Used Kia cars for sale near Gotha, FL
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- TG441325
- VIN
- 5XYRG4JC4TG441325
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Greenway Kia EastReviews
Greenway Kia East review
Fin was great and provided excellent customer service! overall experience was great i would definitely recommend
2026 Kia Sorento review
We bought our 2026 Kia Sorento SX in Sept. 2025. It is equipped with a 2.5-liter, turbo charged engine. We really liked the exterior look of the Sorento. The interior is nicely appointed and comfortable. The engine produces 280 HP, so there is plenty of power when you need it. We are still getting used to the Dual Clutch transmission. It has different characteristics than automatic transmissions in previous vehicles we have owned. The Sorento is comfortable to drive, but there is a lack of road feel that we had to get used to. The dual use toggle switch that controls the climate system and infotainment system can be confusing. We also find there is excessive wind noise when going faster than 40 MPH. In the first 3000 miles we have driven the Sorento, we have one recall for a software problem, and we experienced a dead battery with no apparent cause. Overall, we like the Sorento, but we are concerned about its long-term reliability.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Everlasting Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L39894A
- VIN
- 5XXG14J25RG245391
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jenkins Hyundai of LeesburgReviews
Jenkins Hyundai of Leesburg review
This is our 3rd car we bought from Jenkins Hyundai. Always had superior sales people to help us find the car that is just right for us. Each person is very knowledgeable and very friendly. There is a a great variety of cars to choose from. Service area is nice and comfy and a good selection of drinks and goodies to chose from. From the minute we pulled in the lot we were greeted by a friendly sales person who took us around to see what we were looking for, made suggestions and guided us through the buying process. Finance dept. was an easy process and the financial officer was easy to understand. After we bought the car our salesperson sat in the car explaining all the features and had us go through all of them with him. We can call him anytime with questions. They also have classes for new car buyers, which is awesome.
2024 Kia K5 review
Forward collision is dangerous it slams on the brakes and have you spinning. Roof is too low. Speakers are not good. Exterior falls apart very cheaply made car. Great on gas great body design. Love the synthetic leather & the infotainment screen.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ebony Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L39817A
- VIN
- 5XYRK4JF4SG335965
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Jenkins Hyundai of LeesburgReviews
Jenkins Hyundai of Leesburg review
Meeting the person I had been in contact with was the toughest part. I let them know when I have them a 2 hr advance notice of when I was coming but they were out on a lunch run. Then I just stood at the doorway by the receptionist waiting for someone to find me that they had paged. I finally tracked them down. Then, we walked away not knowing our financing details such as locked in rate and who our loan was with. After 2.5 weeks and 4 tries calling I finally got the information. Staff was friendly and quick. Facility was clean and inviting to customers.
2025 Kia Sorento review
The interior and the exterior look and feel like a luxury vehicle. It is extremely smooth to drive and handles well. Very spacious. Would highly recommend
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- RED
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29257147
- VIN
- KNAG64J7XS5337777
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax SanfordReviews
CarMax Sanford review
Paid cash for a 2007 Explorer. Price was good. New tires and battery. After the test drive, the whole buying process only took 20 minutes. As I did not trade in a vehicle I was stuck there with 2 cars. They had someone follow me home in my new car so I could get both home without having to pay for a cab. Top notch. Dane was excellent.
2025 Kia K5 review
I only had the car 1 month but drove it to Florida (all around) and back and put on 3,500 miles. My car is a GT-Line, Wolf Grey with the Red interior, Bose speakers etc. The car is a real pleasure to drive. Very Quiet on the road, and my mileage exceeded the 37 mpg epa rating, and that’s while maintaining speeds of 80 mph with 2 people and fully loaded with luggage. Little if any wind noise. Note that at times I hit much higher speeds not knowing since it was so quiet & smooth. The engine RPM was mostly between 2 to 2.1 at 80mph. The power of the 2.5 liter is good, and slightly better than the 2019 Camry I had, which was a very good car as well. The Bose system sounded great, and all the alert sensors and some other sensors like keeping your car steering between the lines worked very well, but I preferred to turn that off most of the time. If you turn on your turning signals to changing lanes, and a car is present, not only does your side mirrors alert you, but you’ll get sound notices and the steering wheel will vibrate. Triple redundancy. The handling is very good, and secure, brakes are excellent and has a very good feel to them. A very important note is, I appreciate that the 2.5 engine has both Direct & Port Injectors on each cylinder. Port injectors will help cleaned the valves and clear any carbon build up. This is the same arrangement my Camry 2019 had which greatly reduces or eliminates carbon buildup in these Direct Inject Engines. The Nav system worked flawlessly and quickly. I also love you can remotely start your car with the key FOB (No additional charge) or with Kia Connect though Kia connect is only free the 1st 3 years. Also, happily, it doesn’t have the stop & start engine control which can cause more wear on your starter motor with little gain on MPG. The seats are very comfortable as I can attest driving 12 hours straight on my first stop. The car’s 8 spd auto shifted smoothly in all conditions. Plenty of room inside. Lot of storage in the console area for incidentals and drinks. I enjoyed the Panoramic roof. The negative was the Combine toggle Climate & Media control is a bit counter intuitive and sometimes causes more effort to control. Trunk space is good, as I had lots of luggage. The car feels solid & hopefully reliable down the line. The only other negative which is because I do my own oil changes etc, is this car takes a Cartridge oil filter (Not spin on) and takes 6.1 quarts of oil, (Not 5 qts) but I knew this well before I bought it but it’s location and design is good. So it’s not a real big deal, but this will cost a little more for oil changes. Recommended oil chg is 7,500 but I’ll be doing it every 5 to 6K for sure. BTW recommended oil is 0 -30W. Based on my limited time but very heavy usage I highly recommend this car, and I really enjoy driving it. Very sporty looking.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snow White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- 054836
- VIN
- 3KPFL4A73HE054836
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Speed Motors Sales LLCReviews
Speed Motors Sales LLC review
Great Customer Service funny guy also loved shopping here. Highly recommend buying a car from this dealership
2017 Kia Forte review
I have owned a Kia Forte for 7 years now. My husband and I love it! We do regular oil changes and maintenance, and keep the car in the garage. At almost 60,000 miles it needed new tires and brakes, but that's not a big surprise. We LOVE the performance of this car -- the turbo function makes it fun to drive and great for passing. It's compact enough that we can park anywhere. And the hatchback is surprisingly large! We ended up selling our Toyota Camry and keeping our Kia because the Kia is a workhorse that hauled furniture and boxes for my husband's business. Way more room than the Camry when we needed to haul things or take our electric bikes on an adventure.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacial White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Gamma-II 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, CVVD variable valve co
- Stock #
- TG020979
- VIN
- 5XXG64J27MG020979
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Jaguar Land Rover South OrlandoReviews
Jaguar Land Rover South Orlando review
Nik wae amazing. No pressure. Answered all questions and addressed all concerns. Matt took care of concerns. Overall Nik and Matt made the experience stress free.
2021 Kia K5 review
A lot of people complain about the pirelli tires going bad too soon and brakes also. I personally had no issues with either one. The tires lasted well beyond their mileage rating and brakes didn't need replacement until after 4.5 years. I have had pretty much zero issues with my gt-line. People need to realize that these are not race cars and quit driving them like they are racecars and tires and brakes might last a little longer.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 215972
- VIN
- 5XXG64J29PG215972
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
VIP Auto Enterprise, Inc.Reviews
VIP Auto Enterprise, Inc. review
I am very satisfied with the service at Danny Finance; they always treat me with courtesy and respect, and are very helpful in answering all my questions when I make a purchase
2023 Kia K5 review
I LOVE my 2023 KIa K5 GT-Line. I have the Passion Red, and I must say it’s a very sexy color. The panoramic sunroof is my favorite feature. The K5 rides so smooth and handles very well. If you’re considering this car…don’t hesitate any longer. GO BUY IT!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Taupe/Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- S6497545
- VIN
- KNDNB5K38S6497545
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Drivers MartReviews
Drivers Mart review
I have been going there for the past 15 years and always get great service and value. This time my salesman was Juan Lopez and was very informative and professional.
2025 Kia Carnival review
I traded a 2021 Telluride for the Carnival because it was more practical and versatile for transporting young children. Although they had the same trim levels, the quality of interior materials - seats, door panels, etc. - in the Telluride were superior to the Carnival. The "ride," handling and comfort of the Telluride also far exceeded that of the Carnival. I miss the Telluride but appreciate the functionally of the Carnival.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Clear White / Black Roof
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- L39676A
- VIN
- KNDJ23AU3S7262686
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jenkins Hyundai of LeesburgReviews
Jenkins Hyundai of Leesburg review
We are no-nonsense, straight up kind of people and car shopping is our least favorite thing to do in the world. However, this was a much different experience. They had a good selection of cars and had the trim and color we wanted. We live 3 hours away and working with John in internet sales was very easy. No pushy sales or pressure; and the no haggle pricing was easy to understand and saved us money as compared to the dealers in my city. Estimating our trade in value was also easy despite the long distance. We could not tell from the website some details about the car, but John and Tabitha took photos and emailed them to us- went the extra mile. Once there, our car was ready for pick up; we got the "tour" from John, completed the required paperwork and we were out the door. A very pleasant car buying experience.
2025 Kia Soul review
VERY comfortable car, especially if you like being able to park easily, yet have headroom and not need a crane to lower yourself into your seat. The seats literally hug you. Perfect fit for me, and the dealership was great, no hassle.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wolf Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 309225
- VIN
- KNAG64J77S5309225
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Mullinax Ford of KissimmeeReviews
Mullinax Ford of Kissimmee review
Was great working with Joan and Brandon. Got the truck I wanted at the price I wanted. Quick and easy I drove 3 hours each way
2025 Kia K5 review
Great car all fully loaded inside noises very low on out side. Sun food open for tented window ur fully open for sunshine and fresh air
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Panthera Metal
- Int. color
- Off-Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6 Cylinder FWD Gasoline Automatic
- Stock #
- WS-KNDNE5K30T6563465
- VIN
- KNDNE5K30T6563465
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Vehicle Clearing HouseReviews
Vehicle Clearing House review
We cannot say enough good things about Rick Knapp and Vehicle Clearing House! Rick has helped us both buy a ‘new-to-us’ car and sell our previous vehicle, and each experience has been absolutely seamless. His communication is outstanding—he keeps you informed every step of the way and always makes sure you feel confident in the process. Not only does he offer fair pricing, but he also takes all the stress out of buying or selling a car. Rick truly makes the experience easy and enjoyable. We wouldn’t go anywhere else for our car needs, and we highly recommend him to anyone looking for a hassle-free, trustworthy way to buy or sell a vehicle!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Steel Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 42-44
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- P7081825
- VIN
- KNDPU3AG9P7081825
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Drivers MartReviews
Drivers Mart review
I had an excellent experience purchasing my Mercedes-Benz CLS 550 at Drivers Mart Winter Park. I’m absolutely thrilled with the car, it’s beautiful and drives perfectly. What really stood out was how seamless the entire process was. Everything was handled in one place, from financing to car registration and paperwork, which made the experience smooth, efficient, and stress-free. A special thank you to Vernon Johnson, my salesperson. He was knowledgeable, professional, and clearly understood the process inside and out. He put the deal together efficiently while keeping everything straightforward and comfortable from beginning to end. If you are looking for a quality vehicle and a hassle-free buying experience, I highly recommend Drivers Mart Winter Park. Thanks again, Vernon!
2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid review
Just a terrific car for the price. I'm 6'6" tall and have long legs and I'm more comfortable in this car than I am in many much larger vehicles. I've gotten over 40 MPG since I've owned it and am really enjoying driving it with the lane assist and auto hold features.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29242935
- VIN
- 5XYK53DF6TG424131
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax OrlandoReviews
CarMax Orlando review
I have purchased 3 cars and sold 4 here. Always had a positive experience. Worked with Tarek A. twice. Fabulous experience. Ask for him you won’t be sorry!
2026 Kia Sportage review
My car only has 700 miles on it. The interior is cheap & all black. It could ride better. It’s the standard engine & very peppy & fun to drive.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70312458
- VIN
- KNDEU2AA1S7727221
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax SanfordReviews
CarMax Sanford review
The salesperson could read my mind! Finances were easy to set up. And I had plenty of time to shop around for financing. Time with car on road good also liked having no pressure return policy. Master technicians are very friendly and patient with customers.
2025 Kia Seltos review
I have had pickups since 1973. My sister bought a Seltos 2 years ago and loved it. I bought one and cannot complain. It’s a 4 cyl so don’t expect to burn rubber but it will get you any place you want to go. Very happy so far…
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Titanium Silver
- Int. color
- Satin Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 532930T
- VIN
- 5XYPG4A38KG532930
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Starling GMCReviews
2019 Kia Sorento review
My 2019 sorento has been a strong performer with no problems at all. Spacious, comfortable and very dependable. Very happy with this SUV Engine is strong, excellent value
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70313336
- VIN
- KNDJN2A26K7686654
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax ClermontReviews
2019 Kia Soul review
I purchased my 2019 Kia Soul with 52,000 miles on it in April last year. I now have 62,000 on it now. It looks good and drives great. No problems so far. Nice car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70310799
- VIN
- 3KPF54AD3PE582830
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax OrlandoReviews
CarMax Orlando review
CarMax located on 6375 South semoran boulevard Orlando Florida is an awesome place to shop and buy a car. All the employees, especially John Citron our car salesperson and Amy Miller our service consultant are super super nice people, along with everybody else that works here. Amy Miller from the get-go was a super super nice and helpful person with everything that she did for me and my wife from the get-go. In today's society, nice people are hard to come by, but people here at CarMax are super friendly and helpful and professional and knowledgeable.
2023 Kia Forte review
Bought a 2023 forte gt-line for my daughter. We have had the car for 13months and have driven about 12,000 miles. I honestly cannot believe the 1star reviews, nor should you. I was a loyal Honda fanboy for over 30 years before I bought this Kia. I bought a totally loaded Forte non turbo for a hair under 25k with a crazy good warranty. Why not? I figured. 13 months and 12k miles later it rides better, has more power and is quieter than the day we bought it! Zero issues with anything. No squeaks, rattles or interior flaws. Sadly no tire wear. I cannot wait to replace the Kuhmos it came with. It handles great and is fun to drive. My wife calls it “a peppy little thing”. And she drives a CX-5 turbo or my 5.7 liter ram. Over 40 mpg on highway and mid 30s driving around town. This is a fine car. Not a cheap version Hyundai. Much nicer IMHO than the Hyundai. For those knocking the resale… run the numbers and try to buy one as cheap as you say you sold yours for. The Harmon Kardon stereo sounds awesome! This is one of my favorite purchases because its value continues to surprise me. And they give a $500.00 military discount. Don’t buy based on my opinions go test drive one! Test drives are free. Go to carvanna or get on car gurus and see how cheap you can buy one a year or two old used one for.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Runway Red
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Direct-Drive Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- P5035237
- VIN
- KNDCR3L19P5035237
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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Drivers MartReviews
Drivers Mart review
Outstanding Service! John Torres and the team did an amazing job! We are loyal customers!
2023 Kia Niro EV review
Performs flawlessly but charging technology is badly designed and takes too long. If Kia had their own chargers like Tesla, that would be better. But they don't.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Green
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Engine
- 1.6L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- B837748
- VIN
- KNDJN2A25G7837748
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fountain Buick GMCReviews
Fountain Buick GMC review
Drew Koba in the Parts Department is such an asset to the company. I have used him for years and would recommend him and this dealership to anyone. He is personable and extremely professional. It is almost as though you think you are talking to your long-lost friend. As a business, he is the type of employee you want. He keeps me, and I am sure others, coming back again and again.
2016 Kia Soul review
Good commuter, fuel mileage and lower cost for maintenance. Stylish exterior looks really nice. Comfortable seats good quality leather. Touch screen stereo seems really fun. Reliable, good performance, these vehicles hold up well on the resale value. No Concerns, I like my ride.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 53-45
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Hybrid
- Stock #
- 70089666
- VIN
- KNDCT3LE8R5143453
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wolf Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Gamma-II 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, CVVD variable valve co
- Stock #
- NG163845
- VIN
- 5XXG64J28NG163845
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Universal HyundaiReviews
Universal Hyundai review
I bought 2022 Hyundai palisade , and I tell you this all happened because of one exceptional salsa person name Darrin Diaz He went through every single detail about my car and I was thrilled. Darrin was very knowledgeable and kind sales person . I will recommend him for others
2022 Kia K5 review
Took the family to Vegas for a week. Enterprise have me the choice between the Malibu, Charger and K5. My youngest didn't want the grey Malibu and I didn't want to pay for the gas on the Charger with the V8. So we went with the black K5. I drive a SUV so it took some time to use to bending down to get into he car. Once we started driving I noticed how smooth and quiet the car was. The car accelerated with ease and the braking made you feel safe. My Dodge Journey is 2015 and doesn't have all the new tech. The K5's blindspot and car In front of you leaving warnings are great features. Although the K5 had great features the only negative I had was the infotainment unit. The unit worked just fine, I just didn't like how it was integrated. It looks as it was installed as an afterthought. Looks like it was just inserted like a Lego piece, I would prefer it flush in the dash.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gravity Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- 223222
- VIN
- KNDPU3DF3R7223222
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mullinax Ford of KissimmeeReviews
Mullinax Ford of Kissimmee review
Julio Becerra is the most thoughtful and knowledgeable salesperson I've dealt when buying a car. No tricks, no surprises. He said what he meant and meant what he said. And a heck of a nice guy! Would absolutely buy from here again.
2024 Kia Sportage review
Great customer service. My Kia Sportage drives very comfortably. Love the heated seats. Great for carrying large items cause you can put the back seats down.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Wolf Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- S5273675
- VIN
- KNAG64J7XS5273675
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Orlando Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Orlando Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
My salesman was Harold King, he was personable, which was essential for me when buying my 2021 Dodge Charger. The transaction was a smooth process & I would recommend him & this reputable dealership to anyone who’s interested in buying a dependable car!
2025 Kia K5 review
For the money, probably the best car I've owned. For the price, value for dollar, it's unbeatable. Excellent safety features, great fuel economy, unbeatable warranty, and comfortable. An amazingly quiet ride, bettering many that cost twice as much. I think it looks great too, especially with the 18" wheels
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29264163
- VIN
- 3KPF24AD2RE835888
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax ClermontReviews
2024 Kia Forte review
I do like my car, but the seats are not comfortable. I HATE the head rests. I don't understand why they have to be so pushed forward, causing pain in the neck and the back to slouch. I had to buy a cushion to keep my back and neck straight. I also don't like the curved seats. They make it difficult to easily and quickly get out of the car. The problem is worse now that I'm pregnant. The car itself is great, but we spend so much time in the seats, why can't they be made comfortable?
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28548284
- VIN
- KNDNB5K33S6461178
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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CarMax OrlandoReviews
CarMax Orlando review
Exceptional service from start to finish! I was greeted warmly as soon as I walked in. Having completed my pre-application online, I was paired with Jadeil V., who was fantastic. He walked me through every detail, explained the process clearly, and was backed by a great team. The entire experience was smooth, efficient, and completely stress-free. I left with my new vehicle in no time. I highly recommend them to anyone!
2025 Kia Carnival review
Is good but I believe that thevprove is a little high not crazy high but a little to much for what a can offer but great!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Clear White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-40
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- 160514M
- VIN
- 3KPF24AD5LE160514
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mullinax Ford of KissimmeeReviews
Mullinax Ford of Kissimmee review
I have bought many new cars from different dealerships. My experience with salesman Duke was the most pleasant and stress-free experience ever. Honest, friendly, and your advocate in getting YOUR desired car and or truck at a very fair price. Ordered the truck after selecting from every viable option for the f 150 with Duke's help by patiently answering all my option questions. I had ordered/ bought a new Ford van with Duke 22 years ago and I wanted to buy again from him after being impressed with his salesmanship and customer care. I live part time in Rhode island and Florida but selected Mullinex Ford to buy the truck and flew down to get it when it arrived. After about an hour and a half later, I drove it back to Rhode Island. Thank you Mullinex staff and Salesman Duke! All the best!
2020 Kia Forte review
I’ve had my Kia now for 3yrs and only had little major thing go wrong which the dealership handled the issue as a decent time I guess. The first few months of having my Kia during the winter here the car would t push botton to start and boy was I pissed off. I kept having to jump start it then it dawned on me on me that they gave me a dead battery! Which was taking care of with warranty thank God! Other then that issue my model Kia forte got-line wasn’t equipped with a decent sound system I guess the package I thought it would’ve had But! Not! and to replace a aftermarket radio will cost a pretty penny to get done. My tires 17” OEM they feel on the wobbly side while driving 50-70mph on the Hyway! while hearing the sounds from outside in the inside of the car which sucks. But it’s power it gets up to speed especially in Sport Mode! The exterior looks good and interior is good also but I’m a pit in some work on it soon. I wish I would’ve known about the Kia Gt though (manual) speed before test driving my Kia gt line lol. My overall about this Kia it’s worth the price as well the experience to drive and to owne one!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Burnished Copper
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic Electronic with Overdrive
- Engine
- Theta II 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve
- Stock #
- 587621B
- VIN
- KNDP63AC3M7859779
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Subaru North OrlandoReviews
Subaru North Orlando review
I needed to get another car. I researched Subarus and found a very low mileage car at a decent price. Diego was very helpful in getting it done.
2021 Kia Sportage review
Great car for the money, great service from Kia of Attleboro Roy Silveira was great to work with. Car runs great heated seats a bonus has good pick up for a 4 cylinder
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70309881
- VIN
- KNDJN2A24J7593758
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
Dealer
CarMax OrlandoReviews
CarMax Orlando review
Although I did not end up buying a car from this dealership they were very excellent in every way. They answered my questions promptly. They advised me they would meet the price of any dealership in Florida. I liked them a lot and would’ve bought from them had I not found my dream car through a local seller (not a dealership) and purchased directly from him.
2018 Kia Soul review
I traveled from mid georgia to orlando to get our 2018 kia soul +. I had to travel to get the caribbean blue color I wanted. we are very happy with it. I'm building a carport for it now.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29264169
- VIN
- 3KPFW4DC2SE088886
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax OrlandoReviews
CarMax Orlando review
I traded in a 6 month old Lexus hybrid for a Mitsibushi lancer. I paid $20k for the lexus and my 16 year old pretended to like it but he hated it. It was a lame hybrid and his friends laughed at him. So before he even got his license and had only added 400 miles to the car I took it back. Eliot got me a deal on a Mitsibushi with 19,000 miles. The trade in came back at $14,000. Eliot WENT BACK AND GOT ME A BETTER DEAL! because I was a previous Carmax customer. I ended up with a 5 year warranty on the Mitsubishi and a $700 refund... You cannot beat Carmax. If you buy cars from this dealership THEY LOOK AFTER YOU. Genuine customer.
2025 Kia K4 review
I purchased my 2025 KIA K4 back in the end of March. All I can say is I love it. Hands down the best vehicle purchase I have ever made. The features are too many to mention and the leg room and comfort are unbeatable.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Ocean Blue/Black Roof
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto-Shift Manual
- Engine
- 1.6L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- P7358379
- VIN
- KNDETCA28P7358379
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Drivers MartReviews
Drivers Mart review
Tim at winter park drivers mart was very kind and knowledgeable. We appreciate his knowledge and he took time to help us.
2023 Kia Seltos review
I had been driving a Kia Soul and loved it. I didn’t like giving it up at 150,000 miles but it was paid off and I was needing something new. My wife talked me into the Seltos. I drive over 100 miles each day and really like the gas mileage and performance. But, the best thing is that I can count on it being reliable. I would recommend a Kia to anyone,
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 51-46
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Hybrid
- Stock #
- 70317734
- VIN
- KNDCB3LC5J5114143
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax SanfordReviews
CarMax Sanford review
Came in there on Thursday September 24th at 2:30 pm with my old clunker to get appraised and to purchase a used car. Was expecting to be a very long process, but was out by 5;30 with a smile. My car dealer was Greg, who was overly friendly and was patient with my decisions. He did a really good job showing me what I was looking for, price wise, and what was best for my liking. I wound up getting a solid deal on a 2012 Chevy Cruze. Carmax is very customer friendly, and very efficient with a nice variety of vehicles. Glad I went here to get my car.
2018 Kia Niro review
I love my Kia Niro Hybrid! I love all of the info that is continuously displayed above my steering wheel next to the speedometer that shows me when electric power is being used or being stored; my current MPG based on my driving practices; and at the end of my trip, it tells me exactly what my mpg was for that trip as well as what percentage of my driving was economical, normal, or aggressive! What an eye opener! I was able to increase my awareness of how my driving practices immediately impact the bottom line! I was able to reduce my aggressive driving from 11% to just 3% within just a few months. Now I don’t just think I’m a good driver, I KNOW that I am a safer driver! As an older driver, I am thrilled with the back up camera! Such a big help backing out of parking spaces in parking lots ( no blind spots!) and getting out of my driveway onto a major thoroughfare in my town! I feel so much safer. And being a grandmother of a kid in elementary school, a kid in day care, and a toddler I keep all day, I have precious cargo! But my favorite thing of all is that I only have to get gas about every 3 weeks instead of every week! I highly recommend the 2018 Kia Niro Hybrid! I didn’t think I could afford it when I bought it used 2 years ago…until I realized how much money I would be saving at the gas pump! I’m very happy with it!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- RED
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70335778
- VIN
- KNAE55LC5L6082414
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax FredericksburgReviews
CarMax Fredericksburg review
Hassle free and easy! I did not feel pressured at all. Every thing was explained to me. All the staff were welcoming and very friendly.
2020 Kia Stinger review
I have had my 2020 GT for 2 years now and have only had scheduled maintenance done and thats pretty much it the only issue i did have was that trunk rattle butt quick fix added rubber washers and that disappeared !! GREAT EVERYDAY DRIVER gives a SRT xxxx on the DIGGGG😂
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- TAN
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70273775
- VIN
- KNDPM3AC5H7290820
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax DothanReviews
CarMax Dothan review
Shopping for new car. Had one shipped from another carmax. Took car for 24hr test drive. Took to Firestone; was showed a badly rusted undercarriage. Returned outback to carmax Dothan. They said they'd have a look at it, that it might be within their specs but not ours. Manager offered to reimburse us the inspection and shipping fee. Can't argue with that. Great customer service.
2017 Kia Sportage review
I purchased a good deal, but it turned out that it had an almost brand new engine, so the deal was much better. Why the new engine? Because the old one was leaking oil. Yes, oil leaks and oil consumption is the major issue people on this car, I had read about it. As having a new engine, I don´t have the issue yet, but I am aware, and I care the oil. Other than that, it provides power and it is reliable. On the left hand, the habitability and visibility in the interior is not the best to say something. To enter I have to bend my head down a bit, and I am a short guy. Also, at high speeds, it is not very stable on the steering; you need to grab the steering wheel and correct a little bit. In summary, I am happy because of what I got for very cheap. But for a regular price, it wouldn´t be my first option, nor the last one either.