil, (Not 5 qts) but I knew this well before I bought it but it’s location and design is good. So it’s not a real big deal, but this will cost a little more for oil changes. Recommended oil chg is 7,500 but I’ll be doing it every 5 to 6K for sure. BTW recommended oil is 0 -30W. Based on my limited time but very heavy usage I highly recommend this car, and I really enjoy driving it. Very sporty looking.
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- Ext. color
- Brilliant Silver Metallic
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- Graphite
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 32-40
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- Gasoline
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- CVT
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- 1.6L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
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- 6T4418E
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- 3N1CN8EV3RL822781
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Spartan ToyotaReviews
Spartan Toyota review
Very happy with service on my vehicle. Staff kept me informed of the progress and actually completed the work ahead of schedule. Cost was as estimated and within expectations for a dealership. Will continue to use them for service needs.
2024 Nissan Versa review
Good safety features. Reasonable price. Gives what need from a car. Like the way it looks. The thing it lacks is sunroof. That's all. Bye.
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- Black Clearcoat
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- Black
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- Front-wheel Drive
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- 23-36
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- Gasoline
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- 9-Speed Automatic
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- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
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- XC51017
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- 1C3CCCFB2FN632349
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Sundance ChevroletReviews
2015 Chrysler 200 review
PhilC: 2015 Chrysler 200 Lmt. (010924: 88657m) I love the car, hands down, a "true legend"...extremely reliable, rides nice and smooth, great wheelbase for NE winter season, have not had to put much expense-wise in to replacement parts since July 2017 purchse @ 48500m. Emissions Recall taken care of no cost at a DCJ dealership...top two fav. features are: the rounded dash near int. windshield and the OEM rims...genuine MOPAR, all the way! i wish for the resons given that they could have extended production by another year or two...three years was not long enough...Thank You so much 'FiatChrysler'...as well, Jeff Hammoud and Christian Farcas...an awesome car if there ever was...again, a "true legend"! Thank you to all involved...many more miles ahead with my 200 Lmt....
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
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- Dark Gray
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-36
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
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- 6T4549E
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- KMHL64JA9RA409675
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Spartan ToyotaReviews
Spartan Toyota review
Initial service on my new Corolla. In and out with a car wash in less than an hour. Excellent. Friendly and courteous. Recommend.
2024 Hyundai SONATA review
Hi All! I picked up my Sonata SEL w/ Convenience about 4 months ago and man is it pretty. I get compliments all the time. Anyhow, I have just under 2,000 miles on the odo. and figured it would be a good time to leave some first impressions and what it's been like to live with along with some good and not-so-good experiences I've had. First the GOOD: Like I said, it looks amazing. In my opinion, the best looking midsize sedan on the market and everyone seems to love the design. The refinement levels are amazing. Hyundai did an impeccable job quieting this sedan down from the previous version (I had a 2020 model prior). I notice a rather significant difference at highway speed and just cruising around town in overall noise levels. Super pleased here. The ride quality isn't as harsh as the previous version either. Overall, it feels softer over bumps and potholes barely make it through. Yet, handling is still great albeit maybe a bit less sharper around corners. I think this is a great sacrifice though. The prior gen. seemed to have a rather jarring ride in my opinion. In typical Hyundai fashion, the lane keeping/lane departure assist along with dynamic cruise control works flawlessly, so much better than both Honda and Toyota, and I've driven them all. Highway trips are an absolute breeze with the Sonata. Now, the NOT so good: The door handle sensor only works occasionally. Reaching behind the door handle with the key in my pocket should theoretically unlock the door, but it does so only about 50% of the time. I find myself reaching back and forth to and from behind the handle, and maybe on the 2nd or 3rd or 4th attempt, the door will unlock. Watching from afar, it probably looks idiotic like, is this dude afraid to touch his car, what's going on!? Odd. There's a rattle in the passenger door and is REALLY heard when playing music, even at low to moderate volume. I'll get this checked out when my 1st maintenance visit comes around. The Carplay screen is WAY too bright at night. Like, blinding bright. I can adjust it down to the lowest illumination level and it's still pretty bright, but it also dims the speedometer screen! Then, during daylight, it's far too dim, so I have to go in and turn it back up to max illumination. There's only one illumination level from what I can tell and it controls both the speedometer screen AND the infotainment screen. I wish there was a way to lower the brightness of the infotainment screen while keeping the speedo screen brighter along with greater variances between day and night levels. All in all, I'm extremely happy with the 2024 Sonata. I highly recommend it over Accord (lacking features, horrible road noise, pricy) and perhaps even the Camry, although the new 2025 version seems to be pretty killer.
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$68,912
Est. $1,245/mo Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake Villa
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- Daytona Gray Pearl Effect
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- Black
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- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.0L V8 32V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- LV765
- VIN
- WAULSAF87PN013283
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- Heated Seats
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Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake VillaReviews
Guaranteed Motor Cars Lake Villa review
I traded my BMW for an Audi here and felt comfortable during the entirety of the transaction. They have a ton of nice cars in great condition and have great financing options. Highly recommend.
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- Blue Vortex Metallic
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- Red
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-24
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- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic w/OD
- Engine
- 5L V-8 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE variable valve contro
- Stock #
- 5164
- VIN
- JTHBP1BL9GA000664
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- DVD Player
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Autos of ChicagoReviews
Autos of Chicago review
I am beyond thrilled with my 2023 Maserati Grecale from Autos of Chicago. Chris provided exceptional used car dealer services throughout the process. He was highly professional, transparent, and completely pressure-free. I strongly recommend visiting this dealership for your next vehicle purchase.
2016 Lexus GS F review
I bought my GS F about a year ago and have been enjoying it ever since, adding about 12,000 miles already. What a great all-around sports sedan that can be used for everything from commuting to work to track days to road trips! The power from the naturally aspirated V8 is plenty of fun, especially when you put the car in it's various sport modes, while in "normal" mode the car drives like any other Lexus sedan. Handling in the twisties is phenomenal with the TVD (torque vectoring differential) which comes standard on the GS F. Mark Levinson audio is a must; this system blows other manufacturer's "premium audio" options out of the water, including B&W, Burmeister, and other "high end" brands used in Mercedes, BMW, and the like. One thing to look out for if you're buying one of these cars used is the carbon fiber trim on the interior likes to start delaminating. It is a fairly common issue with these cars, and it seems like the hotter climates tend to cause it to happen more frequently than not. This is a very expensive fix if you want to use the OEM parts through the dealer. Summary: if you're considering a GS F, just do it, or at least go drive one. You likely won't be disappointed. This car is a great value for the money and it can feel like you're driving something much more expensive than it is.