Used vehicles for sale near Clearwater, MN
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- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Mocha
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve contro
- Stock #
- 260676A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H28MB043080
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Luther St. Cloud HondaReviews
Luther St. Cloud Honda review
Very nice gal text me I’m just looking & she vas very kind with where I’m @ I like a sun roof in future but thank her for hearing me & not pushy! God Bless yall
2021 Honda Odyssey review
Bought the 2021 EX-L model end of 2023 with 21,000 miles. I test drive the Sienna and was very disappointed in every aspect which led me to the Oddessy which I had not previously considered. One test drive and I was sold. The amount of space for my three kids to sit comfortably, the ample trunk space, the magic slide seats, automatic sliding doors & heated seats with a sunroof are among my favorite things about this minivan. It's fun to drive and has plenty of power with its 280hp. As long as you have proper snow tires in snowy conditions, this FWD minivan will do just fine. I had no issues in squalls and other winter conditions. I took my snow tires off prematurely and got caught in a winter storm and hit a guard rail and my whole family was safe and sound with no injuries. It has since been repaired back to its original condition. Keep your winter tires on til late Spring to be safe. I will absolutely drive this thing til the wheels fall off and then I'll buy another. Thank you Honda for keeping the Oddessy in your lineup! I hope it never goes away.
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$30,993
Est. $570/mo Minnesota Truck Headquarters of St. Cloud
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- HD21340T
- VIN
- W1YV0BEY0P4236680
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Minnesota Truck Headquarters of St. CloudReviews
Minnesota Truck Headquarters of St. Cloud review
They made buying my car easy as one could hope for. Even made me a special extra video so i could see the features in detail. All very friendly. Super pleased with the car!
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- Ext. color
- Gold
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-17
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 5.3L V-8 engine with 310HP
- Stock #
- 5702XX
- VIN
- 1GNSHCF44B1135032
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Safety
- Stability Control
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Good Guys Motor Co.Reviews
Good Guys Motor Co. review
Brian showed me the van that I saw online and it looked as good as in the pictures.
2011 Chevrolet Express 1500 review
This Truck met all of my needs, great for traveling, lots of space in the extended cab, comfortable all around, drives smooth, 6 seater which was great for my family. Sits up high to be able to see all around me.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- CB1523
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H69GB007402
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
The Car BrozReviews
The Car Broz review
Ethan and Mike were able to accommodate all of our needs today. Our growing family was in need of a 3rd row seating vehicle with cargo space beyond. Their finance team was able to get us a low monthly payment with an added warranty. I would definitely recommend them!
2016 Honda Odyssey review
Great vehicle! Gas mileage is amazing for an 8 passenger vehicle, love the cool box, love the blind spot camera, and the ride is very smooth. It's very safe too. When I was in a bad accident in my 2016 Odyssey my children and I came out with only two of us having minir injuries. Definitely recommend this van!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Diamond Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 14141
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H43GB165555
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Bedrock MotorsReviews
Bedrock Motors review
They had a perfect car. They let me have it checked out by my personal mechanic. A problem was found, and Bedrock Motors repaired it for me without a hassle. They agreed with the work, and fixed it, no questions asked.
2016 Honda Odyssey review
This is our 3rd Honda Odyssey. With three kids there is nothing better to truck around the family. Awesome vehicle! I'll hang up and listen
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 105362
- VIN
- NM0LS7E27L1456096
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Remarket SpaceReviews
Remarket Space review
Easiest vehicle transaction I've ever had! Fast service and great deal! I will definitely use remarket space again.
2020 Ford Transit Connect review
Bought a brand new in 2019 Transit Connect, since then we only had to change the brakes and oil !!!! Love this van. Works fine for our company needs. The money that we saved on gas alone is priceless (27/28 MPG). I decided to write this now because this is the only Ford product that didn't disappoint us. Hopefully they start making this work horse again soon.
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- A26031
- VIN
- 1FTBW2Y8XLKA26031
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Freeway MotorsReviews
Freeway Motors review
Tricia is competent, smart and can hold the line without aggression or offense. I'm a bit of a grinder, and Tricia got instantly to her best price and held tight with calm, gracious tenacity. I'd definitely do business at Freeway Motors again.
2020 Ford Transit-350 review
This Van is pretty cool I have lots of leg Room the vehicle have lots of power I really enjoyed the color, And I like a starting options from my cell phone.
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- PEWTER CLOTH
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.7L V-6 DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- PE06340
- VIN
- 1FTYR1ZM8GKA69991
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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PAW - Public Auto WholesaleReviews
2016 Ford Transit-250 review
This car meets everything I need and have plently legroom for me and my wife. Its powerful enough to pull my 5 wheel. lwhat s more do you need to know
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.7L V-6 DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- A57113
- VIN
- 1FTYE1ZM1GKA57113
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Freeway MotorsReviews
Freeway Motors review
They made us feel at home, without pressure. Buying the car was a breeze. Although they used the paper forms, it was way less time than the last car I bought with electronic signatures - they were so organized and efficient. The car was super clean. Definitely worth the trip out to Rogers to get the car I wanted.
2016 Ford Transit-150 review
Best large capacity vehicle ever, powerful agile drives more like a sports car than a Econoline. I would definitely recommend getting eco-boost though.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.7L V-6 DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve control, engine with 275HP
- Stock #
- 10087
- VIN
- 1FTYE1ZM9KKB10729
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Lee's Riverside AutoReviews
Lee's Riverside Auto review
I purchased a used car and had a mechanical issue within a few days of purchase. Lees's called me on a Sunday, to understand the issue and set up a time get it repaired. Outstanding service! Everyone was so kind and helpful!
2019 Ford Transit-150 review
This vehicle drives very nice. I am normally a Chevy buyer but this Ford is very nice. I was never in the Ford dealership but they really treated me well
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$15,999
Est. $294/mo PAW - Public Auto Wholesale
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 11-16
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 6L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- PE05060
- VIN
- 1GAZGPFG7H1142862
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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PAW - Public Auto WholesaleReviews
2017 Chevrolet Express 3500 review
We are planning a 6 month road trip from Florida to California and back. This will be the PERFECT vehicle to tow our trailer there and back.
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- 140317
- VIN
- 1GTW7AFP4R1140317
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
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Freeway MotorsReviews
Freeway Motors review
Excellent process for purchasing our new "used " Tahoe .. Jeff and Trisha were fun and helpful . The service man ( not sure of his name - Rick ? ) answered all out questions.. Friendly and helpful people
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- B12273
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y81RKB12273
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Freeway MotorsReviews
Freeway Motors review
Casual friendly salesman and no real pressure to buy made this a good experience. The whole thing felt like an honest discussion about the car which I ultimately ended up buying. Overall very pleased!
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$16,899
Est. $311/mo PAW - Public Auto Wholesale
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- PE06690
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDG7PE564793
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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PAW - Public Auto Wholesale -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 11-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 4.8L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- CB1152
- VIN
- 1GBWGRFFXF1187969
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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The Car BrozReviews
The Car Broz review
Excellent service! Helped me find exactly what I was looking for in a vehicle. I was able to trade in my car and they helped with financing.
2015 Chevrolet Express 2500 review
Love the room and the power. Hate the bouncy, bumpy ride. With no drink holders.seatbelts for the very back seat would tighten scary tight around a small child.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V6 12V MPFI OHV Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- 11866
- VIN
- 2D4RN4DE9AR332776
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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MN Motors & SportsReviews
MN Motors & Sports review
My wife and I both went to M&N while shopping for new to us vehicles. This was our last stop and glad we found it! Andy and staff asked right off the bat what we might be looking at and just tossed us the keys and said, "Take them for a spin." We were happy with the service they provided, the detailing of the vehicles, and the cost! We definitely got our money's worth, and it wasn't a waste of our time! It's rare to find friendlier yet no pressure type service. They don't follow you around like a leech and let you shop! Nothing worse than someone hanging over your shoulder when you're trying to shop. Buying a vehicle is a big decision, you don't want someone breathing down your neck when trying to decide what you want! These guys don't do that!!! Vehicles are priced right and aren't junk! I totally recommend you buy from M5N Motor Sports!!!
2010 Dodge Grand Caravan review
This is a great van. Stow and go seats mean tons of room. Driver seat is fully powered and very comfortable to sit in. Without a doubt the most comfortable vehicle I have ever had.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 147887
- VIN
- 3C6TRVDG3JE147887
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Freeway MotorsReviews
Freeway Motors review
Very clean and they know the cars on their lot. Cars are very clean too. would definitely recommend this dealership. Cars were priced fairly from all the cats I've looked at.
2018 RAM ProMaster 2500 review
Well, just purchased van and like the handling and cargo space . I use it mainly a a company work van. It is used both for work and recreational.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 11827
- VIN
- 5FNRL38438B414166
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
MN Motors & SportsReviews
MN Motors & Sports review
I would recommend this dealership! they were so helpful, honest and friendly.I sent a message asking about a vehicle however it sold already . So instead of just saying sold sorry Andy emailed me back and told me they had one similar I could look at then proceed to put it on hold for me which I appreciated making the hour and a half drive to have it for sure be there for me to see. Also they had the vehicle right up front and ready for the test drive when we arrived. I have been telling everyone about my great experience and hopefully when we need another vehicle they will have what we need again
2008 Honda Odyssey review
This vehicle has been a great resource for a long time, lasted about 10-11 years, or longer than that. We had some issuues with the extieror body but yeah.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Vortec 6L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- 13951
- VIN
- 1GTW7AFG6L1191521
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Bedrock MotorsReviews
Bedrock Motors review
Excellent place to buy a car. They were $1000 cheaper than anywhere else in Minnesota. Great Value. Joe and Wampli were awesome. Great staff. Easy process. I highly recommend them.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- PEWTER CLOTH
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.7L V-6 DOHC, Ti-VCT variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- PE05070
- VIN
- 1FBZX2YM9JKA57930
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
PAW - Public Auto WholesaleReviews
2018 Ford Transit-350 review
Good van, reliable, makes money, good for transporting parts, smooth ride for work van, handles a lot of weight, lots of room, load a lot of parts
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$10,499
Est. $193/mo PAW - Public Auto Wholesale
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- Ext. color
- Deep Cherry Red Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Light Graystone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- PE04722
- VIN
- 2C4RC1CG0GR189147
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
PAW - Public Auto WholesaleReviews
2016 Chrysler Town & Country review
Move the gas door!!¡!!!!! Jesus stupidest thing in the world................................ change the location of this dumba** door it is so stupid why would yall put it there ndunhdjdjjskxbiwnxwnxhxxnjsjxhsn dhdx xbxbxbxbxjdbxbdbxdbdbxeibx
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Onyx Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Light Graystone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 10121
- VIN
- 2C4RDGBG4HR826429
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Lee's Riverside AutoReviews
Lee's Riverside Auto review
I purchased a used Ford van from Lee's. I searched online & local for several weeks. They were honest about the condition, right in line with the price, easy to work with, they let me know where it came from. I live almost 600 miles away, I felt comfortable enough to buy without a test drive. They worked well with my bank to keep the deal moving. I am very pleased, good job Liana & thanks for the quart of oil in the glovebox!
2017 Dodge Grand Caravan review
Not a more useful car ever built. Easily tows a seadoo ski boat, fold the second In third row seats down and this van swallows a 120 in wingspan remote control giant scale stop with biplane on the weekends. It is truly an amazing piece of engineering!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- Grey
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.1L
- Stock #
- 997-SAN
- VIN
- WV2YB0257KH036828
Dealer
Gateway Classic CarsReviews
Gateway Classic Cars review
They were super helpful, but never found what I was looking for. Gateway said they would kept looking for me.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L V6 24V DDI DOHC Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- 12089
- VIN
- WD3PE7CC3C5697794
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
KNB Motors IncReviews
KNB Motors Inc review
Murphy is best salesman will come back again highly recommend everyone looking for Murphy.Chris finance did good job too thank you so much guys!i like my honda civic
2012 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter review
This Van actually do drives like a Mercedes Sedan and the 25-30 mpg keeps money in your pocket. Every part of this Van is much better than what we experienced from other Vans in the past. Very good "work horse" for sure.