Used vehicles for sale near Upper Moreland, PA
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$30,141
Est. $545/mo Mt. Ephraim Chrysler Dodge RAM
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy/Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- 30855
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GGXPR530855
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Mt. Ephraim Chrysler Dodge RAMReviews
Mt. Ephraim Chrysler Dodge RAM review
Saw a car online that I wanted, went to the dealership for a test drive, fell in love with the car and was happily surprised that I left with the car I wanted. Friendly, courteous and so informative and helpful in making my dream car my own!! Yea Jim, you rock!!
2023 Chrysler Pacifica review
Andrick was very nice and very helpful. I don't have the best credit or a good down payment but he did everything possible to get me into a car. Very helpful!
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$38,995
Est. $705/mo Route 1 Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 2654002D
- VIN
- 3C6MRWAZXRE123405
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
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Route 1 Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Route 1 Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Paul was great to work with! My previous car got totaled and I only had a few days to find something new that I liked and was in my price range. The staff there were all so pleasant and helpful. They did whatever they could to make sure that I was happy with the car I chose and got me a monthly payment that worked for me. I love my new Jeep and would recommend them for anyone’s future purchase.
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- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Metallic Ii
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 10 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- TH0143A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H7XRB069960
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Martin Main Line HondaReviews
Martin Main Line Honda review
Our sales agent Derrick was great, made the process painless! He responded to my inquiry quickly and was able to get me the car I wanted!
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$37,995
Est. $687/mo Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- FL6190P
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDG7SE506742
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Fred Beans Ford of LanghorneReviews
Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne review
Very pleasant experience buying my pre-owned Taurus
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$33,490
Est. $605/mo Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln
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- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V6 12V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- R2934
- VIN
- 1GTW7AFP3R1223835
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Pacifico Marple Ford LincolnReviews
Pacifico Marple Ford Lincoln review
Just purchased my new Escape. The process was easy and the Salesman was very knowledgeable. All in all it was a pleasant process
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- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- US90541A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H63TB007198
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Scott Honda of West ChesterReviews
Scott Honda of West Chester review
Scott Honda made car shopping a pleasant experience and provided what I was looking for. Aaron was extremely professional and up front about the car I was looking at. I would recommend working with him to anyone and appreciate all his help during the process.
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- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10 Speed Automatic
- Stock #
- RB043970T
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H65RB043970
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Burns HondaReviews
Burns Honda review
My Honda was towed into this dealership for repairs. My service representative was Alex Bradly. She was totally professional and handled all of my concerns quickly and efficiently. She was in contact with me at all times and my car repair was completed quickly. I would highly recommend this dealership for Honda repairs. Alex, thank you for your help and because of your total professionalism I will be a repeat customer and recommend you and your service department.
2024 Honda Odyssey review
Great car but serious security issues exist with the HondaLink app. Since I purchased the car over 2 months ago, I have been connected to someone else’s car. I can see their location, start their car, unlock and lock their car any time I please. I have confirmed this by doing a google search for their address and making personal contact with them since Honda said there was no way their system was functioning this way, so I had to spend time proving to them that indeed it does. Honda has been aware of this for 2 months and thus far has done nothing about it. I call them weekly or more often than that and yet still they do nothing about it.
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Dark Palazzo Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- A44199
- VIN
- 1FTBR1C84RKA44199
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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$40,995
Est. $741/mo Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- DARK PALAZZO GRAY VINYL
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- FL6236P
- VIN
- 1FTBR1X8XPKA69647
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Fred Beans Ford of LanghorneReviews
Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne review
The GM Jim and his staff are great people To deal with. Very pleasant buying experience
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$39,994
Est. $723/mo Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- DARK PALAZZO GRAY VINYL
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- FL6091P
- VIN
- 1FTBR1C84RKA03491
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Fred Beans Ford of LanghorneReviews
Fred Beans Ford of Langhorne review
Mccaferty ford was a great experience for me and my family the salesman were great to work with and they made sure you got exactly what you wanted and they worked with me to get me in the vehicle I wanted for the price I could afford couldn't be happier
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$32,484
Est. $587/mo Fred Beans Ford of Boyertown
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- Ext. color
- OXFORD WHITE
- Int. color
- EBONY CLOTH
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.5L PFDI V6 (GAS)
- Stock #
- P43834R
- VIN
- 1FTBR1Y85RKA96188
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Fred Beans Ford of BoyertownReviews
Fred Beans Ford of Boyertown review
I bought a new Focus SEL during the Ford year end clearance from Fred Beans Ford Boyertown. The selection of available vehicles was fantastic and my sales associate Brian Lucas was a pleasure to work with setting up the deal. The finance department went the extra mile and secured me a rate even lower than my requirement which was a very pleasant surprise at delivery. I couldn't be happier with the experience and that is saying a lot as car buying is normally a stressful and usually less than enjoyable experience.
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- Ext. color
- Desert Sand Mica
- Int. color
- Fawn
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 1607521
- VIN
- 5TDZK22C18S170543
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Sloane Toyota of GlensideReviews
Sloane Toyota of Glenside review
RAV4 in for routine maintenance. Easy check-in. Did a recall on the car at the same time. I had been previously told to make a separate visit and it would take all day. Did all in record time, saving me from having to bring it back again. Very pleased.
2008 Toyota Sienna review
Own a 2004 with over 330,000 miles. It just keeps running. As a landlord, I use it somewhat like a truck, it holds tools in the rear. Can transport 4x8 sheets of drywall and plywood with some shuffling. Hauled 1200 lbs of concrete bags behind the front row seats many times. I use the 3rd row for passengers. Have removed the second row and never replaced them. Change the oil every 5Kmi because that interval is easy to remember. And the typical timing belt and water pump (while exposed) every 100K. Just let the dealer do the brakes, they last years and don't wobble. Of course the automatic doors gave out at 200K, but you kind of expect that. They still work manually. A few strange items like a steering rack at 150K and vent window hinge gave out around then. And the drivers seat heater gave up. The problem is that this van is so good, I really hate to replace it. It's a good problem to have. I'm not hauling concrete in a brand new $50,000 Sienna.
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- Ext. color
- Pewter
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-25
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L Flex Fuel V6 283hp 260ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- 16322
- VIN
- 2C4RDGBG8ER412324
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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CarNu SalesReviews
CarNu Sales review
Great experience buying a beautiful Camaro from Carnu! They were honest, friendly, knowledgeable and gave excellent communication being I was out of state. Turn key deal getting the car shipped to my door. I would buy another car from them in a heartbeat! I had a small issue when the car arrived (the battery was dead) tried to charge it but it was not charging…I let Anthony know not thinking they would have to do anything just an FYI…but he said “get a new one and I will cover it”. He kept his word! Thanks Carnu for a great Car and working with me on price!
2014 Dodge Grand Caravan review
I had 6 of these in the last 15 years. Mostly do breaks, change tires and fluids. NEVER in any of these did I have a transmission issue. Love the stow away seats. Plenty of power in the V6 3.6L engine. I sold 5 of these, and got only thanks. Was never stranded, Countless Florida and Canada trips, Great family car.
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$59,999
Est. $1,084/mo Mercedes-Benz of Princeton
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Fabric Maturin Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- RT178246
- VIN
- W1Y4NCHY1RT178246
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Mercedes-Benz of PrincetonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Princeton review
I had a pleasant buying experience at this dealership all the way around. My Sales Rep Vasil Cherepania was the best. Thank you for a quick buying experience!
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 4-Speed
- Engine
- I4 2.0L Natural Aspiration
- Stock #
- DT127821STK
- VIN
- NM0LS7DN5DT127821
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Stability Control
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Divan Auto GroupReviews
Divan Auto Group review
Very friendly nice honest people. Will buy from them again. Truck was just as described.
2013 Ford Transit Connect review
I started driving in 1975 and I wish that this model was made back then! My little Transit XLT has the tinted windows all around and is converted into a "mini RV" complete with a bed that slides out to accommodate two full grown adults. Not only has this been a blessing on cross country trips but also on my daily runs. The cargo space is fantastic and the van sips gas...This has been one of my favorite vehicles I've owned in the 47 years I have driven.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-25
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- V6 3.6L Natural Aspiration
- Stock #
- DR557489STK
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BGXDR557489
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Divan Auto GroupReviews
Divan Auto Group review
Great service go See what they they have good deal dont miss out you like what you see
2013 Chrysler Town & Country review
I have enjoyed this car very much. It has 105000 miles and hasn't given me any problems. This is my fourth Chrysler van. The first one got 300,00 miles before I junked it. It was still running very good, but it was over 20 years old.
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 271hp 248ft. lbs.
- Stock #
- C6445279STK
- VIN
- KNDMG4C73C6445279
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Divan Auto GroupReviews
Divan Auto Group review
I bought good ram 1500 great condition fair price and good people. Thank John especially
2012 Kia Sedona review
Bought new for my wife in 2012. I am very particular in maintenance of all fluids & filters. 360,000 miles later and still runs like new. The most amazing thing is the “check engine” light has not even been on once. No leaks and uses no oil. Amazing vehicle!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-25
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- V6 3.6L Natural Aspiration
- Stock #
- JR300133STK
- VIN
- 2C4RDGCGXJR300133
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Divan Auto GroupReviews
Divan Auto Group review
Easy to work with, good truck for the money. Facilitated the transaction easily. Thanks for your help
2018 Dodge Grand Caravan review
This car meets all my needs, rides great, and I love the color! Most of all my salesman, Donnell at Fast Lane was truly a fabulous salesman!
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$27,000
Est. $488/mo Private seller: Oleksandr Hryhoriev
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 280.0HP 3.5L V6 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H74LB067869
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Reviews
2020 Honda Odyssey review
I've owned two Odysseys over the past 20 years,with the 2020 being the one we currently own. The 2020 has proven to be just as reliable as our other Odyssey and the Honda Accords that we've owned. The 2020 Odyssey has a smooth ride, comfortable attractive interior. The Magic seating system makes this van even more flexible for hauling loads of kids and family, while being able to quickly change to hauling lots of cargo.
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$61,999
Est. $1,120/mo Mercedes-Benz of Princeton
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- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Fabric Maturin Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- ST224220
- VIN
- W1Y4NBHY6ST224220
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of PrincetonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Princeton review
I've had a lot of experience with different dealers but MB Princeton was the best. Mr. Paul Lai was very helpful and upfront about everything. I wholeheartedly recommend them for their honesty and trustworthiness.
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$38,999
Est. $705/mo Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- APFLO9321
- VIN
- 3C6LRVDGXSE504483
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Chapman Ford of Northeast PhiladelphiaReviews
Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia review
The dealer offers pick up and delivery. Someone from the dealership drives to your house, picks up your car, takes it to be serviced, and returns it to your house. Best of all this is a free service. I am disabled and this option was remarkably easy for me to use. I even booked online. It couldn?t have been easier.
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$29,999
Est. $542/mo Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia
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- Ext. color
- Frozen White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- APFLO9326
- VIN
- NM0LS7S2XP1550029
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
Chapman Ford of Northeast PhiladelphiaReviews
Chapman Ford of Northeast Philadelphia review
Don Biddle and the Chapman group made my experience a very good one. They are very friendly and professional. I am very grateful and excited to drive my 2025 Bronco Sport. It's a whole new experience coming out of driving the escape models for many years.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Medium Dark Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-SPEED AUTOMATIC, ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, variable valve control, regu
- Stock #
- GVF3459
- VIN
- 1GCWGAFP9R1275857
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Stability Control
Dealer
Bob Johnson UsedReviews
Bob Johnson Used review
Bob Johnson LeRoy delivers exceptional service, honest communication, and a hassle-free buying experience. Their friendly, knowledgeable team makes every visit enjoyable.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28543214
- VIN
- 5TDYZ3DC4HS847479
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax GreenwoodReviews
2017 Toyota Sienna review
I owned a 2014 sienna limited premium and was the best vehicle I have ever owned in my 50 years of driving, owning 16 different cars, Suvs and Vans. I purchased a 2017 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD and I like it but I don't like the way it shifts, its very jerky. I did get a computer engine software update that helped very much. The engine having 40 more horse power would make me think that it would have tremendous power compaired to my 2014, but it did not. So it purchased a what call (chip your car) that connects under the dash to get more refindment in the performace, to unleash the filtered performance and it did. What a difference in performance. I purchaced the chip for 150.00 and its worth every penny. I am a performance guy especially when driving a nice van. So with the Toyota Software upgrade and my computer chip upgrade now we have a nice performace running van which my 2014 had also.