Used mid-size SUVs for sale near Alpine, UT
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$43,423
Est. $795/mo Ken Garff West Valley Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Fiat
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- Ext. color
- Anvil Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- TW222715W
- VIN
- 1C4PJXFN8TW222715
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Garff West Valley Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Fiat -





$25,073
Est. $459/mo Murdock Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Bountiful
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- Ext. color
- Bright White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-SPEED TORQUEFLITE AUTO
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 premium unleaded, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- WS00886A
- VIN
- 1C4RJFDJ2GC369770
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Murdock Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram BountifulReviews
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee review
My dream car since a teenager was a grand Cherokee and when I finally got one in 2021, I’ve loved it the same ever since. They are bold in appearance and look like a strong vehicle. It has always run beautifully and I have had no issues thus far since 2021 and now it’s 2024. Very comfortable interior and attractive to the eye. Love love love my car.
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$13,990
Est. $256/mo Urban Motors Blue
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- Ext. color
- Black Onyx
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.7L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 55346
- VIN
- JTJBT20X060121206
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Urban Motors BlueReviews
Urban Motors Blue review
This place was amazing! They not only have the cars people want they have the service to make you want to do business again! If you are looking for any type of speciality vehicle this is the place to look! Find the ride you want at Urban Motors!
2006 Lexus GX 470 review
This is the best and most reliable car I have purchased. It has ample room for passengers, equipment or both and even though it is an older car, it still has a lot of creature comforts that can keep up with newer cars. When I used to take it into the dealership for maintenance (timing belt, etc.), the service managers would tell me to never sell this car because it is overengineered for reliability and the drivetrain will last me well over 500K miles if it is taken care of. As of 2025 I am almost at a quarter million miles and still humming along.
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28558076
- VIN
- JTJTBCDX2R5024104
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax GoldenReviews
2024 Lexus GX 550 review
The car is great. It is extremely roomy, but it handles very well. My only negative is that it has a small gas tank and gets so few miles to the gallon so you feel like you are filling it up all the time if you drive a lot like I do. Otherwise it is an amazing car Lexus out did themselves with this one!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blizzard Pearl
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- MS547411W
- VIN
- 5TDGZRBH5MS547411
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale review
The service department always surpasses my expectations. I’ve been going to them for over 8 years. I don’t trust anybody else. They are truly amazing at what they do. They’re fast and reliable! Thank you once again!
2021 Toyota Highlander review
My 2021 highlander L I paid $27k @ 44k miles ih for it after 2 years taking it through ell & adding 50k miles (92k miles currently) im impressed by its 300 hp 3.4L engine but learned how important changing all fluild begor it starts to making noise and problems. I think as long as you change all fluids at by or before 90 k miles as milage it will continue to goFor 300,000 miles crossed finger . The dealer offered me 19k to trade in at this stage. Toyota value unmatched. I want the new twin turbo 3.5 they just added
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$27,122
Est. $497/mo Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- White Diamond Pearl
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve contro
- Stock #
- KL012185W
- VIN
- 5J8YD4H00KL012185
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Buick GMC RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale review
Service was fast and efficient. I was given a ride home after the service was determined to take longer than I expected.
2019 Acura MDX review
My current car is a 2019 MDX. I absolutely love it. My previous car was a 2012 MDX. The only reason I don’t have that car is my daughter “totaled it” 2 days after getting her license. BUT my daughter walked away, unhurt, no broken bones, no concussion, not even a bruise. I thought the car would look like a mangled mess, just looked like it went off roading. I had no idea these were TANKS on the road. I will continue to drive these now that I know. The 2019 is very similar to the 2012, but love the apple car play, lane assist, and better gas mileage.
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$29,168
Est. $534/mo Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Slate Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- S3407035C
- VIN
- 4S4WMADD5S3407035
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Buick GMC RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale review
The techs and service were great. I am not impressed with GM though. This issue has been going on since November of 2022. After three times of taking my truck in, it appears to be fixed.
2025 Subaru Ascent review
First Subaru ever. Got the Ascent Touring onyx. Fully loaded. The handling is great. I love the all wheel drive. It is much zippier than my Toyota Highlander Hybrid. For the money, the safety equipment, and extras are worth it. I LOVE the auto vehicle hold! Never knew I needed it until I had it. I miss the mileage of my hybrid, but the amount I drive it is not too much of an overall ownership cost difference. The center counsel system is slow to react sometimes, and would like physical buttons. Otherwise I love the large screen. Happy that the shifter is actually a shifter not a button or knob. Love the rear view camera, and surround cameras for parking are good. App, is better than most, and facial recognition is great for seat, mirror adjustments and lifetime gas mileage!
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$86,151
Est. $1,578/mo Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- Santorini Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Light Cloud
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5L V-8 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- S2359030T
- VIN
- SALE2EFE4S2359030
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Ken Garff Buick GMC RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale review
They were extremely accommodating. I was under a time constraint. They worked very quickly and efficiently to get the paperwork done so I could make my other commitment. I never felt pressured to buy the vehicle. I was treated great.
2025 Land Rover Defender review
Ride is very comfortable, quiet cabin and plenty of power from the inline 6. Some of the most advanced features of any vehicle on the market today .2025 110 Sedona Red Edition.
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$18,303
Est. $335/mo Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Machine Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KH006087W
- VIN
- 5NMS5CAD0KH006087
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale review
The staff are the best for getting you in a great car. David Jacoby was very helpful.
2019 Hyundai SANTA FE review
We’ve put 85,000 miles on our Santa Fe, including a trip from Maryland to Idaho and Utah, and have consistently been happy happy with it. It’s needed no work/repairs, other than routine maintenance.
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$9,773
Est. $179/mo Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- Venetian Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Warm Ivory
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- D3304423T
- VIN
- 4S4BRBKCXD3304423
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ken Garff Buick GMC RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale review
I took my truck in for service we were early for our appointment and they took it right in it was done in a timely manner and I really appreciate the video showing the work being done. Great experience would go back any time.
2013 Subaru Outback review
This is a great car. Rides good and has all the bells and whistles. Clean interior. I especially love the heated seats and outside temperature along with gas mileage shown. Love this car.
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$23,249
Est. $426/mo Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- Pure White
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- NC551314W
- VIN
- 1V2HR2CA7NC551314
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
2022 Volkswagen Atlas review
My wife was in a pretty bad accident. She walked out perfectly safe. The Atlas built like a tank. We went and purchased another one. Went from a 21.5 to a 22. I’m satisfied with it
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- N3189717W
- VIN
- 4S4BTAFCXN3189717
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
2022 Subaru Outback review
I purchased my Outback Premium in 2022 new. Liked the color. silver, and didn't want moonroof or a lot of extras that could break. Bad battery experience has really disappointed our experience although the cars performance and comfort has not.
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$66,994
New 2026 Volvo XC90 Core, B6 AWD Gas (mild hybrid), Gasoline, Bright, 7 Seats
$70,683
New 2026 Lexus RX 450h+ Base
$70,183
New 2026 Lexus RX 450h+ Base
$56,339
New 2026 Hyundai IONIQ 9 SE
$78,758
New 2026 Lexus RX 450h+ Base
$70,819
New 2026 Lexus RX 450h+ Base
$70,359
New 2026 Lexus RX 450h+ Base
$62,031
New 2026 Hyundai IONIQ 9 Performance Limited
$55,559
New 2026 Hyundai IONIQ 9 SE
$82,686
New 2026 Audi Q8 55 Premium Plus
$103,984
New 2026 Land Rover Range Rover Sport P400 Dynamic SE
$109,429
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$28,816
Est. $528/mo Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.4L H4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- P3441143W
- VIN
- 4S4WMASDXP3441143
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale review
Good dealership. Nice show room and customer area and amenities. Easy service access. Make a deal with them.
2023 Subaru Ascent review
I recently traded in my 2022 Ascent for a similar 2023 model. The 2022 model had brakes issues/noises right from the beginning of ownership. Subaru gave me a great deal on the 2023 model. A number of improvement were found on the 2023 model. Obvious one is the exterior styling with new front grille, headlights and taillights. Interior improvements include updated Eyesight, quieter ride, better steering and brakes, larger multimedia screen including front and backup camera screens, driver profile system. A few other tweaks here and there, making the 2023 Ascent Touring a decent and very safe SUV. Not necessarily sporty or thrilling but perfect vehicle for commuting in town and long road trips.
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$39,352
Est. $721/mo Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Ebony w/Sky Cool Gray & Ebony Accents
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- SJ272105W
- VIN
- 5GAEVBRS4SJ272105
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ken Garff Buick GMC RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Buick GMC Riverdale review
Bill was the most informative salesperson I?ve ever had! The whole team took great care to get me what I wanted and nothing I didn?t. I would highly recommend you buy from this team.
2025 Buick Enclave review
I have driven my 2025 Buick Enclave Sport Touring almost 9k miles and I am beyond happy with the car. The car is very smooth, comfortable, beautiful and economical. I do both city and freeway driving and so far, my MPG average is over 29 miles, getting about 580+ miles to a tank of gas! My 2025 Enclave drives so much better than the SUV I used to drive that had a V-6 engine and gets over 10 miles more per gallon of gas, on average. I have more than enough room when transporting family members and/or my (3) dogs. Everyone enjoys being a passenger in my Enclave.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- MBA26691W
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J99MBA26691
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale review
Kyle always takes good care of me and my truck they update and show me viedos on the great inspection and Kyle answers all my concerns and questions very fast .thanks again Nissan in Riverdale.R.S.
2021 Ford Edge review
I have owned my 2021 Ford Edge ST LINE since September of 2021. It is now April 2024, and I can say without a doubt, that I am very satisfied with the vehicle. I have taken long trips with it, and it was very comfortable. I have nothing negative to say about this vehicle.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brilliant Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- LN149193T
- VIN
- 5N1AZ2BS2LN149193
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ken Garff Nissan RiverdaleReviews
Ken Garff Nissan Riverdale review
Had a great experience! Was able to find something that I wanted and Korgan was an amazing help and knowledgeable
2020 Nissan Murano review
I recently bought a 2020 AWD SL Murano and am very impressed with the interior space, seat comfort and list of standard features of this car. I was considering MB GLE and Lexus GX350 as well and think I clearly got a great value with the Murano. I also think the maintenance and repair costs will be less than a German alternative.
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