Used RAM cars for sale near Maple Shade, NJ
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Route 1 Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -





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- Blue Streak Pearlcoat
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- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
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- 15-25
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
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- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
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- 61999
- VIN
- 1C6RR6HT7HS791116
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Automotive Avenues SewellReviews
2017 RAM 1500 review
I purchased many different trucks over the years and landed recently on my new to me 2017 Ram Laramie 4x4. It does everything well and tows like a semi 5.7 Hemi with 3.92 rear gear and the 8-speed transmission.
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- 6.4L V8 16V MPFI OHV
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- A7757
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- 3C6UR5DJ1SG580369
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Extreme Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Extreme Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Never any issues with buying or leasing a vehicle, Bill Vandam is great to work with and is always there to help the customer. The only place I will go to shop for a vehicle.
2025 RAM 2500 review
Extremely comfortable for a 6'4" 240 lb. driver, even after hours of driving. Lots of power...good economy for the hp (unless pulling a trailer)...like the upgraded big screen and navigation software on the Big Horn. Good ride for a HD 2500. Great turn radius.
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- Red
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- BLACK
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- Four-wheel Drive
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- 15-21
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
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- Gas
- Stock #
- 28688375
- VIN
- 1C6SRFLT7LN337464
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CarMax RochesterReviews
CarMax Rochester review
The Transfer process was unfriendly. The vehicle I was interested in had to be released from My hold and I had to wait until it came back on the website to request s transfer.
2020 RAM 1500 review
Bought it new and have not had any warranty claims 40 k miles today. Family enjoys the comfort of the interior. Performance and fuel economy exceeded my expectation. I definitely would purchase again.
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$19,320
Est. $351/mo i.g. Burton Chevrolet of Elkton
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- Bright Silver Clearcoat Metallic
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- Diesel Gray / Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- EC26103A
- VIN
- 3C6RR7KT2GG320754
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i.g. Burton Chevrolet of ElktonReviews
2016 RAM 1500 review
Bought this truck when it was 2 years old with 16k miles on it. I loved the way this truck looked and performed. I highly recommend this truck. Very Very Satisfied.!
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$36,276
Est. $659/mo i.g. Burton Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Newark
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- Billet Silver Metallic
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- Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
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- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
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- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- JP26044A
- VIN
- 1C6SRFFTXMN739203
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i.g. Burton Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of NewarkReviews
2021 RAM 1500 review
3.6 motor experience cold wether limp mode Several times. Dealer claims no update for carburetor freeze up. Stranded on extreme cold days. Very concerned and disappointing
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$64,690
Est. $1,176/mo Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep Mits
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 10-14
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V MPFI OHV Supercharged
- Stock #
- PT18535
- VIN
- 1C6SRFU93MN702596
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- Memory Seat
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Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep MitsReviews
Jeff D'Ambrosio Chrysler Dodge Jeep Mits review
First time buyer at D'Ambrosio as we had been looking for a pre-owned Jeep Grand Cherokee for our daughter. The team was so very helpful for our family and Rachel Brennan did an awesome job! They kept us informed as vehicles of our interest and criteria came to the dealer, and the overall shopping and buying experience was straight forward and easy. Thank you Rachel!
2021 RAM 1500 review
I bought a 2021 classic 1500 4x2 quad cab with 5.7 Gas engine. There were 2 rear differential axle gear ratio options, mine has the “hiway gear” but the truck pulls with plenty of power, I think most had that gear for fuel economy. I don’t like the idea that if I open the drivers door while in motion , a transmission brake applies and abruptly stops the vehicle. I was parking in a very tight spot and cracked. The door open and to my surprise, , the truck jerked to a sudden stop. I personally do not care for the dash knob to select the gear, it’s another electronic component that can fail, which in fact has failed . in other trucks. The 5.7 Liter engine was designed with the oil filter to be very difficult to reach , almost as if designed ‘outside ‘ the chassis without realizing once ‘in’ the chassis, the oil filter became extremely difficult to reach to replace .
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
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- Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
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- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.4L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- DU385300
- VIN
- 3C6TR5EJ7PG618530
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Freehold Subaru DodgeReviews
Freehold Subaru Dodge review
The best experience l ever had purchasing a vehicle. Sean was honest and straight forward l would recommend freehold to anyone looking for a vehicle. Thank you Sean keep up the good work.thanks again.
2023 RAM 2500 review
I have had other trucks “gas” and BMW’s ! With gas prices soaring and extremely expensive I traded in the gas for the New Turbo Diesel Cummins 6.7 ! On the highway this motor gets 20-21 miles per gallon with a range of 400-450 miles per fill up! Verified with my own eyes! This Ram 2500 gets better gas mileage than any vehicle I have ever owned ! A bit more expensive, but you’re going to make up for it in fuel! Extremely happy with this Truck! Feels powerful , sounds great, comfortable with a lot of options, cameras all around it so you can see everything surrounding you! I haven’t towed anything yet but what I have heard it even gets better with more weight behind it
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- Bright White Clearcoat
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- Black
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- 17-24
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- 3.0L I6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- DU523870
- VIN
- 1C6SRFJP1SN592387
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Freehold Subaru DodgeReviews
Freehold Subaru Dodge review
Thank you to Michael Soto (sales professional) and the rest of the team at Freehold Dodge/Ram/Subaru in our no pressure purchase of our new 2020 Ford F350. Excellent team. Found our new dealership.
2025 RAM 1500 review
I got hit in a snow storm and pushed into oncoming traffic then hit by a 60,000 lbs snow plow. Truck was totaled had to be cut out of it because all the doors were stuck but I walked away with minor bruising from the seat belt. Just got my new 2026 last week. Definitely recommend for safety and 24 mpg on the highway with the twin turbo hurricane and plenty of power.
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- Diamond Black
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- Black
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- 19-24
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
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- NN16294A
- VIN
- 1C6SRFBT8NN162940
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Lester Glenn HyundaiReviews
Lester Glenn Hyundai review
I recently leased a car from tina, it was a pleasant experience! I'll recommend anyone to her! She's funny , considerate , treats you right! I'll be back!
2022 RAM 1500 review
Purchased in 2023, new. Had to go back one year to find one without e-torque. Test drove & didn't like it. Right now I have 30,000 trouble free miles on it. I just hope my luck with that last. I have been a GM owner all my life, with two Fords threw in which didn't impress mr at all. I was dissatisfied with my 2010 GMC so I decided to try Ram. I bought a 2017 Bighorn with the 3.6 V6 & was totally happy. 70,000 trouble free miles. I planned on keeping that truck much longer, but, at my age, decided to give it one more shot, so i bought the 2022 with the 5.7 V8. Didn't need the xtra power but decided I'd go for broke. I'm 82, so I'm planning this to be my last truck. I have owned pickups only since 1967, never had any use for a car.
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
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- Red/Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- 623648
- VIN
- 1C6SRFLT4PN623648
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- LED Headlights
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Route 18 Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Route 18 Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
I had a wonderful experience I am enjoying my grand Cherokee jeep and will continue to use this dealership yeah
2023 RAM 1500 review
Love the truck But, why in the world does Ram not offer the advanced safety group (adaptive cruise, in lane guidance) and the 4 corner air suspension in after sale install kits? At this time: there are 4 - 2023 ecodiesel Rams equipped with advanced safety tech group in the ENTIRE country. There are 3 equipped with air ride. Why isn’t this more widely available?
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- Bright White Clearcoat
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- Black
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- 19-24
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed A/T
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- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- NN43964A
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG1NN439648
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Lester Glenn GMCReviews
Lester Glenn GMC review
EASY Check-In! I was greeted like a valued customer. Asked what I needed & wanted performed on my Pick-up. I waited while the service was performed, treated fairly and was on my way confident that all was good. All-in-all, a pleasant experience, again.
2022 RAM 1500 review
Purchased a 2022 Laramie, RWD, Hemi 5.7L, Crew Cab with 21,000 miles. Other than no nav system, the truck is pristine. I am the 3rd owner; the other two maintained it beautifully. This V8 gets better city/hwy mileage than my for V6, 4x4, Crew Cab Nissan Frontier. I am most please with this vehicle!
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- Delmonico Red Pearlcoat
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- Black
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- 16-23
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
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- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
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- GS407689
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- 1C6RR7NG4GS407689
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Sky Motor CarsReviews
Sky Motor Cars review
I had an outstanding experience with Sky Motors from start to finish. Brett, Kevin, and their entire team made the experience simple, easy, and a real joy. I gave them a list of features I was looking for in a car and within 30 minutes they showed me the perfect car for my needs. They took the time to walk me through every aspect of the transaction and made sure i was fully satisfied, which I was. My only problem was that I didn't call Sky Motors first when i began my search. They were a fantastic to work with and I would recommend Sky Motors to anyone looking for a great car and a great car buying experience.
2016 RAM 1500 review
I bought the 1500 Ram with the EcoDiesel engine the second day I had it the engine light came on took it in had exhaust problems had a recall so they fixed it that was.in 2019 since then had other recalls done waited over a year to get the high pressure fuel pump recall done it took almost three day no loaner got it back put about three hundred miles on it local miles one morning got in it it would not start took it back the had it for about three more day then said they found water in the fuel and now I would have to pay 12000 dollars to get the same new fuel pump replaced
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
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- Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- 25506A
- VIN
- 1C6RRFBG0SN502143
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- WiFi Hotspot
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- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Brian Hoskins FordReviews
Brian Hoskins Ford review
DAVE WAS VERY NICE TO DEAL WITH. I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THIS DEALERSHIP.
2025 RAM 1500 review
I have the 2025 Ram 3.6 Crew Cab. I paid $45,000 for it in 2024 August. I traded my 2018 Tundra in that I only had a for a year. Major difference in power is noticable right off the bat. This Ram takes off very strange at times. Sometimes it feels like it has the power other times it doesnt want to move. I have the e-torque 3.6. The 5.7 Tundra had the power but I got rid of it because no dealer would fix it because the Tundra was spewing gas out the tank. The Tundra would only hold 12 gallons at most with a 38 gallon tank but I later found out the ECM was replaced and if I had known that I wouldnt of purchased the Tundra. You are now getring much less for you money with any vehicle. Any half ton with a v8 will cost you around $65,000 at the lowest price. This was 1 ton vehicle pricing pre-covid. These Ram crew cabs with a v6 should not cost any more than $40,000 at most. Its a very slow truck and doesnt feel like 305 HP but 280 HP realistically. The truck is too heavy for a 3.6 so that means more engine strain. The longevity of the engine will be questionable. The Ram definitely gets decent gas mileage but going uphill in this Ram you can feel the engine having to hit high rpm just to up an incline. The ride is smooth no doubt about it but these crew cabs need at least a 4.0 or 4.3 v6 to really get the job done.
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- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
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- Black
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- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- SB4158
- VIN
- 1C6SRFLTXPN694806
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
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- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
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- USB Port
- Exterior
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- Tow Hitch
- Safety
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- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Sands Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAMReviews
Sands Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM review
My wife and I decided I needed a used car December 12th 2019 Sands was the only place we were going but didn't want to share that information when we walked in I guess sometimes you need to keep people guessing. You know my wife and I have bought many new cars and it was the keep you here for 6 hours,disappear with registration,we can't give you numbers unless you commit to buy game. Well completely different was greeted by Greg a salesman ask what I was looking for we told he he graciously walked outside started the car came back in gathered so simple information at this point they had our business didn't show hand just yet Greg stated car was warm we would all take a ride. Closing the deal was actually pretty fast he presented Matt the sales manager paperwork Greg came back and said car is yours ,I mean it wasn't longer then 3-5 minutes from when Matt ran my wife's credit we had decision with amazing intrest rate. We were passed on to Rose a real sweetheart who had the wonderful job of taking care of all the paperwork God Bless Her, we chose to add gap insurance and I think with used cars an extended warranty doesn't hurt either take it from me I always get used the wife gets new lol.Rose spent maybe 30-45 minutes if that and I walked around thanked Matt,and Greg for making this the best experience ever. My only regret is I didn't realize they had 3 lots until the following day with so many used cars I may have bought something different and spent more but I'm happy. To all who helped us have a blessed holiday and my wife and I will be back to trade her car in on a new one.
2023 RAM 1500 review
Bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited new and owned for 4 years. The starter went out twice under !00,000 miles so replaced 2 starters, had spark plug miss fire that had to get fixed, had exhaust manifold crack making the clicking sound upon startup, gas mileage got bad around 80,000 miles. I loved my truck but was stuck 2 where truck wouldn't start because the starter Ram uses is too small and not enough power for the start/stop and this size of engine. Also, heated seats are not hot at all. Coming from a F150 where the heated seats were incredibly hot which felt great, Ram not so much.
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- CP4891
- VIN
- 1C6SRFRT9PN658046
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
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- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Kelly Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Kelly Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Laurie Arndt is kind and caring, she is an excellent salesperson. She went above and beyond to help me purchase the car that I really wanted. Gail Seymour.
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