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Used Subaru cars for sale near Thousand Oaks, CA

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Vehicle information

Ext. color: Gold
Int. color: Warm Ivory
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 25-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
Stock #: M991823
VIN: 4S4BSANCXF3286244

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System, Power Liftgate
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, CD Player, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Brothers Motors LLC review

They went out of thier way to put us in a quality vehical

They went out of thier way to put us in a quality vehical at a fair price . Even called us a few days after to make sure we were satisfied

2015 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited review

I bought used in 2023 a 2015 premium with 214k miles.

I bought used in 2023 a 2015 premium with 214k miles. I drove it 6k miles and only replaced the CV axle, this isn't impressive sounding but it was going through constant , aggressive off reading due to the rough road conditions I had to use because I live in the rocky mountains. I got in a rollover a 60 mph and I had no injuries, airbags kept me safe. Fuel economy was dismal with 21 in the city and 24 in the highway, safety and reliability are top tier, power was surprisingly adequate, the Bluetooth was appreciated and all the safety tech and other tech was very useable and helpful and accurate. Love the car would buy it again if I had the chance

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal White Pearl
Int. color: Gray
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 22-29
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic CVT
Engine: 2.4L H4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
Stock #: Y462197A
VIN: 4S4BTGLD3P3190260

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Navigation System, Power Liftgate
Entertainment: Bluetooth®, HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Subaru Santa Monica review

Suburu of Santa monicac

Great , all around nice people trying to make my experience the most satisfying as possible

2023 Subaru Outback Onyx Edition XT review

Two things that need to be improved

Turn signals do not have a loud sound. They are very low My 2016 Outback has nice loud turn signals. You cannot turn your radio off. The only way not to hear it is to put the sound real low. Two major complaints I have

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal White Pearl
Int. color: Saddle Brown
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 26-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Lineartronic CVT
Engine: 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
Stock #: 568941
VIN: JF2SKAXC5LH568941

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Heated Steering Wheel, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System, Power Liftgate, Remote Start
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, CD Player, Premium Sound System, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, LED Headlights, Lane Departure Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Wholesale Investments Inc - Canoga Park review

Very painless process and friendly staff

The staff was very friendly and helpful. They made sure I was comfortable with my choice from the car I wanted to the payments I was comfortable with.

2020 Subaru Forester Touring review

This car is so comfortable!

This car is so comfortable! The driver sits up high, with great sight lines in all directions. The seats are comfortable. The features are very intuitive. My car has automatic door locks so when I walk up to the car with my key fob, put my hand on the door handle the doors unlock. It has automatic headlight dimmer which works great. It has plenty of power for freeway acceleration. All wheel drives makes it great in snow. I’m very happy with this car.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: White
Int. color: BLACK
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 26-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 28398320
VIN: JF2SKAXC4LH481435

Features

Convenience: Heated Steering Wheel, Navigation System
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Lane Departure Warning
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

CarMax Oxnard review

Late model Mercedes

Richard was AMAZING. The process was quick and efficient and I got the Exact Car that I wanted!!!! Loved the fact that I didn't have to HAGGLE over the price of the car or my trade-in!

2020 Subaru Forester Touring review

Happy Forester Owner

The Forester is the first SUV I ever owned. It has had a few issues, but the dealership, Kenny Ross in Irwin Pa, has always been top notch in customer service. First issue was the orignal tires went bald after only 10,000 miles. I called Kenny Ross and they said they would contact corporate. Got 4 new tires at no charge. Next issue I did not even know I had. Took it in for an oil change and they tell me I need a new CVT. Didn't know I had a problem. No charge again. Last issue was a radio that kept giving an error message and would not work. Took four visits to isolate the problem, but now have a new radio that brings in more stations. Again for free. Highly recommend the bumper to bumper warranty. Money well spent.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Gray
Int. color: GRAY
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 26-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 28398325
VIN: JF2SKAJC0PH447409

Features

Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Lane Departure Warning

Reviews

CarMax Oxnard review

Amazing Customer Service

Outstanding customer service! I have been working with them overseas to prepare for a buy in August and it has been amazing and they are really helpful!

2023 Subaru Forester Sport review

LOVE this car, maybe a little biased since this is my 5th

LOVE this car, maybe a little biased since this is my 5th Forester, my 2nd Wilderness. My first Wilderness was totaled in a head-on collision when a young driver spilled coffee and veered into my lane and struck me head-on. That was my 1st Subaru Forester Wilderness and IT SAVED MY LIFE. Full curtain all-around airbag deployment with a roll, the Wilderness coming to rest on it's right side, me still strapped into seatbelt, and the Subaru automatic crash notification with a live person on the speakers asking me if I was ok and needed 911! Smoke still coming from the airbag deployments, and there is a live person coming over the speakers asking me if I'm ok. It was surreal. SUBARU FORESTER WILDERNESS SAVED MY LIFE! TYVM Subaru! LOVE this car! Gets 25+ MPG with conservative driving, a great ride and suspension, superior traction in mud and snow, load-out practically anything/rack bikes (or whatever on the roof racks), sleep in the back with ample room, superior rear-gate lift mechanism with memory, seats super-comfortable and easily adjustable, solid rear-seat leg-room, easy rear-seat fold-downs for massive cargo area that takes my full HVAC tool load-out for servicing ice baths all over the NorthEast US. A great value, especially CPO with +10K mileage (vs. new) MONEY WELL SPENT! SUBARU FOR LIFE

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Silver
Int. color: BLACK
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 25-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 28371056
VIN: 4S4BSAFCXF3350765

Features

Entertainment: Bluetooth®, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Tow Hitch
Safety: Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Lane Departure Warning

Reviews

CarMax Oxnard review

Carmax is transparent

Car Max seemed very straightforward and transparent. Pricing is no haggle set pricing. I appreciate the excellent customer service and they appreciated my time. Carmax has simplified the process.

2015 Subaru Outback Premium review

Best car for my needs.

I bought my 2015 3.6 Limited Outback in 2019. Had 59,000 mi on it. I have driven it 100,000 mi with a small amount of maintenance. Just replaced HID HEADLIGHT BULB…$300. Ouch! After sliding sideways down interstate in my full size van, I decided to research AWD and pick. I am so happy with my Outback, it performs so well in ice and snow. I like to go out and test its ability. At least I know what it will do on bad roads. 160,000 mi and drives like a new one. New tires are always a good help for wheels on pavement.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal Black Silica
Int. color: Gray
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZF502817L-S
VIN: JF2SKAJC6SH406890

Reviews

Subaru Sherman Oaks review

Great customer care!

Subaru of Sherman Oaks took great care of my car's needs and did it in a timely manner.

2025 Subaru Forester Wilderness review

My first Subaru although each of my kids had a used one

My first Subaru although each of my kids had a used one as their first cars. Very well made, It is quite comfortable but I wish the seats went up a little bit more. I bought the Premium model and it has everything you could ask for. Handles great, has more than enough oomph, and I am averaging around 26.5 mpg in mostly city driving. Took a 200 mile out and back trip, and averaged 34.8 mpg. I will certainly buy another Subaru when it is time, usually every 2-3 years.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Magnetite Gray Metallic
Int. color: Carbon Black
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual w/OD
Engine: Intercooled Turbo Premium Unleaded H-4 2.4 L/146
Stock #: 251599SA
VIN: JF1VBAF6XP9803749

Reviews

Kirby Subaru of Ventura review

Love Our New Crosstrek!

Love Our New Crosstrek! It’s #3 and we couldn’t be happier. Another great job by Ventura Subaru

2023 Subaru WRX Premium review

As advertised - a fun car to drive

About 1300 miles into a new 2023 WRX Premium. Car is a blast to drive and mine also has the Harmon Kardon sound system upgrade (very nice audio). Not as creature comfortable as my past BMWs but definitely comfortable. Premium only came with cloth seats so added seat covers. MT is the only way to go! An honest fun to drive car at a reasonable price.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Magnetite Gray
Int. color: Gray
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZF503104L-S
VIN: JF2SLDBC1SH588575

Reviews

Subaru Sherman Oaks review

Subaru Outback Service

Always a friendly welcome, Service done in the stated time, All service items completed and work well done by qualified mechanics.

2025 Subaru Forester Premium review

Experienced zero issues in doing business with Crown

Experienced zero issues in doing business with Crown Subaru. They were professional, efficient, and knowledgeable. The transaction was business like, and the personnel just about perfect.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Black
Int. color: BLACK
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 24-32
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 28094730
VIN: JF2SJAFC9GH547343

Features

Entertainment: HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera

Reviews

2016 Subaru Forester 2.5I Premium review

In love with this vehicle

I've never owned a Subaru before but after purchasing the Forester, I may never own anything but a Subaru again! I love the Eyesight Drivers Assistant that it came equipped with. I can see why this car has one of the best safety ratings out there. The interior is very open, spacious, & comfortable and the panoramic sunroof is amazing! It drives and handles like a dream. I would recommend this car to anyone. You won't be disappointed!

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Gray
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 26-33
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 28493110
VIN: JF2SKADCXPH426188

Features

Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera, Lane Departure Warning

Reviews

2023 Subaru Forester Premium review

Likes: spacious interior despite modest exterior

Likes: spacious interior despite modest exterior dimensions, easy to maneuver, great visibility all around, comfortable ride, good traction, handling, and braking, nice interior finish on sport model, strong steering responsive headlights yet they don't blind opposing traffic, very good optional Harmon sound system, numerous effective safety features, low insurance premiums, adequate acceleration..a few cons: actual economy slightly under EPA estimates, seat may be a bit too firm for some but easy to address by adding a thin seat cushion, mandatory sunroof on all but the base model..I wish Subaru would just make that a single option..rough engine start-stop ..however I disable it each time I start engine so it can be a non issue...no reliability issues yet but since this has a cvt and fairly complex safety features, long term reliability is unknown..

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal White Pearl
Int. color: Gray w/Orange Stitching
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 27-34
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Lineartronic CVT
Engine: 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
Stock #: P01355A
VIN: JF2GTHMC3P8212378

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Remote Start
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, CD Player, HomeLink, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, LED Headlights, Lane Departure Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

Santa Monica Ford review

Service

It was my first time at your new location. Everything went smoothly and everyone was friendly and helpful to me and explained things is a way I understood. I believe my service person was Arturo. He was great and so helpful to me and pointed out a couple of things I didn't know, so I am totally grateful to him and the dealership. I will be back for my next service appointment for sure!

2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited review

Great dependable car.

Great dependable car. comfortable driving, the 6 speed trans is awesome(same as in the wrx) so stop talking stupid. People who don't like this doesn't know how to drive a manual. handled great in snow, and remember you are controlling this car not the computer

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Cosmic Blue
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZD502655L-S
VIN: 4S4BTADC9S3266320

Reviews

Subaru Sherman Oaks review

service review

Great customer service, friendly and professional. They explain the work being done on the car.

2025 Subaru Outback Premium review

An excellent vehicle for the bat s.

An excellent vehicle for the bat s..t crazy fast urban interstates that are all cracked and busted that I commute daily - soaks up road imperfections very well - excellent visibility quality fit and finish . surprisingly well equipped - fantastic safety + features and my first car with turning headlights and water proof seats- cool machine all around. highly recommend.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Blue
Int. color: GRAY
Drivetrain: Four-wheel Drive
MPG: 25-28
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Gas
Stock #: 27927993
VIN: JF2SKAMC9PH430197

Features

Convenience: Navigation System
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, HomeLink, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof, Tow Hitch
Safety: Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Lane Departure Warning
Seating: Leather Seats

Reviews

CarMax Canoga Park review

Good Experience.

Good Experience. Good Service. Helpful Representatives. Able to answer all my questions. Assisted in transferring to Arizona Carmax.

2023 Subaru Forester Wilderness review

Safety first

This is our second Forester. Our first was a 2011 Premium we bought as a CPO in 2014 and unfortunately went through the headache of excessive oil consumption within months of buying it. Subaru did eventually replace the engine short block on their dime, but only after repeated oil consumption tests and being told by the dealer service department that it was within normal limits. Calling Subaru of America was the only way we got it resolved. I was impressed that they approved the service, and that's the reason we bought another Subaru. We also have a 2018 Outback Premium in our garage--no oil consumption, and no major issues except replacing the radio for failed lighting behind the volume knob and a minor leak in the oil pan (no dripping underneath the car though) at about 42k miles. We like our 2023 Forester Sport overall, and first and foremost we like its excellent safety ratings and features. I will say the ride is much firmer than our Outback which is only a couple hundred pounds heavier. Wish it had a little more storage in the center console and beneath the climate controls. We look forward to many years of driving with the Forester (and our Outback). Based on our experience, I do feel getting a Subaru-backed extended warranty is worth it for peace of mind (we bought them for our first Forester and now our Outback and both eventually paid for themselves). You DON'T have to buy the warranty when you purchase the vehicle. Call different dealers in your state and ask for their price on an extended warranty for your vehicle--we saved hundreds of dollars by doing this. You have until your manufacturer warranty expires to add an extended warranty.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Ice Silver
Int. color: Black
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZC502503L-S
VIN: JF2SLSRD9SH413901

Reviews

Subaru Sherman Oaks review

Service

Good service. No complaints. Will return for service.

2025 Subaru Forester Limited Hybrid review

I have had a 21, 23 and now a 25 Subaru Forester Premium

I have had a 21, 23 and now a 25 Subaru Forester Premium and over the years they have gotten better. I didn’t think I would like the large screen but now after two weeks of driving it, I’m loving it. It is a safe and reliable vehicle for small families and seniors like me.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crystal White Pearl
Int. color: Gray
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZF503476L-S
VIN: JF2SLDHC7SH596655

Reviews

Subaru Sherman Oaks review

Exceptional Service

I had a service appointment and was attended promptly by Peter. I didn?t have to wait long for a courtesy car to drive me home while my car was being serviced. Peter kept me updated on the service being done and approximate time it will finish. Then he promptly arranged for a car to pick me up from my house back to the dealer to get my car. Very efficient! All the staff are friendly. My car was washed and clean when I got it. As always, I received Exceptional service from Subaru Sherman Oaks service center.

2025 Subaru Forester Sport review

My biggest problem with the forester is the infotainment

My biggest problem with the forester is the infotainment system and the tom tom navigation. The infotainment is laggy at best. It can take two seconds per press to respond. And the tom tom? What? Did tom tom give Subaru a deal on 80s technologies. Recently I asked for a dollar tree and it changed it to 03. I have asked for vorhees and it kept trying to change it to Glendale? xxx. It is not barely usable, it is absolutely unuseable, that part of this car is a xxx.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Magnetite Gray
Int. color: Slate Black
Transmission: Variable
Engine: 2.5L H-4 cyl
Stock #: ZD503163L-S
VIN: 4S4BTACC7S3283926

Reviews

2025 Subaru Outback Premium review

I have had big trucks and SUV I now have a 2025 Outback

I have had big trucks and SUV I now have a 2025 Outback wilderness, I had to drive this outback a while to get use to it, it was hard for me to get comfortable in this outback because it sat so low, for 60 years I had a vehicle sat up high and little more room in the front seat area,I got use to it, especially at the gas station with mpg I am getting , I am getting really right around 24 to 25 Mpg I am happy.Now that I have driven this outback for about 2 months I am happy, and in the Outback Wilderness it has the best AWD on the market not 4 wheel drive, never never let anybody tell you it is the same as 4 wheel drive If they do leave the dealership on the spot. I am happy I would buy again as long the price is 40k Or less if the price crosses the 45 k I would have gotten a Toyota 4 runner, not the 2025 models but the 2024 or 2023, remember these models are around 17 mpg with 23 gallon tanks with about 275 to 300 miles per tank

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Magnetite Gray Metallic
Int. color: Slate Black
Transmission: AUTOMATIC
Stock #: R3281329A
VIN: 4S4BTAFC4R3281329

Reviews

DCH Subaru of Thousand Oaks review

Juan is amazing and easy to work with.

Juan is amazing and easy to work with. Takes his time and explains everything so that I know what he’s talking about it .. 😁

2024 Subaru Outback Premium review

The Subaru Outback is one of the best cars on the road.

The Subaru Outback is one of the best cars on the road. This car is definitely worth every penny that it costs. Performance at reliability cannot be underestimated. The company stands behind its warranty in every way. It’s like having a more expensive car without the hassle and expense!

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Elemental Red Pearl
Int. color: Black
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
Fuel type: Electric
Transmission: Automatic
Engine: Electric
Stock #: D3750
VIN: JTMABABA1PA025732

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Keyless Start, Navigation System, Remote Start
Entertainment: Android Auto®, Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, Satellite Radio, USB Port, WiFi Hotspot
Exterior: Alloy Wheels
Safety: Automatic Emergency Braking, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitor, Brake Assist, LED Headlights, Lane Departure Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Stability Control

Reviews

Universal Mitsubishi review

The car buying experience at Universal Mitsubishi.

The car buying experience at Universal Mitsubishi. Was amazing. The sales agent was very professional and pleasant to work with. I will absolutely recommend this to a friend.

2023 Subaru Solterra Premium review

I bought the car at Sabaru of Englewood.

I bought the car at Sabaru of Englewood. First the car didn't came with the originals tires. I asked the seller if the car qualified for the $7000. 00 insentive and I thrust them. The car did not qualify for the gov. incentive because it was built outside the US. The sonterra is a very reliable vehicle. We like it a lot.

Vehicle information

Ext. color: Crimson Red Pearl
Int. color: Ivy
Drivetrain: All-wheel Drive
MPG: 25-32
Fuel type: Gasoline
Transmission: Automatic CVT
Engine: 2.5L H4 16V MPFI DOHC
Stock #: C8255
VIN: 4S4BSANC9J3224889

Features

Convenience: Adaptive Cruise Control, Heated Seats, Keyless Entry, Power Liftgate
Entertainment: Apple CarPlay®, Bluetooth®, CD Player, Premium Sound System, Satellite Radio
Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Roof Rack, Sunroof/Moonroof
Safety: Backup Camera, Brake Assist, Lane Departure Warning, Stability Control
Seating: Leather Seats, Memory Seat

Reviews

Rydell Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review

Best dealership in town

KYLE MCDUFFIE Was amazing. Give that man a raise. He was kind, professional, knew everything and yet he was calm. Explained everything. We all need a Kyle in every dealership across the globe. Thank you Kyle. My family loves you.

2018 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited review

Awesome, but not perfect.

I think for the most part, I like my car. I have had a couple issues, one of them is probably not the cars fault, (but seeing other people have the same issue, it makes me wonder) I now have 50k miles on it and in that time I have only had to replace the battery and tires, to be expected on a 6 year old car. (and windshield) The windshield is the questionable item. It seemed to crack out of nowhere and I thought I must have gotten a small rock chip while driving down the highway and just didn't see it until it started to crack. So I replaced it at a cost of almost $1000. However, I am on an Outback form and it seems to be a common complaint with outback owners of this year, having the windshield crack out of nowhere. Could it be the frame design? Maybe, but it does seem suspicious that others have had the same issue. One other problem I have had is if I let my car sit unused for like 5 days, the battery goes completely dead. There seems to be a parasitic drain somewhere on the car. It doesn't happen if I drive it every day, but if it sits for about 5 days unused, the battery goes completely dead. I have read it has something to do with the DCS system in the car, but you have to pay the dealer a diagnostic fee to verify. I drive it enough I have not gotten it checked, but next time I am at the dealer I am going to ask them about it.

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